Brady went later than Bree's, Peyton, & Rogers in many leagues this year (because of the drastic changes to his receiving corps); but as the off-season progressed, his new receivers seemed to assert themselves (glowing reports about Amendola, Sudfeld, Thompkins, & Vereen). Brady started t represent (IMO) value. Now, after week 1, we have Amendola hurt, Sudfeld hurt, Vereen on IR, & Thompkins not doing much week 1. With a decimated receiving corps, do you still roll with Brady? I can't see any situation where you can get value in a trade, but do you go with your backup QB? What type of backup would you consider to replace him? Bradford, Cutlet, A Smith, (gulp) Pryor or Manuel?
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Tom Brady-time to jump ship? (1 Viewer)
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Man of Zen
Footballguy
Guy's been a machine, no matter who his weapons are, for like a decade. Dang near 300/2 in week one. There's absolutely no player I'd have on a roster alongside Tom Brady who I'd consider benching him for.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I'm not too excited about him on thursday, so I will probably put in vick, or stafford, but I doubt I'd roll with those slugs you listed, although i haven't looked at match ups.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
SportsGuru311
Footballguy
I think Brady will be just fine. He will still put up monster numbers this year
Pots
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I think you're way over reacting, but I do think he's throwing less tight spirals and the velocity is down on his sideline throws and deep balls. I think he'll be fine regardless of his receivers, but it wouldn't surprise me if his arm strength starts to affect him rather noticeably next year.
Yes, dang near 300/2 (as in not 300/2) with a healthy Vereen & Amendola, who accounted for over 160 of his 288 yards. Vereen is out for at least 10 weeks, and Amendola is out for who knows how long. That leaves Edelman (who could start drawing the opposition's top CB), a rookie TE, and several rookie WRs.
Guy's been a machine, no matter who his weapons are, for like a decade. Dang near 300/2 in week one. There's absolutely no player I'd have on a roster alongside Tom Brady who I'd consider benching him for.
Go back and look at the machine over the last decade. When has he put up significant FF points with this weak/inexperienced a receiving corps
Man of Zen
Footballguy
Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
Who said anything about dropping him?Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
You don't think it is reasonable to think about/discuss this? A QB loses his top 4 receiving threats from the previous season, then two of his top threats in game 1 of the current season, and you don't think it's reasonable to consider that he may not be as productive as he had in the past?
Hybrid
Footballguy
2005 he had a top 3 finish, 2006 a top 10.Yes, dang near 300/2 (as in not 300/2) with a healthy Vereen & Amendola, who accounted for over 160 of his 288 yards. Vereen is out for at least 10 weeks, and Amendola is out for who knows how long. That leaves Edelman (who could start drawing the opposition's top CB), a rookie TE, and several rookie WRs. Go back and look at the machine over the last decade. When has he put up significant FF points with this weak/inexperienced a receiving corps
Guy's been a machine, no matter who his weapons are, for like a decade. Dang near 300/2 in week one. There's absolutely no player I'd have on a roster alongside Tom Brady who I'd consider benching him for.
Hybrid
Footballguy
Gronk should be back soon, Amendola seems fine to come back next week, and the Pats threw 52 times. He won't be top 5 IMO, but top 10 is likely.Who said anything about dropping him?You don't think it is reasonable to think about/discuss this? A QB loses his top 4 receiving threats from the previous season, then two of his top threats in game 1 of the current season, and you don't think it's reasonable to consider that he may not be as productive as he had in the past?Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor. 
dead serious.
dead serious.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
top 10 would be great if my league had 32 playersGronk should be back soon, Amendola seems fine to come back next week, and the Pats threw 52 times. He won't be top 5 IMO, but top 10 is likely.Who said anything about dropping him?You don't think it is reasonable to think about/discuss this? A QB loses his top 4 receiving threats from the previous season, then two of his top threats in game 1 of the current season, and you don't think it's reasonable to consider that he may not be as productive as he had in the past?Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Look past week 2 and what do you see? Gronk amendola edelman. Vareen hurts but preseason projections didnt figure on gronk week 3. Thompkins and the rest are window dressing. Youre gonna get 35 tds and 4000 yards as a floor.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
If you've already got a QB you think will be top 5, go ahead and start him instead. That seems reasonable.top 10 would be great if my league had 32 playersGronk should be back soon, Amendola seems fine to come back next week, and the Pats threw 52 times. He won't be top 5 IMO, but top 10 is likely.Who said anything about dropping him?You don't think it is reasonable to think about/discuss this? A QB loses his top 4 receiving threats from the previous season, then two of his top threats in game 1 of the current season, and you don't think it's reasonable to consider that he may not be as productive as he had in the past?Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
Don't. Come on man.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not if his name is Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or ManningWho said anything about dropping him?You don't think it is reasonable to think about/discuss this? A QB loses his top 4 receiving threats from the previous season, then two of his top threats in game 1 of the current season, and you don't think it's reasonable to consider that he may not be as productive as he had in the past?Yeah, I got no horse in this race. Drop him if you got an inkling. I think it's a world class bad idea. I said "dang near" specifically to account for the fact that he actually accounted for 1 FF point less than that, but I wouldn't think that point would sour you on the guy.
If you don't believe, you don't believe. I wish you luck. I suspect you'll need it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
The Raiders ineptitude has infected their fansBenching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
That is true, but the NFL is a different league now. His FF points from those seasons would have mde him QB 13 & 21 last year. 28 TDs probably won't be top10 this year.I will probably stick with him, because my backup isn't a great replacement, but I don't think it is crazy if you have a solid back up QB (Vick, Eli, etc).2005 he had a top 3 finish, 2006 a top 10.Yes, dang near 300/2 (as in not 300/2) with a healthy Vereen & Amendola, who accounted for over 160 of his 288 yards. Vereen is out for at least 10 weeks, and Amendola is out for who knows how long. That leaves Edelman (who could start drawing the opposition's top CB), a rookie TE, and several rookie WRs. Go back and look at the machine over the last decade. When has he put up significant FF points with this weak/inexperienced a receiving corps
Guy's been a machine, no matter who his weapons are, for like a decade. Dang near 300/2 in week one. There's absolutely no player I'd have on a roster alongside Tom Brady who I'd consider benching him for.
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Longtime Pats fan and I'm concerned...for this week.
No Amendola, No Gronk, No Vereen, short week, K. Thompkins not yet on the same page.
NYJ D isn't a pushover. And it's not as if Ryan doesn't know this team.
My opponent this week has Brady and I'm actually hoping he plays him. Upside with Brady is limited this week while taking a flyer on one of Manuel or Pryor could reap 30+ points.
Expect a low scoring game where the Pats somehow find a way to win (most likely on some stupid G. Smith mistake).
No Amendola, No Gronk, No Vereen, short week, K. Thompkins not yet on the same page.
NYJ D isn't a pushover. And it's not as if Ryan doesn't know this team.
My opponent this week has Brady and I'm actually hoping he plays him. Upside with Brady is limited this week while taking a flyer on one of Manuel or Pryor could reap 30+ points.
Expect a low scoring game where the Pats somehow find a way to win (most likely on some stupid G. Smith mistake).
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I hate to say it but this is my exact train of thought and I can see myself rolling with Pryor vs. JAC this week. I watched all of the NE/BUF game and the offense looked out of sync WITH a healthy Amendola, Vereen and Sudfeld (for however long he was healthy).
It seems absolutely crazy but at the same time totally logical.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
I think you and some others here are over-reacting. You think starting a rookie QB over Brady actually makes sense?
Besides Edleman, he'll have KT, Dobson and Boyce out there, and whyle they are rooks, Brady will find them.
Shutout
Footballguy
Well there is the kiss of death. The fantasy football gods must smite you now, just on principle alone.
Start Brady with confidence, people. He will now assuredly go for 350/3. Be sure to thank this sacrificial lamb who blasphemies the golden one.
Shutout
Footballguy
I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
The funny part is if the jets had sanchez this week theyd probably win big.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
you're worried about Brady, in a game at home, where the Pats are favored by 12pts with a 44 o/u? if ever there was a time to start him with confidence it's Thursday night. 
Clifford
Footballguy
Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
LolRacist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Take the under...jets double edelman. 24-13 pats with a pick 6 by the pats D.
adrenaline
Footballguy
Yes, I normally drop my studs after they've had a bad game.
Run It Up
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
What if the dog was black?Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
He did not look good in game 1, there were a lot of throws off the mark. Something to keep an eye on early in the year until they get in the flow.
Just like any stud, playing the matchups can work in your favor sometimes, other times they explode and you curse yourself.
Shutout
Footballguy
Well, she is a Boston Terrier named Gisele...What if the dog was black?Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
J/K. THat was funny Clifford..good one.
Spike
Footballguy
The Raiders ineptitude has infected their fansBenching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
socrates
Footballguy
Tom Brady continues to produce, season after season, regardless of who lines up at receiver. I learned many years ago, as a former Dan Marino fantasy owner, not to overanalyze the quality of the targets, and just trust your stud QB. Tom Brady will be just fine. If you are fortunate enough to have him leading your fantasy team, just set him in your lineup, and forget about it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
How would you know? That is only the dog's hair, it just happens to cover his entire body.dickey moe said:What if the dog was black?Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
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Clifford
Footballguy
Uncle Tom?dickey moe said:What if the dog was black?Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
Skin less arbitrary than hair?How would you know? That is only the dog's hair, it just happens to cover his entire body.dickey moe said:What if the dog was black?Racist dog...I have a 5 month old puppy who, given three chances, put his paw on the picture of Tom Brady when given the choice of Brady or Pryor just now. Dead serious.Benching Tom Brady this week for Terrelle Pryor.
dead serious.
Doubtingthomas
Footballguy
You should of drafted him as a mid level starter qb6ish. He will be that but dont expect him to carry your team.
That's my point. I did draft him there, but I saw the upside for more (based on pre-season reports about Thompkins, Sudfeld, Vereen, Amendola, etc). Since Thompkins and Sudfeld underwhelmed in game 1, and Vereen and Amendola are hurt, I don't necessarily see the upside.Let's assume we are talking about a mid-low level QB1 not named "Tom Brady." If this hypothetical QB lost two of his top receivers in the 1st game, would it not make sense to consider replacing him with a back-up QB? Is it just the fact that his name is "Tom Brady" that is sparking such outrage?
Man of Zen
Footballguy
When Dan Marino was 36, he was coming off two injury plagued seasons, the most recent of which saw him light up the scoreboard for 2800/17, and was going undrafted in fantasy drafts.
Apples to Platypuses.
