Really hope Engram lands there. Almost a best-case scenario for him.
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Not a huge fan of the Hufanga or especially Jones deals, but Greenlaw could be a huge get if he's healthy. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up being the best defensive player that switched teams this entire offseason.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That whistling sound we hear is Rico Dawdle’s dynasty value falling like a stone. He’s a UDFA IIRC?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Undoubtedly, but as we all know, Achilles is tricky to come back from, especially for positions that rely on burst.
ETA: that said, as a character guy it’s hard to do better, and if he is healthy Denver’s defense is going to be terrifying.
Hufunga has trouble staying on the field but he’s a legit playmaker. Niners will miss both of them.
Wingnut
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He looked awesome and was the best player on the field vs the Rams before knee soreness forced him out of the game. It looked like he had zero after effects of the Achilles tear.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Did the Vikings finally address their Achilles heel?
sports.yahoo.com
Colts center Ryan Kelly reportedly signing with Minnesota Vikings
The Colts will have a new starting center for the first time in a decade next season.
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Not sure Dowdle was going to make it to week 1 as the starter anyway, but 1 year/$3 MM is not starter money.
crushedspirit
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1 year deal for Najee to Chargers for about 9.25 mil
Stoneworker
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Last year was moneyball for the Broncos. This year is about filling a handful of holes to get to the next level and I don't mind a little overpaying one bit to fill those holes.
Hufanga's contract is below Moehring and on par with Bynum, neither of which have been All-Pro
joey
Footballguy
To dig deeper with a known Broncos’ fan….
it’s not like another regime drafted Estime. Is he not in the conversation at all?
The Safety market has been really weird to me. Especially with the 2 best guys still available. The Moehrig deal might be one of the worst so far. I'd argue the Raiders got a better value at Safety for half the price in Chinn. Carolina did terrible today in my opinion.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Bummer, was hoping he would escape..
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed - I’m surprised they put that level of designation on him with Guerrendo in the fold and the big rookie crop.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
The year a player returns from their achilles tear they aren't at 100%. They usually get there the second year. Greenlaw could be the best signing of the FA period.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Baltimore lost 5 UFAs yesterday: OL Josh Jones to Seattle, LB Chris Board to NYG, LB Malik Harrison to the Steelers, DB Brandon Stephens to NYJ, and OL Patrick Mekari to the Jags. They did re-sign Ronnie Stanley (who I thought was gone for sure).
Jones was a rotational guy (I don't think he ever started for the Ravens). He won't be hard to replace.
Board is one of those lifers that every team needs. Good, not great, defensive player and a huge presence on STs. That one stings, but the Giants offered too much money.
Harrison never quite got to where I thought he would (he was a beast at OSU). He's more of a thumper than a speed LB like Queen. He got moved around a lot by the Ravens and was a valuable ST player.
I wrote about Stephens in the NYJ team thread. He was fantastic in 2023 and looked lost last season. The Ravens had a ton of coaching turnover on defense after 2023 and maybe that played into his awful 2024. Or maybe he had something else going on (it wasn't injury).
Losing Mekari hurts the worst. He could play all 5 OL positions and play them well. Baltimore couldn't match $13 million a year.
As in most years, the Ravens stayed quiet during the initial gold rush (seems like most of the successful franchises do). They'll go bargain shopping in a bit and continue to do so through the next 6 months.
Jones was a rotational guy (I don't think he ever started for the Ravens). He won't be hard to replace.
Board is one of those lifers that every team needs. Good, not great, defensive player and a huge presence on STs. That one stings, but the Giants offered too much money.
Harrison never quite got to where I thought he would (he was a beast at OSU). He's more of a thumper than a speed LB like Queen. He got moved around a lot by the Ravens and was a valuable ST player.
I wrote about Stephens in the NYJ team thread. He was fantastic in 2023 and looked lost last season. The Ravens had a ton of coaching turnover on defense after 2023 and maybe that played into his awful 2024. Or maybe he had something else going on (it wasn't injury).
Losing Mekari hurts the worst. He could play all 5 OL positions and play them well. Baltimore couldn't match $13 million a year.
As in most years, the Ravens stayed quiet during the initial gold rush (seems like most of the successful franchises do). They'll go bargain shopping in a bit and continue to do so through the next 6 months.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'm happy for Allen getting one more nice contract. That guy went through some horrible times in D.C. and was always a stand-up guy. It's a shame his career is winding down just as Washington's fortunes appear to be rising, but they saved $17 million in cap space by releasing him.
That's probably an overpay by the Vikings in AAV, but I'm sure Flores will figure out how to best use him.
CB D.J. Reed Signs with the Detroit Lions
Contract:
Reed entered free agency as PFF’s top available cornerback after ranking in the top 10 in PFF’s advanced coverage grade and posting a 51.28% lockdown rate.With Carlton Davis III heading to New England on a significant deal, the Lions managed to upgrade at cornerback while lowering their overall contract costs. Reed’s three-year, $48 million deal—while lucrative—comes in well below Davis’ $60 million contract over the same span.
Last season under Aaron Glenn, Detroit deployed Cover 1 at the highest rate in the NFL (34%). While Glenn has since taken over as the Jets’ head coach, the expectation is that new defensive coordinator Kelvin Sheppard will maintain a similar philosophy.
Reed excelled in Cover 1 early last season with the Jets — before Robert Saleh’s firing — earning an 84.5 PFF coverage grade through Week 5 as New York leaned more heavily on the scheme.
The Vikings also signed guard Will Fries from the Colts for 5 years, $88 million, and are nearing a deal with defensive tackle Javon Hargrave.
1/14 for Jones
Honestly, I'd be surprised if he didn't start more games than Richardson. Jones is getting a much better supporting cast than he ever had in NY.
zamboni
Footballguy
If I were Richardson, I would be very concerned. Jones may have faltered with the Giants but he had his moments, and as you said, didn't exactly have the best ecosystem around him.
-OZ-
Footballguy
As a titans fan I want to laugh but really you’re right. Jones could be competent.
Now watch the colts win the division - which really isn’t a stretch of imagination.
Boston
Footballguy
Smart move for the Colts...they now have two shots at solving their QB position...I thought Jones may end up back with the Vikings to get one more year under O'Connell...Steichen is an offensive guy so if he wants to remain the Colts HC the best way to do it is to come out of this year with a legit starting QB whether it's Richardson or Jones...if not his job and the Colt's future will not be in a good spot.
Colts have been 8-7 with Richardson the last 2 years
Colts have been 9-10 with Minshew/Flacco
I think Jones is better than any of those guys.
ETA: 1/14 is a little interesting. Between that and Fields getting 20 per year, I'm very curious where Russ/Rodgers fall.
I would not be if I was AR. I mean that in the sense it's not a 50/50 competition. Remember last year when Steelers signed Russ and Fields and Tomlin said Russ was in the pole position? What he was really saying is the same situation that AR is in right now. It's his job. They'll want Jones to push him, mentor him and if AR falls flat, does not put in the work or gets hurt they got a pivot.
In short AR's comp is not Daniel Jones, it's him. He just needs to worry about himself. It's his job to lose.
I think it's a really good signing for the Colts. Jones is super professional and I think much more willing to mentor AR then Flacco or Minshew and he really needs that. Plus of course giving them a solid pivot if AR falters.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Neither of them should be worried about the other in my opinion. Based on their respective careers so far if they think they'll be unable to beat out one another then they aren't up to it and the Colts can move on. The problem they likely end up with is that neither is up to it but at least one of them can get a confidence boost by 'beating' the other one to the starting job.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I like a lot of these.
I think Josh Palmer to the Bills is sneaky good.
I think Fields to NYJ works since that's what he had in Pitt, a run first team.
Kirk to Texas is good.
Harris to the Chargers will probably work out. Pitt is right that Warren is the better back but Harris is a workhorse so I think he';; work in LAC.
I'm a Williams truther but the breakout hasn't come and it might not but I do think its a good signing.
In the Titians thread, before travdog suggested that they might sign Rodgers, I thought we should go get Darnold. Even though I was worried that he stunk it up in his last 2 games the 16 games before that were great. I worry that he may struggle in SEA since they don't have the weapons that Minn does.
I think Josh Palmer to the Bills is sneaky good.
I think Fields to NYJ works since that's what he had in Pitt, a run first team.
Kirk to Texas is good.
Harris to the Chargers will probably work out. Pitt is right that Warren is the better back but Harris is a workhorse so I think he';; work in LAC.
I'm a Williams truther but the breakout hasn't come and it might not but I do think its a good signing.
In the Titians thread, before travdog suggested that they might sign Rodgers, I thought we should go get Darnold. Even though I was worried that he stunk it up in his last 2 games the 16 games before that were great. I worry that he may struggle in SEA since they don't have the weapons that Minn does.
-OZ-
Footballguy
He’s got that
in him
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I don't think it's like that at all. The staff in Indy isn't anywhere near as secure as Pittsburgh. They need someone to win them some games and Jones can do that better than ARich.
Its like that
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Okay
Football Jones
Footballguy
Bears and Vikings with some great moves. Minnesota loading up their front 7 to stop Detroit. I can see both Chicago and Minnesota passing the Lions within a couple years. QBs on rookie deals are a huge advantage.
Look out if Caleb and J.J. are the real deal. Athletic QBs are where it’s at in the NFL. The Pack looking really good, too. NFC Central will likely be the toughest division in the league next year.
Look out if Caleb and J.J. are the real deal. Athletic QBs are where it’s at in the NFL. The Pack looking really good, too. NFC Central will likely be the toughest division in the league next year.
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I had to give a quick reply earlier.
So just wanted to circle back to say I agree that jobs are on the line in Indy but that's the pivot part I mentioned. I feel strongly, in part based on reporting from Colts beat writers, it's not a real competition in the sense AR has to beat him out in camp. Jobs may be on the line in Indy but the state of the franchise should always be priority #1(I actually trust Ballard is looking out for the franschise more then his job, not as sure on Stiechen) and trying to make AR work as their QB of the future instead of Daniel Jones on a one year deal is the best thing for this franchise. They'll give him every opportunity to do that before pulling the plug. Jones puts him on short leash, gives them that pivot that if they don't think AR has improved they got another option. I'd guess you agree on most of that, just probably view it was more of a legit 50/50 type of competition than I would. This is not at all to say AR can't be benched, even before week 1, my overaching point is he's in the drivers seat and should not really worry about Jones so much as he should worry about showing the Colts he is taking tangible growth forward.
zamboni
Footballguy
I would tend to agree here. While I don't think it's a competition and they're giving AR a chance to right himself, team brass already had no problems benching AR last year when the things were heading south. And if AR struggles again, this time the benching may be for good.
ETA: I guess I should have clarified that I think AR should be concerned that they have a credible backup waiting in the wings to assume the job for good if he struggles, as opposed to a stopgap old guy in Flacco.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
He’s got that
What, like chasing his tail dog?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Guy must double as stadium maintenance as well.
was there even a rumor that Denver talked with him? I thought Sean Payton was interested?
Some people had him pegged as the top FA TE available.
Don't know if they talked to him but seems like everyone had him pegged to Denver. Made sense since he's super fond of Payton and they have a need. They seem preoccoupied with wooing Engram. I actually thought heading into FA that Juwan would get the best deal, be curious if Engram beats it in first few years of the deal.
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
No kidding. Agent of the year
joey
Footballguy
This single post sent me down a 5 minute rabbit hole looking up stats and availability in my dynasty leagues, etc.
for 500 yards a year and a handful of TDs? Sheesh
Grahamburn
Footballguy
They basically have to extend these guys they don't even want to new deals because they can't afford the dead cap hits on all the void years.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Yikes if they signed Juwan to this deal due to the cap hell they've been operating in.
