Tim Tebow- What Round? (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

There has been as much speculation about where Tim Tebow will be drafted (and what position he might play) as any other player in the draft, despite many thinking he is not one of the top players available in next month's draft. I have seen him projected anywhere from the 1st round to being a late round pick. So, simple question, which round see Tebow taken?

 

[slayer666]

2nd round

 

[Erin Go Bragh]

I'm on record as saying he'll go in the top 22 picks. Whether he'll go in the first 16 picks...I'm not sure, so I voted second half of round one.

IMO, there is no debate what position he will play. He will be drafted as a QB and will be groomed as such. Any position switch would only occur several years down the road, if ever. That doesn't mean he won't occasionally line up as something else in special packages to get him on the field early on but people that think he will be drafted to play anything but QB don't know what they are talking about...IMO, of course.

For the record, I'm not a gator fan and I suffer from Tebow fatigue as much as the next guy.

 

[David Yudkin]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Between the Late 2nd and Mid 3rd; there doesn't seem to be too many teams competing for him and there some other QBs rated a head of him. TT is a great kid, but won't be NFL ready for 3 or 4 years... similar to Kolb.

 

[Stitch]

2nd round to the Washington Redskins.

 

[Wadsworth]

Late first or early second. I set the over/under at pick 2.12 (New England from Jacksonville) and I'm taking the under.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

2nd round

I think he'll be drafted in the 2nd but I'd draft him in the 5th.

 

[Sinrman]

2nd round

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

jax needs to draft that dude.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I told you guys, he's going to Cleveland at 38.

 

[gianmarco]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

So you think the Rams will pass on him at #1 and the 30 other teams will be trying to trade up to the #2 spot?

 

[Finless]

He's going to end up in New England, the heir apparent. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

 

[runner06]

He's going to end up in New England, the heir apparent. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

Tom Brady isn't that old.

 

[Donnybrook]

I should change my vote. I now think he will go second round to the Panthers. (Assuming none of the WRs fall)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Pa...?urn=nfl,230114

 

[David Yudkin]

He's going to end up in New England, the heir apparent. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

1) The Pats have too many other pressing needs. They need edge pass rushers (DE and OLB), a TE, a RB, a WR, and probably an OLman. And they always seem to need another CB. 2) He's not worth a second round pick, and I doubt NE will be the team that takes on a project with very little chance for any sort of ROI any time soon (unless they want to make him a TE).3) NE has not invested much in terms of QB and have fared very well without having to do so.4) The Pats would have been way more likely to do something like that several years ago when they were the class of the league with hardly any weaknesses and in a position to roll the dice with a luxury pick.5) Unlike some other teams, Tebow won't put fannies in the seats or sell extra tickets.6) I'm pretty sure Tebow would like a chance to prove himself and have a chance to get to play. I don't really see that happening for years in NE. (Not that Tebow gets a vote in any of this.)7) For those suggesting that the Pats would start implementing a wildcat package, it makes no sense to take Tom Brady off the field as he clearly is their best chance to win if he is in there as much as possible.8) What MIGHT happen is that Tebow falls to the Pats and they trade a 2nd round pick that is used to draft Tebow. Maybe for a 2nd next year and a 3rd this year since they don't have one.

 

[EBF]

You never know with the draft. I feel like Tebow has a lot of question marks that should keep him well out of the first round, but this is not a very deep QB class and he has some qualities that could cause someone to pull the trigger far earlier than his tape alone would warrant. He has good character and a big name to hang on the marquee for a year or two.

My gut says he doesn't fall out of the top 50.

I would say these teams have a near zero percent probability of drafting him: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston, Indianapolis, San Diego, Dallas, New York Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Seattle.

I think he'll go to one of these teams somewhere between picks 20-50:

Buffalo

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Jacksonville

Tennessee

Denver

Kansas City

Oakland

Washington

Panthers

Cardinals

Rams

49ers

My gut says he'll be a Bill when it's all said and done. They're not happy with their QB situation, they desperately need a source of excitement to energize their fan base, and they're a wacky enough franchise to drop an early pick on Tebow despite all of the question marks surrounding his game.

 

[ChargersOH]

I'd say end of the first round/beginning of the second.

Some team will take him then and look very smart for doing so in a few years.

 

[thatguy]

Early 5th round.

Deep draft, many GMs need to win now or lose their jobs. I think that will impact the drafting process. Hiring during a lockout, esp a lengthy one, will make it a buyers market for franchises looking for front office and coaching talent on the cheap. At least what's left that doesn't find work in the college game.

It's going to come down to the 3-4 teams that really like him, depending on how the draft shakes out and their boards go during the process, Tebow could legitimately freefall to the lower rounds.

In terms of his versatility, as a potential H back, his being white isn't going to help ( it's not helping that Stanford kid either)

I think he would make an outstanding defensive player if a team was willing to invest in him for the time to learn a new position. All his limitations offensively might translate into a better skill set defensively. Unlike other QB conversions, Tebow doesn't have to try to be a defensive back, he can legitimately be considered a good size/speed for linebacker. His intangibles ( heart, leadership, hard worker) would translate better into a blue collar defender IMHO.

I suspect Shanahan will take him. Just a guess. Rat Face was always a "by the gut" kind of drafter.

Gerhart is a RB... Not an H-Back. His (Tebow's) skin color wouldn't (won't) be at all detrimental to a potential move to H-Back.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Voted 3rd round. Still a bit high for essentially a wildcat qb, but someone will jump.

 

[Jeremy]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

All it takes is one true believer among the 32 teams to draft this guy way higher than he should go. Or one team looking for attention that doesn't normally get a lot, like a Jacksonville or Buffalo.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

So you think he'll go #2 overall?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

So you think he'll go #2 overall?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't see any way he makes it out of the first. I wouldn't take him there, but there for sure is at least one coach out there who thinks he has enough of a chance to be the difference maker in their franchise that they will take the risk.

If Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden have both basically said they'd take him in the top 10, I can't see any way that all 32 NFL coaches will pass on him in the first.

 

[PhilLynott]

I am a huge Bills fan and I am scared. I keep hearing rumors about the second round.

1) Any Qb who waits until AFTER his senior year to change his throwing motion, PROJECT.

2) Any Qb who has a million people speaking to him about his future, PROJECT.

3) Any Qb who, in college, scored the most rushing TD's in NCAA history, BUST, BUST, BUST.

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

Voted 3rd round. Still a bit high for essentially a wildcat qb, but someone will jump.

My thought as well. I don't think NFL teams are as infatuated with him as the media is. Overhyped.

 

[Bri]

possibly late first

late second or early 3rd because he's going to be hard to pass up 3 times and those picking late know how to win and recognize he does too.

 

[Bri]

I am a huge Bills fan and I am scared. I keep hearing rumors about the second round.1) Any Qb who waits until AFTER his senior year to change his throwing motion, PROJECT.2) Any Qb who has a million people speaking to him about his future, PROJECT.3) Any Qb who, in college, scored the most rushing TD's in NCAA history, BUST, BUST, BUST.

there's been a ton of QBs that changed their motion IN the NFL2 huh? Peyton probably had a million people asking him at age 17.3, holds some value to me. Tebow doesn't strike me as one who panics. Young Vince Young has done very well with his feet and I'm still not sold on him as a passer. Young Vick had Atlanta rolling. McNair used to run a bunch. I think Tebow understands efficiency.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Voted 3rd round. Still a bit high for essentially a wildcat qb, but someone will jump.

My thought as well. I don't think NFL teams are as infatuated with him as the media is. Overhyped.

+1. Voted 3rd, but wouldn't be surprised if someone jumps the gun in the second just because he'll bring in fans.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I suspect that there will be 31 smart franchises and a really dumb one.

So you think he'll go #2 overall?

Sarcasm.

 

[PhilLynott]

I am a huge Bills fan and I am scared. I keep hearing rumors about the second round.

1) Any Qb who waits until AFTER his senior year to change his throwing motion, PROJECT.

2) Any Qb who has a million people speaking to him about his future, PROJECT.

3) Any Qb who, in college, scored the most rushing TD's in NCAA history, BUST, BUST, BUST.

there's been a ton of QBs that changed their motion IN the NFL2 huh? Peyton probably had a million people asking him at age 17.

3, holds some value to me. Tebow doesn't strike me as one who panics. Young Vince Young has done very well with his feet and I'm still not sold on him as a passer. Young Vick had Atlanta rolling. McNair used to run a bunch. I think Tebow understands efficiency.

I should have been more precise. Tebow has had a million people in ear about his throwing motion. After 4 years of college ball I can't see that as good thing.

 

[ChargersOH]

Voted 3rd round. Still a bit high for essentially a wildcat qb, but someone will jump.

My thought as well. I don't think NFL teams are as infatuated with him as the media is. Overhyped.

The word you are looking at is over-analyzed. He can't be overhyped if most people are ragging on the dude.Overhyped would be someone who everyone raved about, like the current Stay Puft Marshmellow QB in Oakland, but who has been an actual bust.

Tebow has professionals working with him. You know, coaches? That's hardly a million people in his ear.

I love Rivers, but I have no problems with San Diego taking him in the second, and I think the kid will be a tremendous QB one day very soon. Every QB is a project, and all it takes is determination, whether you are too short, like Drew Brees, or need to coach your mechanics, like Aaron Rogers has.

I really hope no team in the AFC West drafts him, since I think in two years he'll be a monster player.

 

[pollardsvision]

I don't see any way he makes it out of the first. I wouldn't take him there, but there for sure is at least one coach out there who thinks he has enough of a chance to be the difference maker in their franchise that they will take the risk.If Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden have both basically said they'd take him in the top 10, I can't see any way that all 32 NFL coaches will pass on him in the first.

I agree with this. I wouldn't do it, but I think it's pretty clear he'll go in the first round.

 

[Cassius]

65% 2nd round

35% late 1st

imo

 

[munchkin]

Voted 3rd round. Still a bit high for essentially a wildcat qb, but someone will jump.

My thought as well. I don't think NFL teams are as infatuated with him as the media is. Overhyped.

The word you are looking at is over-analyzed. He can't be overhyped if most people are ragging on the dude.Overhyped would be someone who everyone raved about, like the current Stay Puft Marshmellow QB in Oakland, but who has been an actual bust.

Tebow has professionals working with him. You know, coaches? That's hardly a million people in his ear.

I love Rivers, but I have no problems with San Diego taking him in the second, and I think the kid will be a tremendous QB one day very soon. Every QB is a project, and all it takes is determination, whether you are too short, like Drew Brees, or need to coach your mechanics, like Aaron Rogers has.

I really hope no team in the AFC West drafts him, since I think in two years he'll be a monster player.

Surely you don't mean this as it is written. I would venture that 90% of the kids who get drafted or end up on a team as a UFA are determined to make it in the NFL; not many do. There is nothing unique about Tebow's determination. In life many people want something and work hard at it, not everyone achieves their goals. Isolating Tebow as the Greek god of Determination is not accurate and in a sense disses other players who work hard in an attempt to excel in the NFL. The reason Tebow appears to be over-analyzed is because he has been overhyped. As College Football's acclaimed "Best Player Ever" one would expect such a person to gain special attention. Few people care about Tony Pike or Dam Lefoever; many people haven't a clue as to who they are.

Tebow was a great College player and is a good kid; we'll soon find out if he's a legitimate NFL QB prospect.

I hope the Bolts take him with either their 1st or 2nd round pick; that will leave one more potential impact player on defense for the Patriots.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

As high as pick 9. Probably mid to late first round. If JP Losman, Matt Jones and Willis McGahee (on a torn ACL, PCL and MCL) are first round picks, Tebow can be one too.

 

[Foosball God]

Between the Late 2nd and Mid 3rd

This is my guess as well

 

[Hang 10]

Has there ever been a draft candidate nitpicked as much as Tebow? Sure he's got his short comings but it's just funny that the scouts just gushed over guys like Jamarcus Russel and look how silly that looks in retrospect. Why would scouts think Russel was better prospect in the first place? Big arm? Is that it?

 

[Donsmith753]

I think that the one thing that cannot be underestimated is a coaches ego. Someone will want to be "the guy that made Tebow an NFL QB" and for that reason will draft him higher than he should be.

This will also have the opposite affect on some other teams who don't want to be the one who drafts Tebow too early and watches him bust.

Personally I think he'll go late first/early second. In reality at the moment he's probably a 3rd round quality qb. I do love his potential though and believe he'll be a solid starter in the league in a few years.

 

[Gr00vus]

He'll go in the 3rd round, waste of a pick.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

If Bradford, Clausen, Okung, Bulaga and T Williams are gone at 9, I bet the Bills take him. At least I hope they'd take one of those other 5 players first.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Between the Late 2nd and Mid 3rd

This is my guess as well

 

[Jayded]

My guess is 2nd round and it'll be early. One of the teams will covet him once he's made it out of the first round and throw some additional picks at a team like Detroit at the top of the 2nd round and will move up to get him.

 

[thevidon]

You never know with the draft. I feel like Tebow has a lot of question marks that should keep him well out of the first round, but this is not a very deep QB class and he has some qualities that could cause someone to pull the trigger far earlier than his tape alone would warrant. He has good character and a big name to hang on the marquee for a year or two. My gut says he doesn't fall out of the top 50. I would say these teams have a near zero percent probability of drafting him: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston, Indianapolis, San Diego, Dallas, New York Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Seattle. I think he'll go to one of these teams somewhere between picks 20-50:BuffaloCincinnatiClevelandJacksonvilleTennesseeDenverKansas CityOaklandWashingtonPanthersCardinalsRams49ersMy gut says he'll be a Bill when it's all said and done. They're not happy with their QB situation, they desperately need a source of excitement to energize their fan base, and they're a wacky enough franchise to drop an early pick on Tebow despite all of the question marks surrounding his game.

EBF I think you are wrong about the Colts and the Pats. The Colts need a better backup/developmental qb, and being a covertly (overtly?) Christian locker room may well welcome picking up Tebow in the 2nd. The Pats are in the same boat with needing a better #2/developmental QB, and from what I have seen in their drafts so far they value winners and hard workers above all else. I could easily see either of these franchises picking him up in the 2nd - especially the pats given their extra 2nd round picks.

 

[munchkin]

You never know with the draft. I feel like Tebow has a lot of question marks that should keep him well out of the first round, but this is not a very deep QB class and he has some qualities that could cause someone to pull the trigger far earlier than his tape alone would warrant. He has good character and a big name to hang on the marquee for a year or two. My gut says he doesn't fall out of the top 50. I would say these teams have a near zero percent probability of drafting him: Miami, New England, New York Jets, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston, Indianapolis, San Diego, Dallas, New York Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Seattle. I think he'll go to one of these teams somewhere between picks 20-50:BuffaloCincinnatiClevelandJacksonvilleTennesseeDenverKansas CityOaklandWashingtonPanthersCardinalsRams49ersMy gut says he'll be a Bill when it's all said and done. They're not happy with their QB situation, they desperately need a source of excitement to energize their fan base, and they're a wacky enough franchise to drop an early pick on Tebow despite all of the question marks surrounding his game.

EBF I think you are wrong about the Colts and the Pats. The Colts need a better backup/developmental qb, and being a covertly (overtly?) Christian locker room may well welcome picking up Tebow in the 2nd. The Pats are in the same boat with needing a better #2/developmental QB, and from what I have seen in their drafts so far they value winners and hard workers above all else. I could easily see either of these franchises picking him up in the 2nd - especially the pats given their extra 2nd round picks.

The Pats really like Hoyer. As you know they kept him as the lone backup to Brady last season. Hoyer showed great field presence in the limited time he saw the field. The game did not look to be too fast for him. Again, this was an admittedly limited picture but many pundits thought the team would bring in an experienced signal caller as the year went along; didn't happen. Don't sell this kid short. The Pats already have a hard working QB with the intangibles a coaching staff might look for on their roster. His name is Brian Hoyer.The team generally picks a qb at some point in the draft and with 4 compensatory picks in the 6th and 7th round they will likely take one late.

 

[Two Deep]

Will go by three but should realistically talant wise go 6-7th round.

 

[David Yudkin]

As I posted in one of the other threads, does winning in college really translate to winning in the NFL? And does winning in college translate to QB success in the NFL?

For comparison, Tim Tebow went 35-6, won a National Championship, and won a Heisman.

- Danny Wuerffel at Florida went 45-6-1 as a starter and won the Heisman and the National Championship. He ended up as a 4th round pick and played 6 years as a backup in the pros.

- Chris Weinke won the Heisman and a National Championship at Florida State and ended up 32-3 as a starter. He also was a 4th round pick. He wound up with a 2-18 record as a starter in the NFL.

- Charlie Ward also won the Heisman (by over 1,600 votes compared to the runner up) and led Flordia State to the National Championship and went 23-2 as a starter. He didn't even get drafted (apparently telling teams if they didn't draft him on the first round then he would play basketball instead).

- Gino Toretta went 23-1 as a starter at Miami. National Championship, Heisman winner. 7th round pick. Played in 2 NFL games in his entire career bouncing around 5 NFL franchises.

- David Greene won 42 games at Georgia and was a 3rd round (85th pick). He bounced around various camps but never played a game in the NFL (Seahawks, Patriots, Chiefs, Colts).

- Ken Dorsey led Miami to a 38-2 record and a national title. He was a two time Heisman finalist, but went in the 7th round. He bounced around and ended up with a career record as an NFL starter of 2-11.

- Tommie Frazier went 33-3 at Nebraska, was runner up in the Heisman, and won back-to-back titles. He went undrafted with concerns over his health.

- Rick Leach went 38-8-2 at Michigan and was drafted in the 5th round. He opted to play baseball instead.

- Eric Crouch won the Heisman and led Nebraska to a 35-7 record and was a 3rd round (95th pick) in the draft . . . as a WR. When that didn't stick, he tried to convert to safety and ended in NFL Europe.

- Troy Smith went 27-4 as a starter at Ohio State and won the Heisman. He was a 5th round pick. He's been a back up from 3 seasons in the NFL.

- Jason White won the Heisman and led Oklahoma to a 24-3 record. He went undrafted, eventually tried out for a couple of teams, but never played in the NFL.

- Ty Detmer won a Heisman at BYU and IIRC went 30-9-1 as a starter. He saw limited success as a back up for 6 NFL franchises and posted an 11-14 record as a starter.

- Andre Ware had more draft fanfare than most of the others I've listed, as he was drafted 7th overall. A Heisman winner from Houston, he left school early after posting a 9-2 record in 1989. He lasted 4 years in the NFL and went 5-5 before moving to NFL Europe and the CFL.

- Matt Leinart won the Heisman and sported an impressive 37-2 record for USC. He'll likely get a bigger chance to prove something this year, but so far he's been so so with a sub .500 record as a starter.

I'm sure I could find more examples, but IMO, winning in college does not prove anything in the NFL. Maybe Tebow will be different, but I don't see that one leads to the other.

Again, as I mentioned earlier, all it takes is one team to have an itchy trigger finger, and there will likely be someone that will call Tebow's name a lot earlier than they should.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I have a feeling that if he is still there when the Vikings go on the clock at 30, they will either take him or trade out of the spot for someone who is going to pick him there.