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TJ Housh to Seattle (1 Viewer)
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Chase Stuart
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Probably kills the Crabtree pick for most mock drafts.
doubletrouble
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got link off Roto..
Free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh will sign a multi-year deal with the Seahawks, according to the National Football Post.
Seattle was offering at least $2M more than both the Vikings and Bengals. The 'Hawks were also desperate for a durable wideout. Housh was a flanker in Cincinnati and that's Deion Branch's position in Seattle. Branch could now be moved to the slot or cut, as it was rumored he might be in the winter. Mar. 2 - 5:45 pm et
Free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh will sign a multi-year deal with the Seahawks, according to the National Football Post.
Seattle was offering at least $2M more than both the Vikings and Bengals. The 'Hawks were also desperate for a durable wideout. Housh was a flanker in Cincinnati and that's Deion Branch's position in Seattle. Branch could now be moved to the slot or cut, as it was rumored he might be in the winter. Mar. 2 - 5:45 pm et
FUBAR
Footballguy
Sure, but assuming they don't now acquire Edwards too, it doesn't kill it for the real draft.
Chachi
Footballguy
Sure does and opens the Crabtree to Cincy were about to see, for Crabtree and fantasy value i'd take the Bengals over the Seahawks easily.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
As a Vikings fan, I feel terrible. He is a great WR and a better person. Seahawks got a great player.
cstu
Footballguy
Looks like he'll be a Raider now.
doubletrouble
Footballguy
Crabtree to Oakland will come true NOW...
DenverBroncos
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Bump up Ocho Cinco. Top 10 WR next year for sure.
Someone else at cincy (Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell, Chris Henry) or even Coles (if aquired by trade) gets a huge fantasy boost as well.
Someone else at cincy (Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell, Chris Henry) or even Coles (if aquired by trade) gets a huge fantasy boost as well.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
I don't know. I think the DeAngelo Hall contract is still worse than this. But I agree $10mil/year to Housh is ridiculous. I expect his production to go the same direction Deion Branch's did when he signed on with Seattle.
cstu
Footballguy
Ouch. I know they badly needed a WR but that's a lot.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Did the Bengals suddenly acquire a OLine? He has the talent, but anyone using "Ocho Cinco" and "for sure" in the same sentence is kidding themselves.
DenverBroncos
Footballguy
Housh's fantasy value definetly takes a hit. Not a huge one, but as a fantasy owner I would be bummed. Cincy was the perfect place for him to rack of fantasy points. I expect him to be productive in Seattle, but probabably a 10-15% fantasy point reduction.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
His schedule should get a lot easier.
Limp Ditka
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They just said it on ESPN which we all know is the epicenter of fact.Guys, this is a bogus post. He hasn't decided yet. Link only worked for a few minutes. C'mon, the National Football Post? You guys are slipping
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DenverBroncos
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2003 CIN 16 90 1355 15.1 82 10 66 0 0 2004 CIN 16 95 1274 13.4 53 9 63 1 0
2005 CIN 16 97 1432 14.8 70 9 74 1 0
2006 CIN 16 87 1369 15.7 74 7 66 1 1
2007 CIN 16 93 1440 15.5 70 8 74 2 1
2008 CIN 13 53 540 10.2 26 4
He has great fantasy stats besides last year. The dude was extremely consistent and averaging 90 receptions, 1400 yards and about 9 TD's. He has phenomenal value this year and will probably regain 2003-2007 form.
doubletrouble
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Incogneto
Footballguy
The Hawks aren't as bad as everyone thinks....they SHOULD have won 6 games with esentially 1/2 of their starters out. 6WRs on IR, and the starting QB out...Add to that 2 pro bowlers (Kearny and Big Walt) missing large amounts of time....this team is not the struggling team lots of non-fans make it out to be.With Housh in the fold now, the hawks can take OLine at #4, and hope McCoy slides to them in the 2nd round. That would be a perfect draft for me.Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year
Couch Potato
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Touraj Junior
(because I know you were all wondering)
(because I know you were all wondering)
massraider
Footballguy
15 mill guaranteed.This is a minor deal. Years and total dollars mean nothing. You should already know this.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
5 years, 50 million and only $15 million guaranteed money (which is all that really matters). When it's all said and done, it will probably be a 3 year deal worth $24 million. I can't see Housh collecting beyond that. Anway, I'm not crazy about the signing. That said, I'd rather pay Housh $8 million per year than Michael Clayton $5 million per year like the Bucs are doing.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
DeAngelo Hall deal definitely worse than this.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Couple this with the Cards losing Warner, and I like the Seahawks to win the division this year. Give them a fair bounce in the health department and a decent draft and this is a team that could surprise a lot of people, especially with the distractions gone.
cstu
Footballguy
Still, it'll mean he stays with the Seahawks for at least 3 years and gets most of that money ($20M-$25M). It won't be until the 4th year that they will be able to save money by cutting him.
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
So the Seahawks will be starting Housh and Branch at wide receiver. Might as well rename them Bonnie and Clyde.
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
They can cut him loose after his second season if need be.
massraider
Footballguy
We will have to wait and see how the bonuses are broken down, but 15 mill guaranteed is a minor deal, and Housh seems like such a sage bet to me, that this isn't much of a risk for the Hawks.Chris Canty just got 17.25 mill guaranteed.
Brandon Jones got 5.4 mill guaranteed.
Michael Boley got 11 mill guaranteed.
Michael Clayton got 10.5 mill guaranteed.
Now, I am not saying that this deal is without risk. But calling it the worst FA move by far is absurd. Considering the player, team need, and guaranteed dollars, I think it is closer to the best deal thus far.
cstu
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Obviously they could cut him anytime but they'd have a $12M cap hit if they cut him next year while he'd only cost $8M to keep.In his 3rd year he'd still be cheaper to keep than cut.
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massraider
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It doesn't say 15 mill SB. Just 15 mill guaranteed.
mozzy84
Footballguy
totally wishing the vikes would have ponied up the cash myself, its right where I thought he would be getting paid, a little more I guess but its not my money.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I'm just glad the Eagles didn't bite on him. He's a very good WR, I just can see his numbers dive bombing. TJ with CJ>>>>>>TJ with Branch.
cstu
Footballguy
Either way I believe the team takes the hit for the full amount if the player is cut or traded.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Probably a good fit. Who was the last real receiver that SEA had? Steve Largeant? I mean Darrell Jackson was OK, but geesh I can't even remember them having a Top 30 receiver in a decade really.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I think the keep branch too. But let him be what he is, a samn good 2/slot receiver, but he's certainly no 1 And I think housh can be that.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
The real FF winners from this?
Sidney Rice and Andre Caldwell (unless Coles ends up in CIN)
Sidney Rice and Andre Caldwell (unless Coles ends up in CIN)
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See Post # 40
Incogneto
Footballguy
NO!They basically HAVE to go o-line, now.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
agreed. d hall is and will be a bust/cancer. Fast as lightning, and about as smart.
Ghost of Bill Walsh
Footballguy
While getting Housh is surely a boon to the Seahawks what happens to his value if Hasselbeck is out for any length of time. We know he's got a bad back. Is Seneca Wallace gonna be able to do the job if Hass is out? Wallace started 7 games in Hasselbecks absence. He threw for 1532yds/ 11 tds. Not saying he couldn't get the job done but I think T.J.'s value drops a bit with Wallace under center. Now that they have Housh are they gonna look for a vet QB as well. No doubt T.J. is gonna be the recipient of the majority of targets. His being there probably helps rookie sensation TE John Carlson as well. For Houshmanzadeh's sake I hope Hasselbeck stays healthy. I don't think Hass is gonna be as good as he was a few years back but with a receiver like T.J. and TE Carlson his production should still keep him in the top 15 and if the rest of the receivers can stay off IR they should be ok.
