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timschochet lost the debate, who is next? (1 Viewer)

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timschochet said:
Fine. Don't worry, I'll make it short.

African-Americans suffered through centuries of slavery in this country followed by a century of Jim Crow discrimination. Though most of that has vanished since the civil rights movement, the legacy of it remains- in the utter poverty of so many black people, the disintegration of family life, poor education, crime, etc. If as a result of all this, a certain number of blacks see racism even when it doesn't exist, or when an even smaller number express racism themselves, it should come as no surprise to anyone. It's also of very little significance.

While certain white groups, mostly immigrants, have faced some discrimination in the past, it was never equal to the black experience, nor were they discriminated against for being white. Certainly anyone growing up white in this country has no institutionalized memory of racism, no fear of being stopped by police because of their skin color, and, statistically, face much better odds of a good education, a better standard of living, and economic success. So when I hear white conservatives complain about discrimination and a "double standard", I think it's pathetic.

Your turn.
You know when I first read your post I wanted to set you straight, but I realized anyone that thinks like that can't be set straight.
That's it? That's the best you got?
That is the best I am willing to do on someone that thinks like that.Did you not read Tim's post ? He must troll himself every day with his own belief system.
You wanted a debate and you failed to provide a counter to what he wrote.
I didn't realize how far gone Tim's thinking was, it isn't safe debating a person like that.

 
after seeing Tim's post on this subject it is painfully evident to most that debating him on this subject would be like debating Hitler on the subject of Jewish people.

everyone agrees right?

 
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after seeing Tim's post on this subject it is painfully evident to most that debating him on this subject would be like debating Hitler on the subject of Jewish people.

everyone agrees right?
Oh, I think we're all in agreement alright.

 
My goodness...here I was, all ready for Sugar Ray - Roberto Duran slugfest and johnjohn goes "No mas"...

:pickle: :popcorn: :boxing: :unsure: :topcat: :bs:

Epic fail....

:sadbanana:

 
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timschochet said:
Fine. Don't worry, I'll make it short.

African-Americans suffered through centuries of slavery in this country followed by a century of Jim Crow discrimination. Though most of that has vanished since the civil rights movement, the legacy of it remains- in the utter poverty of so many black people, the disintegration of family life, poor education, crime, etc. If as a result of all this, a certain number of blacks see racism even when it doesn't exist, or when an even smaller number express racism themselves, it should come as no surprise to anyone. It's also of very little significance.

While certain white groups, mostly immigrants, have faced some discrimination in the past, it was never equal to the black experience, nor were they discriminated against for being white. Certainly anyone growing up white in this country has no institutionalized memory of racism, no fear of being stopped by police because of their skin color, and, statistically, face much better odds of a good education, a better standard of living, and economic success. So when I hear white conservatives complain about discrimination and a "double standard", I think it's pathetic.

Your turn.
You know when I first read your post I wanted to set you straight, but I realized anyone that thinks like that can't be set straight.
That's it? That's the best you got?
That is the best I am willing to do on someone that thinks like that.Did you not read Tim's post ? He must troll himself every day with his own belief system.
You wanted a debate and you failed to provide a counter to what he wrote.
I didn't realize how far gone Tim's thinking was, it isn't safe debating a person like that.
How about giving it an ounce of effort. That's what a debate is. Pretty embarrassing effort. You had your chance for people to listen to your point and failed miserably.

Overall though, I like the debate idea. I think we need to implement this more often.

Tim vs ???

Who is next?

 
timschochet said:
Fine. Don't worry, I'll make it short.

African-Americans suffered through centuries of slavery in this country followed by a century of Jim Crow discrimination. Though most of that has vanished since the civil rights movement, the legacy of it remains- in the utter poverty of so many black people, the disintegration of family life, poor education, crime, etc. If as a result of all this, a certain number of blacks see racism even when it doesn't exist, or when an even smaller number express racism themselves, it should come as no surprise to anyone. It's also of very little significance.

While certain white groups, mostly immigrants, have faced some discrimination in the past, it was never equal to the black experience, nor were they discriminated against for being white. Certainly anyone growing up white in this country has no institutionalized memory of racism, no fear of being stopped by police because of their skin color, and, statistically, face much better odds of a good education, a better standard of living, and economic success. So when I hear white conservatives complain about discrimination and a "double standard", I think it's pathetic.

Your turn.
You know when I first read your post I wanted to set you straight, but I realized anyone that thinks like that can't be set straight.
That's it? That's the best you got?
That is the best I am willing to do on someone that thinks like that.Did you not read Tim's post ? He must troll himself every day with his own belief system.
You wanted a debate and you failed to provide a counter to what he wrote.
I didn't realize how far gone Tim's thinking was, it isn't safe debating a person like that.
How about giving it an ounce of effort. That's what a debate is. Pretty embarrassing effort. You had your chance for people to listen to your point and failed miserably.

Overall though, I like the debate idea. I think we need to implement this more often.

Tim vs ???

Who is next?
you mean johnjohn vs ??? I won

 
timschochet said:
Fine. Don't worry, I'll make it short.

African-Americans suffered through centuries of slavery in this country followed by a century of Jim Crow discrimination. Though most of that has vanished since the civil rights movement, the legacy of it remains- in the utter poverty of so many black people, the disintegration of family life, poor education, crime, etc. If as a result of all this, a certain number of blacks see racism even when it doesn't exist, or when an even smaller number express racism themselves, it should come as no surprise to anyone. It's also of very little significance.

While certain white groups, mostly immigrants, have faced some discrimination in the past, it was never equal to the black experience, nor were they discriminated against for being white. Certainly anyone growing up white in this country has no institutionalized memory of racism, no fear of being stopped by police because of their skin color, and, statistically, face much better odds of a good education, a better standard of living, and economic success. So when I hear white conservatives complain about discrimination and a "double standard", I think it's pathetic.

Your turn.
You know when I first read your post I wanted to set you straight, but I realized anyone that thinks like that can't be set straight.
That's it? That's the best you got?
That is the best I am willing to do on someone that thinks like that.Did you not read Tim's post ? He must troll himself every day with his own belief system.
You wanted a debate and you failed to provide a counter to what he wrote.
I didn't realize how far gone Tim's thinking was, it isn't safe debating a person like that.
How about giving it an ounce of effort. That's what a debate is. Pretty embarrassing effort. You had your chance for people to listen to your point and failed miserably.

Overall though, I like the debate idea. I think we need to implement this more often.

Tim vs ???

Who is next?
you mean johnjohn vs ??? I won
Welcome to ignore. You are on an exclusive list of one individual.

 
Have to give John Bender credit on this one. Guy doesn't think very much of me, but he called it.

My bad for trying to treat this even the slightest bit seriously. Sorry everyone.

 
Have to give John Bender credit on this one. Guy doesn't think very much of me, but he called it.

My bad for trying to treat this even the slightest bit seriously. Sorry everyone.
Why are you sorry? You won the thing and showed JJ to be all hat no cattle.

 
I'm an independent, but I feel strongly that this thread should serve as the "Official Liberal Thread".

To start, I think we need to raise taxes, set a maximum wage, & audit Mitt Romney.

 
Have to give John Bender credit on this one. Guy doesn't think very much of me, but he called it.

My bad for trying to treat this even the slightest bit seriously. Sorry everyone.
Why are you sorry? You won the thing and showed JJ to be all hat no cattle.
I'm sorry that I chose to partake. If we all just ignore this guy, hopefully he'll get bored and go away.
We should all be thankful you're here and partook - you indirectly got jj banned.

Gracias.

 
And johnjohn's banned. Darn. I was looking forward to more of these insightful debates.
Was he? How do you know?
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maybe jj was a tim alias to try and boost tim's credibility!

lol

in no way do i actually believe this, but if it WERE true i would admire the dedication it took to execute. it is one of those conspiracy theories i wish i could believe

 
We can get 5 pages out of this crap fest of a thread? The only good thing out of this is that Tim is rightfully appreciated as being a solid poster. I always wondered why so many people disliked Tim. :shrug:

 
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