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You might want to get your stats straight before you start comparing Tebow to Vick. Vick completed 54.9% of passes in his first year as a starter, with 8 INTs. Tebow is currently at 46.4%.But yes, if you gave him a supporting cast of Pro Bowl receivers and 400-pound linemen who can run 4.5 40-yard-dashes, I am sure that he could bring that completion rate up to 60%.
Disappointed he did not show us his full rooster.good stuff here
Settle down Beavis... if the failure of one man matters so much to you, you may want to reexamine your priorities in life.
Yes, it is confusing that you would talk strictly about NFL value on a website that says Fantasy Football at the top.Also, since he did win, and has won 2 of 3 games he's started this year, saying that a team that needs improvement at every position would not be able to win a championship at some point with him is very short-sighted. I never made the arguement that he'd lead them to championships, but he helped this crappy team win 2 games. Hit a few jackpots in the draft and free agency and any team can win a championship.Yep. Knew that when I read the 1st page and his leading the Broncos to championships.
Oops, you're right, I was looking at Vick's 4th, 5th, and 6th years in the league. Actually this helps my point. Vick had terrible completion percentages (44-56%) in every year until he got to the Eagles. It was 44.2% in year 1. His QB rating was never above 78. Tim Tebow's rating last year was 82.1 and this year it is 75.1.You might want to get your stats straight before you start comparing Tebow to Vick. Vick completed 54.9% of passes in his first year as a starter, with 8 INTs. Tebow is currently at 46.4%.But yes, if you gave him a supporting cast of Pro Bowl receivers and 400-pound linemen who can run 4.5 40-yard-dashes, I am sure that he could bring that completion rate up to 60%.
He started 2 games that year!Oops, you're right, I was looking at Vick's 4th, 5th, and 6th years in the league. Actually this helps my point. Vick had terrible completion percentages (44-56%) in every year until he got to the Eagles. It was 44.2% in year 1. His QB rating was never above 78. Tim Tebow's rating last year was 82.1 and this year it is 75.1.You might want to get your stats straight before you start comparing Tebow to Vick. Vick completed 54.9% of passes in his first year as a starter, with 8 INTs. Tebow is currently at 46.4%.But yes, if you gave him a supporting cast of Pro Bowl receivers and 400-pound linemen who can run 4.5 40-yard-dashes, I am sure that he could bring that completion rate up to 60%.
Tebow has started 3, your point?He started 2 games that year!Oops, you're right, I was looking at Vick's 4th, 5th, and 6th years in the league. Actually this helps my point. Vick had terrible completion percentages (44-56%) in every year until he got to the Eagles. It was 44.2% in year 1. His QB rating was never above 78. Tim Tebow's rating last year was 82.1 and this year it is 75.1.You might want to get your stats straight before you start comparing Tebow to Vick. Vick completed 54.9% of passes in his first year as a starter, with 8 INTs. Tebow is currently at 46.4%.But yes, if you gave him a supporting cast of Pro Bowl receivers and 400-pound linemen who can run 4.5 40-yard-dashes, I am sure that he could bring that completion rate up to 60%.
Dude, you act like you will show us all - but you are in the majority - lots of people think he won't make a good NFL QB.For the most part, the talk here is about his fantasy value - and even if he loses his job as starting QB - I think he has proven to have fantasy value - even if it is short-lived.
I'm kind of jumping in the middle of an argument here, so I'm not sure exactly what your stance is, but the Tebow hate is simply way over the top. Would I be shocked if Tebow leads a team to the SB? Yes. Would I be surprised if he's not an NFL starter a few years from now? No. But I can say the same thing for many of the starting QB's in the league right now. There's 32 f'ing spots to fill, not all of them are going to be good in the present, and not all of them are going to be good in the future. Which is why it simply makes no sense that people are so angry that he's merely been given a chance to start. Tebow needs to make major improvements to his game but however unconventional he may be, he has flashed some potential and so far is flat out better at winning football games than the other options on his team. Add in the fact that he's the only QB the Broncos can get any value of next year as a player or in a trade, and it wouldn't make sense not to start him. Only reason to bench him is if he plays so poorly he's hurting his teammates' development, and so far he's not.
HAHA TEBOW CAN'T BE PRESIDENTEAT ####
Umm...that would not disqualify him...
favreco is to Tebow as navel lint is to ___________?How did the Raiders D do for you yesterday? That was an excellent choice for your championship fantasy team.
I guess because a team can still run for 298 yards even if the quarterback completes less than 50% of his passes. I can't remember, were they running the read option with Orton or did they revamp its entire offensive approach for a quarterback who can't even complete 50% of his passes?
The comparision to Vince Young overlooks one big difference: Character. Tebow is not going to go mental and break down like Young did. He is not going to blame his teammates if he fails. He is going to work harder than Young to improve and he will do what the coaches tell him. Your comparison fails.
where as the raiders paid 2 firsts for carson palmer, who has thrown more INTs in a raiders uniform than Tebow has in a Broncos oneif i am ranking AFC west QBs it has to go cassell, tebow, rivers, palmerfor now
Nope. They're the same two people. Young had his skin bleached and changed his name to Tim Tebow.The comparision to Vince Young overlooks one big difference: Character. Tebow is not going to go mental and break down like Young did. He is not going to blame his teammates if he fails. He is going to work harder than Young to improve and he will do what the coaches tell him. Your comparison fails.
Good posting, also there are different formulas to winning in the NFL.Some teams have base 3 wr sets. Some teams run more out of the I. Some run with single backs. Some run with more 2 TE sets. Some teams throw more than others while some teams run more etc etc.
That has nothing to do with the comparison. I'm not comparing Young to The Tebow. I'm comparing shnikies continual raving about Tebow. It's the same raving that the hairy scotsman did about Vince Young. he's this he 's that. he's a winner. Where have we heard that one before? Oh, btw, Alex Smith is a winner now too. I would probably take The Tebow over Smith however on that team. The D keeps them in every game. NO rushing TDs allowed yet.
The funniest thing is your poor reading comprehension. I like how you mistaken me for saying he deserves a chance to improve so he can become a top 32 QB for "continual raving". Very good. I laugh. Ha Ha Ha.
Ugh, when will they put Orton back in or even Quinn? I'm sick of watching this Broncos team win.
I was impressed with how Tebow was able to overcome four drive killing offensive holding penalties.
I'm impressed they only had 4 offensive holding penalties, being that the offensive line has no idea where "The Tebow" is at or when or if he is going to throw the ball.
I resent your implicationTebow does not tempt one to violate the rules, he encourages all to compete to their limits within the rules! If anything the cupthrowing evildoers in the "black hole" are the one compelling their team to the dark path. But even the slings and arrows of the unrepentant sinners cannot deter Tebow from doing the work of his father.
Two of the penalties were on runs, one on a running back screen and the other on a straight drop where Tebow threw the ball within 3 seconds. I'm glad you were impressed.
I'm still naked.
hahahahahahahahahahhahaaha...I need this guys to keep winning...the posts just keep getting funnier and funnier...If he can win the AFC west this year...that wildcard game will be one of the most watched football games of all-time. I literally cant wait. One of the best regular season story-lines for the NFL in a long time. Tebow vs. Rodgers superbowl! I can dream cant I?
a slight improvement over the 15-131 the Raiders racked up in week 1.
LOL! Yes it is. I don't mind that either. I enjoy ruffling feathers and Tebow haters get worked up pretty easily. Denver is 2-1 with Tebow at QB. No pressure on that point.
LOL! I'm with you on that! It's gets funnier and funnier listening to the reasons why Tim Tebow shouldn't be credited with the win. I can only hope for more Ws to keep it going. Wining the West is a pretty big stretch, but definitely not impossible. I will feel sorry for Tebow if he has to go up against Aaron Rodgers, though. LOL. Good thing the Green Bay D gives up a lot of yards!hahahahahahahahahahhahaaha...I need this guys to keep winning...the posts just keep getting funnier and funnier...If he can win the AFC west this year...that wildcard game will be one of the most watched football games of all-time. I literally cant wait. One of the best regular season story-lines for the NFL in a long time. Tebow vs. Rodgers superbowl! I can dream cant I?
Lets' just make it 3-1. The Tebow will easily beat the hapless Chiefs. Then he goes on a tear of beatdowns against real defenses.
The only two solid defenses I see on the schedule are the Jets and Chargers. And Tebow didn't exactly get a beatdown against the Chargers in the second half of Week 5 - he was one incompletion away from leading them to a big comeback win.If he gets whipped by the Jets, well, he wouldn't be the first QB to get whipped by them. That's why they're a "real defense." The rest of the schedule doesn't look any worse than the Chiefs though. I think he's got a good shot to post a winning record as a starter by the end of this season.
Bears and Minnesota. The Vikings have a weak secondary. Means nothing vs Tebow. It's the front 7. They are 4th vs the run. CHI is 11th.
Yeah, Denver is gonna have to figure out a blitz beater when they go up against those teams. It's a good thing none of the good defensive teams they play put up much offense! And the Denver D is getting better. They aren't great but they have definitely improved over the last couple weeks. It's gonna be a pretty exciting run to the playoffs for a lot of teams this year! Can't wait!
Do you consider yourself a Tebow hater? Honest question.
Nope. I make fun of the guy becasue he's horrible. Some reason that is hating, which in itself is funny.
Static negative opinions based on preconceived notions = Hate
And there it is.
The Bears should dismantle The Tebow. They taught the faster more elusive and much better passer Vick a lesson last night.
blind love for tebow. Oops I forgot. The Tebow.I'd swear you are the hairy scotsman recreated. Didn't end well for him.Oh yeah. Started him once on ESPN. Trying to fit him in this week. Gawd, I hate this guy.
I guess you don't know what blind love is. You might want to come up with more comparisons than just one failed quarterback, especially one that's on the complete other end of the spectrum when it comes to mental toughness.
shnikies,http://youtu.be/rPv9eO4Uxro
