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Trading with teams in your division (1 Viewer)

Godsbrother

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I am going to keep the details of trade out of this to keep it from being moved to the Assistant Coach forum.

I am in a league where you can keep 2 players but they cannot be at the same position. So I know that I am keeping a QB and a RB but I am leaving another top 20 RB unprotected.

So I have been offered a draft pick for this other RB but the offer is from another team in my division. The trade would certainly help my opponent but the extra high draft pick would help me considerably. If the offer had come from a team outside of my division I would take it in a heartbeat but I am wondering how the shark pool feels about making mutually-beneficial trades to a division opponent.

Thoughts?

 
I am going to keep the details of trade out of this to keep it from being moved to the Assistant Coach forum. I am in a league where you can keep 2 players but they cannot be at the same position. So I know that I am keeping a QB and a RB but I am leaving another top 20 RB unprotected.So I have been offered a draft pick for this other RB but the offer is from another team in my division. The trade would certainly help my opponent but the extra high draft pick would help me considerably. If the offer had come from a team outside of my division I would take it in a heartbeat but I am wondering how the shark pool feels about making mutually-beneficial trades to a division opponent.Thoughts?
If it improves your team, do it. Remember that when he trades you a pick, he also hurts his team in the draft as he has one less pick.
 
I am going to keep the details of trade out of this to keep it from being moved to the Assistant Coach forum. I am in a league where you can keep 2 players but they cannot be at the same position. So I know that I am keeping a QB and a RB but I am leaving another top 20 RB unprotected.So I have been offered a draft pick for this other RB but the offer is from another team in my division. The trade would certainly help my opponent but the extra high draft pick would help me considerably. If the offer had come from a team outside of my division I would take it in a heartbeat but I am wondering how the shark pool feels about making mutually-beneficial trades to a division opponent.Thoughts?
If it improves your team, do it. Remember that when he trades you a pick, he also hurts his team in the draft as he has one less pick.
True but he'll be getting a top 20 RB for that pick.This is a case where I think the trade on paper benefits both teams. It is hard to say which team will benefit the most until after the season.My question is if the move definitely improves your team but it also improves a division opponent do you pull the trigger?
 
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The only way I would be concerned about making such a move is if I felt that such a trade made the other team significantly stronger and much more likely to win or challenge for the division. Outside of that, I wouldn't stress it at all and I'd make the move.

 
This trade helps you tremendously. Look at i this way. Would you rather have to just let the guy go back into the player pool and you get no compensation? It is like when teams in baseball trade away the players in the last year of their contract. They would rather get something in return rather than let him walk and get nothing. You win here more than he does. Don't worry about if he is in your division or not.

 
The only way I would be concerned about making such a move is if I felt that such a trade made the other team significantly stronger and much more likely to win or challenge for the division. Outside of that, I wouldn't stress it at all and I'd make the move.
I agree. I have to throw this RB back in draft so there is a chance my opponent will pick him up anyway. I think in general you should try to improve your team first so I think I am going to do it.
 
I am going to keep the details of trade out of this to keep it from being moved to the Assistant Coach forum. I am in a league where you can keep 2 players but they cannot be at the same position. So I know that I am keeping a QB and a RB but I am leaving another top 20 RB unprotected.So I have been offered a draft pick for this other RB but the offer is from another team in my division. The trade would certainly help my opponent but the extra high draft pick would help me considerably. If the offer had come from a team outside of my division I would take it in a heartbeat but I am wondering how the shark pool feels about making mutually-beneficial trades to a division opponent.Thoughts?
Don't forget the draft pick will lose value as well since you are making his team better thus lowering his draft pick.Its tough to trade within the division but in the end, I do whats best for my team and don't worry about other peoples teams. If you think its a fair deal and acquiring the draft pick improves your team, then don't worry about it.
 
TheGreatest said:
Godsbrother said:
I am going to keep the details of trade out of this to keep it from being moved to the Assistant Coach forum. I am in a league where you can keep 2 players but they cannot be at the same position. So I know that I am keeping a QB and a RB but I am leaving another top 20 RB unprotected.So I have been offered a draft pick for this other RB but the offer is from another team in my division. The trade would certainly help my opponent but the extra high draft pick would help me considerably. If the offer had come from a team outside of my division I would take it in a heartbeat but I am wondering how the shark pool feels about making mutually-beneficial trades to a division opponent.Thoughts?
Don't forget the draft pick will lose value as well since you are making his team better thus lowering his draft pick.Its tough to trade within the division but in the end, I do whats best for my team and don't worry about other peoples teams. If you think its a fair deal and acquiring the draft pick improves your team, then don't worry about it.
Isn't the pick for this year? Don't forget, he can keep 2 players now, if he trades you a pick for your drop, he has to drop someone else. I would think this trade is one that helps you a lot more than it does him, so I do it.I honestly don't put much thought into whether the other team is in my division, unless we're both the top 2 teams and we're close.
 
Is there is a chance he might have drafted this player anyway? You are getting something for nothing if you think about it. You are going to lose the player anyway. Trade him, get something for him and improve your squad. That's really all you can worry about. Yeah he may be a divisional rival, but in the end, as long as you are improving your team I would be happy.

 
As others have said, if the trade helps the other team by a lot more than it helps you I wouldn't do it.

Let's look at it another way though for the case of at least even trades. If I offered to make worse every single team in the league other than yourself and 1 other team in your division, wouldn't you want me to?

As long as the other team isn't gaining more than you, do it. But, be a tougher negotiator and work harder to get every last drop of value out of the trade.

 
As others have said, if the trade helps the other team by a lot more than it helps you I wouldn't do it. Let's look at it another way though for the case of at least even trades. If I offered to make worse every single team in the league other than yourself and 1 other team in your division, wouldn't you want me to?
:goodposting: You need to help yourself - you imporve relatively against everyone except one team.
 
Bristol said:
This trade helps you tremendously. Look at i this way. Would you rather have to just let the guy go back into the player pool and you get no compensation? It is like when teams in baseball trade away the players in the last year of their contract. They would rather get something in return rather than let him walk and get nothing. You win here more than he does. Don't worry about if he is in your division or not.
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I would perhaps see if there is any interest from teams in the other division, but I wouldn't hesitate to make the trade unless it helps your opponent much more than it helps you.

Not making the trade prevents your opponent from getting stronger, but it also prevents you from improving your team relative to every other team in the division.

Overall, you're improving your team compared to everyone else except for this divisional foe. No question I would make the trade.

 
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I agree with the sentiments that I should do the trade. Wouldn't you know that when I emailed him and said I'll do the trade he cam back with a worse offer. I said WTF? I am accepting your original offer. The guy he was after was Ronnie Brown now he is saying that Brown may not be the starter, blah blah blah.

I told him to forget it. I hate when people make an offer and then try changing the deal when you try to accept it.

 
I trade with everyone, but I am a little more judicious when trading within my division. If the pick is a good one and you can't keep the player anyway then have at it. Would the other owner be able to pick up this player in the darft with the pick he's giving you? If so then he is going to get the guy anyway, but he'll do it also getting to keep an additional player AND you won't be picking twice in the 1st.

I just can't see how you don't do it.

As for the division thing my attitude is I don't care who I trade with as long as I am upgrading my team greater than my trade partner's.

 
I'm pretty cutthroat when it comes to my division, especially since division record goes a long way towards making the playoffs. It's even tougher this year, since all 4 of us are very well balanced. Not to mention I know all 3 of them well, and they're definitely not rookies at FF. I'd hate to say I'd NEVER do a trade, because if there's some serious value for me there I'll jump on it, but I'm not going out of my way to do it either.

It would have to be seriously in my favor. Otherwise I'll probably pass.

 
If you feel it benefits your team, do it. I never take into account whether a team is in my division to determine if I should trade. The best thing you can do is make your team stronger.

In a keeper league as you have described, I would not trade away a top-20 RB cheaply because then I have the ability to redraft him. My point that while an extra pick is always beneficial, it has to be appropriate value for the player. If you feel it is, pull the trigger.

 

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