Ministry of Pain
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@rockaction can you guess your new photo's nickname back in the day?
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**TNF on Prime Video - Patriots at Jets** (-6.5, 38.5) 8:15 (1 Viewer)
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karl.Racki
Footballguy
This game is awful.. Typical; NFL 2020's matchup
rockaction
Footballguy
Space Cadet?
Looks like "Punky QB"?
Looks like "Punky QB"?
Boston
Footballguy
I don't disagree with this philosophy in normal circumstances...BUT...the Pats O line is so bad (and the offensive weapons are very limited) I don't think he will learn anything other than getting his butt kicked...I do think he will play this year but the room for error of rolling him out in week 4 and getting destroyed for 14 weeks is just too large to screw with...especially since this team is going absolutely nowhere.
The Patriots have the most cap space in 2025. They should get a couple of FA olinemen, and draft one. Brissett has limited upside but he doesn't throw INTs and would probably win more games than Maye, which is bad for their draft capital. I think Maye should get some game action later in the year.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Darth Vader actually
Black Sunshine was another they use to call him in the locker room
I assume the Vader reference is his need to wear sunglasses pretty much all the time do to an eye issue he has with light
rockaction
Footballguy
Black Sunshine is a better nickname than "Punky QB" or "Darth Vader".
Sweeten the ride, black sunshine, sweeten the ride
White Zombie there.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It looks like Rodgers is not pushing him away, just showing him what it's like to experience a high level QB succeeding on his team
To me it looks more like, "This is just the beginning so no hugs yet"
Boston
Footballguy
Regardless of who plays this year I don't think they are winning too many games and I really don't see Jacoby being the reason if they do win...because they don't need to draft a QB it's not as big of a deal if they draft #2 or #5...I do think Maye will get in later this year but they are better off with Jacoby taking the beating for a good chunk of the year...although I would not be surprised to see Maye get in earlier because Jacoby gets hurt...that is just a matter of time with the hits he is taking.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was looking for you, just wanted to tell you that everything you wrote about the Patriots having bigger issues than QB, you're correct and I watched them tonight, nobody is making lemonade back there with that OL, the Jets were almost in his face from the second he got the ball and he's taken some big hits tonight
Appreciate you listing all the issues the other day and tonight much of what you were posting, i can see it with my own eyes.
Not sure when it will be a good time for Maye, still like what Jared Mayo is doing so far with what he has to work with
I thought this was a team that might play like they did the previous couple weeks, it's hard to understand how they beat Cinci and pushed Seattle into OT
Jets might just be good. Pats were a lot better vs Bengals/Seahawks.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I did not realize the pats were this bad.
Manster
Footballguy
I think the jets are good, but the pats are not a good team
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Low scoring game overall tonight, terrible FF night for most that had to use these guys.
38.5/u is looking pretty good
38.5/u is looking pretty good
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Right?!
After watching them it makes me think a lot less of Cinci and Seattle
Boston
Footballguy
Right now it is a pure talent issue and that's not changing and now that there is two games of film on them they will be exposed...that being said and as you point out I like what I see with Mayo as a HC so far and as long as Maye is the real deal I do see a quicker path to being good than I thought I would at this point of the rebuild although it is still early...they will have a ton of $ and another draft to plug some monster holes on offense...on D they are actually pretty good and will hopefully be adding Barmore to budding studs in White and Gonzalez...just gonna have to take a lot of beatings this season.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Why are the starters still in?
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Maye coming in?
Boston
Footballguy
I could see that happening for a series.
dmac37
Footballguy
Not if you started Rodgers and the Jets DSTGiven the state of TE, Conklin might be a top-5 guy this week, with 14.3.
Boston
Footballguy
Looks like he is in...Talk Radio is praying to the Football Gods he looks really good right now...would make for a lot of entertainment for the next week.
Overall he has been getting 30% of the starter's reps in practice so something like this makes a ton of sense.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Drake Maye does not look excited to be here.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Ha, alligator arms on the hospital ball
Army Eye
Footballguy
It looks like Rodgers is not pushing him away, just showing him what it's like to experience a high level QB succeeding on his team
To me it looks more like, "This is just the beginning so no hugs yet"
yeah looks like he is saying 'early' as in too early to celebrate.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
yea. wanted a garbage time td from Douglas
jwb
Footballguy
Risk of getting him hurt, maybe? The Jets weren't going to give up the td easily.
3nOut
Footballguy
Is Rodgers and anyone a good match?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
So the Pats scored all of 3 points, which came on a drive where the Jets committed 50 yards worth of penalties.
These are the Pats we were expecting to see going into the season.
These are the Pats we were expecting to see going into the season.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Never seen a top 3 pick be in a timeshare this fast
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Reminds me of the 2001 Ravens. Oh wait...
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I was watching the game thinking that this might be like an Aaron Jones situation but with an actual competent back as the 40% guy.
Breece still looks like a special player to me. He's sneaky good. Waldman had it nailed right from the jump- his vision, moves and explosiveness look effortless. And the ability to run routes and be explosive in the passing game is really top tier. My main hesitation is that the coaching staff might see super short yardage and start putting Allen out there but to my relief (at least short term), they didn't and I'm hoping that sticks, as I think it should.
Allen isn't as unique a talent but has a physicality and burst that's hard to deny. At the end of the day, football is a physical game and he brings so much physicality. He's not a fun guy to tackle.
Saint
Footballguy
Consider yourself lucky.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Good lord that broadcast was an Aaron Rodgers love fest. He looked good. But jeez the fanboys in the booth need to dial it back a bit.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I don’t see that. AR looks pretty irritatedIt looks like Rodgers is not pushing him away, just showing him what it's like to experience a high level QB succeeding on his team
To me it looks more like, "This is just the beginning so no hugs yet"
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
It's time to put Brissett on the bench.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was trying to be devil's advocate but Karl presented an excellent video that I doubt many will see, I don't think Saleh has much say/control in things like other head coachesI don’t see that. AR looks pretty irritatedIt looks like Rodgers is not pushing him away, just showing him what it's like to experience a high level QB succeeding on his team
To me it looks more like, "This is just the beginning so no hugs yet"
He was a Tight End at one of the directional Michigan schools, i think he understands the OL/DL even if those areas are not quite what they should be or should have been last year for Aaron
-I'm not very impressed with Saleh and I still think he could lose his job midstream this season if the Jets are not near the top of the AFC East
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