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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (1 Viewer)

Just catching up after some time away from the internets. I didnt' know or like most of the first 30+ but now youre at least doing bands I've heard before. I was more into the metal bands of the time not so much the hair bands. I don't think hairbands were a thing then-we just called them posers.

 
Raging weasel said:
Just catching up after some time away from the internets. I didnt' know or like most of the first 30+ but now youre at least doing bands I've heard before. I was more into the metal bands of the time not so much the hair bands. I don't think hairbands were a thing then-we just called them posers.
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Weird thing about the whole hair metal genre is that it was almost totally driven by aesthetics. Many (most?) of those bands were just plain old rock/hard rock bands that got all glammed up for whatever reason. Just of the bands listed already, Warrant, Kix, Extreme, hell even WASP aren't really heavy metal IMO. 

 
Poor, poor @plinko.  Wandering the hinterlands of Eastern Washington while the rest of us wait impatiently.

 
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I'm alive!

Man the govment is all up in my grill this week, I'm in my third hotel in as many nights.  

I had really hoped to at least have time to do one or two a day! But the work and driving and time difference are taking a toll on an old man.. ready to work something up here for the Wednesday late shift though.

 
This is impact, a lot of bands like Warrant came up wanting to be

40. Y&T 

I don't know how to do these guys much else in the way of justice, other than to say, their first few records were some pretty outstanding hard rock.  They peaked early, by 1987 they seemed to be trying to catch the wave with Contagious, which I kind of liked but I would prefer, like with most of these acts I guess, the earlier, grittier sound.. albums that were out in '81-'83, well before I ever heard of them.

Solid live reputation.. I haven't had the pleasure

the posty minute:  

With the death of guitarist Joey Alves in March 2017, Dave Meniketti is the last surviving member of the band's classic lineup (1974–1986), which also included bassist Phil Kennemore (d. 2011) and drummer Leonard Haze (d. 2016).
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Rescue Me

Black Tiger

Mean Streak  I need that shirt Dave Meniketti

Full show, 1985 - settle in!

 
39. Great White

You know I'll keep it kind and gentle.. though truth be told even back in the eighties these LA natives had a reputation as among the most jackholiest in an ocean of jackholes.  One or two super punchable faces here.

But, anyway.. They were good, not great.  Indisputably white.

Earlier stuff.. Streetkiller

Face The Day

Rock Me . . only an all-timer

Save Your Love better ballad than Angel Song

Never loved OBTS but here it is for completists

DEATHS, yes there were deaths  100 dead and 230 injured can still make you shudder..

 
plinko said:
39. Great White

DEATHS, yes there were deaths  100 dead and 230 injured can still make you shudder..
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Two of my old high school teammates, same grade actually, died in that fire. Another classmate from same year went with them, he survived with nasty burns. 

I always felt terrible for Great White in that whole thing. The venue was a clown show-- foam egg crate sound insulation on the ceiling? Why not just use rags dipped in turpentine? 

 
I know @plinko tends to get annoyed by Chuck Klosterman, but I can't read about Great White without thinking of Klosterman's Killing Yourself to Live.

He visited the site of the Station fire and talks to/drinks with people in the community that were effected and juxtaposes them against the music snobs and scenesters he interacts with in NYC - the kind of people who make snarky jokes about people burning alive while seeing Great White.  

“The same people came here every night,” Richardson says. “When a band like Great White or Warrant would come into town, all the same people would come out. There was never any pretentiousness at this club. You wouldn’t have to worry about some drunk guy yelling about how much your band sucked.”

To me, that’s what makes the Great White tragedy even sadder than it logically should be: One can safely assume that none of the 100 people who died were hanging out at the Station to be cool. These were trying unironically to experience rock ‘n’ roll that had meant something to their lives when they were teenagers.
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So this thread has inspired me to grab a book that has been on my “want to read” list for a bit. Nothin But a Good Time: The Uncensored History of the ‘80s Hard Rock Explosion

I’m half way through, and it is amazing. It is almost all interviews, very little author narrative, but the interviews are intertwined into cohesive stories. For example,  It covers Quiet Riot on the west coast while flashing over to Twisted Sister on the east coast.  It tells the stories of bands like GnR, but from the interviews of not just the band members, but the other players like Tracii Guns, etc. highly recommend it!

 
TripItUp said:
Always thought of these guys as total wankers.  Their biggest hit wasn't even metal.  Hard pass on these tools.
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The self-titled black album was very good, changed their sound after that.  GW was opening for some pretty big acts in the 80’s, I remember them with Judas Priest.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Yeah it is! We never need to hear Once Bitten ever again, but this song... :headbang:
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I mean these are some classic lyrics

You didn't know what rock 'n' roll was
Until you met my drummer on the grey tour bus
I got there in the nick of time
Before he got his hands across your state line, yeah

You didn't know how rock 'n' roll looked
Until you caught your sister with the guys from the group
Halfway home in the parkin' lot
By the look in her eye she was givin' what she got

 
Dan Lambskin said:
I mean these are some classic lyrics

You didn't know what rock 'n' roll was
Until you met my drummer on the grey tour bus
I got there in the nick of time
Before he got his hands across your state line, yeah

You didn't know how rock 'n' roll looked
Until you caught your sister with the guys from the group
Halfway home in the parkin' lot
By the look in her eye she was givin' what she got
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I used to be a big Ian Hunter/Mott The Hoople fan but not Ian's best work imo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Bitten,_Twice_Shy

 
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I got to see "Great White" before they were Great White.  The band called Dante Fox played at my High School in So. Cal. either 1979 or 1980.  I think they had a female singer at the time.  I don't remember much, but I do think I liked them

 
Hmm - I assumed that White Lion would be on here somewhere, but now that Great White has shown up and we're in the top 40, I'm not sure whether they're 101 or 38.

 
foxco said:
Really like Summertime Girls, just a fun, happy song. No, it's not metal but a solid pop rock tune. 
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First song I thought of when I saw Y&T. I bought this cassette way back when on a clearance rack at Kmart. 86 or 87 prolly. It was my introduction to every band on it other than Bon Jovi and Quiet Riot. Great tunes, and inspired my undying love for Queensryche and Judas Priest.

 
plinko said:
This is impact, a lot of bands like Warrant came up wanting to be

40. Y&T 

I don't know how to do these guys much else in the way of justice, other than to say, their first few records were some pretty outstanding hard rock.  They peaked early, by 1987 they seemed to be trying to catch the wave with Contagious, which I kind of liked but I would prefer, like with most of these acts I guess, the earlier, grittier sound.. albums that were out in '81-'83, well before I ever heard of them.

Solid live reputation.. I haven't had the pleasure

the posty minute:  

Rescue Me

Black Tiger

Mean Streak  I need that shirt Dave Meniketti

Full show, 1985 - settle in!
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Really liked these guys when they first hit the scene in the early '80s. That opening riff to "Mean Streak" was powerful and infectious.

Sad that all but Menketti have passed. Not sure how they died, but they didn't strike me as a band that lived and partied hard like some of their compatriots did.

 
Dying in a fire is one of the worst ways to go. I have a hard time wrapping my head around people that joke about it because of pop culture taste. I was unaware that it was a joke, though I couldn't help but wonder at the time who the heck was going to see Great White. But at least I could abstract out that they were people. I wonder if that wasn't just morning crew "shock jocks" just looking to be "funny" for their hateful audiences. I have a hard time imagining people really getting off on those jokes.

Anyway, I'll end that one. 

 
scorchy said:
I know @plinko tends to get annoyed by Chuck Klosterman, but I can't read about Great White without thinking of Klosterman's Killing Yourself to Live.

He visited the site of the Station fire and talks to/drinks with people in the community that were effected and juxtaposes them against the music snobs and scenesters he interacts with in NYC - the kind of people who make snarky jokes about people burning alive while seeing Great White.  
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I think that's very true. Further, as someone who never liked metal of any kind, and really mocked hair metal, i had a completely different attitude towards everyone involved when they hit the nostalgia years. 

It feels like there's a sweetness to the whole scene really. It's pretty niche at this point, being mean to someone at a hair metal show these days is like picking on a guy at ComicCon. 

 
Say what you want about Great White, but Save All Your Love was always part of any mix tape when you were looking for some sexy time with a girl. Just sayin...

 
zamboni said:
Really liked these guys when they first hit the scene in the early '80s. That opening riff to "Mean Streak" was powerful and infectious.

Sad that all but Menketti have passed. Not sure how they died, but they didn't strike me as a band that lived and partied hard like some of their compatriots did.
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Wow, didn’t realize that.  

 
I would have bet tens of dollars that there was a VH1 Behind The Music about Great White that just played on a loop for like 18 months straight. I can hear the sad music and announcer and everything.

Wikipedia is telling me otherwise. 

 
plinko said:
39. Great White
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Say what you want about Great White -- and all of the musical criticism is deserved, I'd agree. BUT.....I would also argue this: their 1990 unplugged cover of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" had reverberations that influenced the music biz in ways that they don't get credit for:

1. it opened the floodgates for Led Zeppelin covers. From 1969 to 1990, very few artists covered Zep. But once "BIGLY" started getting AOR airplay, suddenly it became en vogue for anyone (in any genre) to put their spin on Zep's music.

2. it was the first "unplugged" performance to get mainstream attention, and it showed the industry that: A) you could remove the electric instruments without sacrificing quality; and B) an acoustic performance didn't have to be an afterthought -- that it could be a showcase experience on its own merits.  Paul McCartney often gets credit for jumpstarting the unplugged fad, but Great White made it viable a year earlier. McCartney, Clapton, Rod Stewart, KISS and all the others owe a bit of a tip-of-the-cap to Great White.

3. (relating to #1 and #2) if not for this performance, then I think the Page/Plant reunion special in 1994 might have gone differently, or might not have happened at all. MTV wanted nothing to do with Robert Plant or Jimmy Page in 1990, but once they saw the resurgence in popularity of Zep and unplugged performances, they started pestering Plant to make an appearance.

 
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The show is a pretty good watch too
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I'm enjoying it. Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but it's a fun time. Cena totally crushes it.

EDIT: Those with kids, this show is a hard R. Naked Cena having the sech and more than a few naked up tops.

 
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Surprised by the Great White love.  I know their earlier stuff is better, but still don't love it.  Also, the lead singer just rubs me the wrong way.

 
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TripItUp said:
Surprised by the Great White love.  I know their earlier stuff is better, but still don't love it.  Also, the lead singer just rubs me the wrong way.
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Touring now days, there are 2 versions of Great White. There is Great White which features Mark Kendall on guitar and a new singer and then there's Jack Russell's Great White which features him. I was Mark's version a few years back and they were pretty good. (not that it would sway you since you don't like them anyways.)

 
SteevieG said:
I got to see "Great White" before they were Great White.  The band called Dante Fox played at my High School in So. Cal. either 1979 or 1980.  I think they had a female singer at the time.  I don't remember much, but I do think I liked them
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Alot about Dante Fox/ Great White in the book i posted up thread. I guess I never knew how early they arrived in the LA strip scene. After Van Halen and then Quiet Riot, the next wave was really Motley, Ratt and Great White. 

 
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Ty Longley replaced the original guitar player in Great White.  My brother played in a band with Ty in HS and knew Ty was destined for more than a local band.    He was a nice, quiet kid that dedicated his life to guitar and practiced for hours before and after school every day.  

Ty’s family was so happy for Ty when he got the GW gig because he could earn a living doing what he loved.   Crazy how horribly wrong things can go in an instant. 

 
rockaction said:
Dying in a fire is one of the worst ways to go. I have a hard time wrapping my head around people that joke about it because of pop culture taste. I was unaware that it was a joke, though I couldn't help but wonder at the time who the heck was going to see Great White. But at least I could abstract out that they were people. I wonder if that wasn't just morning crew "shock jocks" just looking to be "funny" for their hateful audiences. I have a hard time imagining people really getting off on those jokes.

Anyway, I'll end that one. 
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my cousin died in a fire when I was a kid but I still laughed at great white jokes

i have a pretty sick sense of humor though 

 
MindCrime said:
Alot about Dante Fox/ Great White in the book i posted up thread. I guess I never knew how early they arrived in the LA strip scene. After Van Halen and then Quiet Riot, the next wave was really Motley, Ratt and Great White. 
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What wave are you putting Def Leppard in?

 
MindCrime said:
So this thread has inspired me to grab a book that has been on my “want to read” list for a bit. Nothin But a Good Time: The Uncensored History of the ‘80s Hard Rock Explosion

I’m half way through, and it is amazing. It is almost all interviews, very little author narrative, but the interviews are intertwined into cohesive stories. For example,  It covers Quiet Riot on the west coast while flashing over to Twisted Sister on the east coast.  It tells the stories of bands like GnR, but from the interviews of not just the band members, but the other players like Tracii Guns, etc. highly recommend it!
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I second that!

 
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