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Silly, the Patriots O is not better than the Jet's D. I might give you a even ranking, but not greater... The Jets D has proven even with a week 1 loss that any, and I mean any QB WR1 will have a sub par day against them. Kris Jenkins or not. I would be very suprised if Brady exceeds 250 yards and 1 TD and 1INT
Im actually benching him for Orton against the Seahawks..
Agreed, the only way NE beats NY is to throw early and often and I believe they will have better than decent production. IMO, Moss will have his best day yet against Revis, but that aint saying a whole heck of a lot and I would be looking for other options if I owned him.
Define "bunch of other Legit receiving options" I don't see much very scary past Welker.
Cromartie and Wilson, while they made mistakes Monday night are an UPGRADE at the 2nd and 3rd CB position for the Jets. It makes their secondary better than last year.
Gronk and Hernandez both showed something in their first games, Faulk is always a threat and had a sweet sideline play and even Tate looks like he has the goods. Are you saying the Patriots are lacking in this area?
I don't know how that's definitive.
Brandon Tate is already much better than Sam Aiken. The TE's- Crupler, Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski- as rookies- are better than Watson and Chris Baker last year. Brady looks much, much better than last year.He is stepping into throws. Last year, outside of Moss and Welker, NE did not have anyone that could beat another player (even a nickel or a linebacker) in single coverage except Kevin Faulk. Hernandez is a tough match up for a safety or a backer- as is Gronkowski in the red zone. Tate will have an advantage over most dome db's. I don't know what is going to happen in this game- but NE's pass offense will be better and more precise than last year's offense. I think that they have improved on offense much more than the Jets have improved on defense.
Sorry but I think this is really overthinking FF lineups.If you are "afraid" to play one of the best quarterbacks in the league, why draft him?The weather is fine this week, Revis can only cover one guy, you saw how bad the other Jet DBs were.......PLAY Brady (or not your team but I don't see much merit to the topic)
When someone says Legit receiving options I am not talking about someone who "looks like the have the goods" and yes I am saying that the Patriots lack depth in proven "legit" receivers after Moss and Welker
Oh, I forgot Edleman.ETA: When someone says legit D, who would you use as an example?
You do realize Boldin (the Ravens WR1) had 110 yards and Flacco had 250 yards. Last year Brady averaged 260 yards against them and he was in the first year back from a major injury. His worst game was only the 2nd game back since he was able to walk again. In addition to Brady being back to form the Pats have better receiving options this year.
Just returning the favor.
As already mentioned, they have Faulk, Edelman, the 2 rookie TEs and Brandon Tate. Faulk is about as proven as you can get as a pass receiving RB and Edelman showed well last year in place of Welker. Granted, the latter three haven't had enough playing time to show much on the NFL level, but they all project out to be at least decent receiving threats based on their college performances and early NFL returns. So that's 7 guys total that are legitimate options to catch the ball. Not sure what more you can ask for out of a passing game
this is what im thinking.Brady looks like his old self. might be overthinking it by sitting him.
He missed the entire 2008 season. I don't think his complete confidence/accuracy was 100% in week 2 in a hostile away game. Revis Island might be big enough to cover Moss, but Welker had 192 yds in their 2nd game last year. Welker looks healthy and Brady looked on point vs. Cincy. I'd start him with confidence.
Now that makes sense... First good argument to start Brady I have heard...
It's not "silly" lol. I think the Patriots will win the game (Patriots O better than the Jets D from what I saw last weak) and thats not even talking about the anemic Jets offense and/or in part because of their weak O, more snaps for the Pats. Revis is not in "mid-season" form no matter what they say and the Pats will throw a lot. The Patriots will have Welker running around, 2 good TE's in the mix, and Moss stretching the field, maybe even Edelman and Tate.... If you tweak your own projection, how about 275/2, those are decent numbers that I would take. No doubt the Jets D is dominant but I'm not sitting Brady and predict an unusually strong game statistically.
Haha, now it's getting good.Keep it going guys. This shtick is great!Sitting Brady -Sitting Moss -
MossWelkerTateHernandezGronkowskiEdelmanFaulkMorrisTaylorYah, its pretty much just Welker.
The Patriots offense is more than just Moss, and there's only one Revis. Welker already showed what he could do if the team focused on stopping Moss. Edelman also racked up yardage while Welker was out in the first game between the two teams in '09. No need to get snippy about it.Since last year, Brady is healthier, Edelman has a year under his belt as a WR and the Patriots now get Tate, Hernandez and Gronkowski, and showed they can use the two TEs very effectively. Meanwhile, the Jets got Kyle Wilson and Cromartie. As much as I like the Jets' corners, I'll take the Pats every day of the week in that matchup.
First off about Revis... Quote from Don Banks Story on SI.com "Holdout or no holdout, Revis was his usual impenetrable self, and the Ravens barely tested him." So please do not start by saying Brady will be able to pick on Revis because of his holdout. NO ONE is in mid-season form as it is the beginning of the season.SI Jets Ravens
Try telling that to the Greene and Turner owners..the 1st week proved that ASYS is an old and tired theory. Gotta be willing to change it up a bit if you have bench players with decent matchups when your studs are playing against top-5 defenses.
you are making my point for me bud... How many of those guys are on your team (even bench players) as a WR besides Moss and Welker?MossWelkerTateHernandezGronkowskiEdelmanFaulkMorrisTaylorYah, its pretty much just Welker.
Just because they might have been your first and second picks at the position doesn't make them studs. Greene and Turner were promising RB1 prospects but have hardly achieved 'stud' status yet, if they ever do. There are only a handful of players at each position that rate 'stud' status. Brady is one of them at QB. Certainly he may have an off week, but if you play the 'bench him based on matchup' game you are going to lose more often than not.
Thread has gotten kinda silly, but I would say it is bit incongruous to state matter of fact on the one hand that the NYJs have upgraded their secondary with Cromartie & Wilson and on the other hand imply as if you do not believe NE has improved their passing game with Crumpler, Gronk, Hernandez & Tate. Should be a great game
I know someone will counter that Brady had a very good game vs. Buffalo in 2009 week 1. But for most people, I think it's reasonable to assume that it's easier to have full confidence/perfect mechanics vs. a team who doesn't rush the passer that well like Buffalo (where no one is diving towards your leg after a catastrophic injury) vs. a team who is one of the best at blitz packages. Yes, the Jets will blitz this year, but as long as Brady has the confidence his leg is healthy, he should be fine.
Are they playing this game last year?Brady will have two TD's in the first quarter alone on Sunday. And one or both will go to Moss while he's being "shut down" by Revis.
