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12 -- Was anyone here ever a male cheerleader?

Some good moments here, but not really that epic.

13 -- If You Love Someone...

I know that some of the younger, more inexperienced members of the FFA are deserving of some chuckles from some of us, but we’ve all been there at some point in our lives. This wasn’t thaaat funny.

14 -- GM and Shuke Eat Off

These guys kill me…

 
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BTW: I had originally wanted to provide links from the great moments of these threads, but I simply don't have the time. :shrug:

FFA threads cont'd

15 -- CoilegeHumor's America's Hottest College Girl '09

Wasn’t familiar with this one -- some good moments…

16 -- FF Excuse Shirts

A classic.

 
This is my first time in a draft like this and my first time as a judge. So I did my best within the parameters of the given original criteria. And when looking at the given criteria, even they have wiggle room and gray area for opinion to factor in. Also, I am incredibly passionate about this category, so it was very challenging to leave my personal preferences totally out of the rankings. Some of these albums are on my personal favorites and others are not. With that being said, I tried to be as objective as possible when evaluating these albums. Overall, I feel we (the drafters) did a great job of choosing great albums. Not one bad pick in my opinion. You all made it super tough on me.

Reminder of Criteria for best Hip Hop Album (in no particular order)

1) Longevity - does it stand the test of time?

2) Influence - did it greatly influence future artists? Change the way albums were made?

3) Quality - a great album has no filler. Skippable tracks significantly degrade the rating of an album.

4) Respect - this is esoteric but hip-hop is huge on respect. Is it widely hailed as a classic? This is admittedly somewhat similar to influence.

Albums left out that would have done well (no order):

*The Blueprint by Jay-Z

*Raising Hell by Run-DMC

*3 Feet Rising by De La Soul

*Paul’s Boutique by Beastie Boys

*Miseducation of Lauryn Hill by Lauryn Hill

*Life After Death by The Notorious BIG

*Me Against the World by 2Pac

*The Score by The Fugees

*Strictly Business by EPMD

*Criminal Minded by Boogie Down Productions

*Fear of a Black Planet by Public Enemy

 
8 Points – Doggystyle by Snoop Doggy Dogg

It’s a testament to the albums placed ahead of this one as to how incredibly tough this category is. Doggystyle was arguably the most anticipated debut album EVER. And it was amazing. An album that was heavily criticized not only for its content, but its album cover as well, Snoop delivered a true gangster album that celebrated the nihilistic life of a young man growing up in the gang infested streets of Long Beach. Laced by some of Dr. Dre’s greatest production, anyone who lives in LA can testify to the fact that out of all of Snoop’s songs, more from this album get played than any of his other albums. A true west coast classic with very little, if any filler.

Wiki Quote: “Despite some mixed criticism of the album initially upon its release, Doggystyle has earned recognition from many music critics as one of the most significant albums of the 1990s, as well as one of the most important hip hop albums ever released. Much like The Chronic, the distinctive sounds of Doggystyle helped introduce the hip hop style of G-funk to a mainstream audience, bringing forward West Coast hip hop as a dominant force in the early 1990s. As of 2008, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has certified Doggystyle quadruple platinum in sales, and it serves as Snoop Dogg's highest-selling album. Doggystyle debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 chart, and sold 802,858 copies in its first week alone, which was the record for a debuting artist and the fastest-selling album ever until Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP in 2000. Doggystyle is included in The Source magazine's list of the 100 Best Rap Albums, as well as Rolling Stone magazine's list of Essential Recordings of the 90s. About.com placed the album in number 19 of the greatest hip hop/rap albums of all time.

Stand Out Tracks:

*What’s My Name:

*Gin And Juice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHvgwt7BVzY

 
9 Points – All Eyez on Me by 2Pac

All Eyez On Me is not only an album, but it was also a key moment in the history of hip-hop. It was 2Pac’s first post-jail album, the first true double album, and the beginning of the tragic East/West drama. While 2Pac was certainly a star prior to this album, with this album, he became a superstar. In the catalogue of 2pac, many of his most famous songs appear courtesy of this release. It’s his biggest selling album. And while it’s impact and recognition was incredible, this album did not quite show the depth and different sides of 2pac’s character as much as some of his other releases.

Wiki Quote: “The album is frequently recognized as one of the crowning achievements of 1990s rap music. It has been said that "despite some undeniable filler, it is easily the best production 2Pac's ever had on record". It was certified 5× Platinum after just 2 months in April 1996 and 9× platinum in 1998. The album featured the Billboard Hot 100 number one singles "How Do U Want It" and "California Love". It featured 5 singles in all, the most of any 2Pac album. Moreover, All Eyez On Me made history as the first double-full-length hip-hop solo studio album released for mass consumption. It was issued on two compact discs and four LPs. Chartwise, All Eyez on Me was the second album from 2Pac to hit number-one on both the Billboard 200 and the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums charts. It sold 566,000 copies in the first week of its release, and was charted on the top 100 with the top one-week Soundscan sales since 1991. The album won the 1997 Soul Train R&B/Soul or Rap Album of the Year Award. Shakur also won the Award for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Artist at the 24th Annual American Music Awards and is also commonly referred to as one of the greatest hip hop/rap albums of the 1990's.

Stand Out Tracks:

*California Love:

 
10 Points – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx by Raekwon

Probably the greatest solo project from any member of the Wu Tang Clan. This is album is a true classic. Rugged street tales with mafia influence, spit over that elite (at the time) production of the Rza, any fan of raw, street hip-hop was a fan of this album. It was unique. It was different. And it was an opportunity for Raekwon to throw his name into the hat of big dogs at the time and when released he was on a similar level of that of NaS and Jay-Z whose albums at the time were influenced by this album. Definitely the home of some memorable hip-hop tracks.

Wiki Quote: “Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... has increased its acclamation among music critics and writers over the years, as many have lauded it as one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. With its emphasis on American Mafia insinuations and organized crime, the album is widely regarded as a pioneer of the Mafioso rap genre. It has been esteemed as being highly effective on hip hop music over the next decade, being heavily referenced and influential on albums such as Doe or Die, Reasonable Doubt, It Was Written and Life After Death. Along with GZA's Liquid Swords, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... is classified by many to be the best of Wu-Tang solo material. Its success spawned a sequel 14 years later with 2009's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II. In 2012, Rolling Stone magazine ranked Cuban Linx number 480 on their list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Ice Cream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvBHV2THlTo&feature=fvst

*Incarcerated Scarfaces:

 
11 Points – Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem

Slim Shady, whom many panned as nothing more than a fad after his first album, created an absolute monster with his second album. Incredibly popular. Incredibly controversial. Incredibly amazing. He was able to walk the fine line of hip-hop/pop with an album that was shocking, disgusting, insightful, and memorable. Facing a firing squad that many other hip-hop acts never had to face (due to his race), Eminem was able to create a truly special piece of art. Whether it was the haunting “Stan”, the angry “Way I Am” or the off the wall “Kim” – you remember this album.

Wiki Quote: “Released on May 23, 2000, the album sold more than 1.76 million copies in the US in the first week alone. In 2001, the album won the Grammy Award for Best Rap Album and was nominated for Album of the Year. The album was certified diamond by the Recording Industry Association of America in the United States with shipments over 10 million. As of 2005 the album had sold over 19 million units worldwide. The Marshall Mathers LP has been ranked as one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all-time by Rolling Stone, Time, and XXL. Rolling Stone placed the album at number 7 on its list of the best albums of the 2000s. The album was ranked number 244 by Rolling Stone on their list of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. Cynthia ***hs of PopMatters called Eminem "clever" and stated, "That Eminem's imagination takes him to dark and disagreeable places is predictable; that he exhibits it so relentlessly and so profitably is something else." Chuck Eddy of The Village Voice gave it a rave review and noted "a self-awareness and emotional complexity [...] that Eminem previously seemed incapable of".

Stand Out Tracks:

*Stan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHfdV3gw9Q

*Way I Am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6ldvKn40sE

*Who Knew:

 
12 Points – Stankonia by OutKast

OutKast, similar to ATCQ, are a group that not only have a unique sound, but also managed to use that eccentricity to create amazing music. And Stankonia is an album that truly showcases Andre 3000 and Big Boi’s versatility as MCs and artists. This album incorporated a variety of musical styles and lyrical topics that ultimately created an incredible listening experience. Not only did this album garner vast critical acclaim, but it was commercially successful and helped pushed the envelope in terms of defining “hip-hop” music.

Wiki Quote: In 2003, the album was ranked number 359 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. It is currently regarded as one of the most influential hip-hop albums of all time. Stankonia received universal acclaim from music critics. It is the eleventh-highest ranked album of the century on Metacritic with a score of 95, indicating "universal acclaim". Derek A. Bardowell of NME noted that with Stankonia, OutKast "hit that rare balance of creative eccentricity and mass appeal" and wrote that the album contains "eternal qualities that will unravel in time on an emotional, intellectual and spiritual level." Nathan Brackett of Rolling Stone called the record "one of the best albums of the year" noting that all of the tracks contain "a down-home generosity and accessibility" and that "even the most street-oriented songs have some sort of commentary in them.” Steve Huey of Allmusic gave the album 5 out of 5 stars and wrote "given the variety of moods, it helps that the album is broken up by brief, usually humorous interludes, which serve as a sort of reset button. It takes a few listens to pull everything together, but given the immense scope, it's striking how few weak tracks there are".

Stand Out Tracks:

*Ms. Jackson:

 
13 Points – Straight Outta Compton by N.W.A.

This was the album the scared the living hell out of White America and eventually got a cease and desist letter from the F.B.I. Yet at the same time, it captured the ears of the younger white America and in turn was a classic album. With street raw production of Dr. Dre laced with street conscious lyrics from a young Ice Cube, gangster nihilism from MC Ren and street edge/humor of Eazy-E this album was one of the first to truly capture the reality of the inner-city for young African-Americans (especially in Los Angeles).

Wiki Quote: “The album has been viewed as the pioneering record of gangsta rap; with its ever-present profanity and violent lyrics, it helped to give birth to this then-new sub-genre of hip hop. It has been considered groundbreaking by music writers and has had an enormous impact on the evolution of West Coast hip hop. Straight Outta Compton redefined the direction of hip hop, which resulted in lyricism concerning the gangster lifestyle becoming the driving force in sales figures. It also helped to shift the power to the West Coast from the East Coast, which had enjoyed a period of prominence in hip hop for most of the 1980s. It is the group's only album on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (ranked #144), and the first hip-hop album ever to get a 5-star rating from them in their initial review.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Straight Outta Compton:

 
14 Points: Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu Tang Clan

“Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Cream get the money…” Arguably (maybe not) the most eccentric group in hip-hop history created a widely agreed upon classic debut album. Whether it was the haunting, dark production of the RZA, or the lyrics of Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, Ol’ Dirty ******* (RIP), The GZA, U-God or Inspectah Deck, this album was amazingly different. It was like nothing before its time. This album was not only a monster amongst its peers, it was an album that launched the careers of its members; many of which are still relative to this day.

Wiki Quote: The distinctive sound of Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) created a blueprint for hardcore hip hop during the 1990s and helped return New York City hip hop to national prominence. Its sound also became hugely influential in modern hip hop production, while the group members' explicit, humorous, and free-associative lyrics have served as a template for many subsequent hip hop records. Serving as a landmark record in the era of hip hop known as the East Coast Renaissance, its influence helped lead the way for several other East Coast hip hop artists, including Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., Mobb Deep, and Jay-Z. Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) has been regarded by music writers as one of the most significant albums of the 1990s, as well as one of the greatest hip hop albums of all-time. In 2003, the album was ranked number 386 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

Stand Out Tracks:

*C.R.E.A.M.:

 
15 Points: Paid in Full by Eric B and Rakim

“Thinkin’ of a master plan…” Talk about a classic album from the golden age of hip-hop. When you think of some of the seminal tracks from 80s hip-hop, this album is responsible for many of them. With Eric B’s classic beats and the untouchable (at the time) Rakim’s lyrics, “Paid in Full” is an album that any hip-hop head knows well. The sound of this album was just different than other hip-hop albums at the time.

Wiki Quote: Paid in Full is credited as a benchmark album of golden age hip hop. Rakim's rapping, which pioneered the use of internal rhymes in hip hop, set a higher standard of lyricism in the genre and served as a template for future rappers. The album's heavy sampling by Eric B. became influential in hip hop production. The record has sold over a million copies and the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) certified it platinum in 1995. In 2003, the album was ranked number 227 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

Stand Out Tracks:

Paid in Full:

 
16 Points: The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest

In between the gritty urban tales of east and west coast inner cities and the Black nationalist thought of PE was a group led by the unique voice of Q-Tip. This album sounded (and still does) incredibly different than most other hip-hop albums and almost single handedly ushered in the era of back pack rappers. They were truly leaders of a new school. Much more rooted in jazz production, Q-Tip, Phife Dawg and Ali Shaheed created an incredible album that’s a must listen for any music fan.

Wiki Quote: “The Low End Theory helped shape alternative hip hop in the 1990s. It established the musical, cultural, and historical link between hip hop and jazz. The album was considered an instant classic with a 5 mics rating in The Source. Reviewer Reef lauded their "progressive sound" and "streetwise edge". Writer Oliver Wang called the album "a consummate link between generations", which took the essence of jazz and hip hop, and "showing they originated from the same black center." The group's "mellow innovations" helped jazz rap gain significant exposure from 1992 to 1993. Rolling Stone ranked the album at number 154 in "The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time", stating that "people connected the dots between hip-hop and jazz -- both were revolutionary forms of black music based in improvisation and flow -- but A Tribe Called Quest's second album drew the entire picture."

Stand Out Tracks:

Scenario:

Jazz (We Got): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22yKJRZoZc

 
17 Points: The Chronic by Dr. Dre

With no disrespect to west coast albums released before or after this album, Dr. Dre’s solo debut album is the seminal west coast hip-hop album. It’s a musical classic with incredible and groundbreaking production. Not only was it was the soundtrack to post-riots Los Angeles it ultimately swung the hip-hop power pendulum to Los Angeles; establishing Death Row and eventually 2Pac as the preeminent force in hip-hop in the mid-90s. In terms of influence within the genre, there’s not many albums that rival “The Chronic.”

Wiki Quote: “Dr. Dre's production has been noted for founding and popularizing the G-funk sub-genre within gangsta rap. The Chronic has been widely regarded as one of the most important and influential albums of the 1990s and regarded by many fans and peers to be one of the most well-produced hip hop albums of all time. In 2003, the album was ranked number 137 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. The album launched the careers of West Coast hip hop artists, including Snoop Doggy Dogg, Daz Dillinger, Kurupt, Nate Dogg, and Warren G, Dr. Dre's stepbrother – all of whom pursued successful commercial careers. The Chronic is widely regarded as the album that re-defined West Coast hip hop, demonstrated gangsta rap's commercial potential as a multi-platinum commodity, and established G-funk as the most popular sound in hip hop music for several years after its release, with Dr. Dre producing major albums that drew heavily on his production style.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Nuthin’ But a G Thang:

*Dre Day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTfGCe3dZ1A

 
18 Points – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back by Public Enemy

“Yes…the rhythm the rebel.” With purpose-driven, socially conscious lyrics of Chuck D and the Joker of hip-hop Flavor Flav rapping over the aggressive production of the Bomb Squad, a classic album ensued. Providing social commentary ranging from Black Nationalism to self-empowerment to exploitation within the industry, PE’s album was incredibly conscious.

Wiki Quote: “It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back has since been regarded by music writers and publications as one of the greatest and most influential albums of all-time. It has been hailed for its production techniques and the socially and politically charged lyricism of lead MC Chuck D. In 2003, the album was ranked number 48 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time, the highest ranking of all the hip hop albums on the list. Time magazine hailed it as one of the 100 greatest albums of all time in 2006. Kurt Cobain, the lead guitarist and singer of rock band Nirvana, listed the album as one of his top 50 favorite albums in his Journals.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Don’t Believe the Hype:

 
19 Points – Ready to Die by The Notorious B.I.G.

Another album with an iconic album cover. Biggie Smalls debut album carefully went into the mind and soul of a Brooklyn hustler with grandiose aspirations. Blessed with an amazing flow, an inflated yet charming ego and the gift of storytelling, Biggie’s album essentially shifted the power of hip-hop from the west coast back to its birthplace. Loaded with classics and production from the likes of Easy Mo Bee, DJ Premier and Sean “Puffy” Combs himself, this album’s story was truly incredible.

Wiki Quote: “Ready to Die gained strong reviews on release and became a commercial success, reaching quadruple platinum sales. It was significant for revitalizing the East Coast hip hop scene, amid West Coast hip hop's commercial dominance. The album's second single, "Big Poppa", was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Rap Solo Performance at the 1996 Grammy Awards. Ready to Die has been regarded by several music critics as one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time. In 2003, the album was ranked number 133 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time, making it the third highest hip hop album on the list. In 2006, Time included it on their list of the 100 greatest albums of all time.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Juicy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31sVRZJr1c

*Big Poppa:

 
20 Points – Illmatic by NaS

Inside the iconic cover, NaS’ debut album is a rare album that in hip-hop “gospel” is generally considered a classic album. With raw and urgent lyrics over all-star production by the likes of DJ Premier, Pete Rock, the Large Professor and Q-Tip, this 10 track album is the musical journey of a teenager growing up in the Queensbridge projects. Truly a most own for any hip-hop fan.

Wiki Quote: “Since its initial reception, the album has been recognized by writers and music critics as a landmark album in East Coast hip hop. It contributed to the regional scene's artistic renaissance in New York, while marking an influential, stylistic change in hip hop at the time. Its influence on subsequent hip hop artists has been attributed to the album's production and Nas's rapping. Several writers have cited Illmatic as one of the quintessential hip hop recordings and one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. It has been included in numerous best album lists by critics and publications.”

Stand Out Tracks:

*Ain’t Hard to Tell:

 
Final Rankings – Best Hip-Hop Album

20 points - Illmatic

19 points - Ready to Die

18 points - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

17 points - The Chronic

16 points - Low End Theory

15 points - Paid in Full

14 points - Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers)

13 points - Straight Outta Compton

12 points - Stankonia

11 points - Marshall Mathers LP

10 points - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx

9 points - All Eyez On Me

8 points - Doggystyle

 
:getitdonetogetitdone:

FFA threads cont'd

17 -- Friendly Camping Trip

18 -- Coworker Craps Himself

19 -- Woke up in the middle of the night

20 -- Russian Bride Draft

 
Best FFA Threads

20 -- Russian Bride Draft

19 -- Woke up in the middle of the night

18 -- Coworker Craps Himself

17 -- Friendly Camping Trip

16 -- FF Excuse Shirts

15 -- CoilegeHumor's America's Hottest College Girl '09

14 -- GM and Shuke Eat Off

13 -- If You Love Someone...

12 -- Was anyone here ever a male cheerleader?

11 -- Guy that paid for league in coupons

10 -- Extra wipedown in the shower

9 -- Bad Song Torture Island Draft

8 -- FFA Constitutional Convention

Sorry I couldn't invest more time...

 
Rankings (after 21 categories)

323 wbaaoz

310 Mister CIA

309 timschochet

305 rikishiboy

304 BobbyLayne

301 Usual21

299 DougB

292 Mrs. Rannous

291 jwb

287 Tremendous Upside

271 tish156

267 DC Thunder

256 AcerFC

 
First off, this was incredibly hard. These are a whole bunch of great books. The good news is that I've actually read 10 of the 13. So there's that. This is a blend of my personal thoughts and some lists I found.

8 pts - The Outsiders. It's pretty sweet that this book gets banned a lot, but in my mind it's more of a movie than a book.

9 pts - A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich. No doubt an important book and a meaningful book and I'm sure it's powerful if you read it, but I've never heard of it.

10 pts - A Christmas Carol. If this was a pop culture-y draft or most well known draft or anything like that this would have scored better. Still I think it was a pretty inspired pick.

11 pts - The Old Man and the Sea. I should like this more than I do because I love sharks and things like sharks. I just don't. It just seemed kind of fakey.

12 pts - Fahrenheit 451. It is to my everlasting shame I have not read this yet.

13 pts - Charlotte's Web. After this one it gets really tough. Perhaps Charlotte should be behind Old Man and Fahrenheit, but everyone has read it and that should count for something. And lest you think I'm some wacko there was a list I found, a reputable list, that only had three of these books included in it's greatest 100 books of all-time. Charlotte's Web was one of them.

Short recess while I figure out how the hell to rank these next seven, all of which I love.

Short Novel

1. The Great Gatsb

2. Slaughterhouse Five

3. Animal Farm

4. Of Mice and Men

6. The Catcher In the Rye

7. The Stranger

12. Metamorphosis

 
14 pts - Metamorphosis. I think these next three are an interchangeable tier, then a clear next tier of one title, and then another three. Metamorphosis gets the last spot just because I didn't love it as much as the next two. It's very well written, but if it wasn't it easily could have been a Dean Koontz book.

15 pts - Of Mice and Men. I prefer Cannery Row when we're talking short Steinbeck novels, but that doesn't mean this is a masterpiece. I read this, then Cannery Row, then Grapes of Wrath, and plan to continue to destroy all Steinbeck whenever I can. This dude can write.

16 pts - The Stranger. I think a lot of people hate this. I happen to love it. I'm surprised we don't hear more about this being an antisocial primer the way people talk about (or talked about Catcher in the Rye).

17 pts - Animal Farm. What's not to like? Well written with memorable characters and lessons and stories and phrases that are still around. It's an awesome story if you read it just as a pure story and an awesome allegory if you are the kind of person who is always looking for deeper meanings. Good stuff.

18 pts - The Great Gatsby. How isn't this #1? The other two are my two favorite books of any length ever, and both have enough critical cred to justify putting them up here.

19 pts - Slaughterhouse Five. Second greatest book ever. Kurt Vonnegut rocked my world and took me from a guy who read crap to a guy who reads classic lit and also plenty of crap.

20 pts - Catcher in the Rye. Simply awesome. This book killed me. If you disagree you're a big crumby phony.

 
Nicely done on recent rankings. I know next to nothing about hip-hop or rap or whatever that was but learned something from the judging.

I hope to post poems this weekend.

 
20 - Catcher in the Rye

19 - Slaughterhouse 5

18 - Great Gatsby

17 - Animal Farm

16 - The Stranger

15 - Of Mice and Men

14 - Metamorphosis

13 - Charlotte's Web

12 - Fahrenheit 451

11 - Old Man and the Sea

10 - Christmas Carol

9 - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich

8 - The Outsiders

 
Thank you for all the recent rankings. All well-thought out.

Especially enjoyed the rap links, which, like Krista, is a genre I know little about.

 
Rankings (after 22 categories)

343 wbaaoz

326 timschochet

320 Mister CIA

320 Usual21

318 rikishiboy

315 BobbyLayne

315 DougB

306 jwb

304 Mrs. Rannous

301 Tremendous Upside

279 tish156

276 DC Thunder

274 AcerFC

 
Awww. Great book. Generally considered a world classic (not an American author). But yeah the Roots album was named after it.

 
'Frostillicus said:
20 - Catcher in the Rye19 - Slaughterhouse 518 - Great Gatsby17 - Animal Farm16 - The Stranger15 - Of Mice and Men14 - Metamorphosis13 - Charlotte's Web12 - Fahrenheit 45111 - Old Man and the Sea10 - Christmas Carol9 - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich8 - The Outsiders
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I'm not reading this thread, but what's this category? Most overrated novels assigned by 11th grade English teachers?
 
'-fish- said:
'Frostillicus said:
20 - Catcher in the Rye19 - Slaughterhouse 518 - Great Gatsby17 - Animal Farm16 - The Stranger15 - Of Mice and Men14 - Metamorphosis13 - Charlotte's Web12 - Fahrenheit 45111 - Old Man and the Sea10 - Christmas Carol9 - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich8 - The Outsiders
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I'm not reading this thread, but what's this category? Most overrated novels assigned by 11th grade English teachers?
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I was assigned Charlotte's Web in 2nd grade.
 
'timschochet said:
'-fish- said:
'Frostillicus said:
20 - Catcher in the Rye19 - Slaughterhouse 518 - Great Gatsby17 - Animal Farm16 - The Stranger15 - Of Mice and Men14 - Metamorphosis13 - Charlotte's Web12 - Fahrenheit 45111 - Old Man and the Sea10 - Christmas Carol9 - One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich8 - The Outsiders
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I'm not reading this thread, but what's this category? Most overrated novels assigned by 11th grade English teachers?
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I was assigned Charlotte's Web in 2nd grade.
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You probably bored the crap out of your teacher with a 50 page plagiarized book report, too.
 
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