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Titans 2018 (1 Viewer)

DGB stripped by McCourty, Bass grabs it for INT.

Hunter drops a pass.

Titans reporter "Hunter following DGBs bad play with an equally bad one himself"

Exactly what I've been saying. He is not getting a fair shake

 
BW Webb started for Brice McCain. I'm not sure when Cox sat, Riggs came in for him.

UDFA USC Woods started, Al Woods other team, (two starters), and second round pick Austin Johnson was the backup NT for USC Woods' side. 

(I have adopted someone else's phrasing of USC Woods, it helps with two Woods NTs battling)

There were a number of TDs called back due to penalty when they did red zone sessions. Starting in the red zone, there will be more TDs than a common game. However, it appears to me there were nine touchdown runs and I'm concerned of it. Last year teams could run up the middle with ease and I'm not getting a vibe that that is one bit better.

There's some debate if Henry had 3 TDs or 4 TDs. I count three by live tweets. He was very impressive. He shouldn't be "heisman-like" against an NFL defense. 

 
Wright's out for another two weeks or so with fluid build up in his hamstring, McBride and  :X  Douglas getting reps in the slot. Sharpe is still being praised. Not a word on Hunter today.

Daimion Stafford pushing Searcy and getting snaps with the ones

Woods running with the second unit over the third round pick whose name I have forgotten

 
Wright's out for another two weeks or so with fluid build up in his hamstring, McBride and  :X  Douglas getting reps in the slot. Sharpe is still being praised. Not a word on Hunter today.

Daimion Stafford pushing Searcy and getting snaps with the ones

Woods running with the second unit over the third round pick whose name I have forgotten
Mularkey said he just wanted to see Stafford, not a knock on Searcy

Wyatt wrote Antwuan Woods running with first team. He tweeted Antwaun running with second team over Austin Johnson(2nd round pick) then in the article, Mularkey praised USC Woods' consistency.

ETA The article has been edited, now they both say second team

 
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Mularkey said he just wanted to see Stafford, not a knock on Searcy

Wyatt wrote Antwuan Woods running with first team. He tweeted Antwaun running with second team over Austin Johnson(2nd round pick) then in the article, Mularkey praised USC Woods' consistency.

ETA The article has been edited, now they both say second team
MSommer, when I looked again, Mularkey was hypocritical. Sorry. He first said they were just giving Stafford some time and later said he is pushing him. I didn't realize he said both

 
Can't wait until first game against the Vikes. They are a top ten defense a big test for Mariota and the offense.
They've performed very well, somewhat out of character even, in recent week ones.

They need to show(didn't in scrimmage) that they aren't pushovers up the middle or ADP will eat them right up. They are very strong on the outside, that's going to be an issue all year.

Teams don't even or haven't even played the Titans honestly. The Titans send a weak NT or a weak CB onto the field and they just go after em'. This could/should be the first year in a while that teams simply play the game.

 
Can't wait to hear Bri's insight on the offense (especially MM and DH) as preseason ramps up.
Thank you.

Whisenhunt would say one thing and do another, so I'm anxious to see what happens in these games. Derrick Henry supposedly looked phenomenal against their bad run defense in the scrimmage- everyone is still gushing about it. I want to see it for myself. They just let DeMarco put his toe in the water and barely played him and constantly say he is the assured starter. I saw a comment "DeMarco Murray isn't THAT good." He isn't phenomenal. I can roll with that, but let's see how it goes against a real defense. 

Mularkey's QBs have always thrown for about the same amount of yards regardless of where he's been. I'd have to look it up again, but Mariota can be chalked up for those stats. They're pretty good as is

 
If there is a single WR core in the entire NFL I don't want to touch, besides the 49ers, it has to be the Titans. I have no idea who is going to produce on a weekly basis here. 

 
Thank you.

Whisenhunt would say one thing and do another, so I'm anxious to see what happens in these games. Derrick Henry supposedly looked phenomenal against their bad run defense in the scrimmage- everyone is still gushing about it. I want to see it for myself. They just let DeMarco put his toe in the water and barely played him and constantly say he is the assured starter. I saw a comment "DeMarco Murray isn't THAT good." He isn't phenomenal. I can roll with that, but let's see how it goes against a real defense. 

Mularkey's QBs have always thrown for about the same amount of yards regardless of where he's been. I'd have to look it up again, but Mariota can be chalked up for those stats. They're pretty good as is
I am wondering if we see Mariota run more than we did last year. Over a 16 game season, he projected to 336 yards which was still less than Aaron Rodgers and barely more than Blake Bortles. That was a big surprise to me. I would have expected closer to a 500 yard Alex Smith like season. 

 
Rashad Johnson is probably delusional

But I like the attitude.

The Tennessee Titans won a combined five games over the past two seasons. The franchise has owned the No. 2 and No. 1 overall picks in the past two drafts, respectively. Nashville natives haven't seen their team win the division since 2008.

With a rising star in Marcus Mariota, a "smashmouth" brand of power football that could take advantage of smaller opposing schemes and an underrated defense, could the Titans finally be on the rise?

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New safety Rashad Johnson told NFL Network's Good Morning Football on Thursday that he believes the Titans have a chance for a quick turnaround in a wide open AFC South.

"I mean this is a new team. 2014, 2015, no disrespect to their mindset, but this team has a new mindset, we have some new pieces here, new guys that understand what it takes to win, veterans guys on the team," Johnson said. "We are going to take it a day at a time. We're not going to go out here and promise these people a Super Bowl, but what they're going to get is a team that's going out each and every day, getting better each and every day and has a true opportunity to win this division. It's up for grabs. No true team owns this division. And we believe we're going to be the team at the top when it's all said and done."

It's certainly true that no team has a stranglehold on the AFC South. Each roster is littered with holes.

The Houston Texans, last year's winner, are breaking in a new quarterback, has a disgruntled No. 1 receiver, J.J. Watt -- the team's best player -- remains banged up and the defensive front has serious question marks. The Indianapolis Colts are counting on a bounce-back season from Andrew Luck, but even if the offense returns to form, the defense enters the season with troubling issues, from a lack of playmakers to quality depth. The Jaguars have amassed immense talent, but can those young players form a cohesive winner behind Blake Bortles and a defense lacking cohesive experience?

 
The Titans own their own problems. Mariota's receiving corps is littered with inconsistent and unproven players. The offensive line must rebound from a porous campaign. Tennessee is counting on a bounce-back season from DeMarco Murray -- who last we saw ran like an upright piano was strapped to his back -- and a power-back rookie in the backfield.

Johnson reiterated that those stumbling blocks aren't enough to relegate Tennessee to rebuilding afterthought.

"The goal is this year," he said when asked when the Titans could realistically challenge for the division title. "I don't think it's far-fetched to say we that can't win this division this year. A lot of people think when you change coaches it takes a couple years. I mean we changed coaches in Arizona and we won 10 games, one game away from being in the playoffs. So, I mean it's not farfetched to get it done in this season."

The main difference in Johnson's comparison between his former Cardinals and current Titanssituation is that coach Mike Mularkey is no Bruce Arians. Even before getting a deserved shot as a coach, Arians coordinated some of the best offenses in the NFL in Pittsburgh and Indianapolis. Mularkey has been a part of some of the worst offenses in the NFL as a coordinator and head coach.

With a franchise quarterback like Mariota, a quick turnaround is always possible, but we remain skeptical the rest of the pieces will fall into place for that reversal of fortunes to happen in 2016.
As Kevin Patra I am sceptical of Mularkey's ability. But other head coaches have managed to improve in their later opportunities.

Most likley scenario IMHO is a top ten pick and a new coach next year. I sincerely hope they will do better that that. But if not, I'll take a new HC and another year of Robinson's moves and shakes

 
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The thing is that Mularkey was the HC last season after Wiz was fired. The team went 2-7 under Mularkey which was twice as good as they were under Wiz I guess 1-6.

Mularkey has been with the team since 2014 moving from the TE coach to the OC in 2015 then HC last season and the team hasn't been good. Just seems wrong to act like things will be significantly different or this is a new coaching staff. We could look at the splits for games with MM as the HC compared to the games with Wiz, but MM was the OC in 2015, he certainly had some impact on the scheme and how things were being taught.

I do think there is a difference as far as the use of 3 WR (like most of the NFL uses more than other personnel groupings) compared to 2 TE or 1 TE 1 FB. I believe there will be fewer 3 WR sets under Mularkey. So that changes things somewhat. It is still Mularkey though so most of the organizational and fundamentals will be the same as last season. 

Mariota having some experience now should help. An improved running game due to Murray/Henry should help. I just don't think things will be much different compared to last season as they would be under a new coaching staff.

 
I am wondering if we see Mariota run more than we did last year. Over a 16 game season, he projected to 336 yards which was still less than Aaron Rodgers and barely more than Blake Bortles. That was a big surprise to me. I would have expected closer to a 500 yard Alex Smith like season. 
Definitely.

It's well written about that it is part of the offense. He's been practicing slides and getting out of bounds most days, if not every day. I don't know that there's another NFL QB as fast as Mariota, but the Titans had Jake Locker and Vince Young recently. The Titans have more experience with running QBs than I think most people realize. Both Young and Locker (probably from college coach) were way better runners as rookies. They had a purpose and got to the first.

The Titans messed both them up by creating running plays for them. They weren't like that. They were ad-libbers that took advantage of a lazy D or a broken play. The Vikes messed Daunte up the same way. In fact, the run plays really put them "in harm's way."

There are some Mariota running plays. There are. I haven't heard of them running them much. It sounds more like a play for a rainy day, similar to last year where he maybe ran 6-7 times on a play call. Most everything from camp and OTAs is "No one is open, take off."

Mister perfect has been ridden by the coaches as OTAs and TC began. His brain tells him to push the envelope and they want the slide. Live to play another play isn't PC so now it's play to play another play. 

Heimerdinger was a genius OC, the last good OC they had. When Henry was on the radio, he mentioned 'Dinger. When Murray has been on the radio, he's discussed shifting to the TE and slot even. As OC, Dinger used pre-snap movement to set up mismatches and let the QB see who was matched up with whom. Last summer and the first few games, they did this and did it well. (And Mariota did well) If Mariota can see that a team's 3 LBs are matched up with the RB, FB, and TE, he could be off to the races. They DO feel that Delanie and Henry are better athletes than most that would cover them, so it could also be not about Mariota running but simply getting a favorable matchup for a big guy.

This is important. Mariota does have the ability to call his own plays this preseason. If all goes well, he will keep this in the regular season. 

They have had arguably the worst two offensive coordinators ever in Loggains and Michael the last four years. Robiskie seems to get hired by every losing team. He's never been the problem but he also doesn't have a great record as an OC. He is respected around the league which is considerable when you think of how bad his Os were at times. Bratkowski, the WR coach, has a nice reputation for play calls himself. Their O was created by those two and Mularkey. Their scripted offense each week will be by those three each week. Jason Michael is still there as the QB coach but Brat was working with Mariota recently, so I'm not even sure that he truly has that role. They wanted Mariota to have a familiar face, but I think as time goes by he's getting silenced. You're basically going to see the first decent offense in 5 years for the Titans. 

After some presnap movement to the left, Mariota called a naked bootleg to the right and scored in their scrimmage. Genius! But as someone on the radio pointed out- what if it wasn't there? They had a crowd on the left and he'd never have been able to make a play. TDs as scoring plays do not end in tackles. He knows this and he's working within  Mularkey's "don't get tackled" rule. 

They're really trying to incorporate the deep ball this year. Mariota's play calling ability was instilled for that maybe most of all. Their smashmouth style should make a safety cheat to help with the run. If he sees it, he's sending is WR deep. What I have never heard of in the last four years is, the line adjusts too. I'm not sure exactly how, but they too are readying to buy MM time to throw deep. 

Robinson is a New England boy. Brady throws a ton of snap N throws. Cassel did and he's with the Titans now. Mariota in college threw a ton of snap N throws. (call it whatever ya want) Last year as the season opened, you could see that they had Baylor's coach there incorporating these plays as Mariota did quite a few the first couple games. It's a simple theory of getting the CB to play closer to the WR so the WR can then burn him the next play and also taking the easy 3-4 yards because the CB is well off of a player. The Titans only have Wright that will strike fear in a D where they back off. IF something changes, then sure Hunter and DGB will command this. They're way too tall and fast to let get behind you. Matthews and Sharpe are slower, more calculated possession guys. I don't see this being done much if they're in there. 

McBride's sudden resurgence- Have you seen the videos of him at the LOS in drills or plays? He has a wow explosive first step. He could earn that respect where a D backs off. 

Mariota needs his guy. It could just be Delanie, but he really needs to fall in love with a WR like Favre to Sharpe/Driver or Kelly to Reed or Montana to Rice or Aikman to Irvin etc The Titans are really best suited (and maybe the first team ever) to NOT have anyone be a star. The best case scenario for them would be to have six WRs and they all play equally. End of the year, they each have 500 yards. They'd be fresh and they all create different matchup issues. This doesn't happen in the NFL world. It should though. Today it looks possible that Hunter is either cut or getting like 100 yards on the season as their 6th WR and barely playing. It looks like DGB will be 5th(hard to tell) and maybe get 150 yards. McBride who is showing up oh so well, will be about shut down as a KR. They almost have more potential sitting than they would playing. I'm almost sad about McBride. He is doing so well and that'll probably translate to a great preseason against third stringers and then what? 16 weeks of "Hey nice kick return." I don't know how Andre impacts DGB just yet, but if he's 4th and called for "big guy" situations and doing well, that totally takes away what DGB does well. We can do this dance with everyone of the WRs. The Titans and Packers this year are the deepest WR corps I have seen in decades. Most teams have 3 WRs contribute significantly, the run N shoot days had four. For each team, that means two or three good looking young talents are doing squat. There is this foolish notion (I've had it too) where we think the fourth WR will sub in and be a key sub contributing a bunch. It is a sound, realistic, logical theory, but find me one at PFR that contributed significantly and had decent stats without an injury to the first three.

Now let me "break your back" with some simple math. 500/16=31. How come at PFR you can't find a slew of 4th and 5th NFL WRs that had 31 stinkin yards per game and got 500 yards. It's just 31 yards! 3 catches? 2?

Titans fans are really choking on the fact that the lower end WRs won't do squat this year. It's gonna be brutal. What they have isn't normal. TZ and Roberts and McBride. That should be the final three spots on a normal-ish WR corps. Theoretically, they should trade a few in a fire sale and try to get some subs elsewhere on the team. It's also not normal to have three RBs with starter experience as their 4th, 5th, and 6th options. They could trade all three RBs and no one would blink. How much are they gonna play with McCluster owning 3rd down? In preseason, each of them should dominate against the opposing 3rd and 4th string Ds. If Cobb runs for 200 yards in the fourth quarter against the Chargers 3rd and 4th string defense, he is still not getting in over any of the top three.

Fluellen- technically 6th and Sankey is 7th. Now that's a typical NFL 4th RB right there. Hustle guy, great effort and mindset, willing to do whatever coach asks, plays special teams and could hop on and off the PS. 

I can do the same WR thought with Cobb or Andrews or Sankey. Can't they take a few carries so Murray can get a breather? Cobb and Andrews are hard-nosed guys, why not let them grind out a 3rd and one rather than Murray absorb a huge hit. Andrews is probably a better blocker than Henry, how about he picks up the blitz on 2nd and 14 and Henry rests. For the first time in 100 years, they've finally got a big lead in the fourth Q. How about Sankey closes the game and "we" keep Henry and Murray healthy and don't risk them to injury? You surely can create a scenario where 5 or 6 RBs would be nice on Sunday. It won't happen though. Three, just three.

I absolutely blame Whisenhunt for the lack of development of young players. This is the situation they are in now though. We'll be choking down good talent cut and then good talent on the sideline too

 
Josue Matias was allowed to sit with tendinitis. That's not usually a sitting thing, he must've earned that with the expectation they want to see him Saturday.

Mularkey said Andre Johnson is expected to be limited all preseason. Oh no no no no no NO!!! How will they know if he fades like Nicks if he isn't playing a bunch? There's not many padded practices left. I don't like it.

ETA Now Matias is sitting Saturday and won't play. Also Mularkey has allowed McCluster to take a few days personal leave.  

What are they doing here? Did someone slip Mularkey some happy pills? 

 
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Derrick Henry took on a defender and the sound of the collision was so loud that half the world tweeted it...give or take a few people

 
Josue Matias was allowed to sit with tendinitis. That's not usually a sitting thing, he must've earned that with the expectation they want to see him Saturday.

Mularkey said Andre Johnson is expected to be limited all preseason. Oh no no no no no NO!!! How will they know if he fades like Nicks if he isn't playing a bunch? There's not many padded practices left. I don't like it.
Hasn't he always been lazy in preseason? Or am I misremembering. 

Oh and that long ### post above, damn Bri, that must have taken ages to compose. Re the WR logjam, this is why I hate the Johnson signing. And still having Douglas around. For eff's sake, cut some people if you are not going to play or develop them

 
Hasn't he always been lazy in preseason? Or am I misremembering. 

Oh and that long ### post above, damn Bri, that must have taken ages to compose. Re the WR logjam, this is why I hate the Johnson signing. And still having Douglas around. For eff's sake, cut some people if you are not going to play or develop them
Yeah probably as some pampered player in Houston, but he hasn't done squat here. He shouldn't get that benefit.

Heh, thankfully no. I write for Cover32, Yahoo and FoxSports now. Typing speed is pretty high write now.

Exactly. I wrote that Hunter should run with the ones for a week while Wright is out, make a decision and move on...people didn't like that. I don't see a role for Douglas if McBride has stepped up and Matthews and Sharpe can play the slot well. Just move on. 11 WRs is too much

 
Good stuff Bri in regards to having Mariota possibly run the ball more this season. That makes sense and kind of what I was expecting more of last season.

Also interesting that Murray and Henry may be used as flex TE options. Sounds like something Mularkey would do. Henry especially may be very well suited for that.

Andre Johnson is a good blocker. Maybe that is what he is here for?

If things are going well they should be in the base offense a lot. So that is kind of where I see WR mixing in, is on 1st downs, with different groups in later downs.

 
In regards to the Vikings having the QB sell out for extra yardage instead of sliding, you are right about that. The Vikings did a study that found no increased incidence of QB being injured when moving forward, than there were when the QBs slide.

Now I didn't find the study to be very convincing. But the data supported their claim. It may have just been a rationalization for having Christian Ponder fight for extra yards. Ponder was better at running the ball than reading a defense, so that may have influenced their decision about this.

As far as Culpepper with Denny there were not that many designed runs for him. Most of his runs were on scramble drills after he held the ball too long. Culpepper was fearless in regards to the pass rush, I think he took a lot of unnecessary hits because of his confidence to bounce off of tackles and keep the play alive. When Culpepper would run, he would often win at the point of contact. He was kind of like Christian Okoye running the ball.

I don't think Norv shares the same philosophy in regards to Bridgewater. There are times when Bridgewater could have easily run for the 1st down but he tries to make a play downfield anyways. The most egregious instance of this being on 3rd down and only a couple yards.. it was right there and he easily could have got out of bounds before a defender could get to him after getting the 1st down as well.

Last season Bridgewater was hit in the head while sliding after a run against the Rams. He had to leave the game and Hill finished it. Thankfully Bridgewater was able to play in the next game, because Hill is not very good.

You can get hurt sliding too. Especially against a Greg Williams coached defense. 

 
Predictions for week 1 of preseason...whatcha got?

My guesses-

Hunter doesn't play much and yet another reason to figure he's done

Derrick Henry does so very well, everyone discusses him after this game

DGB dominates 2nd or 3rd string CBs 

Kalan Reed does very well and stirs up the Mr Irrelevant talk

Sankey fumbles and his Titans career is considered over.

Titans don't allow much rushing production when USC Woods is in and Whis keeps calling plays running right at him. 

Tanney leads NFL in passing in preseason since neither Cassel nor Mariota are expected to play a lot and all their WRs need looks.

 
Any thoughts on the game?
I was coming in for your thoughts, actually. I was out driniking all day yday so haven't seen a single snap.

Tre McBride returning kicks and punts is a good sign they are going to keep him, assuming he does not fumble or do other stupid stuff. His kickoff return average seems ok, punt returns a bit anemic. extremely small sample size. Still, no one else got a shot at this in the game.

Douglas one reception for 2 yards but apparently blocked well for Murray on his TD run. Maybe that's why he's still there.

Andre Johnson one reception from Matt Cassel - overpriced for a second team player. The team only needs one veteran presence - so him or Douglas? Johnson is only there so he can get his 40 receptions or so and move to third on the list after Rice and TO I think. Stat whore.

 
Honestly I think AJ just doesn't want to retire.  Maybe he's looking at stats but moreso simply he thinks he can still play.  I think he's wrong and should retire but that's easier for us to say than him to do. 

 
I was coming in for your thoughts, actually. I was out driniking all day yday so haven't seen a single snap.

Tre McBride returning kicks and punts is a good sign they are going to keep him, assuming he does not fumble or do other stupid stuff. His kickoff return average seems ok, punt returns a bit anemic. extremely small sample size. Still, no one else got a shot at this in the game.

Douglas one reception for 2 yards but apparently blocked well for Murray on his TD run. Maybe that's why he's still there.

Andre Johnson one reception from Matt Cassel - overpriced for a second team player. The team only needs one veteran presence - so him or Douglas? Johnson is only there so he can get his 40 receptions or so and move to third on the list after Rice and TO I think. Stat whore.
I wrote a short novel here http://sports.yahoo.com/news/titans-game-thoughts-preseason-week-073649987.html

Yep I agree. McBride probably made it over Douglas. I barely saw him and to make such a big deal of his block was surprising. I like the McBride deep, Henry short kick return look but I don't know if that's so good for special teams. I've seen two spread out so long, it seems odd. McCluster is probably the PR. Day before Mularkey said he only wanted to get him 8 plays.

I loved how Fowler blocked. Antonio Andrews made a great special teams tackle the next play after Sankey scored. Cobb totally missed out on this night of feasts for RBs

 
Predictions for week 1 of preseason...whatcha got?

My guesses-

Hunter doesn't play much and yet another reason to figure he's done

Derrick Henry does so very well, everyone discusses him after this game

DGB dominates 2nd or 3rd string CBs 

Kalan Reed does very well and stirs up the Mr Irrelevant talk

Sankey fumbles and his Titans career is considered over.

Titans don't allow much rushing production when USC Woods is in and Whis keeps calling plays running right at him. 

Tanney leads NFL in passing in preseason since neither Cassel nor Mariota are expected to play a lot and all their WRs need looks.
Hunter prediction was right. He tripped, ball no where near him sooooo far downfield and Mularkey claimed it was thrown to him and used this as him being inconsistent. One trip...unreal.

Henry good

Awww Reed, should have said Byard

USC Woods and Johnson were wayyyy better than Al Woods

 
You may recall I wrote often about Josue Matias last year(wouldn't shut up about, is a fine way to word it) as their line struggled and he was sitting on the PS after a nice preseason.

He played LT friday with the second unit and Poutasi played RG in his place. It's coming out that he did very well.

Having really owned the 2nd team RG spot all offseason, if he can be the backup T too, then some former draft pick is getting cut. 


Josue Matias was allowed to sit with tendinitis. That's not usually a sitting thing, he must've earned that with the expectation they want to see him Saturday.

Mularkey said Andre Johnson is expected to be limited all preseason. Oh no no no no no NO!!! How will they know if he fades like Nicks if he isn't playing a bunch? There's not many padded practices left. I don't like it.

ETA Now Matias is sitting Saturday and won't play. Also Mularkey has allowed McCluster to take a few days personal leave.  

What are they doing here? Did someone slip Mularkey some happy pills? 
I knew the tendinitis was not true. Torn Patella going to IR.

Not just that, Spain played backup T, Mularkey said they're probably going to have to replace him on the WW.

Ya think maybe you could have played the guy if he's such a big deal to replace? Geeeeesh

 
Notice Poutasi isn't even mentioned, last year's starting RT. Also Poehls has been with the team two years.

(on if Josue Matias had a good shot at earning the third tackle spot)

He was playing well. The one thing about Josue (Matias) was he was versatile, he can play guard, he can play tackle. He was playing better and better at left tackle as we went along. He was one of our most improved guys that came from the offseason.

(on who the next tackle up is)

Well Tyler (Marz) out there, he again has improved. We moved Quinton (Spain) out there to get some reps at left tackle. We have some options, Jack (Conklin) can always go over there when we are talking regular season if we had to. We have some options and again we are still looking at the waiver wire trying to see who is available daily.

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Now don't keep Poehls or Poutasi. Strive for better. Trade, waiver wire, create one in Madden, anything. If they've been there this long and they aren't suited to play then go get one!

 
Text from me- "How come Matias is not on IR yet"

Reply "Injury settlement"

He costs next to nothing and they have tons of cap room...so ridiculous to get rid of a lineman that now Whis and Mularkey have complimented. It's so rare for a Titans lineman to get a compliment, ya don't even need to analyze this. Ugh. Such a "shoot self in foot" move. I hope his agent can talk them out of it.

 
Text from me- "How come Matias is not on IR yet"

Reply "Injury settlement"

He costs next to nothing and they have tons of cap room...so ridiculous to get rid of a lineman that now Whis and Mularkey have complimented. It's so rare for a Titans lineman to get a compliment, ya don't even need to analyze this. Ugh. Such a "shoot self in foot" move. I hope his agent can talk them out of it.
It doesn't void the contract to go on IR, does it?

 
It doesn't void the contract to go on IR, does it?
Nope. They pay it like normal.

ETA Injury settlement is partial salary and waiver. IR= full contract and with team next year

 
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DGB to Philly for G/T

Philadelphia's wild offseason continues.

The team announced the acquisition of former Titans second-round pick Dorial Green-Beckham via trade Tuesday. The cost? 2012 fifth-round pick Dennis Kelly, a swing guard tackle who started two games for the Eagles a year ago. Kelly should add depth and competition to a budding bully of an offensive line in Nashville.

The deal seemingly came out of nowhere, though the tea leaves would suggest head coach Doug Pederson was desperate to find more wideouts who fit his system all offseason - and the Titans were looking for the right chance to bail on the Green-Beckham experiment. As NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport noted, Philadelphia was hot on the trail of free agent Anquan Boldin before losing him to the Lions. Green-Beckham, a mercurial but incredibly talented second-year receiver, turned out to be an intriguing backup plan for the right price.

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"Not to speak on Philly's behalf but they inquired about it," Titansgeneral manager Jon Robinson said. "They thought it was a good opportunity for him, and we thought adding Dennis would be good for our football team. We are moving on. I appreciate everything Dorial did when he was here. He bought in to what we were trying to do. But in the end we felt like this was the best decision for the team."

The push for wide receiver talent was exacerbated by a less-than-encouraging preseason opener. The team had hoped that formerGiants second-round pick Rueben Randle would finally hit his stride as an Eagle, but there were few indications of a turnaround against Tampa Bay. At the moment, Jordan Matthews was the only reliable set of hands on the roster and he's currently sidelined with a knee injury. Nelson Agholor, the team's 2015 first-round pick, still has a long way to go.

The move is not without risk for the Eagles. According to NFL Media's Mike Garafolo, the Titans had issues with Green-Beckham's focus and dedication. Head coach Mike Mularkey had a front row seat to some off Green-Beckham's finest moments during that rookie season, but also witnessed enough mental errors to pull the plug.

Green-Beckham finished 2015 with 32 catches for 549 yards and four touchdowns a year ag
Didn't see that one coming. Anyone know anything about Kelly? With the loss of Matias I suppose it fills a need, and makes sense to get in ahead of the cuts to get a young guy, and he is cheap this year and next (760K in 2016, 880 in 2016) with nothing guaranteed.

And so they were ten. Five more to go (maybe only four). HD has got to be gone. Who else?

Overall good news fo rthe other youngsters

Are they shopping Hunter?

 
The DGB trade cost just under 600K in dead cap this year and just under 1.2 next. in terms of salaries it is more or less a wash. This is peanuts

 
I never considered DGB being traded from Tennessee as a possibility but it makes a ton of sense after the fact. Just based on how he's trending and how his coaches handled him

 
Wtf, really?  Not a big fan of this move... I'd rather they traded Hunter.
Maybe he has no trade value - or didn't fit with Philly's needs, was too expensive or what not.

Plenty of reasons to prefer one over the other

 
msommer said:
DGB to Philly for G/T

Didn't see that one coming. Anyone know anything about Kelly? With the loss of Matias I suppose it fills a need, and makes sense to get in ahead of the cuts to get a young guy, and he is cheap this year and next (760K in 2016, 880 in 2016) with nothing guaranteed.

And so they were ten. Five more to go (maybe only four). HD has got to be gone. Who else?

Overall good news fo rthe other youngsters

Are they shopping Hunter?
Eagles fan here, Kelly isn't good.

 
maf005 said:
I never considered DGB being traded from Tennessee as a possibility but it makes a ton of sense after the fact. Just based on how he's trending and how his coaches handled him
No it doesn't.  Terrible move trading off a guy you just drafted in the second who was known to be raw.  Not sure how it can be looked at any other way.  Titans have crap at wr and just traded off their second round wr for a garbage ol

 
No it doesn't.  Terrible move trading off a guy you just drafted in the second who was known to be raw.  Not sure how it can be looked at any other way.  Titans have crap at wr and just traded off their second round wr for a garbage ol
makes a ton of sense, meaning trading him is significant in the range of possible outcomes. Not that I think it's the correct decision

positive vs normative etc

 
The DGB trade cost just under 600K in dead cap this year and just under 1.2 next. in terms of salaries it is more or less a wash. This is peanuts
Salary goes with him though. Regardless the Titans are so far under the cap, it's not like they're a normal team

 
As I mentioned in the other thread- I threw up in my mouth yesterday when Harry Douglas was first replacing DGB in practice. Tweets of Hunter doing well totally changed that. Him pushing Sharpe and McBride into the slot was just fantastic to read.

After first team reps, they do second team with a mixture of ones. It was then. I don't mean to suggest Hunter bumped anyone permanently. One day, one practice.

Byard had two interceptions yesterday of Cassel. Good job rook. Still concerned that he stinks and what happens when Mariota gets hurt.

USC Woods replaced Al Woods a bunch. Al Woods went in with the fourth team- so first and fourth. Big demotion could be happening there.

Fascinating to listen to draft people discuss Tyler Marz. It is very possible he is better than Kelly and the Eagle doesn't make the team. Again, Marz had a horrific combine and pro day but he had a long college career that included shutting down some very good high profile pass rushers. The bottom line discussion seems to be Marz is far better in pass protection and Kelly better at run blocking. It's hurt too much to watch the bad pass protection so I'd prefer Marz if this holds true. 

Poutasi is definitely down to third string after allowing three pass rushers to go by him with ease in week one. It's pathetic considering the second stringer went to IR and the Eagle didn't even practice. 

The backup LT now is Spain, Spain would go in at LT and Schwenke would play LG. This makes Marz a bit of third string not truly second. Mularkey said Conklin could play LT sure, but Spain is very familiar there and it would shake things up the least.

The Titans released their depth chart with zero updates and DGB on it, yet they called it a week two updated depth chart. I found that rude in a minor way.

Dodd still hasn't practiced but will play in week three. I could not be more curious. Heck I wonder if Steelers fans are. The idea of a very talented college player becoming a Lebeau weapon playing DE and OLB is really intriguing 

 
No it doesn't.  Terrible move trading off a guy you just drafted in the second who was known to be raw.  Not sure how it can be looked at any other way.  Titans have crap at wr and just traded off their second round wr for a garbage ol
He wasn't traded for being raw, it's that he wasn't giving effort.  DHB was far more raw but the Raiders gave him a long leash because he had tremendous work ethic and wasn't a locker room cancer.

 
cstu said:
He wasn't traded for being raw, it's that he wasn't giving effort.  DHB was far more raw but the Raiders gave him a long leash because he had tremendous work ethic and wasn't a locker room cancer.
That's not true. Mularkey even said how he stayed late every day. He just wasn't picking it up and Mularkey wanted him to stay even later. Effort and work ethic was definitely there

 

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