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Top 20 WR's going forward.... (1 Viewer)

biggamer3

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The actual draft means nothing now, this is my rankings from today on, some studs from seasons past are barely even top 40 now. I ranked the top 20 IMO and put the tiers where i see them

1 Roddy White

2 Andre Johnson

3 Miles Austin

4 Calvin Johnson

5 Brandon Marshall

6 Reggie Wayne

7 Hakeem Nicks

8 Boldin

9 Colston

10 Welker

11 Jeremy Maclin

12 Percy Harvin

13 Santana Moss

14 Terrell Owens

15 Randy Moss

16 Desean Jackson

17 Kenny Britt

18 Mike Williams Seahawks

19 Greg Jennings

20 Hines Ward

This is my list, guys like Lloyd, Floyd, Bowe, Ocho were outside my top 20 because going forward i dont see them ahead of any of the names i have on this list.

 
DeSean Jackson is either top 10 or completely off the list, depending on whether you expect him to play out of the bye week.

 
The actual draft means nothing now, this is my rankings from today on, some studs from seasons past are barely even top 40 now. I ranked the top 20 IMO and put the tiers where i see them1 Roddy White 2 Andre Johnson3 Miles Austin4 Calvin Johnson5 Brandon Marshall6 Reggie Wayne7 Hakeem Nicks8 Boldin9 Colston10 Welker11 Jeremy Maclin12 Percy Harvin13 Santana Moss14 Terrell Owens15 Randy Moss16 Desean Jackson17 Kenny Britt18 Mike Williams Seahawks19 Greg Jennings20 Hines WardThis is my list, guys like Lloyd, Floyd, Bowe, Ocho were outside my top 20 because going forward i dont see them ahead of any of the names i have on this list.
Welker way down, Jennings way up, I think I still put Wayne in top tier. Also Brandon Marshall is allergic to the end zone, he can't really be considered elite especially if its not PPR. Pretty fair list overall
 
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Very solid list IMO. Only a couple things I see differently.

I think D-Jax is a a little low. I like him more than Maclin, and other than Wayne, probably more than anyone outside of tier one.

No Mike Wallace? Big Ben looks like a top-5 QB going forward, and the passing game really only seems to go through two guys in Pittsburgh.

 
I also like Garcon going forward as a top 20 and possibly top 10. With Collie and Clark injured, he's the # 2 man on a team that loves to pass and has the best qb in football.

 
welker top 10 :P
Welker hasn't done much the last 4 weeks....I'm assuming he's on your roster and that's why you're saying this. I don't see it. Randy Moss leaving hurt him big time
Nope dont own Welker in any league, but he is currently in the top 20 in my leagues and i just see him performing better, no real basis other then feel, i guess I put him too high. As for Colston, he usually has his no show weeks every season then strings together a bunch of good games. I see him as a stud going forward
 
DeSean Jackson is either top 10 or completely off the list, depending on whether you expect him to play out of the bye week.
his injury status makes him a not top 10 but being he is just a week or two away he is still top 20 IMO
I surely may be wrong, but my guess is either he is healthy enough to play in week 9, or he will be done for the year. The scenario in which an extra week or two off allows him to return seems unlikely. Just 100% speculation though.
 
As an owner of Maclin and Santana Moss, I don't see either of them ranked that high, but the rest of your list looks pretty good to me. Santana Moss might rank highly in PPR leagues, but he's pretty mediocre in non-PPR

 
DeSean Jackson is either top 10 or completely off the list, depending on whether you expect him to play out of the bye week.
his injury status makes him a not top 10 but being he is just a week or two away he is still top 20 IMO
If he's two weeks away from playing, then he won't play any fewer games than Maclin, since the Eagles are on bye next week.
 
As an owner of Maclin and Santana Moss, I don't see either of them ranked that high, but the rest of your list looks pretty good to me. Santana Moss might rank highly in PPR leagues, but he's pretty mediocre in non-PPR
Should have mentioned this was meant to be a PPR ranking and Santana has been damn consistent
 
Needs TB Williams top 18. I'd say drop Welker and Maclin. And Wallace has a shot. Also, Fitz should go in there between 15 and 20 IMO.

 
Nice list by the OP. Kind of a preview of what we might expect to compare and contrast to Dodd's 250 going forward.

First glance, I think I agree with others that Welker is way too high. The passing personality of the Patriots is different now that they don't have Moss as a deep threat. I also don't think that Britt has the stability at QB or the work ethic to carry his success forward.

My list looks like this:

1. Andre Johnson

2. Roddy White

3. Calvin Johnson

4. Reggie Wayne

5. Miles Austin

6. Brandon Marshall

7. Hakeem Nicks

8. Anquan Boldin

9. Randy Moss

10 Mike Williams (SEA)

11 Larry Fitzgerald

12 Greg Jennings

13 DeSean Jackson

14 Hines Ward

15 Terrell Owens

16 Marques Colston

17 Santana Moss

18 Pierre Garcon

19 Mike Wallace

20 Jeremy Maclin

 
I also think Garcon will finish top 20. BMW is a tough call as he has been lighting it up past 2 weeks.. Fitz should be fringe 20 (my #1 oof), Welker too high-he's falling due to Hernandez, Woody doing what he does. Colston too high(Very inconsistent plus Bush back soon), Jennings too low-past inconsistencies should be history with Finley INJ.. I think Wallace (since we're talking PPR) will be just outside along with Fitz. Less deep passing to come with bad weather. Really hate that T.O. will probably finish on this list; guys a tool.

 
Needs TB Williams top 18. I'd say drop Welker and Maclin. And Wallace has a shot. Also, Fitz should go in there between 15 and 20 IMO.
I totally see reasons for wallace to be top 20, but explain to me why Fitz would go over Welker or Maclin? Welker has looked bad so far and is till looking much better then Fitz. Brady will still get Welker involved in passing game, who exactly will be throwing to Fitz?
 
DeSean with Vick is top 10 easily.

Welker and Colston won't finish in the top twenty.

I love Marshall, he'll have a few monster games the rest of the way, but I'd put him around 10-15.

Guys whose situations have improved over the last couple weeks and should be strong down the stretch: Jennings, Wallace, Garcon, Wayne, S. Smith (Car), Evans/Johnson.

 
Seems a lot of people are anointing SEA Mike Williams after these past two games. I'll grant you he's been very good. I can't image Chicago did much to prepare for him two weeks ago, and both CHI and ARI offer average to below average pass defenses. I'll be much more impressed if he produces his next two games vs OAK and NYG.

As a point of reference, Steve Johnson who hasn't been mentioned in this thread, has 19/301/5 over his last four games. I also think both the Steeler WRs are being under rated here. Ward has 12/185/2 and Wallace has 5/143/2 in the two weeks since Big Ben has returned. Pretty confident in both being top 20 by seasons end.

 
Seems a lot of people are anointing SEA Mike Williams after these past two games. I'll grant you he's been very good. I can't image Chicago did much to prepare for him two weeks ago, and both CHI and ARI offer average to below average pass defenses. I'll be much more impressed if he produces his next two games vs OAK and NYG.

As a point of reference, Steve Johnson who hasn't been mentioned in this thread, has 19/301/5 over his last four games. I also think both the Steeler WRs are being under rated here. Ward has 12/185/2 and Wallace has 5/143/2 in the two weeks since Big Ben has returned. Pretty confident in both being top 20 by seasons end.
I have a hard time ranking a guy that makes 2 or 3 catches every week that high.He may finish the season top 20 based on the stats he's compiled already this year, but unless his targets change significantly I doubt he'll be top 20 from today forward.

 
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Seems a lot of people are anointing SEA Mike Williams after these past two games. I'll grant you he's been very good. I can't image Chicago did much to prepare for him two weeks ago, and both CHI and ARI offer average to below average pass defenses. I'll be much more impressed if he produces his next two games vs OAK and NYG.

As a point of reference, Steve Johnson who hasn't been mentioned in this thread, has 19/301/5 over his last four games. I also think both the Steeler WRs are being under rated here. Ward has 12/185/2 and Wallace has 5/143/2 in the two weeks since Big Ben has returned. Pretty confident in both being top 20 by seasons end.
I have a hard time ranking a guy that makes 2 or 3 catches every week that high.
Why? In PPR, of course he wouldn't be as high. In non-ppr, doesn't matter. The majority of his targets are deep. Ben is an excellent down-field passer. Figure Wallace for about a shot per quarter at least, and he's going to hit one most games. Some games he'll hit a couple.
 
Seems a lot of people are anointing SEA Mike Williams after these past two games. I'll grant you he's been very good. I can't image Chicago did much to prepare for him two weeks ago, and both CHI and ARI offer average to below average pass defenses. I'll be much more impressed if he produces his next two games vs OAK and NYG.

As a point of reference, Steve Johnson who hasn't been mentioned in this thread, has 19/301/5 over his last four games. I also think both the Steeler WRs are being under rated here. Ward has 12/185/2 and Wallace has 5/143/2 in the two weeks since Big Ben has returned. Pretty confident in both being top 20 by seasons end.
I have a hard time ranking a guy that makes 2 or 3 catches every week that high.
Why? In PPR, of course he wouldn't be as high. In non-ppr, doesn't matter. The majority of his targets are deep. Ben is an excellent down-field passer. Figure Wallace for about a shot per quarter at least, and he's going to hit one most games. Some games he'll hit a couple.
I've owned Lee Evans before, that's why.
 
Nice list by the OP. Kind of a preview of what we might expect to compare and contrast to Dodd's 250 going forward.First glance, I think I agree with others that Welker is way too high. The passing personality of the Patriots is different now that they don't have Moss as a deep threat. I also don't think that Britt has the stability at QB or the work ethic to carry his success forward.My list looks like this:1. Andre Johnson2. Roddy White3. Calvin Johnson4. Reggie Wayne5. Miles Austin6. Brandon Marshall7. Hakeem Nicks8. Anquan Boldin9. Randy Moss10 Mike Williams (SEA)11 Larry Fitzgerald12 Greg Jennings13 DeSean Jackson14 Hines Ward15 Terrell Owens16 Marques Colston17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Mike Wallace20 Jeremy Maclin
seems like we are in consensus with top 8 players. There clearly is a huge dropoff after the top 8
 
Nice list by the OP. Kind of a preview of what we might expect to compare and contrast to Dodd's 250 going forward.First glance, I think I agree with others that Welker is way too high. The passing personality of the Patriots is different now that they don't have Moss as a deep threat. I also don't think that Britt has the stability at QB or the work ethic to carry his success forward.My list looks like this:1. Andre Johnson2. Roddy White3. Calvin Johnson4. Reggie Wayne5. Miles Austin6. Brandon Marshall7. Hakeem Nicks8. Anquan Boldin9. Randy Moss10 Mike Williams (SEA)11 Larry Fitzgerald12 Greg Jennings13 DeSean Jackson14 Hines Ward15 Terrell Owens16 Marques Colston17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Mike Wallace20 Jeremy Maclin
Pretty solid, things that jump out obviously BMW top 10 I say no way, I would rather have every other guy on that list than him. Also Fitz can't be considered a top 15 guy with that situation. B-Marshall like I said before gets overrated because of how fun he is to watch, but the guy just doesn't score. And Miami's schedule is brutal until the fantasy playoffs.
 
Needs TB Williams top 18. I'd say drop Welker and Maclin. And Wallace has a shot. Also, Fitz should go in there between 15 and 20 IMO.
I totally see reasons for wallace to be top 20, but explain to me why Fitz would go over Welker or Maclin? Welker has looked bad so far and is till looking much better then Fitz. Brady will still get Welker involved in passing game, who exactly will be throwing to Fitz?
I missed that you were talking PPR. In non-PPR, the 20th WR had 1060 yards and 6 TDs. Fitz is 700 and 4 away from that with 10 (9 that matter) games remaining. I think he is a good bet to get that no matter who his QB is. I could be wrong, but if someone offered me Fitz for Maclin straight up I think I would take it.
 
Any list that doesn't include Brandon Lloyd is ridiculous. The guy is the #2 WR half-way through the season and he's on an offense that is going to have to pass all day to try to stay in ball games.

 
Any list that doesn't have Reggie Wayne in the top 5 has something not accurate IMO. No way he should be behind guys like Miles Austin and Brandon Marhsall. No way.

Not saying those guys suck, but they aren't Reggie Wayne either.

 
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Kitrick Taylor said:
Seems a lot of people are anointing SEA Mike Williams after these past two games. I'll grant you he's been very good. I can't image Chicago did much to prepare for him two weeks ago, and both CHI and ARI offer average to below average pass defenses. I'll be much more impressed if he produces his next two games vs OAK and NYG.

As a point of reference, Steve Johnson who hasn't been mentioned in this thread, has 19/301/5 over his last four games. I also think both the Steeler WRs are being under rated here. Ward has 12/185/2 and Wallace has 5/143/2 in the two weeks since Big Ben has returned. Pretty confident in both being top 20 by seasons end.
You could be on this list given the number of targets BMW is getting.I agree with your take on Steve Johnson. Unless Fitz gets hurt, I don't see his numbers changing that much.

Garcon was mentioned earlier and I agree he will be top 10-15 assuming his thumb isn't an issue coming out of the bye week. Manning is on a mind boggling pace.

 
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I also like Garcon going forward as a top 20 and possibly top 10. With Collie and Clark injured, he's the # 2 man on a team that loves to pass and has the best qb in football.
i have garcon as a top 10-15 as well. m wallace looks like a 2-3 catch per game guy. he could put up 6 more td's but thats too unpredictable for my playoff teamjust gave m wallace for garcon this week, actually
 
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After last night's game I would move Nicks into top 5 and move Austin into the 10-15 category. I also like BLoyd. Here's my crack at the top 20 going forward in non-ppr. Also Fitz doesn't make my top 20.

1. Roddy White

2. Andre Johnson

3. Reggie Wayne

4. Hakeem Nicks

5. Calvin Johnson

6. Greg Jennings

7. Brandon Loyd

8. Anquan Boldin

9. DeSean Jackson

10 Hines Ward

11 Brandon Marshall

12 Percy Harvin

13 Randy Moss

14 Mike Williams (SEA)

15 Terrell Owens

16 Mike Wallace

17 Santana Moss

18 Pierre Garcon

19 Jeremy Maclin

20 Steve Smith (NYG)

 
After last night's game I would move Nicks into top 5 and move Austin into the 10-15 category. I also like BLoyd. Here's my crack at the top 20 going forward in non-ppr. Also Fitz doesn't make my top 20.1. Roddy White2. Andre Johnson3. Reggie Wayne4. Hakeem Nicks5. Calvin Johnson6. Greg Jennings7. Brandon Loyd8. Anquan Boldin9. DeSean Jackson10 Hines Ward11 Brandon Marshall12 Percy Harvin13 Randy Moss14 Mike Williams (SEA)15 Terrell Owens16 Mike Wallace17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Jeremy Maclin20 Steve Smith (NYG)
If Denver keeps losing I think McDaniel may pull Orton at some point for Tebow. I think that would be a disaster for Lloyd.
 
The actual draft means nothing now, this is my rankings from today on, some studs from seasons past are barely even top 40 now. I ranked the top 20 IMO and put the tiers where i see them1 Roddy White 2 Andre Johnson3 Miles Austin4 Calvin Johnson5 Brandon Marshall6 Reggie Wayne7 Hakeem Nicks8 Boldin9 Colston10 Welker11 Jeremy Maclin12 Percy Harvin13 Santana Moss14 Terrell Owens15 Randy Moss16 Desean Jackson17 Kenny Britt18 Mike Williams Seahawks19 Greg Jennings20 Hines WardThis is my list, guys like Lloyd, Floyd, Bowe, Ocho were outside my top 20 because going forward i dont see them ahead of any of the names i have on this list.
Subtract Welker and add Moss.
 
IMO, Braylon Edwards is being severely underrated. After the week 1 debacle, his game stats look like this:

Week2: 5 for 45, TD

Week3: 2 for 87, TD

Week4: 4 for 86, TD

Week5: 5 for 70

Week6: 4 for 46, TD

Looks like a top 20 WR to me. Still just 27, Sanchez is improvinf, and Braylon only a few seasons removed from a 1300yd 16TD season.

:blackdot:

 
Nice list by the OP. Kind of a preview of what we might expect to compare and contrast to Dodd's 250 going forward.First glance, I think I agree with others that Welker is way too high. The passing personality of the Patriots is different now that they don't have Moss as a deep threat. I also don't think that Britt has the stability at QB or the work ethic to carry his success forward.My list looks like this:1. Andre Johnson2. Roddy White3. Calvin Johnson4. Reggie Wayne5. Miles Austin6. Brandon Marshall7. Hakeem Nicks8. Anquan Boldin9. Randy Moss10 Mike Williams (SEA)11 Larry Fitzgerald12 Greg Jennings13 DeSean Jackson14 Hines Ward15 Terrell Owens16 Marques Colston17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Mike Wallace20 Jeremy Maclin
No Harvin or Rice with any of you guys?
 
IMO, Braylon Edwards is being severely underrated. After the week 1 debacle, his game stats look like this:Week2: 5 for 45, TDWeek3: 2 for 87, TDWeek4: 4 for 86, TDWeek5: 5 for 70Week6: 4 for 46, TDLooks like a top 20 WR to me. Still just 27, Sanchez is improvinf, and Braylon only a few seasons removed from a 1300yd 16TD season. :unsure:
He is a nice surprise this year and seems to have a good rapport with Sanchez. He hasn't been dropping passes as frequently, but with Holmes coming back his role may be diminished a little, though he doesn't need a lot of catches to succeed. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the 15-20 range.
 
Nice list by the OP. Kind of a preview of what we might expect to compare and contrast to Dodd's 250 going forward.First glance, I think I agree with others that Welker is way too high. The passing personality of the Patriots is different now that they don't have Moss as a deep threat. I also don't think that Britt has the stability at QB or the work ethic to carry his success forward.My list looks like this:1. Andre Johnson2. Roddy White3. Calvin Johnson4. Reggie Wayne5. Miles Austin6. Brandon Marshall7. Hakeem Nicks8. Anquan Boldin9. Randy Moss10 Mike Williams (SEA)11 Larry Fitzgerald12 Greg Jennings13 DeSean Jackson14 Hines Ward15 Terrell Owens16 Marques Colston17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Mike Wallace20 Jeremy Maclin
No Harvin or Rice with any of you guys?
Harvin, maybe squeaking in in the last 4-5 slots somewhere. Rice, no way. 3 concerns with Rice (1 of which also causes Harvin to be ranked lower):1) Favre's health may greatly modify his numbers2) Rice is not gauranteed to come back anytime soo..and if he does how healthy/effective?3) With Moss now in the fold, how often will Rice see the ball? (I think Harvin benefits more than Rice would, for Harvin think of Burleson the season he played with Moss).A case can be made for Harvin, especially as the Vikings go to great lengths to get the ball in has hands in different ways. Rice not so much.
 
After last night's game I would move Nicks into top 5 and move Austin into the 10-15 category. I also like BLoyd. Here's my crack at the top 20 going forward in non-ppr. Also Fitz doesn't make my top 20.1. Roddy White2. Andre Johnson3. Reggie Wayne4. Hakeem Nicks5. Calvin Johnson6. Greg Jennings7. Brandon Loyd8. Anquan Boldin9. DeSean Jackson10 Hines Ward11 Brandon Marshall12 Percy Harvin13 Randy Moss14 Mike Williams (SEA)15 Terrell Owens16 Mike Wallace17 Santana Moss18 Pierre Garcon19 Jeremy Maclin20 Steve Smith (NYG)
If Denver keeps losing I think McDaniel may pull Orton at some point for Tebow. I think that would be a disaster for Lloyd.
Why would he do that?
 
IMO, Braylon Edwards is being severely underrated. After the week 1 debacle, his game stats look like this:Week2: 5 for 45, TDWeek3: 2 for 87, TDWeek4: 4 for 86, TDWeek5: 5 for 70Week6: 4 for 46, TDLooks like a top 20 WR to me. Still just 27, Sanchez is improvinf, and Braylon only a few seasons removed from a 1300yd 16TD season. :shrug:
Santonio Holmes is back - Cotchery, Holmes, and Braylon , and Keller in the mix...I have him around WR 30ish
 
Calvin Johnson is only WR10 in PPG in PPR leagues. Not sure why I would put him higher than 7th right now.
Calvin's WR11 in my PPR right now, but 7 guys ahead of him have yet to have their bye week yet.
 
kingmalaki said:
Wow, no love for TB Mike Williams? I would rather have him than the Sea one that's getting all the love in this thread.
Me, too, but his performance thus far puts him around WR35+
 

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