timschochet's thread - Ranking hemorrhoids (2 Viewers)

[Passenger]

So the Love deal pretty much worked out about as bad as possible for both the Cavs and Love. Well, maybe not for Love, he's still got his $16+M player option.

Still a fascinating topic. Could argue it was a bad move to give up a young phenom like Wiggins.

Then again, LeBron is 30 and wants titles now, not later.

Cleveland less likely to win title without Love, but would it have been any more likely with Wiggins?

Long term, most definitely. Wiggins on a rookie contract is way more valuable than one year of Love.

Yep. LeBron isn't quite the GM he thinks he is.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Wonder what the series price will be for MEM / GSW?

-750/+525 open at 5D

Was listening to the BS Report yesterday with Haralabos Voulgaris. Both he and Simmons like GS to win the title.

Voulgaris mentioned that the best way to make money betting on the NBA the rest of the way is to bet GS in each game rather than betting on a series.

yea i try to listen to the simmons pods when Voulgaris is on. great listen.

 

[DrJ]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

 

[Jack White]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

I agree. I expect both Love and LeBron to stay long-term. Along with Kyrie, that's an annual title contender for the next few years.

 

[Jack White]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I can see that, but he does seem to like being on a winning team. How many winning teams are going to be able to pay him what Cleveland can?

 

[Gr00vus]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

To me, that's the reason he'll opt in. I'd think this season, and now this injury, have really hurt his market value. Seems like it makes more sense to take the $16M, get his market value back up and do the UFA thing the following offseason.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

He might think he can have it both ways. Sign with a team that has some other good players, but where can he still be more of a focal point on offense. There are a lot of bad/mediocre teams that would become pretty good if they added Kevin Love without giving anything up.

I don't think he'll do that, though. I think he'll stay in Cleveland.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

Why do you think his only options are being the man on a bad team or vying for titles with LeBron?

In any event, I didn't predict he would leave. I said there are plenty of reasons to think his situation in Cleveland is precarious. I don't really know what I'd predict. Probably a one year deal to stay in Cleveland if I had to guess, but I really have no idea.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

To me, that's the reason he'll opt in. I'd think this season, and now this injury, have really hurt his market value. Seems like it makes more sense to take the $16M, get his market value back up and do the UFA thing the following offseason.

Especially with the cap jump that season and damn near every single team having max money to spend.

 

[Jack White]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

Why do you think his only options are being the man on a bad team or vying for titles with LeBron?

In any event, I didn't predict he would leave. I said there are plenty of reasons to think his situation in Cleveland is precarious. I don't really know what I'd predict. Probably a one year deal to stay in Cleveland if I had to guess, but I really have no idea.

No, I agree, those aren't his only options. I just think his best option is staying with LeBron, and I'm guessing he thinks that also.

 

[Passenger]

Anyone predicting some bad officiating in the SA/Clips game tonight? Personally wouldn't be surprised to see some make-up calls send this to a game 7. No, I don't believe the Clippers can do it on their own.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

To me, that's the reason he'll opt in. I'd think this season, and now this injury, have really hurt his market value. Seems like it makes more sense to take the $16M, get his market value back up and do the UFA thing the following offseason.

He's going to get a max deal this offseason. It's not a question of if he will. NY/LA/Clev will offer him the max. Cleveland can offer ~$30 million more and a 5 year pact.

Only reason he'd wait a season is to wait for the salary cap increase (and try getting more $$ that way)

 

[thecatch]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

He may prefer being "the Man" to an overpaid stretch 4.

 

[Gr00vus]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

To me, that's the reason he'll opt in. I'd think this season, and now this injury, have really hurt his market value. Seems like it makes more sense to take the $16M, get his market value back up and do the UFA thing the following offseason.

He's going to get a max deal this offseason. It's not a question of if he will. NY/LA/Clev will offer him the max. Cleveland can offer ~$30 million more and a 5 year pact.

Only reason he'd wait a season is to wait for the salary cap increase (and try getting more $$ that way)

I guess you could assume some GM would be stupid enough to give him a max deal if he opts out, but I'm skeptical.

 

[No. 16]

Love is getting the max from some team when ever he hits free agency.

 

[Jack White]

Bulls awake tonight.

Brooks with a 30-footer!

 

[Jack White]

Da Bulls!

 

[Jack White]

Good for Butler. Don't let a guy get free practice shots on a dead ball.

 

[Jack White]

Should be a Flagrant 2.

 

[SWC]

Should be a Flagrant 2.

hey brohan i was fliping to the draft what happened thanks bromigo

 

[SWC]

never mind just saw it glad they ran him thats a bum move wheether i like him or not jeez lose with class and come back better next year that was crap brohans

 

[Jack White]

Dunleavy with 19 points on six field goal attempts.

 

[Jack White]

never mind just saw it glad they ran him thats a bum move wheether i like him or not jeez lose with class and come back better next year that was crap brohans

yeah the youngster lost his cool no excuse for that you can take that to the bank

 

[Juxtatarot]

Interesting that Thibs has stuck with veterans this game. Hinrich over Snell and Mirotic only played the last minute of the half due to Gibson's third foul.

 

[Jack White]

Interesting that Thibs has stuck with veterans this game. Hinrich over Snell and Mirotic only played the last minute of the half due to Gibson's third foul.

He loves Hinrich but I'm surprised about Mirotic. Maybe giving him extra rest for the knee because he knows he'll need him against Cleveland.

 

[DrJ]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

He may prefer being "the Man" to an overpaid stretch 4.

And statements he's made suggest that's a strong possibility - like in March.

“I heard some people calling me that but I know I’m not a stretch-four,” Love told NEOMG. “I’m a post player that can shoot. Right now I’m just doing what I’m called to do. For good, bad or indifferent, I’m playing my role and doing what’s asked of me. Tonight, I stayed out on the perimeter.”

 

[CurlyNight]

Why isn't Chicago sitting it's starters?

 

[Jack White]

Why isn't Chicago sitting it's starters?

That's what the 4th quarter is for!

 

[Juxtatarot]

Why isn't Chicago sitting it's starters?

It's not even the 4th quarter.

 

[CurlyNight]

Why isn't Chicago sitting it's starters?

That's what the 4th quarter is for!

For a team that finally seems to be healthy you'd think they'd rest them as much as they can?

 

[Jack White]

Why isn't Chicago sitting it's starters?

That's what the 4th quarter is for!

For a team that finally seems to be healthy you'd think they'd rest them as much as they can?

I hear what you're saying, but you can't be afraid of injuries, which can happen at any time, regardless of score.

 

[DrJ]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

To me, that's the reason he'll opt in. I'd think this season, and now this injury, have really hurt his market value. Seems like it makes more sense to take the $16M, get his market value back up and do the UFA thing the following offseason.

He's going to get a max deal this offseason. It's not a question of if he will. NY/LA/Clev will offer him the max. Cleveland can offer ~$30 million more and a 5 year pact.Only reason he'd wait a season is to wait for the salary cap increase (and try getting more $$ that way)

I guess you could assume some GM would be stupid enough to give him a max deal if he opts out, but I'm skeptical.

Pretty much a done deal if that's the route he wants to go - look at what happened with Bosh. And he was playing like the same old Bosh when he wasn't asked to stand on the outside to open up space for Lebron and Wade. Love's the same player he was before this season (assuming this injury doesn't hinder that), he was just asked to play the Bosh role which he doesn't seem to like entirely.

 

[Jack White]

Really looking forward to this next game. Clips can let it all hang out. Would love to see a Game 7 in this series.

 

[sports_fan]

http://www.nbaplayoffsbracket.com/2015/index.php

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I guess the Bulls were done ####### around. Wow.

 

[sports_fan]

Damn Bucks didn't have a single player with double digit scoring.

 

[mcintyre1]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

Take it from a Twolves fan. He's gone.

 

[mcintyre1]

Why are you guys assuming Love is leaving? Really haven't gotten that impression here.

Pretty clear that he isn't happy with his role on the team.

How is it pretty clear? Haven't really seen that.

This is the annual tradition whereby DrJ swings by the NBA thread in the middle of the playoffs to poop on LeBron and whatever team he's on. Don't pay it any mind.

That said, I think most objective would say Love's situation in Cleveland is precarious. His role in the offense was limited, he's never looked very happy, he went from being widely considered one of the 10-15 best basketball players in the world to finishing 6th in All-Star balloting for the frontcourt in the watered-down East, 200,000 votes behind Marcin Gortat. There's plenty of reasons to think he might be interested in leaving.

I think most players want to win. Love never won anything in Minny. Why would he want to return to being "The Man" on a bad team over vying for titles with LeBron?

Yeah, most players only want to win. Kevin Love only really gives a #### about Kevin Love and how much respect Kevin Love gets. He looks for slights and lets them burrow into his mind, never letting them go. He can't ####### stand that he's the third fiddle on that team. Second? Yeah, even KLove's ego can step aside for an all-time great like Lebron, but I guarantee you Love isn't happy that Kyrie is more loved by the fans and more involved in the offense.

I'd bank on either the Lakers or Celtics next year.

 

[saintfool]

game seven in Clip Joint!

 

[Mister CIA]

Just want to share my 2cents here, NBA.com website is turrible.

 

[The General]

WTF is wrong with Steve Balmer. The guy is weeping.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's good that the announcers can laugh at a crucial missed travel call with 10 seconds left in a 2-point game.

 

[The General]

Diaw touched that first.

 

[scoobus]

Danny Green has been awful.

 

[Passenger]

It's good that the announcers can laugh at a crucial missed travel call with 10 seconds left in a 2-point game.

They're in on it too. Ballmer can afford some refs. They sure as hell ain't coaching their way to wins.

 

[tjnc09]

It's good that the announcers can laugh at a crucial missed travel call with 10 seconds left in a 2-point game.

If they are going to call that travel, have to call the foul beforehand.