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Trading Future Draft Picks in a Redraft League (1 Viewer)

Is it legitimate to allow future draft pick trades in a redraft league?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • No

    Votes: 44 88.0%

  • Total voters
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Simple question. This has come up in one of my leagues. I have never seen this done or heard of any support for this in a redraft league. Obviously, this is a different issue from dynasty leagues. Curious for more opinions.

 
I'd say "No way", but obviously people can do whatever they want in their own leagues. Intuitively it doesn't make any sense though because one season of re-draft has nothing to do with the next.

 
Simply, No. This is as you said a redraft league. Trading future compensation is not allowed. What is the next step? Team A trades all their first half of the draft this year for Team B's second half of the draft and then they switch it next year so one of the two teams has a huge advantage over everyone else each year.

The simple solution is to say that by definition of redraft you can not trade future compensation.

 
Keeper redraft yes

regular redraft no.

if they insist on trading draft picks, i'd insist on keeping a player or two.

and make sure it include a rule that they have to pay next years fees if they trade picks

 
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No

Just doesn't work for straight redrafts. Just like drafting in the reverse order of standings for the year before is stupid in redrafts

 
We allow it in our local redraft. Only rule is you have to pay next year's entry fees up front if you're trading away picks. As long as you do that there is no issue whatsoever.

 
Simply, No. This is as you said a redraft league. Trading future compensation is not allowed. What is the next step? Team A trades all their first half of the draft this year for Team B's second half of the draft and then they switch it next year so one of the two teams has a huge advantage over everyone else each year.
:confused: That's collusion and would be disallowed in any format. There's no reason you can't trade future picks in redraft leagues, as long as you have some kind of measures in place to ensure an owner doesn't trade away future picks and then leaves the league. The simplest and most effective solution, imo, is to require next year's fees be paid ahead of time if you're trading away picks.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
Intuitively it doesn't make any sense though because one season of re-draft has nothing to do with the next.
I don't understand this. If anything this sounds more like an argument against basing next year's draft order on this year's standings, or something. But just because it's a redraft doesn't mean there's no continuity. My local redraft league has had the same owners for years, and trades frequently involve future picks. It's never been an issue.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
Intuitively it doesn't make any sense though because one season of re-draft has nothing to do with the next.
I don't understand this. If anything this sounds more like an argument against basing next year's draft order on this year's standings, or something. But just because it's a redraft doesn't mean there's no continuity. My local redraft league has had the same owners for years, and trades frequently involve future picks. It's never been an issue.
The only continuity is that the same people start fresh each year. By definition there is no continuity in a redraft. :no: In my main redraft league the litmus test is when a player makes a trade he has to be attempting to make his team better. In a dynasty league that trade can either be short term or long term better. In a redraft league there is no future... that is the definition of a redraft.

Put another way. Take the word collusion out of it. Assume you were allowed to trade away all your players for draft picks next year. You are, in effect, completely tanking one year to load up the 2nd year. Im pretty sure I would come out WAY ahead if allowed to do that in a redraft league.

Just say no. Not in a redraft league.

 
If 12 guys get together and all want a redraft league where they can trade future picks, no reason they can't.

But from what we've seen of how people feel about it, I don't think anyone should be surprised if they join a new league and find out they are against it. You should probably expect that would be the case. Anyone wanting such a league should probably check in advance before joining one.

 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
We allow it in our local redraft. Only rule is you have to pay next year's entry fees up front if you're trading away picks. As long as you do that there is no issue whatsoever.
this. not sure why everyone hate on it. whether or not you keep players should be irrelevant.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dr. Octopus said:
Intuitively it doesn't make any sense though because one season of re-draft has nothing to do with the next.
I don't understand this. If anything this sounds more like an argument against basing next year's draft order on this year's standings, or something. But just because it's a redraft doesn't mean there's no continuity. My local redraft league has had the same owners for years, and trades frequently involve future picks. It's never been an issue.
agreed. most redrafts are that way b/c the owners like the draft too much. but no reason you should allow for teams to build for the future/make runs this year with creative trades.
 
'da_budman said:
...Put another way. Take the word collusion out of it. Assume you were allowed to trade away all your players for draft picks next year. You are, in effect, completely tanking one year to load up the 2nd year. Im pretty sure I would come out WAY ahead if allowed to do that in a redraft league. ...
I think that gets at the heart of it. In a redraft you could trade every last worthwhile player from your roster with no downside beyond this year. In a dynasty that would be a losing strategy. A truly decimated dynasty roster could take years before rookies were producing at fantasy starter worthy levels. Plus redraft picks with every player available are worth more than rookie or keeper picks where the player pool is limited, so more can be gained by employing that kind of strategy.One can say, "But our owners won't do that". And hopefully everyone plays in leagues with great owners who wouldn't. But reading the threads here shows there are a lot of people who will do anything that will give them an edge unless it is expressly forbidden in the rules. So when people don't want to see that happen, the safest way to avoid it is to not allow future year picks to be traded in a redraft.
 
talk about the ultimate in tanking. trade your good players away for future picks, at the same time, making your team terrible so that your own pick is better. i could see someone grabbing 3 or 4 1sts some season and totally dominating.

 
Funny that everyone's imagining these doomsday scenarios. The fact is there's no reason you can't have a redraft league that allows trading future picks. I know because I've been in one for years and we've never had any problems.

If you're afraid of people tanking, put some things in place to prevent tanking, e.g. weekly cash penalties for the lowest scoring teams, consolation bowls that reward teams that play well even when they're out of the playoffs, draft order based not on reverse standings but on something that disincetivizes tanking, etc.

Apparently a lot of people can't imagine how this is possible, and that's fine I guess, although it's strange. But the correct answer to the OP is yes, it's legitimate to allow future draft pick trades in redraft, as long as it's a well-run league. It's pretend football, if you can find 10-12 guys who all agree to a certain set of rules, there's no reason they can't.

 
Funny that everyone's imagining these doomsday scenarios. The fact is there's no reason you can't have a redraft league that allows trading future picks. I know because I've been in one for years and we've never had any problems. If you're afraid of people tanking, put some things in place to prevent tanking, e.g. weekly cash penalties for the lowest scoring teams, consolation bowls that reward teams that play well even when they're out of the playoffs, draft order based not on reverse standings but on something that disincetivizes tanking, etc. Apparently a lot of people can't imagine how this is possible, and that's fine I guess, although it's strange. But the correct answer to the OP is yes, it's legitimate to allow future draft pick trades in redraft, as long as it's a well-run league. It's pretend football, if you can find 10-12 guys who all agree to a certain set of rules, there's no reason they can't.
Sorry this makes no sense at all.By definition, you're tanking if you're trading a current player for a future draft pick. You're willfully hurting your chances of winning now, in exchange for a better chance of winning later. I can't imagine how the situation could be viewed any other way.I just don't see how it would be OK to trade one guy for a first-round pick next year, but not OK to trade a second guy, then a third guy, etc. If the first trade is legit, then the rest are too. The order they occur should be completely irrelevant.The heart of the issue is this: the teams in a redraft are divvying up a finite talent pool -- this year's NFL players. It is unfair to the remaining teams if two of the teams are entitled to an uneven share of that talent... one team gets more this year, and the other gets more next year. Everybody else is at a disadvantage in both years. The extreme examples laid out earlier illustrate this, but any trade of this nature is the same thing, only on a smaller scale.
 

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