Time for a Commissioners Forum? (1 Viewer)

[Pickle Rody]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum. I have always felt that a commissioner will get more replies to their questions if these remained in the Shark Pool. But alas, these are getting moved over to the AC where there is very little traffic. Unless I am specifically looking for trade/waiver help or WDIS answers I rarely (practically never) head over to that forum.

Being a long-time commissioner I may have valuable insight that could help others who are asking for help. I may at some point want to hear from other commissioners. I feel I will get very little response if my thread gets moved to the AC abyss.

I think it is time for FBG to establish a Commissioners Forum. What say you? I would appreciate any and all comments. Thank you.

Rody

ETA: I mistakenly posted this poll in the AC first---because a thread I was reading (a commissioners question) that started in the SP got moved while I was reading it and when I decided to post this poll I didn't realize I was in the AC. The poll over there can be deleted if this is allowed to remain here in the SP.

 

[jimmyd9989]

I agree as I am a commissioner and have had tons of questions (specifically about myfantasyleague.com) that I'm sure a forum would help.

 

[road warrior]

You've got my vote. If it will help, I see no reason not to.

It would be nice of those who are voting 'no' to explain their reasoning?

 

[Pickle Rody]

One of my arguments for having such a forum is this:

FBG provides an IDP Forum for those of you that participate in those types of leagues. There are just over 10,000 threads in that forum. Not all leagues are IDP, although they are becoming more prominent lately. Still, my guess would be that probably fewer than half of all leagues use IDP. Meanwhile, ALL LEAGUES have a Commissioner. I don't know of a single league that does not have a Commissioner.

One other thing....FBG provides a Baseball Forum....a freakin' baseball forum.....on a Fantasy Football website. I don't think it's a stretch to ask for a Commissioners Forum to help deal with the issues that arise for Fantasy Football Commissioners. Especially on a fantasy football website.

 

[Topes]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

Agreed.I voted NO.They belong in the Shark Pool.Perhaps half of us are commissioners in one league or another.It is instructive to all to read these threads.They belong in the Shark Pool. They are about fantasy football. Fantasy football is more than just player projections.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Another argument:Quoted from the Forum homepage....

The Shark Pool (NFL Talk)Important Note about the Shark Pool:Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

This doesn't mention Commissioner threads.

The Assistant CoachThis is the forum to look for answers to all of your who to start, trade advice, and rate my team questions.

This doesn't mention Commissioner threads either.If we had a Commissioners Forum, it would be crystal clear where the Commissioner threads should be posted.

 

[Old Redskin]

Even though I recently posted a very similar question (http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=562602&hl=), I voted no because I think we'd be better served by having a "pinned" topic in the Shark Pool. Like others, I believe that the Commissioner's Forum wouldn't get the traffic or response rate.

Either way, I believe this would be a great improvement/service to the commissioner community!

 

[Pickle Rody]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

Agreed.I voted NO.They belong in the Shark Pool.Perhaps half of us are commissioners in one league or another.It is instructive to all to read these threads.They belong in the Shark Pool. They are about fantasy football. Fantasy football is more than just player projections.

I have no problem with them remaining in the SP, if in fact they will remain there. It just seems that you can't count on a commissioner thread remaining there. Until I here from Joe or David stating that all commissioner threads belong there, I don't see it happening. they don't belong in the AC forum though, that is clear.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Even though I recently posted a very similar question (http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=562602&hl=), I voted no because I think we'd be better served by having a "pinned" topic in the Shark Pool. Like others, I believe that the Commissioner's Forum wouldn't get the traffic or response rate.

Either way, I believe this would be a great improvement/service to the commissioner community!

Hell, I'd be happy with a pinned thread to start out with. Then, when traffic just gets too heavy, they can create a specific forum for Commissioners. It might be a way to gauge the need for that type of forum.eta: Sorry OR, I didn't see your question earlier, so I apologize if I created a "honda" here.

 

[Lehigh98]

I think we need a forum for requests for forums.

 

[Rebirtha]

A forum full of "should this trade be vetoed?" threads. Sounds like a place I'd stay away from.

 

[Pickle Rody]

A forum full of "should this trade be vetoed?" threads. Sounds like a place I'd stay away from.

Well, this is fine. At least you would know what to expect in there and could choose rather quickly to dismiss the forum. Just like I do with the AC Forum and Baseball Forum.

 

[Road Warriors]

Voted yes, as I think having a dedicated space for Commissioner's questions is worthy. I'd prefer a pinned topic in the SP, as I'm afraid the traffic in a new forum would be so light as to be relatively useless.

Most Commish threads here get lots of traffic & opinions, with lots of good info that I've incorporated over the years.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Voted yes, as I think having a dedicated space for Commissioner's questions is worthy. I'd prefer a pinned topic in the SP, as I'm afraid the traffic in a new forum would be so light as to be relatively useless.

Most Commish threads here get lots of traffic & opinions, with lots of good info that I've incorporated over the years.

Until they get moved.

 

[Old Redskin]

Even though I recently posted a very similar question (http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=562602&hl=), I voted no because I think we'd be better served by having a "pinned" topic in the Shark Pool. Like others, I believe that the Commissioner's Forum wouldn't get the traffic or response rate.

Either way, I believe this would be a great improvement/service to the commissioner community!

Hell, I'd be happy with a pinned thread to start out with. Then, when traffic just gets too heavy, they can create a specific forum for Commissioners. It might be a way to gauge the need for that type of forum.eta: Sorry OR, I didn't see your question earlier, so I apologize if I created a "honda" here.

No worries, if enough of us demonstrate the need, perhaps the moderators will take the next step for us!

 

[Mello]

Personally like seeing the occasional commish thread here. Gives me an idea of the mistakes other leagues make. If I'm not interested in a thread, I just won't read it.

 

[CalBear]

I don't think they belong in Assistant Coach, certainly. But I'd rather see them in the Shark Pool. Maybe with a FAQ sheet to point to with the standard responses to standard questions ("I'd never play in a league that allows voting on trades," etc.)

 

[sartre]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

Agreed.I voted NO.They belong in the Shark Pool.Perhaps half of us are commissioners in one league or another.It is instructive to all to read these threads.They belong in the Shark Pool. They are about fantasy football. Fantasy football is more than just player projections.

A separate Commissioner's forum would probably not get much more traffic than the AC forum.I didn't realize all commissioner threads were being moved, that is a shame.

 

[footballnerd]

I voted no, commissioner threads belong in the SP

The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.

the bolded words alone qualify these threads to be in the SP.I think FBG should introduce tags/categories to the site, I've seen other types of message boards where OPs can tag their thread under certain categories, then it would be easier to search for specific topics. Examples WR threads, RB threads, or Commissioner threads.

See towards the bottom of this forum as an example.

 

[Road Warriors]

Voted yes, as I think having a dedicated space for Commissioner's questions is worthy. I'd prefer a pinned topic in the SP, as I'm afraid the traffic in a new forum would be so light as to be relatively useless.

Most Commish threads here get lots of traffic & opinions, with lots of good info that I've incorporated over the years.

Until they get moved.

Exactly, which is why I'd prefer they stay in the Shark pool rather than a new forum.

 

[AB in DC]

Great idea...much different audience should get a different forum.

 

[sartre]

A forum full of "should this trade be vetoed?" threads. Sounds like a place I'd stay away from.

I agree with moving "Should this trade be vetoed?" threads. I think all other commissioner-related issues should be allowed to stay in the SP though.

 

[Joe Bryant]

A forum full of "should this trade be vetoed?" threads. Sounds like a place I'd stay away from.

I agree with moving "Should this trade be vetoed?" threads. I think all other commissioner-related issues should be allowed to stay in the SP though.

Good discussion on this. I'm willing to listen here.

I think the above post hits a good point.

For me the dividing line is threads that relate to the majority of the board vs threads that are specific to one league.

I think the "would you veto this trade?" posts are exactly like the "who should I start?" posts. It's one guy asking for help in his specific league. It's usually the guy that had a trade vetoed and is looking for backup to go to his commish with. That's not what we're trying to do with the Shark Pool.

But there are threads dealing with commish stuff that do relate to the majority of the board. Thoughts on serpentine styles for drafts. Best practices for distributing waiver wire players. How to make the league more fun. Etc. All of those are great Shark Pool topics as they relate to the majority of the board.

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.

J

 

[Joe Bryant]

I voted no, commissioner threads belong in the SP

The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.

the bolded words alone qualify these threads to be in the SP.I think FBG should introduce tags/categories to the site, I've seen other types of message boards where OPs can tag their thread under certain categories, then it would be easier to search for specific topics. Examples WR threads, RB threads, or Commissioner threads.

See towards the bottom of this forum as an example.

Thanks. I love that feature. Let me check into how they're doing that and see what software they're using. That seems like a really cool feature for a board.

J

 

[oso diablo]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

 

[Air Stich]

I voted yes, but I don't have a problem with them being moved to the AC forum. Sure they get more attention in the Shark Pool . . . just like a WDIS would get more attention here. This forum is getting a little cluttered with the goings on in too many individual leagues.

I'm not sure a Commissioner's Forum would get any more traffic than the AC Forum, so I'm changing my vote to no new forum. Just keep them out of the Shark Pool.

 

[footballnerd]

I voted no, commissioner threads belong in the SP

The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.

the bolded words alone qualify these threads to be in the SP.I think FBG should introduce tags/categories to the site, I've seen other types of message boards where OPs can tag their thread under certain categories, then it would be easier to search for specific topics. Examples WR threads, RB threads, or Commissioner threads.

See towards the bottom of this forum as an example.

Thanks. I love that feature. Let me check into how they're doing that and see what software they're using. That seems like a really cool feature for a board.

J

Ya I like a lot of features on that site. They also have a rating feature where each reader can "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" a topic so people can skip over the bad threads. And if a topic reaches a certain number of thumbs up it is posted on the front page of the site. Not sure if FBG wants to another page to the site but the rating system might be nice with say footballs and penalty flags .

 

[Red Herring]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

It also helps us non-commishes, both to see what they go through and why they make decisions they do, as well as a better understanding of how my league's rules should effect my team (and hopefully give me another small edge.

 

[DoubleG]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

Perhaps it's just the "Veto" threads that need to be moved. In general, I find many of the other commish threads interesting and as the post above explains, could prove very useful in closing loop holes in leagues before an issue arises.

 

[CaptainHook]

i like having them in the shark pool

 

[dagwood]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum. I have always felt that a commissioner will get more replies to their questions if these remained in the Shark Pool. But alas, these are getting moved over to the AC where there is very little traffic. Unless I am specifically looking for trade/waiver help or WDIS answers I rarely (practically never) head over to that forum.Being a long-time commissioner I may have valuable insight that could help others who are asking for help. I may at some point want to hear from other commissioners. I feel I will get very little response if my thread gets moved to the AC abyss.I think it is time for FBG to establish a Commissioners Forum. What say you? I would appreciate any and all comments. Thank you.RodyETA: I mistakenly posted this poll in the AC first---because a thread I was reading (a commissioners question) that started in the SP got moved while I was reading it and when I decided to post this poll I didn't realize I was in the AC. The poll over there can be deleted if this is allowed to remain here in the SP.

Now that you know they are moving all commissioner questions to the AC forum, why can't u just go to the AC forum to impart your wisdom.

 

[Dizzy]

I voted “yes” here for a Commissioner’s Forum… in fact one of the best FF threads that I ever came across was the Shark Pool’s “Rules EVERY League Should Have” topic. Fantastic ideas there and many were written directly into my league’s revised Bylaws (rev. 9 for those playing along at home). It would make for the perfect inaugural “pinning” in a new Commish forum IMO.

I never look at the AC forum (just don’t get it) and didn’t know that Commish-based threads were being mover there.

“FF Commissioner… it’s a thankless job, but at least the hours are long and the pay is bad!” (saw that on a T-shirt once).

 

[Pickle Rody]

Now that you know they are moving all commissioner questions to the AC forum, why can't u just go to the AC forum to impart your wisdom.

I thought maybe somebody would read my post and instead of seeing it for what it is they would take the slant that I thought I was some kind of know-it-all. That is not the case. This discussion isn't about me. It's about threads getting moved to a forum where they get lost instead of remaining here in the SP where more people will have the opportunity to comment. Because all the commissioner threads keep getting moved, yet most of them are NOT team specific, I deduced there was a site-wide effort to purge the SP of these commissioner threads. I disagree with the handling of these threads and hoped that a push for a Commissioners Forum and thoughtful discussion of such would convince Joe and David to add one to the site. Although, as suggested earlier, a pinned thread would work nicely to gauge the true need for such a forum.There is a simple answer to your question though. I just don't go there......at all. I (thankfully) almost never have a WDIS question and don't feel the need to ask about it there. I know my options and what I need to do about it when I have a WDIS issue. There are way too many WDIS threads in the AC forum (which is where they should be) to even consider weeding through them all to look for commissioner threads. I also don't go looking to impart my wisdom on a regular basis either, but when a commissioner thread pops up here in the Shark Pool I take a look to see if there is any value I could gain from whatever might be being discussed. Or, if it is something I have experience with, I will add what I know to the discussion. When a good discussion starts with a commissioner thread I like to keep up with it, but the thread gets moved and other threads bump down the initial one marked with a "move arrow" so it gets forgotten about. Rody

 

[Joe Bryant]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Those are two very different types of threads. J

 

[PranksterJD]

What about a "commissioner questions" uber-thread, pinned or not. It would stay in the Shark pool and get the relative traffic, but wouldn't clutter the page?

 

[GoBears84]

I would like to see a separate forum. Within the forum could be some pinned threads - including 'Rules every league should have', 'Best league sites', etc.

The problem with one long thread is that every commissioner question will be in there - including 'should I veto this trade'. You can go look at the pinned threads in the Apps area if you want to see for yourself

 

[Nemesis]

I do not agree that all Commissioners questions or topics belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

I voted NO.They belong in the Shark Pool.Perhaps half of us are commissioners in one league or another.It is instructive to all to read these threads.They belong in the Shark Pool. They are about fantasy football. Fantasy football is more than just player projections.

I also voted NO.....agree they should stay in the SP.I like the healthy debate that the SP adds to a league issue....and it let's other leagues look in on "what not to do" or how to resolve FF conflicts where there isn't always a clear cut answer.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Just pin a gigantic thread up top for all these things. Most are generic enough that you can get a bit of help from glancing at them. It's my first year being a commish and I've found several of these threads helpful (and especially GregR).

 

[GregR_2]

A forum full of "should this trade be vetoed?" threads. Sounds like a place I'd stay away from.

I agree with moving "Should this trade be vetoed?" threads. I think all other commissioner-related issues should be allowed to stay in the SP though.

Good discussion on this. I'm willing to listen here.

I think the above post hits a good point.

For me the dividing line is threads that relate to the majority of the board vs threads that are specific to one league.

I think the "would you veto this trade?" posts are exactly like the "who should I start?" posts. It's one guy asking for help in his specific league. It's usually the guy that had a trade vetoed and is looking for backup to go to his commish with. That's not what we're trying to do with the Shark Pool.

But there are threads dealing with commish stuff that do relate to the majority of the board. Thoughts on serpentine styles for drafts. Best practices for distributing waiver wire players. How to make the league more fun. Etc. All of those are great Shark Pool topics as they relate to the majority of the board.

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.

J

I'd like to see the line drawn on whether the commish is seeking specific opinions on the trade, versus seeking advice on how to address a situation. If we're debating the rankings of players involved, that's something that is probably only useful for that one specific trade. But when the discussion centers on how to resolve the league dispute over a trade, I think that is useful to everyone. I've learned a lot about being a good commish from such threads .

 

[QuizGuy66]

There should be a hawk's forum. I suggest the Hawk's Nest.

Seriously, though, does it really warrant another forum? Perhaps it could be merged in with the Assistant Coach forum since that's land of the polls anyway?

-QG

 

[Novice2]

There is no NFL talk here. Please move!!!!!!

TIA

 

[blake]

I didn't realize all commissioner threads were being moved, that is a shame.

same here. bad move.

 

[grateful zed]

commishes are better off seen than heard.

 

[BassNBrew]

You've got my vote. If it will help, I see no reason not to.It would be nice of those who are voting 'no' to explain their reasoning?

Voted no. I see no harm in those posts being in the shark pool...you know, where we discuss fantasy football.

 

[dagwood]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Those are two very different types of threads. J

Agreed. And I think those are the ones that are getting moved that the OP is upset about.How many times do you have to post don't veto the trade unless there is evidence of collusion.

 

[THE FANTASY KING]

So not really sure. I know for certain we don't want "would you veto this trade / help me make a ruling on weird situation" type threads. But I love the commish type threads that relate to the board.J

i would distinguish between these two groups, though. Veto/No Veto threads are generally uninteresting, i agree. But the latter - those that discuss some sort of quirky happening - could be quite helpful as they can identify rule loopholes that need to be closed, or help illuminate best practices for how to run a league.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Those are two very different types of threads. J

Maybe it is as simple as providing instructions to your moderaters about what is an acceptable "commissioner" thread and what is not and taking these threads on a case by case basis. I also find value in a lot of the commissioner threads, but do not want the Shark Pool polluted with threads that are too league specific. I also do not think a Commissioner forum would be that helpful as traffic in the secondary forums seems to be minimal.Regards,THE FANTASY KING

 

[Pickle Rody]

It seems pretty clear to me that threads from commissioners dealing with a trade dispute or a veto/no veto situation definitely belong in the AC. I haven't seen one post in here saying otherwise. I sincerely doubt anyone could come up with a good argument to keep them in the SP.

It's also pretty clear, at a nearly 3-1 clip so far, that a lot of us feel a Commissioners Forum would be worth having. Granted, it's a small sample size right now.

I may be in the minority, but I also feel that having a fantasy football Commissioners Forum is much more important than a Baseball Forum on a fantasy football website. Yet, that Baseball forum is here. Apparently there was a need to move baseball discussion out of the FFA and give them there own special place.

I am interested to hear why Joe and David are reluctant to create a Commissioners Forum, if in fact they are reluctant. It appears that way to me, but I may be reading into Joe's comments too broadly. Or maybe an explanation why a Baseball Forum is more important to have on a fantasy football website then a FF Commissioners Forum? Please help me to understand the thinking here.

Let me also state for the record: I do not have a problem with commissioner threads remaining in the SP. If the trade dispute or veto/no veto threads get moved to the appropriate forum but the other commissioner type threads remain here in the SP it would be a huge improvement. Obviously I would prefer a separate forum for commissioner issues, but I would accept them remaining here in the SP if there was improved moderation taking place.

Rody

 

[Black]

...voted Yes, but I probably won't ever see the questions. Usually just read SP.

 

[Pickle Rody]

bump

 

[Rebirtha]

The baseball forum was ultimately a mistake. This is a bad idea.