TJ Housh to Seattle (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

But who knows. I think if he's there and the choice is between him and Oher, then go BPA. And if Crabtree is there it's hard to imagine there'd be a better player available.

Wasn't there talk that the team believed that Locklear could move from the right to left side when Jones hangs it up? I would think that would preclude drafting Oher (who I really like BTW and think is worth the #4 pick).

I don't really recall much talk about that, and quite frankly I think Ray Willis outplayed him at RT. Lock went backwards a little this last season. Re-signing Willis is a priority for them as well.It's been a few minutes so now I am flip flopping away from Crabtree. Oher has a mean streak that's been missing since Poison Pill left. I remember the story of a player that he blocked all the way to the fence ringing the field for taunting him the whole game. Oher said he was trying to put the LB back on the bus he came in on.

 

[MG345]

But who knows. I think if he's there and the choice is between him and Oher, then go BPA. And if Crabtree is there it's hard to imagine there'd be a better player available.

Wasn't there talk that the team believed that Locklear could move from the right to left side when Jones hangs it up? I would think that would preclude drafting Oher (who I really like BTW and think is worth the #4 pick).

Yes, this is the common line of thinking around Seattle. Locklear filled in for Jones some last year, and did a pretty good job too. IMO, he did better at LT than he did at RT.

 

[Enforcer]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

I don't post that much on this board, but can one of the regulars confirm that Chachi here is a pretty much a tool?

 

[MG345]

I don't really recall much talk about that, and quite frankly I think Ray Willis outplayed him at RT. Lock went backwards a little this last season. Re-signing Willis is a priority for them as well.

There has been a good amount of talk about Locklear moving to left tackle, though not necessarily by the Seahawks themselves. Locklear did have certain escalators written into his contract though, based on time played at Left Tackle, so you figure there has to have been some consideration there. That coupled with the fact that Locklear has pretty much been the replacement every time Walt has been hurt, you can definitely see that happening. Locklear is definitely better suited to play LT than RT.And I agree with you, Willis should be a priority, he did a pretty damn good job at RT last year.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

I don't post that much on this board, but can one of the regulars confirm that Chachi here is a pretty much a tool?

confirmed.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

What sticks out about this signing to me is T.J. (the top WR fa this year got 8 mil a year while Ward (the top RB fa this year) only got 4.25 mil a year.

Since when does wr's have twice the value as RB's? It seems to me it should be other way around. RB's take a beating pounding the line, and catch passes. Did that unusal RB rookie class last year bring the value of rb;s down that bad this year?

DeAngelo Hall was by far the worst signing this year. Seems like he got rewarded for cussing out his coach! (The Daniel Snyder way! ) And then to throw out a preachers son because of it is even worst! (Springs)

plus Hall and Haynesworth less Springs and Taylor makes me think Redskins are trying to catch Bungals for the charector team of the NFL. :whoosh:

 

[msommer]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

15 mill guaranteed.This is a minor deal. Years and total dollars mean nothing. You should already know this.

Still, it'll mean he stays with the Seahawks for at least 3 years and gets most of that money ($20M-$25M). It won't be until the 4th year that they will be able to save money by cutting him.

They can cut him loose after his second season if need be.

Obviously they could cut him anytime but they'd have a $12M cap hit if they cut him while he'd only cost $8M to keep.

It doesn't say 15 mill SB. Just 15 mill guaranteed.

Either way I believe the team takes the hit for the full amount if the player is cut or traded.

Not if the guaranteed money is 1st year salary

 

[Bob Magaw]

Am I the only one who thinks that they maybe they still should draft Crabtree anyway?

NO!They basically HAVE to go o-line, now.

I agree. i think they pressed so hard for TJ so they could free the pick to go OL, given Crabtree's foot issue.

This is the reason that, as a 'hawks fan, I like the deal.

What if both Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe go before they pick? Do they take Oher?

if the top two LTs are gone, they don't need curry, probably don't need WR now, i could see them taking a look at DT raji... just lost bernard, seem to have been plagued by a lot of injuries to interior DL in recent years... when was the last great SEA DT... cortez kennedy? a stud DT would make the heart of their defense (tatupu & peterson) better, & would also help the DEs (where kerney is aging, & tapp/jackson aren't special talents but more try hard guys)...i agree stafford is possible, & maybe even sanchez, but that seems a bit high for such an unproven player...darkhorse might be one of the top DEs (orakpo, brown?)... kerney was DPOY runner up in 2007, but has missed a lot of time in the years before & after bracketing that outburst... & as mentioned, tapp & jackson average players...they definitely would like to start grooming a replacement for jones, but i agree ruskell values character, & andre smith has some grave red flags there, insurmountable, i'd say, for this front office... somebody will take a chance on him, but he probably drops out of the top 10 & cost himself a lot of money with his immaturity & combine disappearing act... doesn't oher also have maturity concerns? not saying he is a bad guy, but is he bullet proof enough to go #4 overall?

 

[obxlegends]

Bump up Ocho Cinco. Top 10 WR next year for sure.

Someone else at cincy (Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell, Chris Henry) or even Coles (if aquired by trade) gets a huge fantasy boost as well.

I believe the Jets cut Coles and he's a Free Agent.

 

[Kirby]

Bump up Ocho Cinco. Top 10 WR next year for sure. Someone else at cincy (Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell, Chris Henry) or even Coles (if aquired by trade) gets a huge fantasy boost as well.

[quietvoice] Henry is in Cali working out with Palmer. [/quietvoice]

 

[Godsbrother]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

 

[flufhed]

$15mm guaranteed is actually a very reasonable deal for Housh. I had thought some team would go nuts and blow the bank on him, but this seems like a deal where, if he plays at his optimum level well into the contract, he'll make a boatload. But if he fades, the Seahawks haven't mortgaged later years by signing him.Well done.

I agree. Wishing the Titans could have gotten him.TJ is in the prime of his career, a good guy on and off the field, a very productive receiver, and arguably the best WR FA available. What did people expect to pay for a guy like that?

 

[ScottyFargo]

Deal seems quite alright to me. A little long in years but I think that is usually not a big deal.

 

[One]

I think it's a great deal for Seattle.

You get a #1 WR and you're freed up to draft an OT or D Lineman ...maybe even have a shot at Stafford or Curry.

 

[One]

Probably amounts to nothing, but...

T.J. SAYS HE’S GETTING AN MRI

Posted by Mike Florio on March 3, 2009, 11:17 a.m. EST

Lost in the three-team jockeying for the services of receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh is the possibility that the 27-year-old trapped in a 31-year-old’s body has an injury of some sort.

Houshmandzadeh said on Tuesday’s Dan Patrick Show that he’ll undergo an MRI on an unspecified area of his body. (We wonder why T.J. didn’t mention this during his Thursday night appearance on ESPN.)

The specific reason for the MRI isn’t clear. So we picked through the 2008 injury reports (a major pain in the butt, by the way — please feel free to play your imaginart violins, and then to shove them up your organic carrying cases), and we found that he was on it for four different conditions last year — hamstring, ankle, hand, and back.

Specifically, he was probable in Week One with a hamstring. He was listed as a full participant in practice on Thursday and Friday.

In Week Seven, he was questionable with an ankle injury. He didn’t practice on Wednesday, practiced on a limited basis on Thursday, and fully participated on Friday.

In Week Eight, he was probable, due to the ankle. He missed practice on Wednesday and fully participated the other two days.

In Week Twelve, Week Thirteen, Week Fourteen and Week Seventeen, he was probable with a back injury He missed a couple of Wednesday practices because of it.

In Weeks Fifteen and Sixteen, Houshmandzadeh was probable with a hand injury. He missed one Wednesday practice, prior to Week Fifteen.

In Week Two through Week Six, Week Nine, Week Ten (bye), and Week Eleven, he wasn’t listed on the injury report at all.

Our guess? The back injury, which appeared on the last report of the season, is the reason for the MRI.

And, presumably, the Seahawks won’t finalize the contract until everything checks out.

Look, we’re not trying to sound any alarms here. But, let’s face it. It’s not like getting a massage; people don’t undergo expensive, high-tech diagnostic tests unless there’s something to diagnose, or to rule out.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/03/...getting-an-mri/

 

[QuizGuy66]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

 

[cacksman]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

No team would have had a good year with the amount of injures we had. That was even one of the first things Housh addressed.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

No team would have had a good year with the amount of injures we had. That was even one of the first things Housh addressed.

You read his quote from ESPN the magazine. He wanted to sign with the team that offered him the most money, and he (or his agent) was smart to get three teams involved in the bidding. A team has to work hard to lose 12 games.

 

[cacksman]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

No team would have had a good year with the amount of injures we had. That was even one of the first things Housh addressed.

You read his quote from ESPN the magazine. He wanted to sign with the team that offered him the most money, and he (or his agent) was smart to get three teams involved in the bidding. A team has to work hard to lose 12 games.

 

[higgins]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

I don't post that much on this board, but can one of the regulars confirm that Chachi here is a pretty much a tool?

confirmed.

I concur -- message is authentic.

 

[Foosball God]

What sticks out about this signing to me is T.J. (the top WR fa this year got 8 mil a year while Ward (the top RB fa this year) only got 4.25 mil a year. Since when does wr's have twice the value as RB's? It seems to me it should be other way around. RB's take a beating pounding the line, and catch passes. Did that unusal RB rookie class last year bring the value of rb;s down that bad this year? DeAngelo Hall was by far the worst signing this year. Seems like he got rewarded for cussing out his coach! (The Daniel Snyder way! ) And then to throw out a preachers son because of it is even worst! (Springs)plus Hall and Haynesworth less Springs and Taylor makes me think Redskins are trying to catch Bungals for the charector team of the NFL.

Because Ward will be a part time player wherever he goes, and T.J. will play every offensive snap. There is also the prevailing theory in the league that RBs are a dime a dozen. That is why no one can get anything for a RB in trade.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

I don't post that much on this board, but can one of the regulars confirm that Chachi here is a pretty much a tool?

confirmed.

I concur -- message is authentic.

Confirmed x3

 

[Gr00vus]

Good signing for the Hawks (if TJ can stay on the field). Any chance they cut Branch?

Either way, stock up for Hass, he'll be a prime sleeper FF QB.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Contract talk bores me.

It's about what goes on ON the field for me.

SEA needed a reliable possession guy since they are committing a lot more heavily to the run and ball control this year. Housh will give them a reliable guy who will know how to find the open spaces and move the chains. He'll once again have a high # of catches and a low YPC. Branch's numbers will suffer for it, but hey, if you can't stay healthy your team has to make moves like this. He'll likely move to the slot and Burleson will stay outside. Carlson's numbers will take a hit too, but I suspect that part of the thinking in getting TJ was to have Carlson available more than last year to stay in and block.

I don't know how much of this I agree with. He proved himself last year to be a pretty dependable target and at times he was the only target. He had a few drops but he was a rookie, see if it continues. Granted also that who knows how much the Mora WCO will resemble the Walrus Coast Offense but I just don't see why you'd have a standout receiving TE and then come up with ways to keep the ball out of his hands. While I don't expect him to lead the team again, keeping him in more doesn't seem like the smart way of going about things.

I agree. If you need QB protection bad enough to keep a TE in to block, you do so no matter how dinged up your WR's are, which means this would have been happening last year. If you want to predict whether or not the TE will be kept in to pass block, look at the O-line, not the WR corp.A commitment to the run may mean fewer pass plays get called, so that could shrink his numbers a little. But i think an overall more effective offense helps him more than it hurts him, especially in terms of red zone opportunities.

If Carlson was an asset in the passing game last year, he's going to be even more effective with added experience and better WR play on the edges. I'm not expecting top 5 numbers from him, but I can see a 7-10 finish.

 

[massraider]

Good signing for the Hawks (if TJ can stay on the field). Any chance they cut Branch?Either way, stock up for Hass, he'll be a prime sleeper FF QB.

I agree, and I am a bit surprised that this is getting much negative attention. Adding a healthy Branch and Burleson to an emerging Carlson seems like decent enough weapons for Hass.Considering the division, and the injuries the team suffered, I really think the Hawks are getting sold a bit short here. yeah, they were 4-12, but this is a team that won recently, and I certainly think they could bounce back.

 

[mad sweeney]

At the signing conference today he was holding up a #18 jersey. Maybe it's a sign the Engram will be re-signed. Probably also a good sign that KoRo will not.

 

[seahawk 17]

Am I the only one who thinks that they maybe they still should draft Crabtree anyway?

NO!They basically HAVE to go o-line, now.

I agree. i think they pressed so hard for TJ so they could free the pick to go OL, given Crabtree's foot issue.

This is the reason that, as a 'hawks fan, I like the deal.

What if both Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe go before they pick? Do they take Oher?

if the top two LTs are gone, they don't need curry, probably don't need WR now, i could see them taking a look at DT raji... just lost bernard, seem to have been plagued by a lot of injuries to interior DL in recent years... when was the last great SEA DT... cortez kennedy? a stud DT would make the heart of their defense (tatupu & peterson) better, & would also help the DEs (where kerney is aging, & tapp/jackson aren't special talents but more try hard guys)...i agree stafford is possible, & maybe even sanchez, but that seems a bit high for such an unproven player...darkhorse might be one of the top DEs (orakpo, brown?)... kerney was DPOY runner up in 2007, but has missed a lot of time in the years before & after bracketing that outburst... & as mentioned, tapp & jackson average players...they definitely would like to start grooming a replacement for jones, but i agree ruskell values character, & andre smith has some grave red flags there, insurmountable, i'd say, for this front office... somebody will take a chance on him, but he probably drops out of the top 10 & cost himself a lot of money with his immaturity & combine disappearing act... doesn't oher also have maturity concerns? not saying he is a bad guy, but is he bullet proof enough to go #4 overall?

DT I agree.

 

[Mikey16x]

At the signing conference today he was holding up a #18 jersey. Maybe it's a sign the Engram will be re-signed. Probably also a good sign that KoRo will not.

He wore #18 at Oregon. He always wanted to be #18, I forgot why the Bungals wouldn't give it to him. Either way, it has no bearing on Engram.

 

[mad sweeney]

At the signing conference today he was holding up a #18 jersey. Maybe it's a sign the Engram will be re-signed. Probably also a good sign that KoRo will not.

He wore #18 at Oregon. He always wanted to be #18, I forgot why the Bungals wouldn't give it to him. Either way, it has no bearing on Engram.

I read that after I posted. It probably wasn't legal for WRs to have teens back then.

 

[gradin123]

TJ is a solid player but he is not a difference maker.

He defitinely addresses a need at WR but I don't think he will solve the Seahawks overall problems.

Granted the Seahawks dealt with a lot of injuries last year but to dismiss their decline solely to injuries is simplistic.

Hasslebeck had a back ailment. The rest he is getting now should mean he'll enter next season healthy but it seems to be a chronic problem and it will probably only take a few good hits to get it to act up again. Julius Jones has never proven he can carry the load at running back and the seahawks still don't have a receiver who can truly stretch the field.

However the Seahawks biggest problem is on defense. Even in their heyday they wern't that good but last year they were just bad and I haven't seen that addressed in anyway yet. In fact the only real move on defense was that they lost Bernard and replaced him with a fat slug career backup.

They need to address defense with their pick but this is still a team with a lot of queston marks heading into next season and honestly I think the Cardinals will enter next season as the clear favorites to repeat.

 

[MG345]

At the signing conference today he was holding up a #18 jersey. Maybe it's a sign the Engram will be re-signed. Probably also a good sign that KoRo will not.

He wore #18 at Oregon. He always wanted to be #18, I forgot why the Bungals wouldn't give it to him. Either way, it has no bearing on Engram.

I read that after I posted. It probably wasn't legal for WRs to have teens back then.

Didn't this rule change with Keyshawn Johnson?

 

[cacksman]

TJ is a solid player but he is not a difference maker.

He defitinely addresses a need at WR but I don't think he will solve the Seahawks overall problems.

Granted the Seahawks dealt with a lot of injuries last year but to dismiss their decline solely to injuries is simplistic.

Hasslebeck had a back ailment. The rest he is getting now should mean he'll enter next season healthy but it seems to be a chronic problem and it will probably only take a few good hits to get it to act up again. Julius Jones has never proven he can carry the load at running back and the seahawks still don't have a receiver who can truly stretch the field.

However the Seahawks biggest problem is on defense. Even in their heyday they wern't that good but last year they were just bad and I haven't seen that addressed in anyway yet. In fact the only real move on defense was that they lost Bernard and replaced him with a fat slug career backup.

They need to address defense with their pick but this is still a team with a lot of queston marks heading into next season and honestly I think the Cardinals will enter next season as the clear favorites to repeat.

Seattle has never really had a player that can stretch the field since they have been good this decade. Even in the year we went 13-3 and went to the Super Bowl, our WR's were DArrell Jackson, Bobby Engram and Joe Jurevicius.And obviously the Cardinals will be favorites to repeat. Even when Seattle was great, they were never the clear favorites to win the division by the media. Every year, the national media and other fans would pick the Cards, 9ers, or even the Rams to take over the West, even when it was clear Seattle was the best team.

 

[ScottyFargo]

TJ is a solid player but he is not a difference maker.

He defitinely addresses a need at WR but I don't think he will solve the Seahawks overall problems.

Granted the Seahawks dealt with a lot of injuries last year but to dismiss their decline solely to injuries is simplistic.

Hasslebeck had a back ailment. The rest he is getting now should mean he'll enter next season healthy but it seems to be a chronic problem and it will probably only take a few good hits to get it to act up again. Julius Jones has never proven he can carry the load at running back and the seahawks still don't have a receiver who can truly stretch the field.

However the Seahawks biggest problem is on defense. Even in their heyday they wern't that good but last year they were just bad and I haven't seen that addressed in anyway yet. In fact the only real move on defense was that they lost Bernard and replaced him with a fat slug career backup.

They need to address defense with their pick but this is still a team with a lot of queston marks heading into next season and honestly I think the Cardinals will enter next season as the clear favorites to repeat.

Seattle has never really had a player that can stretch the field since they have been good this decade. Even in the year we went 13-3 and went to the Super Bowl, our WR's were DArrell Jackson, Bobby Engram and Joe Jurevicius.And obviously the Cardinals will be favorites to repeat. Even when Seattle was great, they were never the clear favorites to win the division by the media. Every year, the national media and other fans would pick the Cards, 9ers, or even the Rams to take over the West, even when it was clear Seattle was the best team.

I think once upon a time the Seahawks might have had a good running game that made up for some things, too. Julius Jones is probably just as good, though.

 

[DoubleG]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

Ummm...who would you rather have throwing you the ball - Matt Hasselbeck or the winner of the Gus Frerotte/Tavaris Jackson "battle"??

 

[lyon812]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.

Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.

-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

Ummm...who would you rather have throwing you the ball - Matt Hasselbeck or the winner of the Gus Frerotte/Tavaris Jackson "battle"??

You mean Sage Rosenfels. Frerotte's out of there.Regardless, Hasselbeck faces very real injury issues. Wallace is an adequate backup, but Mora sounds very realistic about the possibility that this issue's going to recur and need addressing through the draft. http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2...awks_keeping_lb

 

[ScottyFargo]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

Ummm...who would you rather have throwing you the ball - Matt Hasselbeck or the winner of the Gus Frerotte/Tavaris Jackson "battle"??

Would you rather face double teams all day or single coverage? Would you rather have more opportunities on offense because you can count on your d to get you the ball back quickly or would you like to play with a weak d? Would you rather always win the TOP battle or would you like to try your luck at being the only means of getting the ball downfield, bit by bit?The correct answer is: D. I will take 2 million dollars more and play closer to home by half.

 

[DoubleG]

Well assuming a final announcement, congrats Seahawks you are getting a great player.

Condolences TJ as I'm not sure that the Squawks can compete in even that division considering their collapse last year Enjoy the money.

-QG

You do know that Housh is leaving the Bengals??? Any team, except for the Lions, is an upgrade.

My larger point is that if TJ were about winning sooner he'd have gone Vikings actually. Moving from a 4-11-1 team to a 4-12 = play. I don't begrudge him that.-QG

Ummm...who would you rather have throwing you the ball - Matt Hasselbeck or the winner of the Gus Frerotte/Tavaris Jackson "battle"??

You mean Sage Rosenfels. Frerotte's out of there.Regardless, Hasselbeck faces very real injury issues. Wallace is an adequate backup, but Mora sounds very realistic about the possibility that this issue's going to recur and need addressing through the draft. http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2...awks_keeping_lb

<_< "And right now all indications are that he’s going to be fine (repeated twice in the piece)...."but will look at the draft in terms of finding an heir apparent for Hasselbeck when his career is over to groom as the future starting quarterback of the franchise."

The way I read it, Mora seems to think Hass will be fine, of course there is always uncertainty with any recovery, but he seems to be doing well. It sounds more like he's saying "if we draft a QB don't think that means Matt is not doing well."

Incidentally, I don't own any relevant Seahawks (or Vikings) in any league I'm in. (I own Engram in a dynatsy league - but I said "relevant")

 

[the branded hand]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

$10 million a year is a hell of a lot... gulp... but if you're Seattle, after the last couple years, the posssibility of a 90/1000/8 WR is absolute gold. I hope it works out for them.Separate note: You gotta feel for Koren Robinson right now. He and Corey Smith were teammates at N.C. State. Thoughts and prayers for Corey's family... keep it tight, Koren...

 

[cacksman]

Word out there is 4 year, 40 million. TJ is not worth 10 million a year, worst FA signing of the year and it's not even close.

$10 million a year is a hell of a lot... gulp... but if you're Seattle, after the last couple years, the posssibility of a 90/1000/8 WR is absolute gold. I hope it works out for them.Separate note: You gotta feel for Koren Robinson right now. He and Corey Smith were teammates at N.C. State. Thoughts and prayers for Corey's family... keep it tight, Koren...

It was actually not 10 million per year. It was 5 years and only a 15 million signing bonus which is not bad at all considering Michael Clayton got 10.5!