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[tish156]

i had a pb&j sandwhich the other day for lunch in a brown bag naturally

 

[AcerFC]

i had a pb&j sandwhich the other day for lunch in a brown bag naturally

You ate in a brown bag?

 

[jwb]

It's Reuben. And since you can spell the name, it automatically should get 5 more points.

And the "brown bag factor" was a total wildcard that wasn't in any criteria, I don't believe...Totally bogus rankngs...

No, it was there from the very beginning. You just didn't read it.Hey, feel lucky I didn't do this by personal taste / deliciousness alone. Horrible sandwich, however you spell it (regardless of dressing type). But that's just my opinion.

 

[jwb]

Rueben would have finished dead last (hate russian dressing).

I find that most places put thousand island dressing on reubens instead of russian. I usually (but not always) ask to leave the dressing off, and substitute it with spicey mustard.

Either dressing is horrible. Mustard totally changes the sandwich, though (it's not really a Reuben anymore.) That sounds pretty good, though.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Rueben would have finished dead last (hate russian dressing).

I find that most places put thousand island dressing on reubens instead of russian. I usually (but not always) ask to leave the dressing off, and substitute it with spicey mustard.

Either dressing is horrible. Mustard totally changes the sandwich, though (it's not really a Reuben anymore.) That sounds pretty good, though.

I'm glad I didn't judge this. I hate Russian dressing, kraut, corned beef, and Swiss cheese. And a Reuben is often served on pumpernickel rye. I loathe pumpernickel. I bet you can figure out how much I like this sandwich.

 

[krista4]

I'm really struggling with the celebrity chef rankings. At some point soon I'm just going to stop moving everyone around and post something. :(

 

[krista4]

OK, I'm just going to be done with it. First of all, excellent job on the selections. I tried to think of notables that were left out, but I really couldn't come up with anyone who would crack the top ten of these rankings. Was worried for a while when Jacques Pepin had been overlooked, but luckily a last-minute switch meant I don't have to complain about that.

Second, thank you for not choosing Paula Deen or Rachael Ray.

Here we go.



8 pts. - Nigella Lawson – Someone has to come in last, and in this case it’s the person who’s not actually a chef or cook. She’s a journalist who after many years of writing decided to host a cooking show. Scores lower on the celebrity scale than most on this list, and not being a chef places her in last place. She sure is pretty, though!

 

[krista4]

9 pts. - Anthony Bourdain – The only person on the list that I might leave OH for, it crushes me to put Tony so far down in the rankings. My favorite on the list, but he hasn’t been associated with a kitchen or restaurant in any meaningful way in a long time. He is known more for his excellent books (run out and read them immediately if you haven’t) showing the real inside scoop of being in a kitchen, and of course for his travel shows. For quite a while now he’s been more of an eater and writer than a chef, and even when he was a chef, he was not particularly notable for anything. Please don’t hate me, Tony. I still TiVo all your shows.

 

[krista4]

10 pts. - Jamie Oliver – There was some discussion when he was selected as some people don’t like him. I’m a big fan of what he does. Unfortunately, though he is high on a celebrity scale in particular in the UK, in the US he’s still quite a bit less known. More importantly, while I love his dedication to healthy eating, I don’t believe he’s a great of a chef as most of the others on this list. Still he scores some points for his contributions to cuisine in the healthy eating arena.

 

[krista4]

11 pts. - James Beard – The most difficult to rank; a last-minute rethinking put him down a couple of notches. At this point more known for the Beard awards, which are the highest culinary distinction in the US but which were established after his death, than for his actual works. Still, he was the first chef with a broadcast TV show, and he was a key figure in adapting French cooking to a style appealing to upper-class Americans. As an award, he’s certainly a celebrity; in terms of his own influence, his celebrity has dimmed a great deal.

 

[krista4]

12 pts. - Bobby Flay – I like Bobby Flay a lot. There, I said it. Seems like a great guy. He has a lot of restaurants that are generally well-received but not anything extraordinary. But he’s parlayed that into being probably the most ubiquitous chef on TV the last several years. I think he’s a great chef; just has not chosen to use that in terms of developing great restaurants or furthering any meaningful contributions to cuisine itself.

 

[krista4]

13 pts. - Wolfgang Puck – Well, he’s certainly prolific. In addition to being able to eat at “his” restaurants in major airports and malls across the nation (world?), you can pick up “his” pizzas at your local Wal-Mart. Did you know his frozen pizzas are manufactured at the same place where Connie’s pizzas are made, in Schaumburg, Illinois? Yet you’ll pay how much for a Wolfgang Puck pizza? Anyway, he’s certainly a celebrity, and as a James Beard award-winner for Spago, I can’t say that he never had cooking chops, though I don’t know of anything lasting he has contributed to cuisine. Seems like a good guy, but at this point more celebrity than substance by far. I doubt he’s really been in a kitchen in years.

 

[krista4]

14 pts. - Auguste Escoffier – Responsible for much of the evolution of traditional French cookery into simpler, more modern fare, his Le Guide Culinaire (from the turn of the 20th century) is still used by chefs today. Suffers greatly in these rankings because of the word “celebrity”. Outside of chefs, foodies and frogs, not a household name at all, likely in part due to having lived prior to the advent of TV.

 

[krista4]

15 pts.- Tom Colicchio – I’m going to posit that he is, other than Pepin, the best living chef among those chosen in the draft. You don’t win five Beard awards for nothing. He’s continued to maintain the highest level of craft at his restaurants (see what I did there?) while developing a serious TV profile. I like that he educates on Top Chef and also hasn’t let the show sell out to going for the most popular contestants. Great balance of real cooking skills and contribution to cuisine as a whole, while becoming a major celebrity as well.

 

[krista4]

16 pts. - Mario Batali – Now this is a chef’s chef. Seems like kind of a jerk (see, e.g., ripped off his own employees) and more than a bit crazy, but with the kind of talent that most could only dream of. What’s amazing to me about Batali is that he can be expert is so many different kinds of cuisine. Basically anything he does is top-flight. Multiple Beard awards and TV shows, books, etc. too numerous to count, but somehow his restaurants continue to be among the best in the world. Read the book “Heat” for a great look into his kitchen—really interesting reading for cooks and non-cooks alike. Dinged slightly on celebrity status as it has started to dim due to having broken ties (it seems) with the Food Network.

 

[krista4]

17 pts. - Gordon Ramsay – Suffers a bit, like Puck, from the fact he’s likely not been involved in his restaurants for a long time. Also, what does being named best restaurant in the UK (which it no longer is) mean? The mushy peas are the right level of mushiness? The haggis has reached the correct level of disgustingness? Oh, I kid, I kid. Not sure he contributed a great deal to cuisine as a whole, but Ramsay was actually quite a notable chef for a while, and the consistency with which his restaurants have been rated highly distinguishes him from Puck, who really only has Spago in terms of quality places. And right now might be the most well-known chef in the world due to his ever-increasing number of TV shows.

 

[krista4]

18 pts. - Jacques Pepin – When I said “celebrity chef” to OH, a real-life chef, the first words out of his mouth were “Jacques Pepin”. I’d argue that he is more revered by actual working chefs than anyone else on this list. I constantly find his books—many of which have been best sellers—all over my house. He was personal chef to several French heads of state, including Charles de Gaulle, and was awarded the French Legion of Honor. Also won an Emmy with Julia Child and had several successful TV shows. Might suffer a little in name recognition against some of the more modern folks, but like Child in his time he was a huge celebrity and his works remain top choices of chefs today.

 

[krista4]

19 pts. - Emeril Lagasse – A real chef, a real celebrity. Still running great restaurants while becoming arguably the most well-known of the modern celebrity chefs. While his media empire is astounding, he hasn’t sacrificed quality in his Beard award winning restaurants. His catch-phrases are legendary, and he single-handedly introduced the US to a type a cuisine much less well-known before his arrival on the scene.

 

[krista4]

20 pts. – Julia Child - There’s not much I can say here. A perfect blend of actual skill, contribution to cookery, and celebrity. She revolutionized cooking in the US by introducing French cooking to the masses, and was an absolute rock star in terms of celebrity. Her kitchen is in the Smithsonian, and she has received the French Legion of Honor and the US Presidential Medal of Freedom. Most importantly, no one else on this list had Dan Ackroyd play them in an SNL sketch. So there.

 

[krista4]

20 pts. – Julia Child

19 pts. - Emeril Lagasse

18 pts. - Jacques Pepin

17 pts. - Gordon Ramsay

16 pts. - Mario Batali

15 pts.- Tom Colicchio

14 pts. - Auguste Escoffier

13 pts. - Wolfgang Puck

12 pts. - Bobby Flay

11 pts. - James Beard

10 pts. - Jamie Oliver

9 pts. - Anthony Bourdain

8 pts. - Nigella Lawson

 

[timschochet]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.

Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

 

[timschochet]

Rankings (after 13 categories)

203 wbaaoz

198 rikishiboy

198 timschochet

192 Mister CIA

190 Tremendous Upside

189 BobbyLayne

186 jwb

184 Usual21

177 DougB

167 Mrs. Rannous

167 tish156

159 DC Thunder

149 AcerFC

 

[krista4]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

 

[timschochet]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

Interesting. I didn't know that.

 

[jwb]

OK, I'm just going to be done with it. First of all, excellent job on the selections. I tried to think of notables that were left out, but I really couldn't come up with anyone who would crack the top ten of these rankings. Was worried for a while when Jacques Pepin had been overlooked, but luckily a last-minute switch meant I don't have to complain about that.

Second, thank you for not choosing Paula Deen or Rachael Ray.

Here we go.



8 pts. - Nigella Lawson – Someone has to come in last, and in this case it’s the person who’s not actually a chef or cook. She’s a journalist who after many years of writing decided to host a cooking show. Scores lower on the celebrity scale than most on this list, and not being a chef places her in last place. She sure is pretty, though!

At the point where I picked her, that was about all I had to go on

 

[krista4]

OK, I'm just going to be done with it. First of all, excellent job on the selections. I tried to think of notables that were left out, but I really couldn't come up with anyone who would crack the top ten of these rankings. Was worried for a while when Jacques Pepin had been overlooked, but luckily a last-minute switch meant I don't have to complain about that.

Second, thank you for not choosing Paula Deen or Rachael Ray.

Here we go.



8 pts. - Nigella Lawson – Someone has to come in last, and in this case it’s the person who’s not actually a chef or cook. She’s a journalist who after many years of writing decided to host a cooking show. Scores lower on the celebrity scale than most on this list, and not being a chef places her in last place. She sure is pretty, though!

At the point where I picked her, that was about all I had to go on

I didn't know who picked whom other than remembering tim took Pepin late. Like I said, the picks were good so if you selected her late you didn't have much chance to snagging anyone that would have ranked higher.

 

[simey]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

You are right that Ray never had any culinary school training. Ray learned to cook from her mom, dad, and grandfather. Her family owned restaurants while Ray was growing up. Her mom and grandfather are sicilian italians, and her dad is part french and grew up in Louisiana. She learned to cook italian food from her mom and grandfather (who lived with her family), and her dad taught her to cook cajun. Her grandfather had diabetes so she also learned healthy ways to cook as well. Many of the dishes she makes are influenced by what she learned from her family. I watch her show sometimes, and the stuff she makes looks good.

 

[Brady Marino]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

You are right that Ray never had any culinary school training. Ray learned to cook from her mom, dad, and grandfather. Her family owned restaurants while Ray was growing up. Her mom and grandfather are sicilian italians, and her dad is part french and grew up in Louisiana. She learned to cook italian food from her mom and grandfather (who lived with her family), and her dad taught her to cook cajun. Her grandfather had diabetes so she also learned healthy ways to cook as well. Many of the dishes she makes are influenced by what she learned from her family. I watch her show sometimes, and the stuff she makes looks good.

Interesting point. There has to be some credit for real life experience.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

You are right that Ray never had any culinary school training. Ray learned to cook from her mom, dad, and grandfather. Her family owned restaurants while Ray was growing up. Her mom and grandfather are sicilian italians, and her dad is part french and grew up in Louisiana. She learned to cook italian food from her mom and grandfather (who lived with her family), and her dad taught her to cook cajun. Her grandfather had diabetes so she also learned healthy ways to cook as well. Many of the dishes she makes are influenced by what she learned from her family. I watch her show sometimes, and the stuff she makes looks good.

Interesting point. There has to be some credit for real life experience.

Guy Fieri never had professional culinary training either. Like Rachael growing up in family that owned restaurants, Guy worked in them, and eventually would own some. You can be a great chef with no formal training. There is a woman that won The Next Food Network Star about three years ago that had no culinary training, and she could cook her ### off. Before winning the show she was a stay at home mom. I like Rachael Ray. She's a trip.

 

[meanjoegreen]

i had a pb&j sandwhich the other day for lunch in a brown bag naturally

You ate in a brown bag?

lol

 

[simey]

Seems like a pretty good job, Krista. I wish I knew more about this category to evaluate your judging more, but the truth is, with the exception of some of Ramsay's stuff, I rarely watch these shows.Question: what's the problem with Rachael Ray? I've never ever watched her, so I have no idea if she's rude or annoying or what. But she's certainly prolific.

I wasn't judging on personality. If I had, Ramsay would be low and Bourdain and Flay would be high. Ray simply isn't a chef; she's a TV personality. As far as I know, she has no culinary training and has never cooked in a restaurant.

You are right that Ray never had any culinary school training. Ray learned to cook from her mom, dad, and grandfather. Her family owned restaurants while Ray was growing up. Her mom and grandfather are sicilian italians, and her dad is part french and grew up in Louisiana. She learned to cook italian food from her mom and grandfather (who lived with her family), and her dad taught her to cook cajun. Her grandfather had diabetes so she also learned healthy ways to cook as well. Many of the dishes she makes are influenced by what she learned from her family. I watch her show sometimes, and the stuff she makes looks good.

Interesting point. There has to be some credit for real life experience.

Guy Fieri never had professional culinary training either. Like Rachael growing up in family that owned restaurants, Guy worked in them, and eventually would own some. You can be a great chef with no formal training. There is a woman that won The Next Food Network Star about three years ago that had no culinary training, and she could cook her ### off. Before winning the show she was a stay at home mom. I like Rachael Ray. She's a trip.

krista was right though in saying Rachael Ray isn't a chef, and Ray has said many times herself that she isn't a chef. Ray says she is good at creating fun and affordable meals for families. She became popular doing her 30 minute meals. She definitely knows how to cook, but technically she isn't a chef.

 

[Usual21]

Hey everyone,

sorry for being MIA for the last few weeks. Had some personal stuff I had to take care of.

 

[rikishiboy]

Just glad your okayy. Tim got ya a 20 point sandwhich to enjoy.

 

[Usual21]

Ham and cheese got a 20? Thanks Tim!

 

[timschochet]

Ham and cheese got a 20? Thanks Tim!

Don't give me too much credit. I also got you the 8 pointer for disgusting food.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Ham and cheese got a 20? Thanks Tim!

Don't give me too much credit. I also got you the 8 pointer for disgusting food.

You could have gone with jellied eels. That stuff is just nasty. I like smoked eel, but jellied? Yeuch.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Great Actor/Bad Movie should be up today.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Huh. I totally agree with the sandwich rankings...if you completely reversed them. I guess on the basis of the criteria, the rankings make sense, though. Deliciousness had absolutely no part in this. :(

It had to be something you'd put in a - and it had to be something jwb liked and/or thought was important. It's good to be the king.

Honestly, how could anyone really objectively rank sandwhiches?

 

[jwb]

Huh. I totally agree with the sandwich rankings...if you completely reversed them. I guess on the basis of the criteria, the rankings make sense, though. Deliciousness had absolutely no part in this. :(

It had to be something you'd put in a - and it had to be something jwb liked and/or thought was important. It's good to be the king.

Honestly, how could anyone really objectively rank sandwhiches?

well, I tried to - didn't go over well.

 

[Keerock]

Rankings for Best Junk Food:

20 - Doritos

The king of all junk foods, IMO. Most any flavor, but the original Nacho Cheese is the best. I can polish off a bag in one sitting, no problem.

19 - Oreos

Close to Doritos, but on the sweet side. No doubt a universal favorite. The double stuffs are even pretty darn good, albeit a bit too sweet for my tastes. Solid pick.

18 - Girl Scouts thin mints

The sleeper of the draft. Great frozen or not. A sleeve of these won't last long in my presence.

17 - Cheetohs

Another solid, fingers full of cheetle classic. I'm a big fan of the original... not so much the "puffs" version. The recent commercials bother me, but I won't let that affect the strong showing for this great snack.

16 - Snickers

I knew candy bars would be tough to place in this category... certainly not a healthy alternative, but can they be considered junk food? Sure... why not. Snickers is the king of candy bars and deserves this hefty rank.

15 - Pop Tarts

Another sneaky pick that some may cry foul on. Marketed as a breakfast food, but at least personally, I rarely eat them for breakfast. A great fix for a sweet tooth, and packaging them in twos is a brilliant move as it practically forces gluttony. Two is most times just not enough, so you have to have two more, right? Good toasted or not (I prefer not)

14 - Twinkies

Popular snack cake... brought back into fame by "Zombiland". Tasty treat, although I can't remember the last time I had one.

13 - Pringles

A nice twist to the traditional potato chip. Can be addicting.

12 - Cracker Jack

A staple at baseball games. Not much beyond that. Has lost popularity over the years, I assume primarily due to the product not being as good (less coating on the popcorn, fewer peanuts).

11 - Dunkin Donuts

Borderline qualification as a junk food... kindof a hybrid junk/fast food. Still, some quality varieties.

10 - Ben and Jerry's Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Ice Cream

Loves me some good ice cream. This would have done much better in an ice cream flavor draft, but there are just too many brands/flavors of ice cream to make an impact in this category.

09 - Orville Redenbacher popcorn

Popcorn is a great junk food for sure. This pick suffers from there being no real "brand name" dominance for popcorn.

08 - Southern Recipe Pork Rinds

I recognize the "junk food" appeal of pork rinds, but I have never been a fan. In addition, this is another victim of having no brand name dominance.

 

[Keerock]

Rankings for Spinoff Television Show category:

20 - The Simpsons

I know there is some controversy over whether or not this is a spinoff, but IMO it qualifies 100%. Still going strong after a 23 year run.

19 - Happy Days

One of the all time great shows. Had an 11 season run and spun off a few other shows of it's own.

18 - Frasier

Not personally a huge fan of the show, but it was widely loved for 11 years.

17 - The Muppet Show

Didn't do as well as Sesame Street would have, but still a solid pick. One of the shows that I watched regularly growing up. Shorter run than most at 5 years.

16 - The Jeffersons

Very popular show with many memorable characters. Not a show I watched regularly, but still iconic.

15 - Laverne & Shirley

I hated this show with a passion, but recognize it's popularity and 7 year run.

14 - The Colbert Report

Underrated, possibly due to the fact that it's a cable show. Very funny/entertaining, IMO.

13 - Law and Order SVU

Never really got into any of these L&O series, but this one has had a nice 13 year run.

12 - Lou Grant

Probably hurt in this category due to it's age. I do remember watching it, as it was one of my Mom's favorites.

11 - The Andy Griffith Show

Another oldie. Not a lot of reruns to provide judging completeness...

10 - The Honeymooners

Very popular, but only aired for 1 season.

09 - A Different World

Personal opinion - unfunny to the 10th degree. Only reason it finished above the one below is because they don't really qualify in this category.

08 - Star Trek: The Next Generation

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

 

[Keerock]

Rankings for TV Half Hour Comedy:

20 - Seinfeld

19 - Friends

18 - King of Queens

17 - Modern Family

16 - The Daily Show with John Stewart

15 - That 70s Show

14 - Curb Your Enthusiasm

13 - Home Improvement

12 - 30 Rock

11 - Arrested Development

10 - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

09 - Chappelle Show

08 - The Office (UK)

Will provide commentary later.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

09 - Law and Order SVU

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

08 - Star Trek: The Next Generation

See above.

The USS Enterprise?

 

[Keerock]

09 - Law and Order SVU

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

08 - Star Trek: The Next Generation

See above.

The USS Enterprise?

Heh... that's like saying Seinfeld was a spinoff of NYPD Blue because they both took place in NYC.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

09 - Law and Order SVU

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

08 - Star Trek: The Next Generation

See above.

The USS Enterprise?

Heh... that's like saying Seinfeld was a spinoff of NYPD Blue because they both took place in NYC.

Everyone knows it was Friends that spun off of NYPD Blue. ETA: Ross was on both shows (well the actor at least ).

 

[simey]

09 - Law and Order SVU

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

It does qualify under those guidelines. Captain Donald Cragen (played by Dann Florek) was the original captain on Law and Order. He played that role from 1990 to 1993. He got fired after season three, because NBC wanted more female cast members. He then reappeared as the same character in a Law and Order TV Movie in 1998. In 1999, he reprised his role as Captain Donald "Don" Cragen during the 1999 debut of Law and Order SVU. He has been a regular on SVU since.

 

[Keerock]

09 - Law and Order SVU

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

It does qualify under those guidelines. Captain Donald Cragen (played by Dann Florek) was the original captain on Law and Order. He played that role from 1990 to 1993. He got fired after season three, because NBC wanted more female cast members. He then reappeared as the same character in a Law and Order TV Movie in 1998. In 1999, he reprised his role as Captain Donald "Don" Cragen during the 1999 debut of Law and Order SVU. He has been a regular on SVU since.

My bad. I'll update the rankings.

 

[tish156]

Rankings for Spinoff Television Show category:

20 - The Simpsons

I know there is some controversy over whether or not this is a spinoff, but IMO it qualifies 100%. Still going strong after a 23 year run.

19 - Happy Days

One of the all time great shows. Had an 11 season run and spun off a few other shows of it's own.

18 - Frasier

Not personally a huge fan of the show, but it was widely loved for 11 years.

17 - The Muppet Show

Didn't do as well as Sesame Street would have, but still a solid pick. One of the shows that I watched regularly growing up. Shorter run than most at 5 years.

16 - The Jeffersons

Very popular show with many memorable characters. Not a show I watched regularly, but still iconic.

15 - Laverne & Shirley

I hated this show with a passion, but recognize it's popularity and 7 year run.

14 - The Colbert Report

Underrated, possibly due to the fact that it's a cable show. Very funny/entertaining, IMO.

13 - Law and Order SVU

Never really got into any of these L&O series, but this one has had a nice 13 year run.

12 - Lou Grant

Probably hurt in this category due to it's age. I do remember watching it, as it was one of my Mom's favorites.

11 - The Andy Griffith Show

Another oldie. Not a lot of reruns to provide judging completeness...

10 - The Honeymooners

Very popular, but only aired for 1 season.

09 - A Different World

Personal opinion - unfunny to the 10th degree. Only reason it finished above the one below is because they don't really qualify in this category.

08 - Star Trek: The Next Generation

Does not truly qualify under the guidelines I set... specifically having a character(s) in the spinoff that was in the original.

i didnt think that this category had to do with whether it was funny or not. i never expected a different world to get too high but i think in terms of it being a true spin off, it shouldve gone higher in the rankings IMO

 

[Keerock]

09 - A Different World

Personal opinion - unfunny to the 10th degree. Only reason it finished above the one below is because they don't really qualify in this category.

i didnt think that this category had to do with whether it was funny or not. i never expected a different world to get too high but i think in terms of it being a true spin off, it shouldve gone higher in the rankings IMO

It was billed as a comedy. I expect a comedy to be funny.

 

[tish156]

09 - A Different World

Personal opinion - unfunny to the 10th degree. Only reason it finished above the one below is because they don't really qualify in this category.

i didnt think that this category had to do with whether it was funny or not. i never expected a different world to get too high but i think in terms of it being a true spin off, it shouldve gone higher in the rankings IMO

It was billed as a comedy. I expect a comedy to be funny.

well i disagree but its nbd you did a good job on the rankings ?