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[dickey moe]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

You mean one of the two seasons the Rockets won in the absence of Jordan? Weren't the Rockets like a #6 seed one of those two seasons?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

They would have crushed the Gasol Lakers (not Shaq's) and likely the Pierce Celtics. SA from last year would be an amazing series.

Seriously crushed? I know Lebron is unbelievable but the rest of that team is a bunch of role players and they've gone to game 6.

A bunch of role players that play excellent D. Can you imagine Fisher and Kobe trying to guard Curry and Thompson? They would shred them. Gasol checking Barnes or Green? No chance. It wouldn't be close. LAs big advantage that season was their length. GS small ball would have ripped them apart.

Pierce Celtics would have had a much better chance IMO.

 

[Rubi]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

lol. What?

What I said. The winner of this series,imop,will be considered one of the worst teams to ever win a title. I'm sure there will be no shortage of talking heads talking about it.

 

[Jayrod]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

lol. What?

What I said. The winner of this series,imop,will be considered one of the worst teams to ever win a title. I'm sure there will be no shortage of talking heads talking about it.

Get a load of this ####### guy.

 

[Scoresman]

I was in Cancun for games 2-5, and the Mexican broadcasters are way better than whoever is doing the play by play here. They all have the excitability of Andres Cantor.

 

[thecatch]

Nuggets just hired Pete D'Alessandro AND Michael Malone. As a reminder, Pete just got pushed out of Sacramento for making a huge debacle out of forcing out Malone early in the season. Allow me a moment to bask in the fact that my favorite team isn't the only incompetently managed franchise in the Association.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Nuggets just hired Pete D'Alessandro AND Michael Malone. As a reminder, Pete just got pushed out of Sacramento for making a huge debacle out of forcing out Malone early in the season. Allow me a moment to bask in the fact that my favorite team isn't the only incompetently managed franchise in the Association.

Big fan of the Nugs being terrible next season

 

[Jack White]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.

Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.

Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

Until he quits on Cleveland again and goes somewhere to win another ring.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Donning a fire suit to read some of the HotSportsTakes in response to LeBron's "I am the best player in the world" quote.

Analytics side has pretty much awarded Finals MVP to LeBron win or lose; add Kevin Pelton to the group with his column today.

Talking heads side is still trying to say stuff like "now LeBron has to back up those words tomorrow night" and keep a straight face.

 

[Jack White]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.

Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

Until he quits on Cleveland again and goes somewhere to win another ring.

I think he's back for the rest of his career.

They should be the favorites in the East again next year. With a healthy Kevin and Kyrie, it will be an epic rematch.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Donning a fire suit to read some of the HotSportsTakes in response to LeBron's "I am the best player in the world" quote.

Analytics side has pretty much awarded Finals MVP to LeBron win or lose; add Kevin Pelton to the group with his column today.

Talking heads side is still trying to say stuff like "now LeBron has to back up those words tomorrow night" and keep a straight face.

Doc Walker made me want to punch my radio today. Or punch myself in the face until I was unconscious.

"When a 12th grader is on the court with 8th graders I expect to see him dominate. Bill Russel was a winner. If Lebron is all that how come he's not winning? He's a big strong guy doing what big strong guys do."

If Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith gave birth to a mentally challenged word salad it would still make more sense than Doc Walker.

Come to think of it, "mentally challenged word salad" describes the SAS & SB show pretty well. So I guess I'm wrong. Nothing makes less sense than First Take.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

Two weeks ago, I would have agreed.

However, them struggling this much to beat a Cavs team that is severely outmanned takes them down a few notches. Regardless of how awesome LBJ is, one of the better teams in NBA history would have won disposed of this Cavs team in 4.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.

Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

Until he quits on Cleveland again and goes somewhere to win another ring.

I think he's back for the rest of his career.

They should be the favorites in the East again next year. With a healthy Kevin and Kyrie, it will be an epic rematch.

Fully healthy Cavs win in 5, if not 4.

 

[Donkey Derp]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

Two weeks ago, I would have agreed.

However, them struggling this much to beat a Cavs team that is severely outmanned takes them down a few notches. Regardless of how awesome LBJ is, one of the better teams in NBA history would have won disposed of this Cavs team in 4.

I don't really agree with that. LeBron is phenomenal. It's hard to blow out a team that has a man who can give almost 40 points a game and 9 assists a game (~18+ additional points). Blatt also had a very good strategy defensively that seemed to disrupt GS offensive flow by daring anyone but Curry and Klay to beat them and it did work. But being a great "team" means you have the personnel and depth to adjust to your opponents and it looked like game 3 GS started to figure out where their biggest advantage was. They outscored Cleveland by 12 in the fourth quarter game 3 and beat them by 21 and 13 the last two games. Cleveland has tried different things (Mozgov big game 3, no Mozgov game 4) and it's not working. If GS wins game 6 by double digits, it's fair to say that Golden State really dominated this series. 4-2 isn't a sweep, but having enough players to adjust and handle your opponents by 10+ in three games means you have a really good, deep "team".

 

[Cliff Clavin]

LAC interested in trade for Stephenson. Guess they don't feel like they're hated enough.

 

[NutterButter]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.

Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

Until he quits on Cleveland again and goes somewhere to win another ring.

I think he's back for the rest of his career.

They should be the favorites in the East again next year. With a healthy Kevin and Kyrie, it will be an epic rematch.

Fully healthy Cavs win in 5, if not 4.

There is no way they would have gone with this same strategy if fully healthy.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

 

[Joe T]

Why Mozgov didn't play after the best game of his life is a mystery to me as well.

Blatt reacted to the Warriors instead of trying to dictate the match ups.

Exactly.Who is coaching the Cavs next year?

Same guy as this year . . . Lebron.

Until he quits on Cleveland again and goes somewhere to win another ring.

I think he's back for the rest of his career.They should be the favorites in the East again next year. With a healthy Kevin and Kyrie, it will be an epic rematch.

Fully healthy Cavs win in 5, if not 4.

You mean lose in 5, if not 4.

 

[Kev4029]

Nuggets just hired Pete D'Alessandro AND Michael Malone. As a reminder, Pete just got pushed out of Sacramento for making a huge debacle out of forcing out Malone early in the season. Allow me a moment to bask in the fact that my favorite team isn't the only incompetently managed franchise in the Association.

The Nuggets are the most incompetently managed team in sports right now.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

JoeT your shtick got tired around aught-7. Maybe if zippy and old hoss come back you can run it on them.

 

[Capella]

JoeT your shtick got tired around aught-7. Maybe if zippy and old hoss come back you can run it on them.

Ouch

 

[Ghost Rider]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

No. You don't rest the best player in the league for nearly half the regular reason. He missed 13 games and only played 36 minutes per game, so he was rested when the playoffs came around. The injuries to Love and Irving changed everything. The Cavs basically look like the 76ers out there when he is on the bench.

 

[MAC_32]

Bogut, a NBA second All-Defensive team player, is basically worthless now. I think that proves the opposite because the GS roster is that deep (yes, they still haven't won, but seems unlikely now they don't). Playoffs are a seven game series which allows for teams to adjust. Golden State so far has shown they have the personnel to construct a roster that Cleveland can't compete with and have dominated the last two games. Having that ability means you are really good, not really bad.

Golden State did not dominate game five.

 

[Gr00vus]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

 

[Joe T]

JoeT your shtick got tired around aught-7. Maybe if zippy and old hoss come back you can run it on them.

Keep us posted

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Hawes and Barnes for Stephenson had been agreed upon.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

Not likely. I don't think they'll have cap space unless they let TT, JR and Shump go too. Who would be better? LMA, Butler? That's about it.

 

[Gr00vus]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

Not likely. I don't think they'll have cap space unless they let TT, JR and Shump go too. Who would be better? LMA, Butler? That's about it.

Got it. So they're probably "stuck" with him if he opts in. What's your take though - would you keep him as the starting 4 or hand that over to Thompson?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

JoeT your shtick got tired around aught-7. Maybe if zippy and old hoss come back you can run it on them.

Ouch

That's gonna leave a mark.

 

[NutterButter]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

No. You don't rest the best player in the league for nearly half the regular reason. He missed 13 games and only played 36 minutes per game, so he was rested when the playoffs came around. The injuries to Love and Irving changed everything. The Cavs basically look like the 76ers out there when he is on the bench.

So you don't think that rest would help him come this time of the year? So when there's all this talk of him being worn down, it doesn't have to do with the regular season but just the playoffs? Its just strange b/c whether its lebron or other players, I constantly hear about the toll that playing back to backs during the regular season or playing for the olympic team has on these players. I naturally think that more rest would help.

 

[NutterButter]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

Why is he playing so much in the first round against a terrible celtics team that they swept? The schedule doesn't seem so horrible. He had 8 days off between rounds 1 & 2. Another 5 days off between 2 & 3. Round 3 wasn't that hard of another of sweep against not a very physical hawks team. Then there was another 7 days off before the finals.

 

[sports_fan]

If you're judging value, how could you possibly say that curry is more valuable to gsw than lebron is to the cavs? Golden state could win this without curry. Cleveland doesn't score 60 points if you take lebron out.

I agree LeBron's more valuable but the Warriors would get smoked without Curry.

 

[MAC_32]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

Not likely. I don't think they'll have cap space unless they let TT, JR and Shump go too. Who would be better? LMA, Butler? That's about it.

Got it. So they're probably "stuck" with him if he opts in. What's your take though - would you keep him as the starting 4 or hand that over to Thompson?

The Cavs made their bed with their trades, beginning with Love. The only asset left is Haywood's contract. Otherwise, this is it for the foreseeable future.I think Love and Tristan can compliment each other well next year, figure out rotations later though.

 

[MAC_32]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not. In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

Why is he playing so much in the first round against a terrible celtics team that they swept?

Ask LeBron.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

In future NBA player news, Team USA won the FIBA Americas U16 title. USA beat Canada in the gold medal game, 77-60, after trailing 19-3 at the end of the first quarter.

Gary Trent Jr, "Son Of The Shaq Of The MAC", led the USA U16s in scoring.

 

[Capella]

Gary Trent's son is 16??

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

Why is he playing so much in the first round against a terrible celtics team that they swept? The schedule doesn't seem so horrible. He had 8 days off between rounds 1 & 2. Another 5 days off between 2 & 3. Round 3 wasn't that hard of another of sweep against not a very physical hawks team. Then there was another 7 days off before the finals.

Initially probably due to the playoff inexperience of the other key players. Game 4 was his highest minutes after Love went down and JR ejected. Guessing those were "let's make sure we get this over with" minutes.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

Not likely. I don't think they'll have cap space unless they let TT, JR and Shump go too. Who would be better? LMA, Butler? That's about it.

Got it. So they're probably "stuck" with him if he opts in. What's your take though - would you keep him as the starting 4 or hand that over to Thompson?

I'd probably start both and then mix and match with Moz and Varejao off the bench.

 

[tommyGunZ]

In future NBA player news, Team USA won the FIBA Americas U16 title. USA beat Canada in the gold medal game, 77-60, after trailing 19-3 at the end of the first quarter.

Gary Trent Jr, "Son Of The Shaq Of The MAC", led the USA U16s in scoring.

Apple Valley HS got game, eh?

 

[Slapdash]

Hawes and Barnes for Stephenson had been agreed upon.

Well....at least they got something for Lance. He was terrible last year.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Bogut, a NBA second All-Defensive team player, is basically worthless now. I think that proves the opposite because the GS roster is that deep (yes, they still haven't won, but seems unlikely now they don't). Playoffs are a seven game series which allows for teams to adjust. Golden State so far has shown they have the personnel to construct a roster that Cleveland can't compete with and have dominated the last two games. Having that ability means you are really good, not really bad.

Golden State did not dominate game five.

Not really sure what game you were watching.

GS 48% from the field, CLE 39.5%

GS 46.2% 3PT, CLE 34.3%

GS 58.8% FT (34 attempts), CLE 71.4% (21 attempts)

GS OR 11, CLE OR 10

GS DR 32, CLE DR 27

GS 25 AST, CLE 17 AST

GS 16 TO, CLE 10 TO

Seems dominating to me or is the only category that you look at FT %?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

In future NBA player news, Team USA won the FIBA Americas U16 title. USA beat Canada in the gold medal game, 77-60, after trailing 19-3 at the end of the first quarter.

Gary Trent Jr, "Son Of The Shaq Of The MAC", led the USA U16s in scoring.

Apple Valley HS got game, eh?

They are having a nice run. it's a nice part of town near the MOA and several big employers, so it's a desirable place to live. There's some level of open enrollment in the Cities, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Trent Jr lived in-district.

Anyway, the kid already has offers from most of the Big Ten, and the rest of the country is discovering him - Duke is recruiting him as well.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

So are you saying that sitting 20 games during the regular season would have helped? I dont think they would have.

Lebron has been playing too many minutes right now. That takes a toll on your body. It is why marathon runners don't run lots of marathons to train for a marathon and they dont run as much the week or two leading up to it. He could have averaged 25 minutes a game in the three series before this and then averaging 46 minutes a game would have worn him down.

Instead of sitting Lebron for 20 games, they should focus on limiting the number of times he plays over 38 or whatever number it is that Lebron can handle. Clearly 46 is too much based on the number of possessions you see him take off the last couple games.

I get that without him out there they have looked lost, so he feels the need to play himself so much. That is kind of self fulfilling though, when he is in there he holds the ball and dribbles down the clock so much and then drives and kicks or shoots. If everything flows through him for 18 seconds of every possession, wtf do you expect them to do then when he is off the court? Play a team game all of a sudden?

 

[Jack White]

Curious to know what other people think. Lebron obviously puts a tremendous amount of wear and tear on his body going this deep into the playoffs year after year. Why not rest him more during the regular season and forfeit a few spots in the standings? He played 69 games during the regular season. Let's say he sits another 20 games and they lose 10 of those dropping them down to a 5th seed. So now you'll have on paper a more difficult playoff path, but I'd think a much fresher James. Or maybe play him strategically during the regular season against the tougher opponents expecting the rest of the squad to be able to handle the lesser opponents on their own.

I don't think it would help if he sat 20 games. Playing 46 minutes a game takes a toll on you whether you are rested or not.

In fact being the 5th or 6th seed could make him more worn down come finals time because you would have faced tougher opponents on your path and could end up playing 46 minutes a game in far more series.

He averaged 43, 41 and 38 min in the first 3 rounds, including the 2 other best teams in the east. With a healthy team he would never average anywhere near 46 a game. Probably not even in the finals.

I don't know, Jordan always played 42-46 minutes per game in the playoffs.

 

[Jack White]

Anyone thinking Cleveland might be better off without Love, assuming they could do something beneficial with the resulting cap space?

No way they're better off without Love.

You can never have too much talent.

 

[tommyGunZ]

The Love decision is going be extremely interesting.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Reeled back in here just to say that the Clippers have become no more likable with this deal, despite Matt Barnes and Spencer Hawes being incredibly unlikable.

Carry on.