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Todd Heap's Last Catch on MNF? (1 Viewer)

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looked like a catch for about 14 yards, but he then lateraled back for a loss of about three. its currently showing as a catch for 11 yards.

not sure how they usually score these plays.

 
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
NFL.COM shows it as a reception of 10 yards then a lateral to Mark Clayton for 1 yard (which would be a rushing yard).
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Actually it would be 1 receiving yard, not rushing. The stat totals have Clayton down for 27 receiving yards. No rushing yards. Occassionally you will see a player with 0 receptions, but still have receiving yards. This is due to laterals.I don't know for sure, but I think Heap's yardage on that play took into account how far he lateralled it back and took those yards away from his stats. Since any given play needs to have the end result yardage add up to the sum of the individual's yardage. So Heap caught about a 13 yard pass, then tossed it back 3 yards (for net of 10 yards towards Heap) to Clayton who then gained 1 yard for a total gain of 11 yards. The other way to do it would be to give Heap 13 yards and Clayton -2 yards. I guess they don't want to penalize the guy who received the lateral since he did gain yardage from the point that he had possession of the ball.

I'm guessing this is what's going on, but maybe someone else can find the exact rule somewhere.

 
Kiko13 said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
NFL.COM shows it as a reception of 10 yards then a lateral to Mark Clayton for 1 yard (which would be a rushing yard).
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Actually it would be 1 receiving yard, not rushing. The stat totals have Clayton down for 27 receiving yards. No rushing yards. Occassionally you will see a player with 0 receptions, but still have receiving yards. This is due to laterals.
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Nope. I know for sure that a pass from the QB that is a "backwards pass" is regarded as rushing yardage. After a lateral by a non-QB (as in this case) I'm not sure but it could only be counted as rushing, not passing.Either way, Heap doesn't get it.

 
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Nope. I know for sure that a pass from the QB that is a "backwards pass" is regarded as rushing yardage. After a lateral by a non-QB (as in this case) I'm not sure but it could only be counted as rushing, not passing.Either way, Heap doesn't get it.
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Nope to your nope. Check stats of any game where there was a lateral. It's receiving yards. If you're right, then why does Clayton have 0 rushing yards and 1 extra receiving yard? Check the stats from Week 4's Jets game where there were like 8 laterals. All receiving yards until the ball was fumbled, at that point all yardage afterwards was credited as fumble return yards.A few years ago, Randy Moss lateraled to someone (I forget who) and the other guy went in for a TD. That player was credited with receiving yards, a receiving TD AND Culpepper was given a passing TD.
 
Kiko is correct. Once a forward pass is made, all yardage, including laterals, is considered passing yards.

Justin McCareins of the Jets actually has 0 receptions this year for 2 yards. He got 2 yards off a lateral on that crazy play to end the Colts-Jets game week 4.

 
2 mins after the catch, yahoo! stat tracker credited it as a 10 or 12 yard reception. That catch gave me the point I needed for a win. 2nd week in a row that Heap helped me win at the end of a Baltimore game. :D

 
Kiko13 said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
NFL.COM shows it as a reception of 10 yards then a lateral to Mark Clayton for 1 yard (which would be a rushing yard).
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Actually it would be 1 receiving yard, not rushing. The stat totals have Clayton down for 27 receiving yards. No rushing yards. Occassionally you will see a player with 0 receptions, but still have receiving yards. This is due to laterals.I don't know for sure, but I think Heap's yardage on that play took into account how far he lateralled it back and took those yards away from his stats. Since any given play needs to have the end result yardage add up to the sum of the individual's yardage. So Heap caught about a 13 yard pass, then tossed it back 3 yards (for net of 10 yards towards Heap) to Clayton who then gained 1 yard for a total gain of 11 yards. The other way to do it would be to give Heap 13 yards and Clayton -2 yards. I guess they don't want to penalize the guy who received the lateral since he did gain yardage from the point that he had possession of the ball.

I'm guessing this is what's going on, but maybe someone else can find the exact rule somewhere.
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Very :goodposting: ...(If it helps - Steve Dallas - if Heap had tossed it only 2 yards back instead of 3... you would have won... it would have been a reception for (13-2) 11 yards for Heap... not a reception for (13-3) 10 yards...)

You have to understand that there can only be one reception... and that the resulting receiving yards needs to add up from the line of scrimmage... hence the yards substraction corresponding to how far the player lateralled it...

It's rushing yards if no forward pass has occured...

 
He caught the ball and lateraled it to another player right after he caught it. Does he he still get credit for the yardage on that catch?

Thx,

Los Diablos.

 
He should get the catch and the yards up to that point but not the yards on the play after the lateral.

 
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