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Tom Brady ONCE AGAIN suspended 4 games (1 Viewer)
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Ted Olsen is a fine lawyer, but he's not a magician. I'd still be very surprised if any petition for en banc hearing or for cert were granted.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Olsen at this point is probably thinking there is no way this is overturned, but he's going to take Brady for as much as he can before that realization sets in.
Good for Olsen.
Good for Olsen.
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The case that won't die continues...
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from ESPN
Tom Brady's legal team will officially file its appeal to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Monday, which is the deadline to do so. On ABC's "Good Morning America", attorney Theodore B. Olson said, "The facts here are so drastic and so apparent that the court should rehear it."
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Tom Brady's legal team will officially file its appeal to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Monday, which is the deadline to do so. On ABC's "Good Morning America", attorney Theodore B. Olson said, "The facts here are so drastic and so apparent that the court should rehear it."
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
I'm glad that the mouth breathers still have their "scandal."
The General
Footballguy
This Ted Olsen dude is surely getting paid an obscene amount of cash but didn't he used to have some highfalutin lawery type job and now has to talk to Mike and Mike about Tom Brady cheating 
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Guy has been married a bunch of times, one of his wives was a passenger on AA Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.This Ted Olsen dude is surely getting paid an obscene amount of cash but didn't he used to have some highfalutin lawery type job and now has to talk to Mike and Mike about Tom Brady cheating
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Day 500 with no end in site.
ESPN has estimated this has cost $22.5 million shared between the NFL, the PA and the Pats.
ESPN has estimated this has cost $22.5 million shared between the NFL, the PA and the Pats.
Ditkaless Wonders
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That is a lot of time and money spent just so Brady can try to maintain his image in and around Boston.
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yes... because Pats fans give a #### what the outcome of this case is, absent the potential for losing brady for a couple games.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
We will find out for sure if any of them take this stinky, stinky bait I lazily threw out there.yes... because Pats fans give a #### what the outcome of this case is, absent the potential for losing brady for a couple games.
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Anarchy99
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This whole thing could have been avoided from jump street if Goodell were honest, All he needed to say was Brady and NE were being penalized for a decade worth of transgressions without launching this big investigation on football deflation. That way, no one could point to reports, findings, evidence, the weather, texts, broken phones, etc. to prove or disprove their side of the case. It would have been allowed by the CBA, 31 other owners and fan bases would have been happy, and the Pats would have little to argue about. All he needed to say was they were handling this internally and this was the punishment he saw fit. Patriots fans would be pi$$ed, but they would have nothing to hang their hat on. But that's not how things went . . .
dparker713
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes...they don't care at all. None of them have been making excises ad nauseum.yes... because Pats fans give a #### what the outcome of this case is, absent the potential for losing brady for a couple games.
And none of them said a thing when the first appeal went his way.
And I bet none of them will post constantly if this one goes well.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Add noted arbitrator Kenneth Feinberg to the list of folks filing as a friend of the court.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/01/noted-arbitrator-kenneth-feinberg-files-brief-in-support-of-tom-brady/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/01/noted-arbitrator-kenneth-feinberg-files-brief-in-support-of-tom-brady/
Franknbeans
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timschochet
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
This is pretty much 100% wrong. How would the CBA have allowed Goodell to punish a player for a decade's worth of an organization's transgressions? Your proposed solution is about 1000 times more vulnerable to legal attack than what the NFL did.
dparker713
Footballguy
This isn't going to turn on the science. It's not particularly important at this point. This is an appellate case now - this will be decided on an interpretation of the law.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Amicus briefs are sometimes relevant, but I'm not sure I really see where they'd mean much here. For instance, the brief from the physicists and engineers is likely irrelevant to the legal question at hand. It literally doesn't matter if Goodell/the NFL completely botched the science.
10 is actually a pretty small number of legal academics to sign on to an amicus, particularly as most labor law professors are pretty pro-union. And the issue isn't really one of "labor law" so much as contract interpretation.
I haven't read Feinberg's brief. Maybe he has a new and novel theory of how Goodell exceeded his authority, but I doubt it's anything we haven't heard already from Kessler and now Olsen.
Amici are most helpful when one small side issue really deserves more attention than it can be given in the parties' briefs. For instance, in Boumedienne (the military commissions GITMO case), an amicus brief addressed whether non-citizens were afforded habeus corpus under English common law. The brief about the experiences of children of same-sex couples was found very persuasive by Judge Posner when the 7th Circuit considered a gay marriage ban.
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