Falcons radio discussion comparing Casey Washington having a day against a top secondary and Ayomanor struggling against the Falcons. "One of them is playing ball. The other needs to. It's just that simple. He was looking at Bates not the ball. I mean a few times too."
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Titans Wide Receivers 2025 (2 Viewers)
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@GregoryLKellogg
Footballguy
I missed Jahquan in here.
He had some good returns and had a day on ST.
Like Oliver and DMR and Restrepo also like last year, coach put him with the ones to get thru a bad time. That's a huge uptick for him as he had fallen near the bottom of the depth chart.
The Falcons had trouble with the speedy little bugger and he had a few catches from Ward.
(He was in the doghouse for fumbled punts but before that a pleasant surprise last year)
Radio is talking about accountability and when things get tough AND that the coach is ripe to lose his job....all that, who do you keep at WR and who is active?
One guy said ideally ya run with Jahquan and put Dike on the PS. Ya got a return guy and Lockett's backup and maybe a spark you can plug in on offense.
NFL doesn't work that way- Dike would be claimed instantly.
More discussion maybe Ayomanor gets on the PS until he learns to play tough with the DBs and to be the gunner they need him to be. Can't do that either.
So how do they get through having two not ready rookies?
And fair point...there's no patience left for Restrepo. It is what it is. He has to do a role. There won't be a third questionable WR that partially can.
Soooo
One caller said keep the rookies inactive. Make em angry or hungry. Let Oliver be the main sub. Keep Jefferson. Have Jahquan returning kicks. Week four, expect they're ready to go, and no one in the league will blink if they cut Jefferson and Jahquan then.
This was discarded as no team does that or would do that, but heh it's not a bad idea. I mean the guy has a point and I don't have any idea (two is a big number when you keep 4-6) how they get through and show patience.
The work on the side. They stay late. They're putting the work in just not ready.
The coach's job and not being the GMs choice and possibly looking not ready. That is kind of significant here.
Thanks GK
Ayomanor made a tough catch. Defender on his side all over him and he fought and one handed it.
It fired everyone up and he had his best day after that.
Maybe that was the moment he needed?
TD has Proche with a bunch of catches so he popped up again.
Some Falcons fans want Jahquan so he must have had two good days. The kid is either too late or peaking at the perfect time. Monkey wrench vibe
It fired everyone up and he had his best day after that.
Maybe that was the moment he needed?
TD has Proche with a bunch of catches so he popped up again.
Some Falcons fans want Jahquan so he must have had two good days. The kid is either too late or peaking at the perfect time. Monkey wrench vibe
Falcons coach was very nice. Full of praise for most every young player and they're an up n coming team type vibe.
Zero prob with him. It was good natured and professional but in the middle of watching it's like ugh we're gonna stink again.
It was kinda interesting. He didn't say a bad word and yet...
Zero prob with him. It was good natured and professional but in the middle of watching it's like ugh we're gonna stink again.
It was kinda interesting. He didn't say a bad word and yet...
@GregoryLKellogg
Footballguy
So did anyone watch all of the games this week. I was wondering about Roman Wilson. How did he look? Is he gonna be the wide receiver too, as I suspect?
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Wrong topic. This is for TEN WR's. Roman is with PIT. And he already has his own thread here.
@GregoryLKellogg
Footballguy
Sorry. Thanks. I’ll check over there tomorrow.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
sometimes rookies are rookies and it takes time to adjust. Have faith
Jim Wyatt wrote-
Most of the starting jobs on the football team have been solidified by now, but roster spots are still up for grabs as we edge closer to roster cuts. James Williams Sr. played well at inside linebacker in Tampa, but Cedric Gray got some work with the first team in practices in Atlanta. The team is looking to establish a pecking order at receiver, depth at a number of positions, and more and it's getting late.
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I suspect the Titans have a pretty good idea of who they want to return punts and kicks. James Proche II got work at punts and kicks in the opener, along with Jha'Quan Jackson (punts), Chimere Dike (kicks), TJ Sheffield (kicks), and Matt Landers (kicks). Others are also in the mix for the job. At this point, the Titans are looking for someone to secure the job, or jobs.
Most of the starting jobs on the football team have been solidified by now, but roster spots are still up for grabs as we edge closer to roster cuts. James Williams Sr. played well at inside linebacker in Tampa, but Cedric Gray got some work with the first team in practices in Atlanta. The team is looking to establish a pecking order at receiver, depth at a number of positions, and more and it's getting late.
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I suspect the Titans have a pretty good idea of who they want to return punts and kicks. James Proche II got work at punts and kicks in the opener, along with Jha'Quan Jackson (punts), Chimere Dike (kicks), TJ Sheffield (kicks), and Matt Landers (kicks). Others are also in the mix for the job. At this point, the Titans are looking for someone to secure the job, or jobs.
Preseason week two
Falcons backups not starters- questionable since not the starters but control what ya can-
Play for Elic, very nice 35 yard, three defenders near
A bad throw by Ward 50-60 yards down field and way out of bounds to Jefferson
Crosser for Jefferson, a bit ahead of him but two hands ya catch that
Screen for Dike, defense saw it, smacked ran ob, ugly
*****
Very very amateurish by Callahan
Just play. Falcons soon recognized they were trying for a target to one guy. At least three falcons near each targeted receiver when the ball was thrown
This is not helping anyone, call plays and let it develop
Falcons backups not starters- questionable since not the starters but control what ya can-
Play for Elic, very nice 35 yard, three defenders near
A bad throw by Ward 50-60 yards down field and way out of bounds to Jefferson
Crosser for Jefferson, a bit ahead of him but two hands ya catch that
Screen for Dike, defense saw it, smacked ran ob, ugly
*****
Very very amateurish by Callahan
Just play. Falcons soon recognized they were trying for a target to one guy. At least three falcons near each targeted receiver when the ball was thrown
This is not helping anyone, call plays and let it develop
A sincere play!
Overthrew Ayomanor but Ward clearly looked all around and unscripted.
Oliver route, nine yards. Ordinary veteran looking.
Lob to Ayomanor and it's a bit off. Wards fault.
Dike barely got off the line when I noticed. It's hard to see three at once.
Haven't noticed a TE yet
Overthrew Ayomanor but Ward clearly looked all around and unscripted.
Oliver route, nine yards. Ordinary veteran looking.
Lob to Ayomanor and it's a bit off. Wards fault.
Dike barely got off the line when I noticed. It's hard to see three at once.
Haven't noticed a TE yet
Jahquan returned a punt for maybe 7 yards but just like last week, I can feel he's electric and announcers comment.
Ya can't forget fumbling prob but imo he's been the best looking
Maybe Dike will get a chance
Eta- I guess in the "ooh" moment, I took my eyes off Restrepo this time
Ya can't forget fumbling prob but imo he's been the best looking
Maybe Dike will get a chance
Eta- I guess in the "ooh" moment, I took my eyes off Restrepo this time
Allen at QB, Ward out.
Bad pass
Nice cut by Ayomanor and good gain on play
Dopey handoff when play broken-down
Gunner with a catch
3rd and inches. QB sneak, Ayomanor and Jefferson are the split ends mixing it up.
Terrible spot now lost 7.5 inches yet he went forward. Need replay but not shown.
Run by Mullings. Ayomanor and Jefferson on field.
Throw to well covered Jefferson underthrown and intercepted. Bad idea.
Where's Dike this drive?
Bad pass
Nice cut by Ayomanor and good gain on play
Dopey handoff when play broken-down
Gunner with a catch
3rd and inches. QB sneak, Ayomanor and Jefferson are the split ends mixing it up.
Terrible spot now lost 7.5 inches yet he went forward. Need replay but not shown.
Run by Mullings. Ayomanor and Jefferson on field.
Throw to well covered Jefferson underthrown and intercepted. Bad idea.
Where's Dike this drive?
Chestnut run 2 min
Whyle wide, Ayomanor slot, Gunner one cut big boy catch
Pass to Chestnut
Prosche curl for 11
Backshoulder short pass to Prosche
Where is Dike?
Ooh Oliver and Dike up top, same play to Helm. He don't care if someone is on his back. Heh Morris annoyed he caught that.
Chestnut run
Goodness! Helm with two on him turned around quick to high point it for TD.
Great great big boy drive for Helm.
Dike and Prosche were on field then.
Odukoya was in a couple times showing as the blocking TE
Whyle wide, Ayomanor slot, Gunner one cut big boy catch
Pass to Chestnut
Prosche curl for 11
Backshoulder short pass to Prosche
Where is Dike?
Ooh Oliver and Dike up top, same play to Helm. He don't care if someone is on his back. Heh Morris annoyed he caught that.
Chestnut run
Goodness! Helm with two on him turned around quick to high point it for TD.
Great great big boy drive for Helm.
Dike and Prosche were on field then.
Odukoya was in a couple times showing as the blocking TE
Got family stuff. Won't be watching second half til later or tomorrow.
Jahquan needs to make some plays as WR.
Restrepo sorely does.
Dike should be begging to play the second half.
My eyes say Elic can contribute and maybe significantly but Dike isn't ready. Elic can get the non ST spot assuming there is one for the depth WRs. There won't be two. Ya gotta play ST. He really could use a nice return or two in the second half.
I don't think Dike is cut, don't misunderstand but he becomes a guy they struggle to stash and inactive if Jefferson is around- unless he improves
Jahquan needs to make some plays as WR.
Restrepo sorely does.
Dike should be begging to play the second half.
My eyes say Elic can contribute and maybe significantly but Dike isn't ready. Elic can get the non ST spot assuming there is one for the depth WRs. There won't be two. Ya gotta play ST. He really could use a nice return or two in the second half.
I don't think Dike is cut, don't misunderstand but he becomes a guy they struggle to stash and inactive if Jefferson is around- unless he improves
Ya know when the WR plants his foot to cut and then bursts? Elic is phenomenal at that. So quick n smooth. It's like a 00s hoops player imitating AIs crossover.
He usually gets separation because it's wow but if he doesn't, he's kinda questionable. He's got work to do. Definitely needs to watch Ridley (or Helm
) and recognize where his body must be as he finishes the route.
Once DBs are ready for it, idk how effective it'll be
He usually gets separation because it's wow but if he doesn't, he's kinda questionable. He's got work to do. Definitely needs to watch Ridley (or Helm
) and recognize where his body must be as he finishes the route.Once DBs are ready for it, idk how effective it'll be
nittanylion
Footballguy
You know, @Bri , it really makes me tired, trying to give you all the 'likes' your posts deserve.
It's been said many times before, by many Members here - you really do us all a great service with your coverage of the Titans, and in other Threads where their expatriots find new homes.
I'll go ahead and speak for everyone - we're all *very* grateful. :tipscap:
It's been said many times before, by many Members here - you really do us all a great service with your coverage of the Titans, and in other Threads where their expatriots find new homes.
I'll go ahead and speak for everyone - we're all *very* grateful. :tipscap:
Thank you
Radio discussing how they hold onto Dike.
Former WRs saying he knew how to use his hips in college not sure what's going on there.
Plenty of times in camp he's off to the races but has issues with ordinary.
Comes back to Callahan's stance on they must play all three spots. He can not. He can only sub in the slot.
Rattling off lists of WRs that took time and that's fine but Oliver doing so well takes away the need for Dike. In this analogy, they cut Jefferson tomorrow so the young guys can finish with more time in camp and he can latch on elsewhere.
Then discussed of if it's better to be cut on cut down day or right now.
Former WRs saying he knew how to use his hips in college not sure what's going on there.
Plenty of times in camp he's off to the races but has issues with ordinary.
Comes back to Callahan's stance on they must play all three spots. He can not. He can only sub in the slot.
Rattling off lists of WRs that took time and that's fine but Oliver doing so well takes away the need for Dike. In this analogy, they cut Jefferson tomorrow so the young guys can finish with more time in camp and he can latch on elsewhere.
Then discussed of if it's better to be cut on cut down day or right now.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Some good stuff in here. I have been driving around a lot the past several days due to physical therapy and medical appointments, and I sometimes will listen to the Sirius xm fantasy radio channel. I don’t remember the dude’s name—but he said that Ridley and Lockett were hanging out a lot with Ward both on and off the field (doing drills on the field, and just connecting and learning each other off of the field). I wasn’t in a great position to draft Ridley, but I did use the last pick of my draft to grab Lockett.
Lockett has been odd. I don't think everyone knew he was from Tennessee.
He arrived and took a leadership role right away (despite not practicing) and there was some criticism, why hasn't Ridley? He had, he just wasn't publicizing it.
They've done a wonderful job. Wholesome get together and there's plenty of pics of them showing some young WR something to do on the field.
I like the Oliver story. He was quite literally trying to copy how Ridley did some things and they got goofy and let him wear Ridley's number for part of a practice. (He already backed him up) He made a few plays and they enjoyed a good laugh.
Then people on X were saying look at Ridley and supposedly they laughed at that too.
This setup a coachable point that's resonated ever since about emulating veterans.
Restrepo has been a great organizer and top notch teammate. He's a middle man for a lot of these things that they did or Cam did and some players credit him. He's even buddies with the DBs too.
It's definitely never been a closer group and going to be weird whenever cuts come.
Previously I had mentioned that the former WRs on the radio take a lot of issues with spacing on the routes and how the rookies have been doing.
Elic has been better and looking around like he's aware and trying but Dike has not.
No one in conversation saw Falcons intrasquad so maybe Dike is also but....
Here's Kurt Warner
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He has issues with the play designs of a few plays. He's all but saying it's the design not the rookies.
(Aside from Cam not hitting the wide open short WR on each play)
I watch a lot of Kurt. Love him, he's wonderful and I learn a lot.
My issue here is he may be right, probably is some, but he loved the Titans plays recently when it was the veterans and Oliver and to me the plays looked darn similar.
My conclusion is still Dike spacing or awareness and maybe play design too.
If ya watch this whole thing, you'll start to feel the "stop clogging it up" vibe even if he says clouding.
Elic has been better and looking around like he's aware and trying but Dike has not.
No one in conversation saw Falcons intrasquad so maybe Dike is also but....
Here's Kurt Warner
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He has issues with the play designs of a few plays. He's all but saying it's the design not the rookies.
(Aside from Cam not hitting the wide open short WR on each play)
I watch a lot of Kurt. Love him, he's wonderful and I learn a lot.
My issue here is he may be right, probably is some, but he loved the Titans plays recently when it was the veterans and Oliver and to me the plays looked darn similar.
My conclusion is still Dike spacing or awareness and maybe play design too.
If ya watch this whole thing, you'll start to feel the "stop clogging it up" vibe even if he says clouding.
To followup- so ya can't play Dike and negatively impact the others and ya can't sit him because he has to learn.
I said previously he needed to get a ton of work in to be the returner. Well he needs to see film like this too.
I have no doubt it's unintentional and game maturity. When that light clicks on, they've got a player. Idk how- wr coach, older player, fellow rookie that recently learned- but it needs to be like cramming for a test type studying. The season is getting near.
It would be sooo big if they can just coach that into him.
ETA remember radio WRs said he could only play 2 WR sets (opposite) til he learned
I said previously he needed to get a ton of work in to be the returner. Well he needs to see film like this too.
I have no doubt it's unintentional and game maturity. When that light clicks on, they've got a player. Idk how- wr coach, older player, fellow rookie that recently learned- but it needs to be like cramming for a test type studying. The season is getting near.
It would be sooo big if they can just coach that into him.
ETA remember radio WRs said he could only play 2 WR sets (opposite) til he learned
Van Jefferson supposedly was unhappy with Cam and said he put that pass too far in front of him.
(Any pass with some depth, the receiver can certainly adjust some but nonetheless...)
Teammates didn't like it and he was getting the cold shoulder.
Cam handled it like a champ. Ya can't sense any prob from Cam.
The thought is he can be unhappy but he must have not expressed it professionally and Cam's Cam
(Any pass with some depth, the receiver can certainly adjust some but nonetheless...)
Teammates didn't like it and he was getting the cold shoulder.
Cam handled it like a champ. Ya can't sense any prob from Cam.
The thought is he can be unhappy but he must have not expressed it professionally and Cam's Cam
I don't think there's anything new here. Not ignoring the thread just days off and everyone discussing Van as a barometer which I brought up months ago.
It's uncomfortable to think who didn't beat him out.
Prosche improving dramatically as a WR after already being known as a ST guy sets similar questions for the bottom of the unit.
Most of all though is Callahan and staff did not get the rookies to play well on ST and that's a fundamental thing for depth WRs. Oh I understand that they want them to play and worked on this n that but maybe this is why classic coaches always had em learn ST and blocking before they caught many passes?
Callahan needs to look good here, wise. I think Prosche makes it as it covers that the rookies didn't get good on ST.
Sooo then I come back around and if I'm keeping Prosche and that's my mindset well then see ya Jefferson because I need Oliver, Elic, and Dike playing and you're in the way.
It's uncomfortable to think who didn't beat him out.
Prosche improving dramatically as a WR after already being known as a ST guy sets similar questions for the bottom of the unit.
Most of all though is Callahan and staff did not get the rookies to play well on ST and that's a fundamental thing for depth WRs. Oh I understand that they want them to play and worked on this n that but maybe this is why classic coaches always had em learn ST and blocking before they caught many passes?
Callahan needs to look good here, wise. I think Prosche makes it as it covers that the rookies didn't get good on ST.
Sooo then I come back around and if I'm keeping Prosche and that's my mindset well then see ya Jefferson because I need Oliver, Elic, and Dike playing and you're in the way.
2nd to last Practice-
Ridley has a good day.
Lockett was in a pressure cast looking thing but for treatment AND made a few catches so I guess it works
Van dropped a pass and stayed to work with Juggs. He had a couple catches though people kinda hung up on it after the other day.
Ridley, Oliver, Ridley, Oliver four play stretch. Oliver made great catch rough catch tough catch over the middle per every reporter.
Elic and Dike 0-2 with ones, 0-4 with Allen.
Not good!
Dike played all three so that's significant type finally but good for him
Zero mention of 3rd 4th string depth players. Waited all day to confirm
Official unofficial depth chart didn't change with WRs that I noticed.
Starters still Ridley, Lockett, Van
Young second group
Ridley has a good day.
Lockett was in a pressure cast looking thing but for treatment AND made a few catches so I guess it works
Van dropped a pass and stayed to work with Juggs. He had a couple catches though people kinda hung up on it after the other day.
Ridley, Oliver, Ridley, Oliver four play stretch. Oliver made great catch rough catch tough catch over the middle per every reporter.
Elic and Dike 0-2 with ones, 0-4 with Allen.
Not good!
Dike played all three so that's significant type finally but good for him
Zero mention of 3rd 4th string depth players. Waited all day to confirm
Official unofficial depth chart didn't change with WRs that I noticed.
Starters still Ridley, Lockett, Van
Young second group
Wyatt has Jefferson having a good day leading the team in catches. He also said the coaches praised his blocking on one play.
Jahquan returner and had a couple catches
That Elic dropped one is the only rookie note.
Ridley sat with soreness or veteran rest depending who tweeted
Very little today. Will keep an eye out.
Callahan said there were still some positions with competition going on. "He didn't mention WR" has been said but I don't think he meant take me literally.
On radio was "Dike just looks good. I know he has issues but ya gotta see this kid run."
Jahquan returner and had a couple catches
That Elic dropped one is the only rookie note.
Ridley sat with soreness or veteran rest depending who tweeted
Very little today. Will keep an eye out.
Callahan said there were still some positions with competition going on. "He didn't mention WR" has been said but I don't think he meant take me literally.
On radio was "Dike just looks good. I know he has issues but ya gotta see this kid run."
Van and Locker and Van
