Top 5 QBs the rest of the way? (1 Viewer)

[bocksheesh]

Right now, it's a bit of a mixed bag in terms of the Top QBs.

You have the usual suspects like Manning, McNabb, and Holt. And then you have unexpected QBs like Brees, Kitna, and Grossman.

Naturally, there will be some movement here as some of these guys fade while others (Carson Palmer? Tom Brady?) emerge over the 2nd half of the season.

So the question is: who do people see as the Top 5 QBs over the 2nd half of the season?

 

[One]

Right now, it's a bit of a mixed bag in terms of the Top QBs.

You have the usual suspects like Manning, McNabb, and Holt.

you mean Bulger.

 

[CA_7]

Right now, it's a bit of a mixed bag in terms of the Top QBs.

You have the usual suspects like Manning, McNabb, and Holt.

Holt's taking over as STL's QB?

He's that good!!!If I drafted today I would go:

1. Peyton

2. McNabb

3. Bulger

4. Palmer

5. Eli

6. Vick

 

[dgreen]

You have the usual suspects like Manning, McNabb, and [sHolt Bulger.

I agree those three are most likely to be top 5. So, we're really only looking at two spots. I'd think it will be two of Eli, Brady, Vick, and Palmer. I'll go with Vick and Palmer.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

1a. McNabb

1b. PManning

2. Palmer

3. EManning

4. Bulger (only below Eli because he's not the most durable)

5. Kitna (with the caveat that he could get pulled due to no fault of his own)

 

[Godsbrother]

In the past 2 weeks Ben Roethlisberger was looking like he was coming back to form (5 TDs, 0 Ints) before getting knocked out of the Atlanta game. It remains to be seen if he'll miss any time or suffer any ill affects because of the hit.

 

[gman8343]

Phillip Rivers could make a run at it.

 

[Hamstring]

What about Leinart? Everyone was punching their mom in the face to crown him last week.

 

[Superbowl Shuffle]

Phillip Rivers could make a run at it.

He's got the strong rushing attack to keep defenses honest and enough weapons to rack up points through the air.

 

[Jayrok]

Alex Smith has a decent schedule for weeks 14, 15 and 16. He's had good yards against decent defenses, just not a lot of TDs. He may surprise in FFB playoffs.

 

[sdsjr3]

Favre will put up comparable numbers to the top 10 guys. He'll just likely have more INTs. But For me, I sure am glad I had Hasselbeck backed up by him. Easy schedule and pass friendly offense. I can see him averaging about 17pts/week in standard performance scoring. Won't win you a title, but won't lose it for you either.

 

[Kiddnets]

Now that he has S Smith back - how about Jake Del?

I like Palmer but that schedule is brutal!!

 

[delusional]

1. Peyton

2. McNabb

3. Bulger

4. Eli

5. Carr

 

[bocksheesh]

Yeah, you have to like Palmer to get back there as well. Particularly with a few guys coming back from injury on the Offensive Line.

BUT, that schedule is not easy. Makes me nervous.

 

[davearm]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.

Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.

A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

 

[bocksheesh]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

Fair point.So who's in your Top 5 the rest of the way?

 

[packersfan]

Phillip Rivers could make a run at it.

He's got the strong rushing attack to keep defenses honest and enough weapons to rack up points through the air.

I was very impressed with Rivers against the Chiefs. On the road in a tough place to play and in a game where he was down big early and the Chiefs knew he had to throw a lot he still put up very good numbers. I'm liking him quite a bit the rest of the way. I don't know if he'll be Top 5, but Top 10 is looking very possible.

 

[davearm]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

Fair point.So who's in your Top 5 the rest of the way?

Peyton, McNabb, Bulger, Eli, Vick.I'd have no problem putting Kitna in there. League leader in attempts.Next 5 Delhomme, Favre, Palmer, Brees, Rivers, in some order.So I guess I see Palmer as a low-end starter, rather than a high-end backup in a 12-teamer.

 

[bocksheesh]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

Fair point.So who's in your Top 5 the rest of the way?

Peyton, McNabb, Bulger, Eli, Vick.I'd have no problem putting Kitna in there. League leader in attempts.Next 5 Delhomme, Favre, Palmer, Brees, Rivers, in some order.So I guess I see Palmer as a low-end starter, rather than a high-end backup in a 12-teamer.

That all sounds about right.See, my problem (in a way) is that I have Jon Kitna, I'm loving his unexpected production, but I just don't trust him (or his situation) over the long term this season. Too many injuries on the OLine, too much bad history in Detroit, too much of everything.But the other problem, then, is that I'm not necessarily sold on Eli or Vick being surefire Top 5 QBs the rest of the way either.So, I'm in a dilema as to whether I should just ride Kitna or try to trade for a better QB. But if so, and knowing that the guys with Manning and McNabb won't trade them, who is worth targetting?

 

[Keg]

1a. McNabb1b. PManning2. Palmer3. EManning4. Bulger (only below Eli because he's not the most durable)5. Kitna (with the caveat that he could get pulled due to no fault of his own)

i think saying bulger is not durable is a bit off...if anything the system martz had with the 10,000 step drops and such made him very vunerable...linehans system is a big plus for bulger in that he will have far less of those types of snaps and in turn he should take much less hits and in turn be more durable because of it

 

[fornov]

What about Leinart? Everyone was punching their mom in the face to crown him last week.

Matt Leinart is who we THOUGHT he was!If you want to crown him...

oh never mind.

 

[fornov]

OK, serious reply.

1. P. Manning

2. McNabb

3. Palmer

4. Brady

5. Bulger

6. Vick

7. Kitna

8. E. Manning

9. Brees

10. Pennington

Wildcard - Hasselbeck - I don't think his injury is going to be too serious for him. I do think he'll miss 3-4 games, but I think he'll come back nearly as good as new. And I like his playoff schedule. He's someone good to keep on your bench.

 

[Sea Bass]

Drew Brees down?

 

[bocksheesh]

OK, serious reply.1. P. Manning2. McNabb3. Palmer4. Brady5. Bulger6. Vick7. Kitna8. E. Manning9. Brees10. PenningtonWildcard - Hasselbeck - I don't think his injury is going to be too serious for him. I do think he'll miss 3-4 games, but I think he'll come back nearly as good as new. And I like his playoff schedule. He's someone good to keep on your bench.

See I don't understand how Carson Palmer gets ranked #3 right now. What's that based on?Your Top 10 list looks like the preseason QB rankings. Not the in-season rankings.

 

[SproutDaddy]

It's funny to see so many jumping on the Vick bandwagon!!! So if he doesn't throw a td next week I guess you'll start bashing him again.

The one thing he has needed is an elite WR.

 

[bocksheesh]

It's funny to see so many jumping on the Vick bandwagon!!! So if he doesn't throw a td next week I guess you'll start bashing him again. The one thing he has needed is an elite WR.

Yeah, what Vick giveth, Vick taketh away.I have a hard time putting him in that Top 5. He's just too up and down.

 

[SproutDaddy]

It's funny to see so many jumping on the Vick bandwagon!!! So if he doesn't throw a td next week I guess you'll start bashing him again. The one thing he has needed is an elite WR.

Yeah, what Vick giveth, Vick taketh away.I have a hard time putting him in that Top 5. He's just too up and down.

To clarify I wasn't saying I thought he should be in the top 5 (but he is close). I am just seeing all this Vick love and know these same people showing him love will be the same ones bashing him next week if he doesn't repeat. By the way, I own him in 3 of my 4 leagues, 2 of which are dynasty.

 

[stevegamer]

I think Vick could be in the top 5 - I've owned him the last 2 yearsm, and loved his value this year.

His legs make up a ton of ground on the passing game FF points wise. If he can keep getting the ball to Crumpler int he end zone, he'll make it.

 

[davearm]

It's funny to see so many jumping on the Vick bandwagon!!! So if he doesn't throw a td next week I guess you'll start bashing him again. The one thing he has needed is an elite WR.

Yeah, what Vick giveth, Vick taketh away.I have a hard time putting him in that Top 5. He's just too up and down.

Vick isn't any more up and down than any other QB.In fact getting rushing yardage week in and week out goes a long way toward insulating him against the real crappy passing days that basically all QBs have on occasion.In my scoring system, Vick's lowest scoring week this year has been 11 points.Bulger has had 2 worse weeks than that.Kitna 1Favre 2Brees 2Rivers 2Palmer 2Delhomme 3.Peyton, McNabb, Eli all have not yet scored less than 11 in a week.Now before you say "small sample size", you'll find the same trend to hold in past years too.

 

[bocksheesh]

Who do people like more the rest of the way: Jon Kitna or Carson Palmer?

 

[Wingnut]

Who do people like more the rest of the way: Jon Kitna or Carson Palmer?

I give up. Who?

 

[dgreen]

Who do people like more the rest of the way: Jon Kitna or Carson Palmer?

I give up. Who?

 

[bocksheesh]

Who do people like more the rest of the way: Jon Kitna or Carson Palmer?

I give up. Who?

That's funny. No. Seriously. That's "funny".

 

[Wally Cleaver]

OK, serious reply.1. P. Manning2. McNabb3. Palmer4. Brady5. Bulger6. Vick7. Kitna8. E. Manning9. Brees10. PenningtonWildcard - Hasselbeck - I don't think his injury is going to be too serious for him. I do think he'll miss 3-4 games, but I think he'll come back nearly as good as new. And I like his playoff schedule. He's someone good to keep on your bench.

See I don't understand how Carson Palmer gets ranked #3 right now. What's that based on?Your Top 10 list looks like the preseason QB rankings. Not the in-season rankings.

The Bungals are beginning to get healthy and if you caught any of this week's games you can see it starting to come together... I wouldnt be surprised if this offense starts to resemble its former self very soon.

 

[laughinboy_2000]

Here's my 2 Cents:

1. McNabb (yes over Manning)

2. Peyton Manning

3. Mark Bulgar (dude has been in a zone so far this year)

4. Eli Manning (I personally am very suprised he has played this year against some tough D's)

5. Favre (Why Favre? Easy schedule,l no running game, and bad defense. It's Air Favre for his farewell tour folks)

5a. Palmer (hate, and I mean hate his schedule. Let's see if he can show us what he's made of)

 

[AnonymousBob]

We need more Vick love in here. He's top five at this point, why won't he continue?

 

[aldelgreco]

We need more Vick love in here. He's top five at this point, why won't he continue?

because the falcons always choke.

 

[AnonymousBob]

We need more Vick love in here. He's top five at this point, why won't he continue?

because the falcons always choke.

Does this mean Peyton is no longer top ten?

 

[Loan Sharks]

Romo to T.O.

Book it.

Bold

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

We need more Vick love in here. He's top five at this point, why won't he continue?

because the falcons always choke.

Does this mean Peyton is no longer top ten?

He waits until the playoffs, doesn't affect his fantasy standing.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Romo to T.O. Book it.Bold

Steve Smith puts up big numbers yet Delhomme isn't a stud fantasy qb.

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

Carson Palmer has a much better surrounding cast. With Henry back they now have 3 WR's that are starter quality while Detroit has Roy and that's about it. I just see Kitna as having done this thus far with some smoke and mirrors and a high number of attempts as opposed to stellar play. He's a great garbage time stat accumulater this year which makes him just slightly less reliable in my eyes. As the season rolls towards the end, teams are going to learn to blanket Roy and make the other jokers beat them while with Cinci, if their line gets healthy, there is no way anyone can target shutting down a particular WR. I just can't see Kitna as capable of maintaining his current pace. Think he'll fall to earth soon.

 

[jagbag]

Phillip Rivers could make a run at it.

This is my sleeper.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Manning brothers and McNabb..rest are a flip of the coin!

 

[davearm]

Surprised by all the Palmer love here.Between the Bengals' struggles on offense and the difficult schedule, he's looking like an upper-echelon backup QB right now.A team in my league has Palmer and Kitna. Lions' bye week notwithstanding, I can't see how you can play Palmer over Kitna these days.

Carson Palmer has a much better surrounding cast. With Henry back they now have 3 WR's that are starter quality while Detroit has Roy and that's about it. I just see Kitna as having done this thus far with some smoke and mirrors and a high number of attempts as opposed to stellar play. He's a great garbage time stat accumulater this year which makes him just slightly less reliable in my eyes. As the season rolls towards the end, teams are going to learn to blanket Roy and make the other jokers beat them while with Cinci, if their line gets healthy, there is no way anyone can target shutting down a particular WR. I just can't see Kitna as capable of maintaining his current pace. Think he'll fall to earth soon.

If you're big on the "surrounding cast" theory, then obviously you must think that McNabb is in for a serious downturn too. Those Philly WRs don't have anything on Roy and Furrey.

 

[brednbuddah]

1. McNabb

2. P.Manning

3. E.Manning

4. M.Bulger

5. M.Vick

6. T.Brady

7. J.Kitna

8. C.Palmer

9. P.Rivers

10. D.Carr

based on his last 3 games, Rivers is ramping up nicely and could make a run at the top 5. Also, why no mention of D.Carr anywhere? with the exception of wk6, he's been solid and all without any running game to speak of. If Lundy can provide some balance, why not top 5?

ETA: forgot Kitna at #7

 

[Sleeper 43]

What about Leinart? Everyone was punching their mom in the face to crown him last week.

I'm Guilty!I didnt get to catch the game but after Lienart played the way he did statistically against Oakland, people are scared whether Monday Night was a fluke now.1. McNabb ---- Westbrook/Stallworth/LJ Smith/R Brown2. P. Manning ---- Marvin/Wayne/Addai3. Eli Manning ---- Plaxico/Shockey/Tiki4. Bulger ---- Holt/Bruce/S-Jax5. Brees ---- Colston/Horn/BushI like the talented supporting casts they can throw to, after-all half of the yardage is run after the catch right?

 

[Wingnut]

1. McNabb2. P.Manning3. E.Manning4. M.Bulger 5. M.Vick6. T.Brady7. J.Kitna8. C.Palmer9. P.Rivers10. D.Carrbased on his last 3 games, Rivers is ramping up nicely and could make a run at the top 5. Also, why no mention of D.Carr anywhere? with the exception of wk6, he's been solid and all without any running game to speak of. If Lundy can provide some balance, why not top 5?ETA: forgot Kitna at #7

Id take that list going forward.(Brady owner)

 

[Brother Mouzone]

before the Monday night game everyone would have had Grossman on the list.

Now he's not on anyones!

no one thinks he can return to his pre arizona form?

 

[Flyin Pigs]

I think I pretty much agree with breadnbuddah's list...

1. McNabb (I think he'll slow slightly)

2. Peyton (think he'll close the gap w/ McNabb but won't catch up)

3. Bulger

4. Eli (Eli & Bulger are interchangeable in my mind)

5. Vick

6-10. crapshoot but I'd follow what breadnbuddah said without a second thought.

RE: Leinart, I think he'll be fine. I've heard a million different reasons why Oak's passing D is #1, but the bottom line is they are in fact #1 and Leinart had a tough time with them. 'Zona as a whole is gonna be too up-n-down and Leinart will be as well, so I don't think he's top-10 going forward, but he should be real close.