Top 12 selections in startup dynasty league (1 Viewer)

[Pimpin Ain't Easy]

QB - Ben Roethlisberger - 5.03

QB - Alex Smith - 14.06

RB - Reggie Bush - 1.03

RB - LenDale White - 6.01

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 1.09

WR - Laveranues Coles - 7.03

WR - Antonio Bryant - 7.09

WR - Matt Jones - 8.10

WR - Chad Jackson - 9.03

WR - Eddie Kennison - 11.03

WR - Santonio Holmes - 11.09

TE - Jeremy Shockey - 5.12

TE - Ben Troupe - 10.10

TE - Marcedes Lewis - 12.10

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Updated. The decision to take Marcedes Lewis over Matt Schaub could cost me. I certainly didn't need a third TE, but I decided to stick with my strategy of taking the best talent available with each pick. Everyone will say that this team has no chance in the short term, but I think I can field a pretty respectable starting lineup:

QB - Ben Roethlisberger

RB - Reggie Bush

WR - Larry Fitzgerald

FLEX - Laveranues Coles

FLEX - Eddie Kennison

FLEX - Antonio Bryant/LenDale White/Matt Jones/Santonio Holmes/Ben Troupe

TE - Jeremy Shockey

If these guys play like I expect them to, then I'll be pretty tough right away, and my team should only get stronger in the coming years. That's exactly how I like to build my squads.

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High hopes my man. Just way too young, and there are too many solid teams out there for you to be that competitive right away.

I like alot of the players you drafted, just not all on the same squad.

JAA, your team is solid, but you got a case of the high hopes too.

After looking at some of the other teams, your gonna need a few breaks to make the playoffs, but thats just my opinion. At the same time if you do catch those breaks, you will be a force once you do make the playoffs.

 

[BlueOnion]

Just added Duckett in the 8th. Not necessarily a 2006 pick as I expect most of my return on this pick to come in 2007 and after. Duckett is a free agent in 8 months and I expect him to sign with a team that will feature him and he will run with a chip on his shoulder. Just more random speculation.

QB

Peyton Manning 2.05

RB

Cadillac Williams 1.06

LenDale White 4.01

Tatum Bell 6.08

TJ Duckett 8.08

WR

Marvin Harrison 3.05

Plaxico Buress 4.10

Koren Robinson 7.03

 

[EBF]

QB - Ben Roethlisberger - 5.03

QB - Alex Smith - 14.06

RB - Reggie Bush - 1.03

RB - LenDale White - 6.01

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 1.09

WR - Laveranues Coles - 7.03

WR - Antonio Bryant - 7.09

WR - Matt Jones - 8.10

WR - Chad Jackson - 9.03

WR - Eddie Kennison - 11.03

WR - Santonio Holmes - 11.09

TE - Jeremy Shockey - 5.12

TE - Ben Troupe - 10.10

TE - Marcedes Lewis - 12.10

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Updated. The decision to take Marcedes Lewis over Matt Schaub could cost me. I certainly didn't need a third TE, but I decided to stick with my strategy of taking the best talent available with each pick. Everyone will say that this team has no chance in the short term, but I think I can field a pretty respectable starting lineup:

QB - Ben Roethlisberger

RB - Reggie Bush

WR - Larry Fitzgerald

FLEX - Laveranues Coles

FLEX - Eddie Kennison

FLEX - Antonio Bryant/LenDale White/Matt Jones/Santonio Holmes/Ben Troupe

TE - Jeremy Shockey

If these guys play like I expect them to, then I'll be pretty tough right away, and my team should only get stronger in the coming years. That's exactly how I like to build my squads.

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High hopes my man. Just way too young, and there are too many solid teams out there for you to be that competitive right away.

I like alot of the players you drafted, just not all on the same squad.

JAA, your team is solid, but you got a case of the high hopes too.

After looking at some of the other teams, your gonna need a few breaks to make the playoffs, but thats just my opinion. At the same time if you do catch those breaks, you will be a force once you do make the playoffs.

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You might be right, but I've certainly heard that before. Keep in mind that a lot of these teams are going to flop miserably when their early pick RBs underperform and/or get hurt. Remember my Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, and Deuce McAllister three-headed monster in the PDFFL last year? Looked great on paper. Didn't do squat on the field. The same thing happens every year. Teams bank on unproven RBs. Half of them flop within a year or two. Obviously I took a risk myself when I selected Bush, but I made sure to surround him with a strong base of proven talent (Fitzgerald, Roethlisberger, Shockey, Coles, Bryant). When the dust clears and other teams' picks have flopped, I feel like I'll still be standing there with a strong squad. We'll see how it goes.

 

[EBF]

I say most would go something like this -

1) Larry Johnson

2) LT2

3) Shaun Alexander

4) Clinton Portis

5) Carnell Williams

6) Reggie Bush

7) Stephen Jackson

8) Lamont Jordan

9) Ronnie Brown

10) Edgerrin James

11) Larry Fitzgerald

12) Chad Johnson

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Hmm... I wouldn't draft the following players in the first round of a dynasty:Shaun Alexander (29 going into this season)

LaMont Jordan

Edge (far too old)

Chad Johnson (not insanely good enough to take ahead of an RB)

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So who do you take instead of Johnson and Jordan?
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My top ten for our league looked like this:1. Fitzgerald

2. Tomlinson

3. Gates

4. L. Johnson

5. C. Johnson

6. Bush

7. Holt

8. Manning

9. Boldin

10. Portis

Way too much value is being placed on young RBs. Chad Johnson is much more likely to give you consistent production than LaMont Jordan or Ronnie Brown.

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Then, why did you take Bush at 1.3, not Fitz?
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Because I knew Fitz would be there at 1.09. Also, the reason I didn't draft Gates at 1.09 is because I knew I could get Shockey or Heap in the 6th.

 

[EBF]

I say most would go something like this -

1) Larry Johnson

2) LT2

3) Shaun Alexander

4) Clinton Portis

5) Carnell Williams

6) Reggie Bush

7) Stephen Jackson

8) Lamont Jordan

9) Ronnie Brown

10) Edgerrin James

11) Larry Fitzgerald

12) Chad Johnson

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Hmm... I wouldn't draft the following players in the first round of a dynasty:Shaun Alexander (29 going into this season)

LaMont Jordan

Edge (far too old)

Chad Johnson (not insanely good enough to take ahead of an RB)

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So who do you take instead of Johnson and Jordan?
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My top ten for our league looked like this:1. Fitzgerald

2. Tomlinson

3. Gates

4. L. Johnson

5. C. Johnson

6. Bush

7. Holt

8. Manning

9. Boldin

10. Portis

Way too much value is being placed on young RBs. Chad Johnson is much more likely to give you consistent production than LaMont Jordan or Ronnie Brown.

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The problem with your theory here is that we arent drafting just 1 player, or just 1 WR. Our starting lineup requirements are 1-1-1-1-1-1 w 3 FLEX (RB, WR, or TE)
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I'm not sure that I see your point. If anything, our lineup requirements make TEs and WRs even more valuable than they normally are. The only reason RBs are usually such a hot commodity is because most leagues start 2 RBs. In that format, it makes sense to use your 2nd-4th round picks on RBs because there are only 32 starting RBs in the NFL and every team in your league needs to start two of them. In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

 

[cscmtp]

QB Ben Roethlisberger 8.02

QB Jake Delhomme 9.11

RB Reggie Bush 1.11

RB Cedric Benson 3.11

RB DeAngelo Williams 4.02

RB Maurice Drew 11.11

RB Jerious Norwood 13.11

RB Brian Calhoun 14.02

WR Larry Fitzgerald 2.02

WR Braylon Edwards 5.11

WR Donte' Stallworth 6.02

WR Laveranues Coles 7.11

WR Brandon Marshall 15.11

WR Joe Jurevicius 16.02

TE Kellen Winslow 10.02

TE Marcaded Lewis 12.02

LOTS of youth...

 

[Family Matters]

Time to review my mess and see what you guys think:

QB: Plummer

QB Warner

QB Cutler

RB: LJ

RB: Addai

RB: Foster

RB: M.Moore

WR: S.Moss

WR: Driver

WR: Mason

WR: Bennett

WR: Curtis

TE: Gonzo

TE: Hilton

PK: Vinatieri

D/ST: Carolina

I know the RB's are thin but with only having to start 1 I can do well and LJ is as good as they come. If Addai gets more than 50% of the carries and Foster stays healthy then I am ok.

My QB is iffy but I feel Warner will do well this year.

My WR's look pretty solid. Moss, Driver & Mason all have 1000+ capability. If Bennett is healthy he too can do 900-1000. Curtis is clearly the future start in STL.

TE looks solid with Gonzo now and Hilton for the future.

May not look exciting but this team can compete.

 

[BlueOnion]

In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

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I think there is a lot of truth to this. Whenever I review my old drafts from previous years, it seems like the top 5 drafted running backs are continually in flux. Ahman Green, Jamal Lewis, Ricky Williams, Eddie Goerge, etc... There are some exceptions (Priest for 3 years, Shaun for 4). However at wide receiver the top tier guys were the same year in and year out; Moss, Harrison and T.O. Chad Johnson has recently joined the group and Larry Fitz is not far behind.Realistically, how long can you expect LT2 and Larry Johnson to maintain their pace? And how long do you expect Larry Fitzgerald and Chad Johnson to maintain their pace?

 

[Family Matters]

In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

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I think there is a lot of truth to this. Whenever I review my old drafts from previous years, it seems like the top 5 drafted running backs are continually in flux. Ahman Green, Jamal Lewis, Ricky Williams, Eddie Goerge, etc... There are some exceptions (Priest for 3 years, Shaun for 4). However at wide receiver the top tier guys were the same year in and year out; Moss, Harrison and T.O. Chad Johnson has recently joined the group and Larry Fitz is not far behind.Realistically, how long can you expect LT2 and Larry Johnson to maintain their pace? And how long do you expect Larry Fitzgerald and Chad Johnson to maintain their pace?

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Well this is a great debate. Your point makes sense at first until you look down the road at what's left in the later rounds.Even in leagues whereby you only have to start 1 RB, the RB demand will still be high. The reason is due to the number of touches they recieve. When a player is getting 18-24 touches per game is odds of scoring are better than a player who see the ball 4-5 time per game.Back to supply and demand. When you look at the drop off of players taken at RB versus WR in the first to third rounds, you find the obvious conclusion:

There will be few RB's worth having. But there will be good WR's still available.

So if you draft with BPA in mind and that happens to be WR/WR in the first 2 rounds then what willl you have to draft in round 3? If you're drafting a RB ranked say 18-30, then this is the player you're counting on to anchor the RB1 spot all year. You are already behind the 8ball with your team unless 2 things happen:

1. You get lucky with your RB and he out produces his draft position and you get good back ups. That usually happens when other RB's get injured so that's a risky approach.

2. Your WR needs to outproduce their draft position.

When these 2 things happen you can pull it off. In the 8 years I've been playing I haven't very many succeed with that approach.

Lastly, discounting RB's because the top 5 changes frequently from year to year is putting yourself in a no-win situation. By not drafting RB's, for whatever reason, you ensure that your RB's will not perform as needed. Why put yourself in that position.

So you can always find good WR's. You have to work at getting good RB's.

 

[EBF]

In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

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I think there is a lot of truth to this. Whenever I review my old drafts from previous years, it seems like the top 5 drafted running backs are continually in flux. Ahman Green, Jamal Lewis, Ricky Williams, Eddie Goerge, etc... There are some exceptions (Priest for 3 years, Shaun for 4). However at wide receiver the top tier guys were the same year in and year out; Moss, Harrison and T.O. Chad Johnson has recently joined the group and Larry Fitz is not far behind.Realistically, how long can you expect LT2 and Larry Johnson to maintain their pace? And how long do you expect Larry Fitzgerald and Chad Johnson to maintain their pace?

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Well this is a great debate. Your point makes sense at first until you look down the road at what's left in the later rounds.Even in leagues whereby you only have to start 1 RB, the RB demand will still be high. The reason is due to the number of touches they recieve. When a player is getting 18-24 touches per game is odds of scoring are better than a player who see the ball 4-5 time per game.Back to supply and demand. When you look at the drop off of players taken at RB versus WR in the first to third rounds, you find the obvious conclusion:

There will be few RB's worth having. But there will be good WR's still available.

So if you draft with BPA in mind and that happens to be WR/WR in the first 2 rounds then what willl you have to draft in round 3? If you're drafting a RB ranked say 18-30, then this is the player you're counting on to anchor the RB1 spot all year. You are already behind the 8ball with your team unless 2 things happen:

1. You get lucky with your RB and he out produces his draft position and you get good back ups. That usually happens when other RB's get injured so that's a risky approach.

2. Your WR needs to outproduce their draft position.

When these 2 things happen you can pull it off. In the 8 years I've been playing I haven't very many succeed with that approach.

Lastly, discounting RB's because the top 5 changes frequently from year to year is putting yourself in a no-win situation. By not drafting RB's, for whatever reason, you ensure that your RB's will not perform as needed. Why put yourself in that position.

So you can always find good WR's. You have to work at getting good RB's.

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I agree. It's a question of opportunity cost. That's why I took Reggie Bush with my first pick and also why I gambled on LenDale White in the 6th. That said, I think a lot of the teams who gambled on unproven RBs are going to wish they had played it safe and taken a WR, QB, or TE.

 

[BlueOnion]

In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

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I think there is a lot of truth to this. Whenever I review my old drafts from previous years, it seems like the top 5 drafted running backs are continually in flux. Ahman Green, Jamal Lewis, Ricky Williams, Eddie Goerge, etc... There are some exceptions (Priest for 3 years, Shaun for 4). However at wide receiver the top tier guys were the same year in and year out; Moss, Harrison and T.O. Chad Johnson has recently joined the group and Larry Fitz is not far behind.Realistically, how long can you expect LT2 and Larry Johnson to maintain their pace? And how long do you expect Larry Fitzgerald and Chad Johnson to maintain their pace?

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Well this is a great debate. Your point makes sense at first until you look down the road at what's left in the later rounds.Even in leagues whereby you only have to start 1 RB, the RB demand will still be high. The reason is due to the number of touches they recieve. When a player is getting 18-24 touches per game is odds of scoring are better than a player who see the ball 4-5 time per game.Back to supply and demand. When you look at the drop off of players taken at RB versus WR in the first to third rounds, you find the obvious conclusion:

There will be few RB's worth having. But there will be good WR's still available.

So if you draft with BPA in mind and that happens to be WR/WR in the first 2 rounds then what willl you have to draft in round 3? If you're drafting a RB ranked say 18-30, then this is the player you're counting on to anchor the RB1 spot all year. You are already behind the 8ball with your team unless 2 things happen:

1. You get lucky with your RB and he out produces his draft position and you get good back ups. That usually happens when other RB's get injured so that's a risky approach.

2. Your WR needs to outproduce their draft position.

When these 2 things happen you can pull it off. In the 8 years I've been playing I haven't very many succeed with that approach.

Lastly, discounting RB's because the top 5 changes frequently from year to year is putting yourself in a no-win situation. By not drafting RB's, for whatever reason, you ensure that your RB's will not perform as needed. Why put yourself in that position.

So you can always find good WR's. You have to work at getting good RB's.

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I agree with you in what you are saying, but in the scope of a dynasty league I think you are better off taking the running backs later who will eventually dominant in two years instead of the guys who have dominanted for two years.

 

[JohnnyU]

My team so far -

1.05 Reggie Bush, NO RB

1.12 Johnson, Chad CIN WR

2.04 Holt, Torry STL WR

3.06 Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.01 Heap, Todd BAL TE

7.10 Bulger, Marc STL QB

8.10 Dayne, Ron DEN RB

9.12 Plummer, Jake DEN QB

10.1 Moats, Ryan PHI RB

Edited to add recent picks.

 

[BlueOnion]

My team so far -

1.05  Reggie Bush, NO RB

1.12  Johnson, Chad CIN WR

2.04  Holt, Torry STL WR 

3.06  Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.01  Heap, Todd BAL TE 

7.10  Bulger, Marc STL QB 

8.10  Dayne, Ron DEN RB

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I like your core guys, Bush, Johnson and Holt. Benson was also a solid pick.

 

[Family Matters]

My team so far -

1.05  Reggie Bush, NO RB

1.12  Johnson, Chad CIN WR

2.04  Holt, Torry STL WR 

3.06  Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.01  Heap, Todd BAL TE 

7.10  Bulger, Marc STL QB 

8.10  Dayne, Ron DEN RB

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This team could be great or mediocre based on what happens with your RB's. You are taking alot of risk that have to pan out on unproven backs in order for this work well.Bush-if he is the real deal then he's a great pick.

Benson-I believe he's going to be given every chance to succeed and there's no reason he won't.

Dayne-who knows what will happen but you can't feel anything but uneasy with him. Even if he's the man this year what will happen next year?

Bulger-has yet to play 16 games and that's a concern.

CJ and Holt are money.

So if you get the breaks to go your way this is a great team. To expect all 4 risky players to work out is a dangerous game of chance that you will have to win first before you can win in the league.

Good luck! I like your approach. Clearly you're willing to take some risks and I hope it works out for you.

 

[cstu]

QB

4.11 - Carson Palmer

6.09 - Ben Roethlisberger

9.05 - Philip Rivers

RB

1.09 - Steven Jackson

4.07 - Thomas Jones

4.09 - Deuce McAllister

9.01 - Chris Brown

12.08 - Cedric Houston

13.01 - Mewelde Moore

WR

5.01 - Lee Evans

8.11 - Antonio Bryant

8.12 - Troy Williamson

14.11 - Isaac Bruce

14.12 - Vincent Jackson

TE

4.12 - Jeremy Shockey

D

15.01 - Carolina Panthers

+5 extra 2007 1st round picks.

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[EBF]

QB

Carson Palmer

Ben Roethlisberger

RB

Steven Jackson

Thomas Jones

Deuce McAllister

Chris Brown

WR

Lee Evans

Antonio Bryant

Troy Williamson

TE

Jeremy Shockey

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+6 2007 1st round picks.
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I like the Bryant pick. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more respect. He's a young #1 WR with a track record of production on some very poor teams. If he can polish the rough edges of his game and eliminate some of the drops then he can be a consistent top 20 WR in the NFL.

 

[jeter23]

Roster update--

QB Eli Manning 5.02

Phillip Rivers 10.11

Matt Schaub 13.02

Steve McNair 16.11

RB LT 1.02

DDavis 2.11

D Williams 3.02

Turner 7.02

Jerious Norwood 12.11

Ced Houston 14.11

Betts 17.02

WR Plaxico Burress 4.11

Reggie Brown 6.11

Koren Robinson 9.02

Joey Galloway 11.02

TE Heath Miller 8.11

Dominique Byrd 15.02

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Still early, but I like how my trades have put me in good positions.

QB:

5.05  McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

9.05    Brees, Drew NO QB

RB:

1.08  Jordan, Lamont OAK RB

3.08  Droughns, Reuben CLE RB

3.10  Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

9.02    Taylor, Fred JAX RB

WR:

3.09  Wayne, Reggie IND WR

6.07  Brown, Reggie PHI WR

7.06  Mason, Derrick BAL WR

7.08  Stallworth, Donte' NOS WR

TE:

3.01  Gates, Antonio SDC TE

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Lineup update.

 

[JohnnyU]

Still early, but I like how my trades have put me in good positions.

QB:

5.05  McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

9.05    Brees, Drew NO QB

RB:

1.08  Jordan, Lamont OAK RB

3.08  Droughns, Reuben CLE RB

3.10  Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

9.02    Taylor, Fred JAX RB

WR:

3.09  Wayne, Reggie IND WR

6.07  Brown, Reggie PHI WR

7.06  Mason, Derrick BAL WR

7.08  Stallworth, Donte' NOS WR

TE:

3.01  Gates, Antonio SDC TE

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Lineup update.
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dat's a goot team

 

[Pimpin Ain't Easy]

QB

Carson Palmer

Ben Roethlisberger

RB

Steven Jackson

Thomas Jones

Deuce McAllister

Chris Brown

WR

Lee Evans

Antonio Bryant

Troy Williamson

TE

Jeremy Shockey

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+6 2007 1st round picks.
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I like the Bryant pick. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more respect. He's a young #1 WR with a track record of production on some very poor teams. If he can polish the rough edges of his game and eliminate some of the drops then he can be a consistent top 20 WR in the NFL.
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News Flash Funk! Bryant is still on a very poor team.

 

[EBF]

QB

Carson Palmer

Ben Roethlisberger

RB

Steven Jackson

Thomas Jones

Deuce McAllister

Chris Brown

WR

Lee Evans

Antonio Bryant

Troy Williamson

TE

Jeremy Shockey

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+6 2007 1st round picks.
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I like the Bryant pick. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more respect. He's a young #1 WR with a track record of production on some very poor teams. If he can polish the rough edges of his game and eliminate some of the drops then he can be a consistent top 20 WR in the NFL.
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News Flash Funk! Bryant is still on a very poor team.
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That didn't stop him last year. Bryant has played with nothing but scrubs at QB and has still managed to be productive since he first stepped on the field. Nolan sees him as a #1 type WR. If Alex Smith develops like the coaching staff hopes he will, then that team could be pretty respectable pretty soon.

The bottom line is that Antonio Bryant is a 25 year old #1 WR who has produced at every stop of his career. He's been a fringe starter for the past two years and he has the potential to be much more than that once he matures a bit. I think he's a solid value in dynasty drafts.

 

[SofaKings.]

Same draft as EBF/Jeter23 and Family Matters:

QB

1.04 Matt Hasselbeck

11.04 Charlie Frye

17.04 Jon Kitna

RB

3.04 Willie Parker

1.04 Shaun Alexander

2.09 Tiki Barber

8.09 Ryan Moats

9.04 Brandon Jacobs

13.04 Maurice Morris

WR

4.09 Andre Johnson

5.04 Braylon Edwards

12.09 Charles Rogers

15.04 Amani Toomer

16.09 Brandon Stokely

TE

7.04 Alge Crumpler

10.09 Ben Watson

D/ST

14.09 TB Buccaneers

K

18.09 Josh Brown

 

[JohnnyU]

I love how everyone tries to justify their draft, both short term and long term. I really get a kick out of it. I also don't need approval of my drafted team. It is what it is, and I don't really think anyone gives a s-.-i-t about my team, just as I don't really care about yours either. However, it is funny watching others justify their picks.

 

[coolnerd]

I love how everyone tries to justify their draft, both short term and long term.  I really get a kick out of it. I also don't need approval of my drafted team.  It is what it is, and I don't really think anyone gives a s-.-i-t about my team, just as I don't really care about yours either.  However, it is funny watching others justify their picks.

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[Jeff Pasquino]

Still early, but I like how my trades have put me in good positions.

QB:

5.05  McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

9.05    Brees, Drew NO QB

RB:

1.08  Jordan, Lamont OAK RB

3.08  Droughns, Reuben CLE RB

3.10  Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

9.02    Taylor, Fred JAX RB

WR:

3.09  Wayne, Reggie IND WR

6.07  Brown, Reggie PHI WR

7.06  Mason, Derrick BAL WR

7.08  Stallworth, Donte' NOS WR

TE:

3.01  Gates, Antonio SDC TE

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Lineup update.
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dat's a goot team
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Thank you sir. Moving up in the draft always helps.

 

[Patoons]

I love how everyone tries to justify their draft, both short term and long term.  I really get a kick out of it. I also don't need approval of my drafted team.  It is what it is, and I don't really think anyone gives a s-.-i-t about my team, just as I don't really care about yours either.  However, it is funny watching others justify their picks.

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I recall you "justifying" your reggie bush selection?

 

[cscmtp]

Thoughts on this team? 2 picks left...

QB Ben Roethlisberger PIT 0.00 8.02 3 4

QB Jake Delhomme CAR 0.00 9.11 3 9

QB Jason Campbell WAS 0.00 18.02 3 8

RB Reggie Bush FA 0.00 1.11 3 0

RB Cedric Benson CHI 0.00 3.11 3 7

RB DeAngelo Williams FA 0.00 4.02 3 0

RB Maurice Drew FA 0.00 11.11 3 0

RB Jerious Norwood FA 0.00 13.11 3 0

RB Brian Calhoun FA 0.00 14.02 3 0

WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 0.00 2.02 3 9

WR Braylon Edwards CLE 0.00 5.11 3 6

WR Donte' Stallworth NOS 0.00 6.02 3 7

WR Laveranues Coles NYJ 0.00 7.11 3 9

WR Brandon Marshall FA 0.00 15.11 3 0

WR Joe Jurevicius SEA 0.00 16.02 3 5

TE Kellen Winslow CLE 0.00 10.02 3 6

TE Marcaded Lewis FA 0.00 12.02 3 0

TE Zach Hilton NOS 0.00 19.11 3 7

PK Mike Vanderjagt IND 0.00 20.02 3 6

DT Washington Redskins WAS 0.00 17.11 3 8

 

[cstu]

QB

Carson Palmer

Ben Roethlisberger

RB

Steven Jackson

Thomas Jones

Deuce McAllister

Chris Brown

WR

Lee Evans

Antonio Bryant

Troy Williamson

TE

Jeremy Shockey

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+6 2007 1st round picks.
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I like the Bryant pick. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more respect. He's a young #1 WR with a track record of production on some very poor teams. If he can polish the rough edges of his game and eliminate some of the drops then he can be a consistent top 20 WR in the NFL.
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News Flash Funk! Bryant is still on a very poor team.
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That didn't stop him last year. Bryant has played with nothing but scrubs at QB and has still managed to be productive since he first stepped on the field. Nolan sees him as a #1 type WR. If Alex Smith develops like the coaching staff hopes he will, then that team could be pretty respectable pretty soon.

The bottom line is that Antonio Bryant is a 25 year old #1 WR who has produced at every stop of his career. He's been a fringe starter for the past two years and he has the potential to be much more than that once he matures a bit. I think he's a solid value in dynasty drafts.

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That's all it was to me. He came into the league very young and had some attitude issues, but despite not having great QB's he has produced. I think his 1000 yard season last year was just the beginning since he's young and has a great opportunity to develop along with Smith.

 

[cstu]

Thoughts on this team? 2 picks left...

QB  Ben Roethlisberger  PIT  0.00    8.02    3  4 

QB  Jake Delhomme  CAR  0.00    9.11    3  9 

QB  Jason Campbell  WAS  0.00    18.02    3  8 

RB  Reggie Bush  FA  0.00    1.11    3  0 

RB  Cedric Benson  CHI  0.00    3.11    3  7 

RB  DeAngelo Williams  FA  0.00    4.02    3  0 

RB  Maurice Drew  FA  0.00    11.11    3  0 

RB  Jerious Norwood  FA  0.00    13.11    3  0 

RB  Brian Calhoun  FA  0.00    14.02    3  0 

WR  Larry Fitzgerald  ARI  0.00    2.02    3  9 

WR  Braylon Edwards  CLE  0.00    5.11    3  6 

WR  Donte' Stallworth  NOS  0.00    6.02    3  7 

WR  Laveranues Coles  NYJ  0.00    7.11    3  9 

WR  Brandon Marshall  FA  0.00    15.11    3  0 

WR  Joe Jurevicius  SEA  0.00    16.02    3  5 

TE  Kellen Winslow  CLE  0.00    10.02    3  6 

TE  Marcaded Lewis  FA  0.00    12.02    3  0 

TE  Zach Hilton  NOS  0.00    19.11    3  7 

PK  Mike Vanderjagt  IND  0.00    20.02    3  6 

DT  Washington Redskins  WAS  0.00    17.11    3  8

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Are you going to rename your team to "Logan's Run"?

 

[cscmtp]

 

[cstu]

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Thoughts on this team? 2 picks left...

QB  Ben Roethlisberger  PIT  0.00    8.02    3  4 

QB  Jake Delhomme  CAR  0.00    9.11    3  9 

QB  Jason Campbell  WAS  0.00    18.02    3  8 

RB  Reggie Bush  FA  0.00    1.11    3  0 

RB  Cedric Benson  CHI  0.00    3.11    3  7 

RB  DeAngelo Williams  FA  0.00    4.02    3  0 

RB  Maurice Drew  FA  0.00    11.11    3  0 

RB  Jerious Norwood  FA  0.00    13.11    3  0 

RB  Brian Calhoun  FA  0.00    14.02    3  0 

WR  Larry Fitzgerald  ARI  0.00    2.02    3  9 

WR  Braylon Edwards  CLE  0.00    5.11    3  6 

WR  Donte' Stallworth  NOS  0.00    6.02    3  7 

WR  Laveranues Coles  NYJ  0.00    7.11    3  9 

WR  Brandon Marshall  FA  0.00    15.11    3  0 

WR  Joe Jurevicius  SEA  0.00    16.02    3  5 

TE  Kellen Winslow  CLE  0.00    10.02    3  6 

TE  Marcaded Lewis  FA  0.00    12.02    3  0 

TE  Zach Hilton  NOS  0.00    19.11    3  7 

PK  Mike Vanderjagt  IND  0.00    20.02    3  6 

DT  Washington Redskins  WAS  0.00    17.11    3  8

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Are you going to rename your team to "Logan's Run"?
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[Jeff Pasquino]

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/
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I think this gives cscmtp's age away..... or lack thereof.

BTW - what ever happened to vowels?

 

[cscmtp]

still not getting your joke. I assume you're dogging my team though...

 

[cscmtp]

I'm 35, i've never seen the movie. What's your point?

 

[cstu]

still not getting your joke. I assume you're dogging my team though...

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Well, 4 out of 5 of your RB's are rookies and the other one is in his 2nd year - that's what stood out. Also, all of them look like they'll start the year as backups or in RBBC. Good team long-term, but I think you'll have a tough first season.

 

[cscmtp]

Agreed. Thoughts on my QBs,WRs, and TEs?

 

[cstu]

Agreed. Thoughts on my QBs,WRs, and TEs?

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Very solid at QB - Roethlisberger was a steal in the 8th (I got him at 6.09). Delhomme is getting older, but should be good for a few more years and by that time Ben could be top fantasy QB. Campbell is a good young guy to have as a 3rd QB. Fitz is obviously a stud and should remain one for a decade if he stays healthy. I like Edwards more in 2007 than now because of his ACL and having a young QB. He should still put up ok numbers, but in a couple years he could be a top 10 WR. Stallworth was a good pick, maybe a little high, but he's got huge potential if Brees is healthy.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm 35, i've never seen the movie. What's your point?

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Easy there cscmtp.The point is in the movie Logan's Run, they start killing off anyone over a certain age, I think 30.

So everyone in the society is young.

That's the joke - your team is young.

 

[Pimpin Ain't Easy]

I love how everyone tries to justify their draft, both short term and long term.  I really get a kick out of it. I also don't need approval of my drafted team.  It is what it is, and I don't really think anyone gives a s-.-i-t about my team, just as I don't really care about yours either.  However, it is funny watching others justify their picks.

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I recall you "justifying" your reggie bush selection?

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That is funny.......My team so far -

1.05 Reggie Bush, NO RB

1.12 Johnson, Chad CIN WR

2.04 Holt, Torry STL WR

3.06 Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.01 Heap, Todd BAL TE

7.10 Bulger, Marc STL QB

8.10 Dayne, Ron DEN RB

9.12 Plummer, Jake DEN QB

10.1 Moats, Ryan PHI RB

Isn't that YOUR team Johnny U???

 

[vikingdave]

QB - Ben Roethlisberger - 5.03

QB - Alex Smith - 14.06

RB - Reggie Bush - 1.03

RB - LenDale White - 6.01

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 1.09

WR - Laveranues Coles - 7.03

WR - Antonio Bryant - 7.09

WR - Matt Jones - 8.10

WR - Chad Jackson - 9.03

WR - Eddie Kennison - 11.03

WR - Santonio Holmes - 11.09

TE - Jeremy Shockey - 5.12

TE - Ben Troupe - 10.10

TE - Marcedes Lewis - 12.10

Where do I start? Big Ben in the 5th is not a good pick, he isnt a great FF QB, he is on a run first offense, if he was your backup thats OK, but as your #1 QB and in the 5th round, are you kidding me?

Bush and White as your only RBs, your screwed, and Bush at 1.5 is another bad pick IMO, just hasnt proven anything to warrant being picked over Alexander and Portis among others.

All you have at WR is Fitz, he is a stud and will be for years, but no way I want to have to rely on Coles or Kennison or Bryant on a consitent basis.

Your TEs are solid though.....

 

[cstu]

QB - Ben Roethlisberger - 5.03

QB - Alex Smith - 14.06

RB - Reggie Bush - 1.03

RB - LenDale White - 6.01

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 1.09

WR - Laveranues Coles - 7.03

WR - Antonio Bryant - 7.09

WR - Matt Jones - 8.10

WR - Chad Jackson - 9.03

WR - Eddie Kennison - 11.03

WR - Santonio Holmes - 11.09

TE - Jeremy Shockey - 5.12

TE - Ben Troupe - 10.10

TE - Marcedes Lewis - 12.10

Where do I start? Big Ben in the 5th is not a good pick, he isnt a great FF QB, he is on a run first offense, if he was your backup thats OK, but as your #1 QB and in the 5th round, are you kidding me?

Bush and White as your only RBs, your screwed, and Bush at 1.5 is another bad pick IMO, just hasnt proven anything to warrant being picked over Alexander and Portis among others.

All you have at WR is Fitz, he is a stud and will be for years, but no way I want to have to rely on Coles or Kennison or Bryant on a consitent basis.

Your TEs are solid though.....

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As someone that took Big Ben at 6.09 I figure I'll defend the pick, even if it was a little early for both of us. Yes, Ben is in a run first offense, but it's only been his 1st two years in the league and the Steelers pass attempts have been dead last in the league. I suppose that could continue the rest of his career, but I think it's more likely that as Ben matures as a QB that the Steelers will pass a little more. They'll never be the Rams but I think Ben's numbers his first two years are the worst he'll have and he has been the #21 and #19. Add in the fact that he's so young and already extremely proven, I think he's one of the safest QB picks you can make in a dynasty.

 

[JohnnyU]

I love how everyone tries to justify their draft, both short term and long term.  I really get a kick out of it. I also don't need approval of my drafted team.  It is what it is, and I don't really think anyone gives a s-.-i-t about my team, just as I don't really care about yours either.  However, it is funny watching others justify their picks.

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I recall you "justifying" your reggie bush selection?

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That is funny.......My team so far -

1.05 Reggie Bush, NO RB

1.12 Johnson, Chad CIN WR

2.04 Holt, Torry STL WR

3.06 Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.01 Heap, Todd BAL TE

7.10 Bulger, Marc STL QB

8.10 Dayne, Ron DEN RB

9.12 Plummer, Jake DEN QB

10.1 Moats, Ryan PHI RB

Isn't that YOUR team Johnny U???

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Why Jeff, I believe it is.

 

[cscmtp]

Pimpin Ain't Easy how did you get a 2nd first round pick? Tell me it cost you more than just a 4th and 5th rounder....

 

[cscmtp]

and thank you for explaining the Logan's Run concept Jeff Pasquino. That IS funny.

 

[JAA]

JAA, your team is solid, but you got a case of the high hopes too.

After looking at some of the other teams, your gonna need a few breaks to make the playoffs, but thats just my opinion. At the same time if you do catch those breaks, you will be a force once you do make the playoffs.

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Ill talk more about this when I do my write up, but I have gone out of my way to get youth, ability, and most importantly ... garunteed points. Brooks, Moss, Branch, TB RBs, and some combo of Bell/Brown/Taylor are garunteed points. I dont need to wish for that. Other teams also have garunteed points with Fitz, Gates, Portis, LT2, etc, however, they dont a) have as many, b) have the added youth.I dont need Bell, Brown, and Taylor to all be RB1's. If I can get 1 of them to be a RB1 and 1 of them to be a RB2, added to my other players, I will be much farther up the curve than my opponents. Their draft position was as RB1's, but remember, I had 4 picks in the top 30 so I got 3 of them (plus Moss) while others picked less behind me.

Its like buying lottery tickets. THe more you buy, the better chances you have of winning. A lot of other teams bought 1 maybe 2 lottery tickets. I bought 3 lottery tickets to go with already proven winners.

 

[JAA]

QB - Ben Roethlisberger - 5.03

QB - Alex Smith - 14.06

RB - Reggie Bush - 1.03

RB - LenDale White - 6.01

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 1.09

WR - Laveranues Coles - 7.03

WR - Antonio Bryant - 7.09

WR - Matt Jones - 8.10

WR - Chad Jackson - 9.03

WR - Eddie Kennison - 11.03

WR - Santonio Holmes - 11.09

TE - Jeremy Shockey - 5.12

TE - Ben Troupe - 10.10

TE - Marcedes Lewis - 12.10

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Updated. The decision to take Marcedes Lewis over Matt Schaub could cost me. I certainly didn't need a third TE, but I decided to stick with my strategy of taking the best talent available with each pick. Everyone will say that this team has no chance in the short term, but I think I can field a pretty respectable starting lineup:

QB - Ben Roethlisberger

RB - Reggie Bush

WR - Larry Fitzgerald

FLEX - Laveranues Coles

FLEX - Eddie Kennison

FLEX - Antonio Bryant/LenDale White/Matt Jones/Santonio Holmes/Ben Troupe

TE - Jeremy Shockey

If these guys play like I expect them to, then I'll be pretty tough right away, and my team should only get stronger in the coming years. That's exactly how I like to build my squads.

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High hopes my man. Just way too young, and there are too many solid teams out there for you to be that competitive right away.

I like alot of the players you drafted, just not all on the same squad.

JAA, your team is solid, but you got a case of the high hopes too.

After looking at some of the other teams, your gonna need a few breaks to make the playoffs, but thats just my opinion. At the same time if you do catch those breaks, you will be a force once you do make the playoffs.

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You might be right, but I've certainly heard that before. Keep in mind that a lot of these teams are going to flop miserably when their early pick RBs underperform and/or get hurt. Remember my Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, and Deuce McAllister three-headed monster in the PDFFL last year? Looked great on paper. Didn't do squat on the field. The same thing happens every year. Teams bank on unproven RBs. Half of them flop within a year or two. Obviously I took a risk myself when I selected Bush, but I made sure to surround him with a strong base of proven talent (Fitzgerald, Roethlisberger, Shockey, Coles, Bryant). When the dust clears and other teams' picks have flopped, I feel like I'll still be standing there with a strong squad. We'll see how it goes.

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This is a good post. Injuries can kill a team. However, this has nothing to do with drafting strategy.

 

[JAA]

I say most would go something like this -

1) Larry Johnson

2) LT2

3) Shaun Alexander

4) Clinton Portis

5) Carnell Williams

6) Reggie Bush

7) Stephen Jackson

8) Lamont Jordan

9) Ronnie Brown

10) Edgerrin James

11) Larry Fitzgerald

12) Chad Johnson

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Hmm... I wouldn't draft the following players in the first round of a dynasty:Shaun Alexander (29 going into this season)

LaMont Jordan

Edge (far too old)

Chad Johnson (not insanely good enough to take ahead of an RB)

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So who do you take instead of Johnson and Jordan?
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My top ten for our league looked like this:1. Fitzgerald

2. Tomlinson

3. Gates

4. L. Johnson

5. C. Johnson

6. Bush

7. Holt

8. Manning

9. Boldin

10. Portis

Way too much value is being placed on young RBs. Chad Johnson is much more likely to give you consistent production than LaMont Jordan or Ronnie Brown.

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The problem with your theory here is that we arent drafting just 1 player, or just 1 WR. Our starting lineup requirements are 1-1-1-1-1-1 w 3 FLEX (RB, WR, or TE)
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I'm not sure that I see your point. If anything, our lineup requirements make TEs and WRs even more valuable than they normally are. The only reason RBs are usually such a hot commodity is because most leagues start 2 RBs. In that format, it makes sense to use your 2nd-4th round picks on RBs because there are only 32 starting RBs in the NFL and every team in your league needs to start two of them. In our league, there's not as much incentive to gamble on RBs because you only need to start one of them. RBs still offer the greatest points advantage if you happen to pick the right ones, but I think that advantage is offset by their volatility (injuriy-prone, short careers).

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RBs scoring is easier to predict over WRs. Are you familiar with Value Based Drafting? Have you ever changed the starting RB requirements for the Draft Dominctor/Excel Spreadsheet? What happens?

 

[JAA]

Roster update--

QB  Eli Manning  5.02

      Phillip Rivers 10.11

        Matt Schaub  13.02

        Steve McNair  16.11

RB    LT  1.02

        DDavis  2.11

        D Williams  3.02

        Turner  7.02

        Jerious Norwood 12.11

        Ced Houston 14.11

        Betts  17.02

WR  Plaxico Burress  4.11

      Reggie Brown  6.11

      Koren Robinson  9.02

        Joey Galloway  11.02

TE    Heath Miller  8.11

        Dominique Byrd  15.02

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Solid squad with lots of upsideI like your young WRs, love KRob. You are deep at RB. I dont like the Betts pick, more on that another time

 

[Pimpin Ain't Easy]

Pimpin Ain't Easy how did you get a 2nd first round pick? Tell me it cost you more than just a 4th and 5th rounder....

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I only had 1 first round pick.