albert hammond jr.
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Top 5 corners in the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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Champmathissheppardharrisa. rolle
albert hammond jr.
Footballguy
I don't know that you can include Harris in there without having Terrance Newman on the list
albert hammond jr.
Footballguy
To be perfectly honest I think D Hall is terribly over-hyped.
fatboyj711
Footballguy
agreed, but where's mcallister and clements?
azgroover
Footballguy
Please tell me this was a typo or you suddenly shifted into "Worst Corners in the NFL" frame of thought.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Asante Samuel's agent is reading this thread and is not getting all warm and fuzzy.
albert hammond jr.
Footballguy
I think Samuel is a top 5.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Yeah, probably should have had him in the top 5 instead of mathis...I think there's a dropoff after six.I agree with others that Hall is overrated.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I'll go with my 5 in a ranking that I don't want my wr to go aginst.
1) Champ
2) McCallister
3) Clements
4) D. Hall
5) D. Robinson
(edit: Pac Man would have been #5 if he was playing)
1) Champ
2) McCallister
3) Clements
4) D. Hall
5) D. Robinson
(edit: Pac Man would have been #5 if he was playing)
ChampBailey24
Footballguy
1.Champ
2. McAllister
3. Mathis
4. Newman
5. Asomugha
6. Sheppard
7. Clements
I think there's a drop-off after these.
2. McAllister
3. Mathis
4. Newman
5. Asomugha
6. Sheppard
7. Clements
I think there's a drop-off after these.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
My top five (today 
:
Champ Bailey
Leigh Bodden
Nmandi Asomugha
Rashean Mathis
Nate Clements
Pacman Jones would bump Clements if he was eligible to play.
Lito Sheppard, DeAngelo Hall, Antrel Rolle, Anthony Henry aren't top ten. Asante Samuel, Terence Newman and maybe Chris McAllister or Dunta Robinson have top ten arguments.
Also, there was an extended discussion about the best corners in January as well that's worth reading.
:Champ Bailey
Leigh Bodden
Nmandi Asomugha
Rashean Mathis
Nate Clements
Pacman Jones would bump Clements if he was eligible to play.
Lito Sheppard, DeAngelo Hall, Antrel Rolle, Anthony Henry aren't top ten. Asante Samuel, Terence Newman and maybe Chris McAllister or Dunta Robinson have top ten arguments.
Also, there was an extended discussion about the best corners in January as well that's worth reading.
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I'm glad to see some of the hype on Samuel has died down. Around the end of the season, everyone was saying top 3-5.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Last I heard, Asante was asking for $10M a year and the Pats were offering $6M. He apparently still thinks he's worth a lot more than the $7.8M franchise tender . . .
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Certainly, but I doubt that Asante is being very objective.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
He probably thinks he's worthy of a contract in the ballpark of Clements.
TecmoBeast
Footballguy
why no love for Ronde Barber?... maybe not the coverage technician, but tackling is superb and makes tons of plays like forced fumbles n such.
Nnamdi Asomugha is the next up-n-comer and deserves top-5 imo. He doesn't get too much publicity, but that will change.
Marcus Trufant is will considered top-5 in the next few years.
Nnamdi Asomugha is the next up-n-comer and deserves top-5 imo. He doesn't get too much publicity, but that will change.
Marcus Trufant is will considered top-5 in the next few years.
SSOG
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Mostly by D. Hall himself.Seriously, I don't get the deal with Hall and the media. It's like they automatically take everything he says at face value without applying any rational thought to the matter.albert hammond jr. said:
Asanta Samuel had a great year last year, but what makes it so hard to rank corners is that, outside of maybe 3 guys, how many are great EVERY year? I mean, lots of corners have an awesome season here or there, but there are maybe 3 CBs in the entire NFL who are consistantly great season after season (Bailey, McAllister, Barber, imo).Whenever I'm ranking CBs, in my mind there's a top three- Bailey, Barber, McAllister, in that order- and then after that there's a handful of guys who have had a great year or two and who could potentially one day be on that list of consistant performers- guys like Terrance Newman, Rashean Mathis, Asante Samuel, Nnamdi Asomugha, Lito Sheppard (he'd be on the other list if he hadn't gotten hurt in 2005 and/or if he'd been a bit more consistant last year, because he was great in 2004), Pacman (probably the second best CB in the league last year, after Champ), etc.David Yudkin said:
Man, before I read this post, I was about to go off on the fact that nobody had named Barber yet. Sure, he doesn't have the flashy man-coverage skills, but he's the prototypical Cover2 CB, and with the Cover2 all the rage recently, that's a very valuable commodity. If my team was running a cover2, and I had my choice of any CB other than Champ, I'd take Barber. He's one of those guys that is a joy to watch making an open-field stop, and his skill as a passrusher gives his coordinator unheard of flexibility. I think he might only have one or two elite years left in him before he starts the slide (I think he'll be one of the top5 safeties in the league a couple of years from now, if he makes the move), but if we're just talking about picking a guy for one game, Barber's gotta be up there. If there's ever a Bucs game on, I'll watch it (not when they have the ball, though) just for Barber and Brooks.Also, Nnamdi Asomugha is another name that hasn't been getting enough love. With Pacman so obviously self-destructive and such a huge risk, I'd call Asomugha the best young CB in the league.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
DeAngelo Hall?He couldn't cover you in a phonebooth
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
1. Champ Bailey
2. Nnamdi Asomugha
3. Chris McAlister
4. Charles Woodson
5. Nate Clements
2. Nnamdi Asomugha
3. Chris McAlister
4. Charles Woodson
5. Nate Clements
Jedimaster21
Footballguy
1. Champ
2. Clements
3. Mathis
4. Asomugha
5. Pac Man
2. Clements
3. Mathis
4. Asomugha
5. Pac Man
Tubalcane
Footballguy
1.Champ
2.Champ
3.Champ
4.Champ
5.Champ
Really nobody is even close to Champs level right now. He is in a class all by himself.
Seriously though
1.Champ
2.Chris McAlister
3.Rashean Mathis
4.Asante Samuel
5.Nate Clements
6.Dre Bly
For the guy who asked about Bly, I’d put Bly at 6-8 realm. He’s got real sticky hands, the only problem is he has been on a varsity team …oh…pardon me… I mean Detroit, for the last few years.
2.Champ
3.Champ
4.Champ
5.Champ
Really nobody is even close to Champs level right now. He is in a class all by himself.
Seriously though
1.Champ
2.Chris McAlister
3.Rashean Mathis
4.Asante Samuel
5.Nate Clements
6.Dre Bly
For the guy who asked about Bly, I’d put Bly at 6-8 realm. He’s got real sticky hands, the only problem is he has been on a varsity team …oh…pardon me… I mean Detroit, for the last few years.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
This is a good point. I didn't include in him my top five because most would argue that the "best" corners excel in man coverage, which is Barber's only weakness. Given that Barber is one of the best playmaking zone corners in the league and is likely the best run supporting corner in the league, he definitely deserves mention.Although he's been inconsistent and vilified by some homers (a little unfairly IMO), Charles Tillman isn't far behind Ronde Barber in the best zone corner/run supporter discussion.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
About three years past his prime. He's not likely to start ahead of Mike McKenzie or Jason David this season.
