Time to do away with the Electoral College (1 Viewer)

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Does this mean 1 vote for President, and 1 vote for Vice President, and both couldn't be from the same state? I believe this is still in effect, as **** Cheney had to establish residence outside of Texas to be Bush's running mate so they could be assured of all of Texas's electoral votes for both of them.

Under the 12th Amendment, there are separate ballots for President and Vice President.  Prior to that, there was a single ballot.  The President was the candidate with the most votes.  The veep was the candidate with the second most votes.  So, in 1796, Adams gets the most votes, but his rival, Jefferson got the second most votes and was vice president.  So in 1800, every elector votes straight ticket.  Leaving Jefferson (the Anti-Federalist Presidential candidate) and Burr, (the Anti-Federalist Veep candidate) tied with the House having to break the tie.

It is unclear how much of Artcle II, Sec. 1, CL. 3 would still apply after the Twelfth Amendment. 

 

[Van Dyman]

I'm reading over Madison's arguments at the 1787 convention.  Cool stuff.

http://constitution.org/dfc/dfc_0719.htm

 

[Pots]

The "factor" isn't unnecessary.  It's the same result as splitting each state's electoral votes but rounding at N decimal places.  

• Ex. Texas (38.00 total)-
  
• Trump 52.6% = 19.99 electoral votes
  
• Clinton 43.4% = 16.49 electoral votes
  
• Ex. California (55.00 total)-
  
• Trump 33.2% = 18.26 electoral votes
  
• Clinton 61.5% = 33.83 electoral votes
  

Please note that I qualified my statement stating that it affected the accuracy of rounding. Larger factor = more accurate distribution, but could be more cumbersome for the average person to understand.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Was holding out hope for some anarchy today.  meh

 

[Joe Summer]

As far as I can tell, this was only the 2nd time in history that the winning candidate had more than 1 elector vote for someone else.

 

[Sand]

As far as I can tell, this was only the 2nd time in history that the winning candidate had more than 1 elector vote for someone else.

Were the four that defected from HRC the most ever?

 

[Da Guru]

As far as I can tell, this was only the 2nd time in history that the winning candidate had more than 1 elector vote for someone else.

Hard to believe that Bill Clinton is an elector in his "home state" of NY.....cast his vote for his wife.

 

[moleculo]

Time to shut it down.  Trump is exactly the reason that the elector construct exists.  that being said, had the elector chosen someone other than Trump, there would be riots in the streets for sure.  So, let's ditch it.

BTW, I'm not talking about the 50 separate, simultaneous races, of varying values.  I'm fine with that.  I'm talking about designated electors here.  I'm suggesting automatically assigning votes on election day to the winning candidate.