Tim Tebow - 8.17.21 Waived By Jacksonville (2 Viewers)

[TheGBU]

and after Tebow is exposed AGAIN by the Chiefs and the Raiders beat the Chargers who already have Monday morning tee times set up after being blown out last week, the "Tebow era" will end. Elway and Fox can say "look, we gave him every chance and even changed the entire offense to suit him but it just didn't work out" and Tebow will be back to praying on the bench.

When did Tebow get exposed by the Chiefs? Last I checked they went in to KC and won. But hey your the Iexpert!

I meant exposed AGAIN as in he has been destroyed his last two games and the Chiefs will expose him AGAIN. Then again, maybe Jebus will have more time to help Timmy out now that his birthday party is over?

 

[Chaka]

Orton also threw the ball 35 times a game during the first four games. Obviously when you throw the ball 50% less the receiver's stats will suffer. I'm not looking ay stats, I'm looking at the receiver, a very bad receiver.

No, not really. If you are willing to give TT the benefit of the doubt for being young, inexperienced, etc...why not Decker? Earlier in the year he was making plays and those plays weren't due strictly to the volume of passes that came his way. He was the most reliable WR on the rooster up until the past month or so.

If he didn't close his eyes and squint every time he was about to catch a ball and take a hit, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't have heart and heart isn't something you teach. He shies away from contact and that's not something that usually changes unless you're a character in "Jerry Maguire".

Alright somebody has to say it. You are uncomfortablly in love with Tebow therefore bias and your opinion and point of view are worthless. You pretend you know the game of football but everytime you post you prove otherwise. TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS A NFL QUARTERBACK. You can blame the coaches, wide receivers, John Elway, the media or whoever the hell you like but the fact is TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS AN NFL QUARTERBACK.

Outstanding analysis. Insightful comments like this are what makes this such a great forum. I'm especially a big fan of how you use subtlety to make your point, not to mention facts to back yourself up.

Watch the games with an unbiased view and you'll have your facts.

Maybe you should take your own advice. Is Tebow a great QB not yet, but he has shown potential to be one. You cannot just look at the passing yards with Tebow you need to look at his whole game. If your looking for Dan Marino your right, but if your looking for a young Steve Young type ( I know he needs to improve his passing more, but he has improved tons this season and with an offseason to work with Elway he should improve).

Steve Young is a bad comparison to Tebow. Young came into the NFL with a great deal of experience reading defenses, passing, and an NFL ready compact, quick release.Tebow has none of that. The only similarity is that they are both white lefties that can run.

 

[shnikies]

Orton also threw the ball 35 times a game during the first four games. Obviously when you throw the ball 50% less the receiver's stats will suffer. I'm not looking ay stats, I'm looking at the receiver, a very bad receiver.

No, not really. If you are willing to give TT the benefit of the doubt for being young, inexperienced, etc...why not Decker? Earlier in the year he was making plays and those plays weren't due strictly to the volume of passes that came his way. He was the most reliable WR on the rooster up until the past month or so.

If he didn't close his eyes and squint every time he was about to catch a ball and take a hit, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't have heart and heart isn't something you teach. He shies away from contact and that's not something that usually changes unless you're a character in "Jerry Maguire".

Alright somebody has to say it. You are uncomfortablly in love with Tebow therefore bias and your opinion and point of view are worthless. You pretend you know the game of football but everytime you post you prove otherwise. TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS A NFL QUARTERBACK. You can blame the coaches, wide receivers, John Elway, the media or whoever the hell you like but the fact is TIM TEBOW SUCKS AS AN NFL QUARTERBACK.

Outstanding analysis. Insightful comments like this are what makes this such a great forum. I'm especially a big fan of how you use subtlety to make your point, not to mention facts to back yourself up.

Watch the games with an unbiased view and you'll have your facts.

Maybe you should take your own advice. Is Tebow a great QB not yet, but he has shown potential to be one. You cannot just look at the passing yards with Tebow you need to look at his whole game. If your looking for Dan Marino your right, but if your looking for a young Steve Young type ( I know he needs to improve his passing more, but he has improved tons this season and with an offseason to work with Elway he should improve).

Steve Young is a bad comparison to Tebow. Young came into the NFL with a great deal of experience reading defenses, passing, and an NFL ready compact, quick release.Tebow has none of that. The only similarity is that they are both white lefties that can run.

In no way am I comparing Tebow to Young. That would be foolish. But to clear up some facts, Young played in the USFL for two years before the NFL and was pretty bad for his two years in Tampa.

 

[thatguy]

A young QB had a bad game, it happens. Heck, all QBs young and old have bad games. Brady threw 4 picks against that same defense this year ton to the next topic, can we get an Eric Decker hate-club that's on par with the Tebow-hater club? That ball-skilless clown makes 50% of the easy plays and 0% of the hard ones.

I'd like to be on the board of the Eric Decker Hate Club. The guy's a joke. He plays like a woman's private part. There are some people I love watching play and some I hate. Decker is at the top of the latter's list.

Funny; he was lighting it up when Orton was in there.

I didn't know a quarterback change was an excuse for being terrible. Lighting it up? Hardly. Plus, Thomas has done ok with Tebow. Maybe it's because he doesn't start crying every time he hears an opponent's footsteps.

Actually, this is interesting. I tutor a kid who plays high school football for a school near where Decker lives. Decker was at a lot of their practices this season, and Decker and my student became 'friends' of sorts. They text back and forth (my student plays WR, and is quite good, so they have that in common), Decker gets him tickets to home games, that kind of thing. So, I asked him how Decker felt with Tebow at the helm given that his targets and numbers have gone way down. Apparently, Decker told him that he hates going over the middle, and loves playing with Tebow because the only times he really looks for him is on deep balls when he's wide open. Lends a lot of credence to what you're saying. Bottom line is you're right: Decker hates going over the middle and is indeed afraid of getting hit. Eddie Mac V2, as many were calling him earlier this season, he is not, and will likely never be.

So now were using high school kids as a reliable source.

Um, yeah, I am--but not high school kids, one high school kid in particular. I have no reason to believe he just made all of that stuff up. He's a good kid and great athlete.Look, I'm passing along information. Take it or leave it, but don't be a ####.

Did you hear? Mary said Jimmy is dating Sally because she puts out. Hows that for a ####.

Eh, not feeling it. Just keep being yourself, you have it down pat.

 

[Faust]

Cosell Talks: Broncos Must Toss Tebow’s Training Wheels

by Greg Cosell

Tim Tebow’s fourth quarter and overtime heroics cannot be sustained over a long period of time. This is not an attack on Tebow, it’s simply a reality. And it has to be conceded as we both celebrate what he’s accomplishing, and as the Broncos enter a critical phase in which they must remove all Tebow’s training wheels in order to evaluate whether he is a viable, long-term solution at quarterback.

I watched every Tebow throw his last year at Florida, and have seen every play in his 2 year career with the Broncos. One advantage he has shown as a mobile quarterback is the ability to compensate for his deficiencies as a pocket passer with his ability to make plays outside the structure of the offense. That’s a positive.

Through Tebow’s first 8 NFL starts, the argument had been presented that because the read option and its corollaries were anomalies in the NFL, they were more difficult to stop. But the numbers did not support that. In quarters 1 through 3 of those 8 starts, Tebow and the Broncos offense had 79 possessions. They scored only 8 touchdowns, or, about 1 TD every 10 possessions. Such poor offensive production is not emblematic of a system that’s hard to defend.

In addition, Tebow completed less than 39% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of those 8 games. So the idea that the read option was creating all kinds of problems for defensive coaches was more perception than reality. Almost all defenses had devised aggressive game plans that severely minimized and often shut down both Tebow and the Broncos offense. They played that defense with conviction through 3½ quarters.

Then, in the fourth quarter, defensive coordinators abandoned what had worked and deployed the conventional wisdom of “prevent” defense: soft zones, minimal pressure, trade yards for time. In other words: defenses against which Tebow could thrive.

But even with his late game success, Tebow’s overall third down passing numbers remain deficient: Just 23% of his third down throws had resulted in first downs. That was the lowest percentage in the NFL. It is not possible to achieve real long term success with those kinds of third down metrics.

This past week against the Patriots, the first team the Broncos played over the last 2 months that could score for 4 quarters, Tebow threw the ball better, with more consistent accuracy. He just wasn’t asked to throw it enough. Yes, he continued to miss some routine throws, but more than in any previous game, he looked like he could develop into a more efficient passer from the pocket. There certainly are limitations — his inability to throw with anticipation being one of the most glaring — and he must be carefully managed and manipulated by the offensive game plan. But that’s what must be done with almost all young and inexperienced quarterbacks.

Tebow’s heroics have been epic in scope, and mythic in appeal, but they are not sustainable over time, and they will not make Denver a championship contender. With Buffalo and Kansas City remaining on the schedule, it’s time to find out if Tebow can develop into an NFL quarterback in a passing league. It is time for the Broncos to increase Tebow’s responsibilities as a passer, to throw the ball more proactively and aggressively. They must recognize that to be truly competitive in the AFC, and the entire NFL, they must continue to evolve into a more conventional passing team. It is time to find out if Tebow can handle it. If they don’t, they won’t know whether he can be the answer at the most important position on the field.

Published: December 19, 2011

Filed Under: Denver Broncos, From the Desk of Greg Cosell, Greg Cosell, Inside the Game

 

[Disc Shark]

Cosell Talks: Broncos Must Toss Tebow’s Training Wheels

by Greg Cosell

Tim Tebow’s fourth quarter and overtime heroics cannot be sustained over a long period of time. This is not an attack on Tebow, it’s simply a reality. And it has to be conceded as we both celebrate what he’s accomplishing, and as the Broncos enter a critical phase in which they must remove all Tebow’s training wheels in order to evaluate whether he is a viable, long-term solution at quarterback.

I watched every Tebow throw his last year at Florida, and have seen every play in his 2 year career with the Broncos. One advantage he has shown as a mobile quarterback is the ability to compensate for his deficiencies as a pocket passer with his ability to make plays outside the structure of the offense. That’s a positive.

Through Tebow’s first 8 NFL starts, the argument had been presented that because the read option and its corollaries were anomalies in the NFL, they were more difficult to stop. But the numbers did not support that. In quarters 1 through 3 of those 8 starts, Tebow and the Broncos offense had 79 possessions. They scored only 8 touchdowns, or, about 1 TD every 10 possessions. Such poor offensive production is not emblematic of a system that’s hard to defend.

In addition, Tebow completed less than 39% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of those 8 games. So the idea that the read option was creating all kinds of problems for defensive coaches was more perception than reality. Almost all defenses had devised aggressive game plans that severely minimized and often shut down both Tebow and the Broncos offense. They played that defense with conviction through 3½ quarters.

Then, in the fourth quarter, defensive coordinators abandoned what had worked and deployed the conventional wisdom of “prevent” defense: soft zones, minimal pressure, trade yards for time. In other words: defenses against which Tebow could thrive.

But even with his late game success, Tebow’s overall third down passing numbers remain deficient: Just 23% of his third down throws had resulted in first downs. That was the lowest percentage in the NFL. It is not possible to achieve real long term success with those kinds of third down metrics.

This past week against the Patriots, the first team the Broncos played over the last 2 months that could score for 4 quarters, Tebow threw the ball better, with more consistent accuracy. He just wasn’t asked to throw it enough. Yes, he continued to miss some routine throws, but more than in any previous game, he looked like he could develop into a more efficient passer from the pocket. There certainly are limitations — his inability to throw with anticipation being one of the most glaring — and he must be carefully managed and manipulated by the offensive game plan. But that’s what must be done with almost all young and inexperienced quarterbacks.

Tebow’s heroics have been epic in scope, and mythic in appeal, but they are not sustainable over time, and they will not make Denver a championship contender. With Buffalo and Kansas City remaining on the schedule, it’s time to find out if Tebow can develop into an NFL quarterback in a passing league. It is time for the Broncos to increase Tebow’s responsibilities as a passer, to throw the ball more proactively and aggressively. They must recognize that to be truly competitive in the AFC, and the entire NFL, they must continue to evolve into a more conventional passing team. It is time to find out if Tebow can handle it. If they don’t, they won’t know whether he can be the answer at the most important position on the field.

Published: December 19, 2011

Filed Under: Denver Broncos, From the Desk of Greg Cosell, Greg Cosell, Inside the Game

One of the best pieces I've seen on Tebow. And, yes, one of the reasons I think that is because it confirms my own thoughts, biases and prejudices. Cosell rightly gives Tebow credit for his abilities, notes his opportunity to improve and expertly dissects his shortcomings, using things known to rational men and women as facts. Tebow's run of glory, which has been amazing (especially if the Broncos make the playoffs), is not sustainable in the long run. Exactly what FavreCo has stated all along. Do you know how much it pains me to agree with FavreCo?

 

[Two Deep]

Cosell Talks: Broncos Must Toss Tebow’s Training Wheels

by Greg Cosell

Tim Tebow’s fourth quarter and overtime heroics cannot be sustained over a long period of time. This is not an attack on Tebow, it’s simply a reality. And it has to be conceded as we both celebrate what he’s accomplishing, and as the Broncos enter a critical phase in which they must remove all Tebow’s training wheels in order to evaluate whether he is a viable, long-term solution at quarterback.

I watched every Tebow throw his last year at Florida, and have seen every play in his 2 year career with the Broncos. One advantage he has shown as a mobile quarterback is the ability to compensate for his deficiencies as a pocket passer with his ability to make plays outside the structure of the offense. That’s a positive.

Through Tebow’s first 8 NFL starts, the argument had been presented that because the read option and its corollaries were anomalies in the NFL, they were more difficult to stop. But the numbers did not support that. In quarters 1 through 3 of those 8 starts, Tebow and the Broncos offense had 79 possessions. They scored only 8 touchdowns, or, about 1 TD every 10 possessions. Such poor offensive production is not emblematic of a system that’s hard to defend.

In addition, Tebow completed less than 39% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of those 8 games. So the idea that the read option was creating all kinds of problems for defensive coaches was more perception than reality. Almost all defenses had devised aggressive game plans that severely minimized and often shut down both Tebow and the Broncos offense. They played that defense with conviction through 3½ quarters.

Then, in the fourth quarter, defensive coordinators abandoned what had worked and deployed the conventional wisdom of “prevent” defense: soft zones, minimal pressure, trade yards for time. In other words: defenses against which Tebow could thrive.

But even with his late game success, Tebow’s overall third down passing numbers remain deficient: Just 23% of his third down throws had resulted in first downs. That was the lowest percentage in the NFL. It is not possible to achieve real long term success with those kinds of third down metrics.

This past week against the Patriots, the first team the Broncos played over the last 2 months that could score for 4 quarters, Tebow threw the ball better, with more consistent accuracy. He just wasn’t asked to throw it enough. Yes, he continued to miss some routine throws, but more than in any previous game, he looked like he could develop into a more efficient passer from the pocket. There certainly are limitations — his inability to throw with anticipation being one of the most glaring — and he must be carefully managed and manipulated by the offensive game plan. But that’s what must be done with almost all young and inexperienced quarterbacks.

Tebow’s heroics have been epic in scope, and mythic in appeal, but they are not sustainable over time, and they will not make Denver a championship contender. With Buffalo and Kansas City remaining on the schedule, it’s time to find out if Tebow can develop into an NFL quarterback in a passing league. It is time for the Broncos to increase Tebow’s responsibilities as a passer, to throw the ball more proactively and aggressively. They must recognize that to be truly competitive in the AFC, and the entire NFL, they must continue to evolve into a more conventional passing team. It is time to find out if Tebow can handle it. If they don’t, they won’t know whether he can be the answer at the most important position on the field.

Published: December 19, 2011

Filed Under: Denver Broncos, From the Desk of Greg Cosell, Greg Cosell, Inside the Game

One of the best pieces I've seen on Tebow. And, yes, one of the reasons I think that is because it confirms my own thoughts, biases and prejudices. Cosell rightly gives Tebow credit for his abilities, notes his opportunity to improve and expertly dissects his shortcomings, using things known to rational men and women as facts. Tebow's run of glory, which has been amazing (especially if the Broncos make the playoffs), is not sustainable in the long run. Exactly what FavreCo has stated all along. Do you know how much it pains me to agree with FavreCo?

For a minute I thought Favreco wrote the article, but there were not enough divisive language.

 

[Finless]

Some of the sharks saw this developing

If not I'm pretty sure Denver will be interested in Tebow.

Tebow ended up in the right hands and will be a stud for years. I feel like it's just become the popular thing to say: "He's not an NFL quarterback". They'll be a lot of crow eating and I'm pretty sure it won't be happening in this thread. Tebow's got winner written all over him. Denver has a bright future.

 

[jon_mx]

Some of the sharks saw this developing

If not I'm pretty sure Denver will be interested in Tebow.

Tebow ended up in the right hands and will be a stud for years. I feel like it's just become the popular thing to say: "He's not an NFL quarterback". They'll be a lot of crow eating and I'm pretty sure it won't be happening in this thread. Tebow's got winner written all over him. Denver has a bright future.

nice call.

 

[moleculo]

Some of the sharks saw this developing

If not I'm pretty sure Denver will be interested in Tebow.

Tebow ended up in the right hands and will be a stud for years. I feel like it's just become the popular thing to say: "He's not an NFL quarterback". They'll be a lot of crow eating and I'm pretty sure it won't be happening in this thread. Tebow's got winner written all over him. Denver has a bright future.

welcome back, finless.

 

[thatguy]

Apparently, Decker told him that he hates going over the middle, and loves playing with Tebow because the only times he really looks for him is on deep balls when he's wide open.

Well it might also be that Tebow can't throw effectively to his right unless the receiver is wide open. I have really only paid attention to the Vikings', Bears' and Patriots' games so I can't speak to what I haven't seen. What I have seen is Tebow make the occasional first read throws under pressure to his left leading the receiver well with good ball placement; throws to his right were mostly erratic and late. He is able to hit the uncovered receiver to his right when the original play breaks down. Perhaps he lacks the confidence to throw right so his accuracy suffers.

I am not sure why an NFL player would confide in a High School kid but who knows. At any rate. If Decker's ability to play well is limited to a couple of routes he isn't long for the League and he knows it.

I wouldn't say he confides in him, insomuch as he's not asking him for advice or sharing anything with him of a sensitive or secretive nature. It's more like they shoot the ####, so to speak. Decker, like I said, was at almost every one of this kid's team's practices, and because this kid was essentially the star WR for his team, Decker took a liking to him. Demaryius Thomas was also at most of the practices, and I think Royal showed up on occasion, too. Anyway, like I said it was something that Decker told him after being asked how he liked playing with Tebow. I know my student wouldn't lie, he doesn't brag about his relationship with these guys or anything, but I ask him a lot of questions about it because I think it's pretty damn cool. Anyway, it was just a little tidbit that I wanted to pass along, because it fit with what shnikies was saying regarding Decker's fear of contact. It's not proof by any means, but by saying that he hates going over the middle, it does lend a bit more credence to the idea. Then again, I think most WRs, if being truly honest, would admit that, if given the choice between running a go route or a slant/crossing pattern, they'd choose the go route all day long. Most WR's don't like going over the middle, I wouldn't think. The real question is whether or not they're willing to do it, and if they are, whether or not they're going to allow the fear of being hit impact their play.

 

[Finless]

Some of the sharks saw this developing

If not I'm pretty sure Denver will be interested in Tebow.

Tebow ended up in the right hands and will be a stud for years. I feel like it's just become the popular thing to say: "He's not an NFL quarterback". They'll be a lot of crow eating and I'm pretty sure it won't be happening in this thread. Tebow's got winner written all over him. Denver has a bright future.

welcome back, finless.

 

[Hoss Style]

*Edited*

Was just repeating myself. Didn't really add anything new to the thread so I deleted it.

 

[Two Deep]

Classic Tebow at the half 3-8 29 yards and missing wide receivers wildly. His D keeping him in it though.

 

[jon_mx]

Classic Tebow at the half 3-8 29 yards and missing wide receivers wildly. His D keeping him in it though.

If SD keeps it up and wins, I am thinking Tebow won't win. Tebow is not going to waste an effort when it doesn't matter.

 

[Two Deep]

Classic Tebow at the half 3-8 29 yards and missing wide receivers wildly. His D keeping him in it though.

If SD keeps it up and wins, I am thinking Tebow won't win. Tebow is not going to waste an effort when it doesn't matter.

I hear ya. I bet they are telling him, San Diego just scored throw the ball 15 yards wide of your receiver.

 

[FavreCo]

Dude is playing lights out!

 

[Two Deep]

Dude is playing lights out!

The sad fact is they will make the playoffs with this embarrassment of a QB.

 

[jon_mx]

Dude is playing lights out!

Took a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs!

 

[FavreCo]

Dude is playing lights out!

Took a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs!

Yep. It was all him. They should just cut the other 52 bums and sign hacks off the street so they can pay the man what he's worth.A solid day of 6-22 for 60 yards 2 big TO's. Why is this clown playing NFL QB?

 

[Two Deep]

6 of 22 for 60 yards 1 int 1 fumble lost. 3 losses in a row. :X

Where are all the nut huggers

 

[urbanhack]

lol

 

[Saint]

Dude is playing lights out!

Took a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs!

If anything, Tebow should be praying to the San Diego Defense.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Congrats on leading your team to playoffs Tim.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Looks like a team finally figured out that there's no such thing as Tebow Time if the defense plays the same stye in the 4th quarter that they did in the first three quarters.

Looking forward to my Steelers ending this Tebow nonsense next week.

 

[FavreCo]

Looks like a team finally figured out that there's no such thing as Tebow Time if the defense plays the same stye in the 4th quarter that they did in the first three quarters.

Looking forward to my Steelers ending this Tebow nonsense next week.

Can't wait for that.

 

[moleculo]

Tebow looked as bad as favreco says he is. Worst game as a pro, by far.

Elway now has political cover to bring in QB competition, IMO.

 

[jon_mx]

Dude is playing lights out!

Took a 1-4 team and took them to the playoffs!

If anything, Tebow should be praying to the San Diego Defense.

Pretty sure Tebow helped SD's offense out.

 

[AmosMoses]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

 

[Two Deep]

Looks like a team finally figured out that there's no such thing as Tebow Time if the defense plays the same stye in the 4th quarter that they did in the first three quarters.Looking forward to my Steelers ending this Tebow nonsense next week.

Me too, but your Steelers better play a better game then they did today. They barely put away Seneca Wallace and the mighty Browns.

 

[Native]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

Trent Dilfer?

 

[zandbak]

Chiefs did a nice job of just keeping an extra man near the line to stop Tebow scrambles to the edges. There is literally zero threat of him hitting anyone in the passing game.

 

[AmosMoses]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

Trent Dilfer?

Nope. Dilfer took the Bucs to last place in 1995.

 

[ivnabru]

Tebow looked as bad as favreco says he is. Worst game as a pro, by far.Elway now has political cover to bring in QB competition, IMO.

Assuming Denver loses to Pitt. Pitt certainly should win easily, but you never know.

 

[Two Deep]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

KYLE ORTON

 

[duaneok66]

6 of 22 for 60 yards 1 int 1 fumble lost. 3 losses in a row. :X

whew that's bad.

 

[fatness]

Who was that QB today on a sub-.500 team who beat Tebow?

 

[themeanmachine]

Tebow looked as bad as favreco says he is. Worst game as a pro, by far.Elway now has political cover to bring in QB competition, IMO.

Agreed, it seemed like he was making progress, but has now gone backwards. Maybe a full training camp can help him progress, but I'm getting more and more skeptical.

 

[Two Deep]

Who was that QB today on a sub-.500 team who beat Tebow?

You mean the guy who led the 2005 (his rookie year) Chicago Bears to a division championship.

 

[tom22406]

Any guess as to what the line will be on the Steelers and Broncos game?

I would guess the Steelers open around -5 to -6 and should climb to -7 or higher by gametime.

Tebow was a nice story but the secret is out.

 

[thatguy]

Glad Denver made the playoffs. I see Pitt embarrassing them big time, but it's nice that the drought is over anyway.

That said, I'm happy for Orton. That had to feel good. A nice FU to Denver, and I think more importantly for him, to the Denver fans.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

God wasn't by Tebow's side today, he was busy helping San Diego beat Oakland. Tebow will take Denver to the Super Bowl!!!!!!!! Not...

 

[hammerva]

I look forward to seeing which talking head at ESPN or Fox News plays the Jesus Tebow vs Ben the rapist card. You know it will happen

 

[FavreCo]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

File that one in the 'who cares' and 'the tebowners are grasping for anything right now' file.

 

[culdeus]

I'm sad to see the era come to an end next week. It was a nice diversion for awhile.

 

[thatguy]

Tebow looked as bad as favreco says he is. Worst game as a pro, by far.Elway now has political cover to bring in QB competition, IMO.

Agreed, it seemed like he was making progress, but has now gone backwards. Maybe a full training camp can help him progress, but I'm getting more and more skeptical.

I think it's combination of him going backward and other teams figuring out how to stop him. And probably more so the latter.

 

[jon_mx]

All Tebow does is win Division Titles.

 

[munchkin]

Anyone got a list of QBs that took their team to a division title within 2 years?

If by this statement you are implying Tebow has a chance to be a legitimate NFL qb you are only fooling yourself. From what I saw of Tebow in the 2nd half today he has a very steep hill to climb. Granted, McGhee was running on one leg and the list of available plays could have been written on Tebow's thumbnail but that offense posed no legitimate threat to score. Tebow will not go into training camp as the "starter" of your 2012 Denver Broncos.

 

[shadyridr]

cant wait to see how skip bayless spins this one

 

[Two Deep]

All Tebow does is win Division Titles.

I'm sorry did you say something I couldn't hear you there is a #### load of laughter going on in here.