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Times Square - costumed characters out of control? (1 Viewer)

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I personally avoid times square at all costs - but wondering if anyone has seen the escalating issues with the costume characters running around taking pictures with tourists

complaints ranging from:

characters freaking out if not getting tipped appropriately - cursing and hitting

accusations of characters groping women - hanging out in view of kids with their costume heads off while smokin

forget the naked cowboy crap - now there is naked cowgirl, native americans, etc

statue of liberty with props that grab them back if you dont tip.

spiderman decked a cop

I guess times square has always been a magnet for bad stuff but this just is crazy - any thoughts?

 
I personally avoid times square at all costs - but wondering if anyone has seen the escalating issues with the costume characters running around taking pictures with tourists

complaints ranging from:

characters freaking out if not getting tipped appropriately - cursing and hitting

accusations of characters groping women - hanging out in view of kids with their costume heads off while smokin

forget the naked cowboy crap - now there is naked cowgirl, native americans, etc

statue of liberty with props that grab them back if you dont tip.

spiderman decked a cop

I guess times square has always been a magnet for bad stuff but this just is crazy - any thoughts?
It's Guiliani's fault - should have just left the porn theaters alone

 
I personally avoid times square at all costs - but wondering if anyone has seen the escalating issues with the costume characters running around taking pictures with tourists

complaints ranging from:

characters freaking out if not getting tipped appropriately - cursing and hitting

accusations of characters groping women - hanging out in view of kids with their costume heads off while smokin

forget the naked cowboy crap - now there is naked cowgirl, native americans, etc

statue of liberty with props that grab them back if you dont tip.

spiderman decked a cop

I guess times square has always been a magnet for bad stuff but this just is crazy - any thoughts?
It's Guiliani's fault - should have just left the porn theaters alone
:goodposting:

kept most of the freaks in one place & out of sight.

 
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I personally avoid times square at all costs - but wondering if anyone has seen the escalating issues with the costume characters running around taking pictures with tourists

complaints ranging from:

characters freaking out if not getting tipped appropriately - cursing and hitting

accusations of characters groping women - hanging out in view of kids with their costume heads off while smokin

forget the naked cowboy crap - now there is naked cowgirl, native americans, etc

statue of liberty with props that grab them back if you dont tip.

spiderman decked a cop

I guess times square has always been a magnet for bad stuff but this just is crazy - any thoughts?
It's Guiliani's fault - should have just left the porn theaters alone
Amen - I'd take a hundred peep show places over 5 elmos cursing at kids as they walk by! lol

 
This is the first I've heard of this. Found this article with some doozy's: Bishop is the fourth Spider-Man arrested in Times Square in the last two years.

In late June, a different Spider-Man was arrested for allegedly groping a New Yorker. In that same week, a completely different Spider-Man was convicted of harassing a woman in a Times Square spat.

There also have been recent reports of a brawl between two Statues of Liberty and a man dressed as Woody from “Toy Story” allegedly groping women.

In April 2013, a man dressed as Cookie Monster was charged with endangering the welfare of a child after allegedly shoving a 2 1/2-year-old boy.

 
To me the worst thing was seeing a guy in what was OBVIOUSLY an Iron Man suit that had been spray painted to look like Captain America. I mean really, people, COME ON!!!

 
They should shut em all down.....when did this start happening anyway with all the characters in cities? Awful

 
You can thank the tourists. They're the only reason those freaks are out there in the first place. I'll give elmo a knuckle sandwich before I give him a dollar.

 
You can thank the tourists. They're the only reason those freaks are out there in the first place. I'll give elmo a knuckle sandwich before I give him a dollar.
A couple years ago, took the whole fam to NYC. We didn't even touch Times Square until we were ready to walk back to Penn Station and I figured, "What the heck, might as well show the kids for a few minutes." We spent maybe 10 minutes.

Was in NYC with the wife last week and we didn't come close to Times Square. I guess it's fine to just want to see it if you visit the city, but I just can't imagine wanting to spend any meaningful time there. Even though hotels tend to be a bit cheaper there, I refuse to even consider a Times Square hotel.

 
This is the first I've heard of this. Found this article with some doozy's: Bishop is the fourth Spider-Man arrested in Times Square in the last two years.

In late June, a different Spider-Man was arrested for allegedly groping a New Yorker. In that same week, a completely different Spider-Man was convicted of harassing a woman in a Times Square spat.

There also have been recent reports of a brawl between two Statues of Liberty and a man dressed as Woody from “Toy Story” allegedly groping women.

In April 2013, a man dressed as Cookie Monster was charged with endangering the welfare of a child after allegedly shoving a 2 1/2-year-old boy.
i bet

 
I worked at the Marriott Marquis recently and didn't realize how out of control it is over there. Thank Bloomberg for that for setting up that whole pedestrian area. Noticed the same thing in front of Bellagio in Vegas. What used to be a nice walk at night to watch the fountain is now a circus.

 
Disney's pretty vindictive about protecting their brand. Kind of surprised they haven't sent a cadre of mouse eared assassins there to escort unauthorized "cast members" off the premises.

 
I worked at the Marriott Marquis recently and didn't realize how out of control it is over there. Thank Bloomberg for that for setting up that whole pedestrian area. Noticed the same thing in front of Bellagio in Vegas. What used to be a nice walk at night to watch the fountain is now a circus.
Yep... annoying as hell over there.

 
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jamny said:
I worked at the Marriott Marquis recently and didn't realize how out of control it is over there. Thank Bloomberg for that for setting up that whole pedestrian area. Noticed the same thing in front of Bellagio in Vegas. What used to be a nice walk at night to watch the fountain is now a circus.
Yep... annoying as hell over there.
Been a few years since I've been out to Vegas, what have they changed in front of the Bellagio? Or is nothing different, just lots more people??

 
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jamny said:
I worked at the Marriott Marquis recently and didn't realize how out of control it is over there. Thank Bloomberg for that for setting up that whole pedestrian area. Noticed the same thing in front of Bellagio in Vegas. What used to be a nice walk at night to watch the fountain is now a circus.
Yep... annoying as hell over there.
Fremont Street is worse...

 
Las Vegas and Hollywood are both packed with these fools. Of course they never get any attention or money from me. They must do pretty well though as far as panhandling goes.

 
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jamny said:
I worked at the Marriott Marquis recently and didn't realize how out of control it is over there. Thank Bloomberg for that for setting up that whole pedestrian area. Noticed the same thing in front of Bellagio in Vegas. What used to be a nice walk at night to watch the fountain is now a circus.
Yep... annoying as hell over there.
Been a few years since I've been out to Vegas, what have they changed in front of the Bellagio? Or is nothing different, just lots more people??
The entire stretch is filled with vendors, street performers and costumed idiots. No room to walk, we actually stepped into the street at one point to get past the gridlock. It didn't help that we were passing just as the fountain show ended and everyone started moving.

 
Thunderlips said:
Disney's pretty vindictive about protecting their brand. Kind of surprised they haven't sent a cadre of mouse eared assassins there to escort unauthorized "cast members" off the premises.
Right on cue - this nonsense hurts their brand - Disney, MArvels and others should follow - wipe this out by the end of the year!

NY Post today

The producers of “Sesame Street” said Monday they’re considering legal action against panhandlers who dress up like Muppets — as Mayor de Blasio vowed a crackdown on Times Square’s growing horde of cartoon impersonators.

The non-profit Sesame Workshop said it “has not authorized the appearance of any Sesame Street costumed characters on public streets in any city.”

“We care about our fans and the image of our brand, and, like everyone else, we care about public safety on our streets,” the company said.

“We have been talking to other concerned groups, including third-party intellectual-property-rights holders, to determine appropriate actions that we can take.”

“Elmo” and “Cookie Monster” impersonators have been busted in recent years over disturbing incidents that include going on anti-Semitic rants and shoving a 2-year-old after his mom refused to hand over a $2 tip.

De Blasio said he was outraged by the increasing lawlessness of some of the characters, including the “Spider-Man” who was caught on video slugging a cop on Saturday and five others busted afterward.

“I think this has gone too far, and it’s time to take some real steps to regulate this new reality — I don’t know whether to call it an industry or what you call it, but it needs to be regulated,” de Blasio said.

“I know some of my colleagues in the City Council are looking at legislation that we could move quickly to create licensing and rules.”

Until then, de Blasio vowed strict enforcement of all existing laws, including a ban on aggressive panhandling.

“It’s not appropriate for anyone to demand a certain amount of money from a passing tourist and harass them,” de Blasio said.

As many as three cops at a time were spotted keeping watch over the costumed coterie in Times Square on Monday, a day after the NYPD trailed some panhandlers and told tourists that paying them to pose for photos was strictly optional.

Councilman Andy King (D-Bronx) said he planned to introduce a bill next month that would cover anyone who wears a mask or “changes their physical appearance” in order to ask people for money.

“This has become a real headache for a lot of New Yorkers, tourists and children,” he said.

King said he hoped to have the law enacted in time for Halloween, and that failure to comply would be punishable by a fine and forced removal.

A fake Batman, however, insisted that “the city can’t do nothing” because he pays taxes on his earnings.

“You know how much this costume costs? $3,000,” the faux Caped Crusader complained.

“The problem now is the police are telling people they don’t have to pay to take a picture. That’s the big problem right now.”

Ricardo Ruiz, who was dressed up as Mario from the “Super Mario Bros.” video game, said he has had a state tax ID since last year and pays between $150 and $180 every three months.

“If it’s free, OK,” he said of the proposed city license through a Spanish-language interpreter.

“But we don’t make a lot, ­­­ ­so­ ­. . . if it’s more money . . . no.”

 
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Polish Hammer said:
To me the worst thing was seeing a guy in what was OBVIOUSLY an Iron Man suit that had been spray painted to look like Captain America. I mean really, people, COME ON!!!
maybe it was an iron patriot suit
 
Was with the family in NYC last year and there was no way my kids were posing with those creepers.

I will pay to go to Disneyland or Universal Studios rather than having my kids have a photo with a bum dressed up for Halloween year round.

 
Was with the family in NYC last year and there was no way my kids were posing with those creepers.

I will pay to go to Disneyland or Universal Studios rather than having my kids have a photo with a bum dressed up for Halloween year round.
Im sure you can get some bad apples as characters at Disney/Universal but they are few and far between - as far as I know they have a tough screening process and background checks.....this is essentially any wacko getting a costume and running around the streets panhandling while posing with children all day.

 
Was with the family in NYC last year and there was no way my kids were posing with those creepers.

I will pay to go to Disneyland or Universal Studios rather than having my kids have a photo with a bum dressed up for Halloween year round.
Im sure you can get some bad apples as characters at Disney/Universal but they are few and far between - as far as I know they have a tough screening process and background checks.....this is essentially any wacko getting a costume and running around the streets panhandling while posing with children all day.
My thoughts exactly.

 
I don't get why people pose with these creepos.
it's mostly unassuming tourists.....seems to be like

tourist dragging kids around NYC.....kids sees characters....wants picture or to meet such character....kid screams/cries/throws a fit until parent gives in....unknowing parent not familiar with NYC may assume this is licensed/sanction meet and greet like Disney....parent gets picture to shut kid up then gets hit with ridiculous demand for $10 "tip" from an Elmo that has been seen in the past smoking and drinking right before posing with kids...stunned tourist refuses and gets cursed at and sometimes even attacked by Elmo and his gang of roving characters.....rinse and repeat each day.

 
I took my 4-year-old niece to Times Square last month and she saw Elmo and wanted a picture. So there were three of these things, she got the picture, my sister-in-law who only speaks Italian asks me how much to give them. I tell her $3. So the one Elmo points at the wallet, SIL gives them $5. So I thought it was done, it wasn't.

Second Elmo points at himself/herself, wants $5 for each Elmo. I said loudly, "#### no" walked over and led SIL and the niece away. $15 for a picture with three Elmos who paid $150 for those suits? Not on my watch. :no:

Seems like taking TS back to the peep show club days might be an option at this rate.

 
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So do these guys sit there and put their hand/paw out after? Or do they speak in their deep dude voice asking for money?

:lmao:

I am going to NYC shortly and had no plans to go to Times Square but I may have to now.

 
So do these guys sit there and put their hand/paw out after? Or do they speak in their deep dude voice asking for money?

:lmao:

I am going to NYC shortly and had no plans to go to Times Square but I may have to now.
Yeah they don't talk, they hand gesture. Like pointing at wallet, then pointing at each other then the wallet for more. Some homeless dude could scratch together $150 and get a new outfit, drink himself to death in one night with all the cash he earns in one day trolling dumb tourists. At first I thought these were like Disney-sanctioned actors or something, they're basically just disheveled guy with a plastic cup in an Elmo costume.

 
So do these guys sit there and put their hand/paw out after? Or do they speak in their deep dude voice asking for money?

:lmao:

I am going to NYC shortly and had no plans to go to Times Square but I may have to now.
Yeah they don't talk, they hand gesture. Like pointing at wallet, then pointing at each other then the wallet for more. Some homeless dude could scratch together $150 and get a new outfit, drink himself to death in one night with all the cash he earns in one day trolling dumb tourists. At first I thought these were like Disney-sanctioned actors or something, they're basically just disheveled guy with a plastic cup in an Elmo costume.
Dear God that is awful! lol

 
Todays NY Post - Spidey will return....ugh

The Times Square “Spider-Man” charged with slugging an NYPD cop plans to don his mask and tights again — but first intends to file his own complaint against the officer, a panhandling pal said Wednesday.

Junior Bishop, 25, went back to the Crossroads of the World on Wednesday afternoon, but in street clothes instead of his self-styled, black-and-red Spidey suit, said the friend, who was dressed as Batman.

Bishop, who got bailed out of the Tombs under cover of darkness Tuesday night, was looking for temporary work as a tour guide or a cook, the costumed crony said.

“He’s not going to return as a character for at least two or three months,” the friend said.

Batman also said Bishop planned to file an official complaint against arresting Officer Eduardo Molina “because [bishop] says he was punched first” during the infamous incident Saturday.

“I saw the fight. The police had been harassing him for three hours before it happened,” said Batman, who declined to give his real name for fear of NYPD reprisals.

Bishop, who’s also solicited tips while dressed as Cookie Monster, was caught on video slugging Molina after the cop confronted him for demanding $10 a photo to pose with tourists.

But while Bishop’s Facebook page features photos of him clutching thick wads of cash and counting out dollar bills in a bathroom, he was unable to post $3,500 bail and got tossed in the slammer for three days after Saturday’s fight with Molina.

Bishop wasn’t at his family’s Brooklyn home Wednesday, and his mother and sister both declined to comment.

Mayor Bill de Blasio vowed a crackdown on Times Square’s costumed characters — including a new law requiring them to get city licenses — in the wake of Bishop’s arrest.

 
Barcelona regulates these characters. They each have their designated location and display their licences and you can see the police actively enforcing people not following these laws. I saw three cops standing around one individual who apparently was not in compliance. People selling knockoffs are also a big problem there, and the Jamacans seem to have a system of watch dogs who alert them when the cops are coming and they quickly pull of their display of goods and run for it. Apparently the cops do not go undercover or they could easily catch them.

 
jon_mx said:
Barcelona regulates these characters. They each have their designated location and display their licences and you can see the police actively enforcing people not following these laws. I saw three cops standing around one individual who apparently was not in compliance. People selling knockoffs are also a big problem there, and the Jamacans seem to have a system of watch dogs who alert them when the cops are coming and they quickly pull of their display of goods and run for it. Apparently the cops do not go undercover or they could easily catch them.
I think NYC will have to start regulating this - some sort of licensing process with a background check - you can't have possible criminals dressing up as muppets and interacting with kids all day! It will also thin out the herd if there was a licensing fee.

 
Last time I was in Times Square was 2009 and me and some work friends were walking around there and a guy dressed as Spiderman was walking towards me and I put my hand up and we slapped it high!!!

It was awesome, why would you discourage these people?

 
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I walked through Times Square this week and there were 4 topless ladies with nothing but body paint on. Offdee 7s. Guess you gotta take the bad with the good?

 
It continues....top story on NY Post website right now - characters are new 21st century squeegee guys - lol! The revolution has begun!

One recent summer day, I led a young cousin who lives in another town through the tourist mecca of Times Square — New York City’s formerly grungy red-light district that today poses as a shiny, happy, family-friendly playground.

Within minutes, I realized I had entered a kind of bizarro Disneyland, a sinister place that looks ­benign on the surface.

“Mickey Mouse!’’ the little cousin cried. “Batman!’’ he shrieked. But within minutes, even the 6-year-old noticed that Batman’s suit was frayed. Spider-Man reeked of booze. We got out of there quickly, but not before I plunked down $40 to these freaks, a kind of exit fee I was intimidated into paying in the hope of ending a boy’s torment.

Two decades ago, then-Mayor Giuliani ran the sex industry out of Times Square. Former Mayor Bloomberg installed pedestrian plazas where visitors might cool their heels after dining at Olive Garden. Soon the area became a breeding ground for new types of squeegee men — folks who once traumatized motorists by slopping buckets full of dirty water on windshields, scraped them with squeegees and demanded money in return.

It’s extortion.

Junior Bishop, 25, clad as Spider-Man, was arrested Saturday after, cops said, he posed for a tourist’s picture, then refused the woman’s $1 tip, saying he wanted $10. Overhearing the exchange, Police Officer Eduardo Molina told the woman she could pay whatever she wanted, to which Bishop allegedly spewed, “F–k you! This is none of your business.’’ He tore off his mask, did not comply with the officer’s request that he show picture identification and, in a scuffle caught on videotape, the phony web-slinger allegedly punched Molina twice, causing the officer swelling around the eye and a laceration to the face. Bishop was charged with assault on a police officer, resisting ­arrest, criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.


“They’re like little terrorists preying on all the tourists,’’ a law-enforcement source told The Post of the costumed creatures.

Cops busted five more creeps last weekend, including the Naked Black Cowboy — real name Titus Gandy, 22 — who plays guitar while wearing nothing but his tighty whities. Gandy came to the Midtown South station house to check on his buddy, Bishop, and was nabbed on an open warrant and charged with drug possession after cocaine was found in his wallet during a frisk, sources said.

Others, including a man dressed as Captain America, face charges including aggressive panhandling.

And the geeks have only been more bold.

This week, the overdressed Times Square panhandlers were on the prowl. I saw the Naked Cowboy, someone in a furry Elmo suit and a man done up as Spider-Man hitting up tourists for donations.

Last month, the Broadway League, a trade group representing theater owners and operators, blamed a drop in ticket sales to suburban folks on those dastardly beasts dressed as cartoon characters who harass potential patrons. The City Council is considering legislation that would require anyone dressed as a cuddly cretin to display identification. “I think this has gone too far. It needs to be regulated,”Mayor de Blasio said.
In June, a Spider-Man (not Bishop) was convicted of harassment after punching a woman in an argument over her refusal to pay a tip. Characters have been accused of groping women. Last year, a man dressed as Cookie Monster was charged with endangering the welfare of a child and other counts after allegedly shoving a 2-year-old boy when his mother was slow to pay up. In 2012, an Elmo impersonator was busted in Times Square after alleged shouting “I hate Jews,’’ then pleaded guilty last year to attempted grand larceny and stalking for trying to shake down the Girl Scouts of America for $2 million, threatening to spread false rumors that the organization arranged sexual encounters between underage girls and adult men.

Sesame Workshop, the nonprofit that owns the rights to Sesame Street characters (Cookie Monster, Elmo) is the only outfit to announce it’s considering taking legal action against brutes who dress up as its creations without authorization.

This can’t continue.

Mayor de Blasio — help! Run these creatures out of town immediately. Don’t give our city over to criminals masquerading as critters and caped crusaders.

 
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The protests have begun! NY Post a few days ago...

El-mo, they won’t go!

Dozens of costumed characters — including Elmo, Super Mario and Minnie Mouse — stormed Times Square on Tuesday to demand cops stop “harassing” them so the mascots can target tourists for tips.

“We have rights!” proclaimed a sign held by Woody — the goofy cartoon cowboy from “Toy Story.”

“Stop harassing,” Hello Kitty’s sign declared.

The furry fury was sparked by a police crackdown on the looney toons who pose for pictures and pester customers for tips.

In response, they joined forces in a new union-like group, NYC Artists United for a Smile, to send the message that they’re not going anywhere.

“We actually want respect, from the NYPD and others. We come here in all kinds of weather. We come here to work and we earn our living by accepting tips and donations,” said Jovanna Melendez, who was sporting a Minnie Mouse costume.

“We’re one of the attractions within this country,” she said.

The 40-plus plushie-clad protesters — Smurfette and Buzz Lightyear among them — also waved signs proclaiming, “Let Us Work!”

Dressed as Batman, Jorge Vilchis added, “We do this with love … We ask that the pedestrians, the tourists and the NYPD respect the work of these costumed characters.”

NYPD officers distributed fliers two weeks ago, informing tourists they don’t have to tip the costumed characters.

On Aug. 10, cops arrested four “superheroes” for blocking pedestrians and grabbing one person.

But the characters — who have since teamed up with the workers-rights group La Fuente — say they’re not all bad guys.

“They’ve come together because they understand that there’s an image out there,” said Lucia Gomez, executive director of La Fuente.

“The workers understand that there have been bad actors within their collective and they also understand that bad actors shouldn’t represent who they are as a collective,” Gomez said.

“As such, they’ve decided internally to begin a process of creating a set of ethics and guidelines on how to work with tourists,” she added.

The protest comes after a long history of bad behavior by the masked characters.

Some of them have been arrested for alleged assault, harassment and groping.

In one case, “Spider-Man” allegedly punched a cop in July. In another, a foul-mouthed “Elmo” grabbed a tourist’s camera.

The newly formed group has drafted a set of guidelines, including “respect between co-workers” and “the right to work for tips.”

 
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