Travdogg's positional rankings from week 12 onward (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Josh Allen (2)
2. Jalen Hurts (1)
3. Patrick Mahomes (3)
Tier 2:
4. CJ Stroud (8), YPA is through the roof of late, offense is clicking, and other than 1 game at NYJ, weather will be on his side too.
5. Lamar Jackson (5)
6. Justin Herbert (4)
7. Tua Tagovailoa (9)
Tier 3:
8. Justin Fields (12), could be a tier higher, but I want to see this rushing stick. If he's getting 15+ rushes, he'll be a top-6 guy. Looked pretty healthy.
9. Dak Prescott (7)
10. Brock Purdy (13)
Tier 4:
11. Jared Goff (10)
12. Kyler Murray (14)
13. Sam Howell (11)
14. Josh Dobbs (NR), averaging 22 PPG since becoming a Viking and has a rushing TD in 5 straight dating back to Cardinals.
15. Trevor Lawrence (15)

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (6), wrist injury ends mostly underwhelming season.

 

[travdogg]

RB
Tier 1:
1. Christian McCaffrey (1)
2. Travis Etienne (2)
3. Austin Ekeler (3)
Tier 2:
4. D'Andre Swift (4)
5. Breece Hall (6)
6. Jonathan Taylor (5)
7. Bijan Robinson (7)
Tier 3:
8. David Montgomery (9)
9. Jahmyr Gibbs (10)
10. Isiah Pacheco (18)
11. Tony Pollard (11)
12. Javonte Williams (12)
Tier 4:
13. Saquon Barkley (15)
14. Alvin Kamara (13)
15. Josh Jacobs (16)
16. Rachaad White (24)
17. Rhamondre Stevenson (28), thinking NE comes out of the bye being crazy run heavy, and they have a nice schedule going forward.
Tier 5:
18. Raheem Mostert (20)
19. Derrick Henry (23)
20. Joe Mixon (17)
21. Jaylen Warren (NR), love the player, but the workload makes it hard to go higher. Wonder what the OC change will bring?
Tier 6:
22. De'Von Achane (8), little concerned about his knee and if Miami exercises caution as they are pretty much in the playoffs already.
23. Kyren Williams (21)
24. Kenneth Walker (14), kinda toeing the line with this ranking. I think he's out this week, but he could be longer, always tough to tell with Seattle. Charbonnet would make the list if the absence is more than 1 game.
25. James Conner (26)
Tier 7:
26. James Cook (27)
27. Brian Robinson (22)
28. Jerome Ford (25)
29. Aaron Jones (19), similar to Walker. He's out Thanksgiving for sure, but its possible he only misses one game. Unlike Seattle, I'm not sure Dillon would make the list if Jones were out forever though.
30. Miles Sanders (NR), seemed to take the lead role back from Hubbard last week.

Dropped off: Alexander Mattison (29), losing work to Chandler and now has to deal with a QB who takes rushing scores. Chuba Hubbard (30), is looking like the 1B to Sanders again.

 

[travdogg]

WR
Tier 1:
1. Tyreek Hill (1)
2. Keenan Allen (7)
3. CeeDee Lamb (3)
4. AJ Brown (2)
5. Amon-Ra St. Brown (4)
6. Stefon Diggs (5)
Tier 2:
7. Justin Jefferson (8)
8. Brandon Aiyuk (11)
9. Ja'Marr Chase (6)
10. Puka Nacua (12)
11. Davante Adams (10)
12. DeVonta Smith (15)
13. Cooper Kupp (9)
Tier 3:
14. DJ Moore (24), he's been a WR1 with Fields this year. That's skewed a little by that monster Washington game, but clearly he's MUCH better with Fields than T-Bag.
15. DK Metcalf (16)
16. Jaylen Waddle (14)
Tier 4:
17. Mike Evans (18)
18. Tank Dell (27), has established himself as the WR1 in Houston. Houston seemingly is missing a WR every week, so its possible he'll come down a little when everyone is healthy, but I don't want to bet against him.
19. Michael Pittman (20)
20. Chris Olave (17)
21. Deebo Samuel (19)
22. Calvin Ridley (36), has outproduced Kirk in 2 of the last 3, and has been a WR1 whenever Zay Jones plays, which has been 3 games, Ridley in those games (8-101-1, 7-136, 7-121-2) and he also could have had a 3rd TD last week, but Lawrence just missed him.
23. Garrett Wilson (21)
Tier 5:
24. Nico Collins (23)
25. Christian Kirk (25)
26. Hollywood Brown (22)
27. Zay Flowers (32)
Tier 6:
28. Adam Thielen (13), new hardest guy to rank for me. He's getting the targets back, but the offense is just SO bad.
29. DeAndre Hopkins (30)
30. Tyler Lockett (34)
31. Terry McLaurin (35)
32. Diontae Johnson (26), 33 yards the last 2 games, he looks the same as usual, but the passing game has been rough. Maybe the new OC will help?
Tier 7:
33. Jordan Addison (33)
34. Courtland Sutton (NR), the rarely seen GL WR. He's topped 76 yards 1 time this season, and the TDs in theory are unsustainable, but he's got 8, and they all came in different games.
35. Amari Cooper (29)
36. Drake London (40)
37. Tee Higgins (31)
Tier 8:
38. George Pickens (37)
39. Rashee Rice (39)
40. Chris Godwin (38)

Dropped off: Jakobi Meyers (28), has been a lot less involved with O'Connell, and Renfrow has started to emerge a bit.

 

[travdogg]

TE
Tier 1:
1. Travis Kelce (1)
2. TJ Hockenson (3)
3. George Kittle (4)
Tier 2:
4. Dalton Kincaid (6)
5. Sam LaPorta (5)
6. Evan Engram (7)
Tier 3:
7. Trey McBride (9)
8. Dalton Schultz (13), has gotten 71 yards or a TD in all but 1 game since week 4. I've probably been a little too conservative with him.
9. Jake Ferguson (8)
Tier 4:
10. David Njoku (15), has been ramping up the last few weeks, despite 3 different QBs. 15 targets from DTR last week, and a nice schedule going forward.
11. Cole Kmet (12)
12. Kyle Pitts (10)
Tier 5:
13. Taysom Hill (11)
14. Luke Musgrave (NR), has been a little lost in the shuffle with the great rookie TE play, but he's been hitting some big plays of late. Jordan Love has also been playing quite a bit better. Apparently picked up an abdominal injury last week, so he looks like a GTD on Thanksgiving.
15. Isaiah Likely (NR), didn't do much when Andrews was out week 1, or last week, but was a top-5 guy last season when Andrews was out. There is more emphasis/talent on the WRs this year, but Likely feels worth a look.

Dropped off: Mark Andrews (2), Thursday really sucked last week for injuries. I'm not expecting Andrews to play again this regular season. Logan Thomas (14), on the one hand he's seen 5 targets in 5 straight games, on the other he hasn't topped 10 points since week 5.

 

[EWV1]

I'm not sure how high I could raise him either but is your ranking of Brian Robinson partly due to his schedule (tough run D's, still has week 14 bye)?
I realize these lists are forward looking but his production has been solid.

 

[tricky92]

I'm not sure how high I could raise him either but is your ranking of Brian Robinson partly due to his schedule (tough run D's, still has week 14 bye)?
I realize these lists are forward looking but his production has been solid.

Every week, I'm like "how the hell is this guy the #4 ranked RB in half ppr?" And yet there he is again after another week.

 

[zoonation]

The weekly Kamara disrespect continues.

RBs I would rather have than Kamara, who has an absolutely CAKE schedule every week going forward:

1. McCaffrey
2. Gibbs

End of list. RB3 going forward, which he has produced as all year to this point.

 

[Deamon]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Josh Allen (2)
2. Jalen Hurts (1)
3. Patrick Mahomes (3)
Tier 2:
4. CJ Stroud (8), YPA is through the roof of late, offense is clicking, and other than 1 game at NYJ, weather will be on his side too.
5. Lamar Jackson (5)
6. Justin Herbert (4)
7. Tua Tagovailoa (9)
Tier 3:
8. Justin Fields (12), could be a tier higher, but I want to see this rushing stick. If he's getting 15+ rushes, he'll be a top-6 guy. Looked pretty healthy.
9. Dak Prescott (7)
10. Brock Purdy (13)
Tier 4:
11. Jared Goff (10)
12. Kyler Murray (14)
13. Sam Howell (11)
14. Josh Dobbs (NR), averaging 22 PPG since becoming a Viking and has a rushing TD in 5 straight dating back to Cardinals.
15. Trevor Lawrence (15)

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (6), wrist injury ends mostly underwhelming season.

HOWELL NOT A QB1 GOING FORWARD?!?!?! THAT'S ABSOLUTE INSANITY!!!!

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Gus should be creeping up into this list before the end of season. RB5 YTD in non-PPR entering week 12. only rub is he's quite TD dependent for scoring, but he's getting all the looks at the goal line and with Lamar doing Lamar things I like the opportunity spectrum. also looking like K Mitchell is taking away Hill's piece of the pie more than Gus, which many of you correctly predicted.

 

[Lansdowne]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Josh Allen (2)
2. Jalen Hurts (1)
3. Patrick Mahomes (3)
Tier 2:
4. CJ Stroud (8), YPA is through the roof of late, offense is clicking, and other than 1 game at NYJ, weather will be on his side too.
5. Lamar Jackson (5)
6. Justin Herbert (4)
7. Tua Tagovailoa (9)
Tier 3:
8. Justin Fields (12), could be a tier higher, but I want to see this rushing stick. If he's getting 15+ rushes, he'll be a top-6 guy. Looked pretty healthy.
9. Dak Prescott (7)
10. Brock Purdy (13)
Tier 4:
11. Jared Goff (10)
12. Kyler Murray (14)
13. Sam Howell (11)
14. Josh Dobbs (NR), averaging 22 PPG since becoming a Viking and has a rushing TD in 5 straight dating back to Cardinals.
15. Trevor Lawrence (15)

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (6), wrist injury ends mostly underwhelming season.

HOWELL NOT A QB1 GOING FORWARD?!?!?! THAT'S ABSOLUTE INSANITY!!!!

I hear you there. In my league Howell is 10th among QB at fantasy points per game, ahead of Lamar, Tua, Fields, and Goff. Howell gets it done ugly but he gets it done. His remaining schedule is not great though so maybe that is baked into the skeptic ranking?

 

[Deamon]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Josh Allen (2)
2. Jalen Hurts (1)
3. Patrick Mahomes (3)
Tier 2:
4. CJ Stroud (8), YPA is through the roof of late, offense is clicking, and other than 1 game at NYJ, weather will be on his side too.
5. Lamar Jackson (5)
6. Justin Herbert (4)
7. Tua Tagovailoa (9)
Tier 3:
8. Justin Fields (12), could be a tier higher, but I want to see this rushing stick. If he's getting 15+ rushes, he'll be a top-6 guy. Looked pretty healthy.
9. Dak Prescott (7)
10. Brock Purdy (13)
Tier 4:
11. Jared Goff (10)
12. Kyler Murray (14)
13. Sam Howell (11)
14. Josh Dobbs (NR), averaging 22 PPG since becoming a Viking and has a rushing TD in 5 straight dating back to Cardinals.
15. Trevor Lawrence (15)

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (6), wrist injury ends mostly underwhelming season

HOWELL NOT A QB1 GOING FORWARD?!?!?! THAT'S ABSOLUTE INSANITY!!!!

I hear you there. In my league Howell is 10th among QB at fantasy points per game, ahead of Lamar, Tua, Fields, and Goff. Howell gets it done ugly but he gets it done. His remaining schedule is not great though so maybe that is baked into the skeptic ranking?

Haha I was being sarcastic. Howell at 13 ROS makes perfect sense

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

All I know is, I have not hesitated in starting Tank Dell over Davante Adams the last two weeks and I’m likely doing it again. 18 just feels too low being strapped to Stroud

 

[Hoh]

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about Kupp.

 

[BobbyLayne]

21. Jaylen Warren (NR), love the player, but the workload makes it hard to go higher. Wonder what the OC change will bring?

This seems about right; since the bye week his average finish has been 16.6, and that's a little skewed by the last 2 weeks.

Week	OPP	ATT	Rushing	targets	REC	Receiving	TDs	FF pts	Rank
7	@LAR	6	32	2	1	-1	1	10	RB24
8	JAC	5	19	5	4	19	0	8	RB35
9	TEN	11	88	3	3	25	0	14	RB14
10	GB	15	101	4	2	9	1	19	RB8
11	@CLE	9	129	3	3	16	1	24	RB2

 

[BobbyLayne]

Feel like Jordan Jayden Reed should start getting consideration. Really only plays from the Slot in 11 formations but his efficiency has been stellar. Among qualifying WR his YPC of 14.5 is 30th, Y/RR of 1.82 is 33rd, ADoT of 11.9 is 40th, FDs he's 46th, NFL Passer Rtg 116.9 is 19th. Pretty good considering 78.6% of his snaps are at Slot WR and he is only 63rd in routes run. He leads the Packers in yardage and is pacing for 54-787-4. Since the bye his pace has been 65-860-10.

WK	OPP.	TGT	REC	REYDS	RUSH	RUYDS	TD	FP	WR FINISH
1	@CHI	5	2	48	1	-2	0	7	59
2	@ATL	8	4	37	0	0	2	20	20
3	NO	7	3	63	0	0	0	9	50
4	DET	5	3	55	0	0	0	11	36
5	@LV	2	1	7	0	0	0	2	96
6	BYE WEEK
7	@Den	4	3	21	0	0	1	11	32
8	MIN	6	4	83	0	0	0	12	36
9	LAR	3	3	19	1	21	0	7	46
10	@PIT	5	5	84	0	0	1	19	11
11	LAC	6	4	46	3	46	1	19	11

 

[BobbyLayne]

4. Dalton Kincaid (6)
5. Sam LaPorta (5)

Agree with this, might even think of moving Sam lower. He's still involved but since they started trying to integrate Jamo the offense has been less efficient. Teams have taken way the deep intermediate to Josh Reynolds and the crossers to LaPorta that were a staple of his game before the bye by clogging the middle with S and LBs dropping off. They are being forced to work outside the hash more (except St, who is phenomenal at creating short area separation.)

 

[travdogg]

I'm not sure how high I could raise him either but is your ranking of Brian Robinson partly due to his schedule (tough run D's, still has week 14 bye)?
I realize these lists are forward looking but his production has been solid.

Schedule and a lack of belief in his newfound receiving role. Its funny, I have multiple Robinson shares, and other than last week, I've never felt really good about starting him.

Gus should be creeping up into this list before the end of season. RB5 YTD in non-PPR entering week 12. only rub is he's quite TD dependent for scoring, but he's getting all the looks at the goal line and with Lamar doing Lamar things I like the opportunity spectrum. also looking like K Mitchell is taking away Hill's piece of the pie more than Gus, which many of you correctly predicted.

Yeah, I'm also lower on the TD dependent guys. Gus would be in the 30s for me, just because it all feels a little lucky. Its a similar reason why Robinson is in the 20s. I always tend to lean toward volume over TDs. I also think Mitchell's role is likely only going to get bigger, as they likely need more playmaking ability with Andrews out.

As an aside, I also wonder if I'm too low on Flowers in the wake of Andrews injury.

 

[travdogg]

All I know is, I have not hesitated in starting Tank Dell over Davante Adams the last two weeks and I’m likely doing it again. 18 just feels too low being strapped to Stroud

That's probably fair. I love Dell (and always have, I thought he was a borderline 1st rounder in rookie drafts) and have been thoroughly impressed with him of late. I just think Adams is one of the best WRs in the NFL, and since the McDaniels firing, he's gone back to being treated like it with 26 targets over the last 2 weeks. I'd be happy to be starting both.

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about Kupp.

Its possible I'm being stubborn here, but the Rams are a passing team, Kupp has shown an elite ceiling, and it sounds like the ankle isn't a big deal, as McVay said he's a GTD this week. He (and Puka) also has maybe the best schedule in the fantasy playoffs, with Wash/NO/NYG.

 

[travdogg]

21. Jaylen Warren (NR), love the player, but the workload makes it hard to go higher. Wonder what the OC change will bring?

This seems about right; since the bye week his average finish has been 16.6, and that's a little skewed by the last 2 weeks.

Week	OPP	ATT	Rushing	targets	REC	Receiving	TDs	FF pts	Rank
7	@LAR	6	32	2	1	-1	1	10	RB24
8	JAC	5	19	5	4	19	0	8	RB35
9	TEN	11	88	3	3	25	0	14	RB14
10	GB	15	101	4	2	9	1	19	RB8
11	@CLE	9	129	3	3	16	1	24	RB2

He's graduated to the list at last. I have 3 Warren shares, so I'm hoping his workload greatly increases after the Canada firing. He's been on my bench most of this run, including last week, but that's been entirely volume related. On one of my dynasty teams, Warren is a big reason I traded Henry away from my 8-3 team.

Feel like Jordan Reed should start getting consideration. Really only plays from the Slot in 11 formations but his efficiency has been stellar. Among qualifying WR his YPC of 14.5 is 30th, Y/RR of 1.82 is 33rd, ADoT of 11.9 is 40th, FDs he's 46th, NFL Passer Rtg 116.9 is 19th. Pretty good considering 78.6% of his snaps are at Slot WR and he is only 63rd in routes run. He leads the Packers in yardage and is pacing for 54-787-4. Since the bye his pace has been 65-860-10.

WK	OPP.	TGT	REC	REYDS	RUSH	RUYDS	TD	FP	WR FINISH
1	@CHI	5	2	48	1	-2	0	7	59
2	@ATL	8	4	37	0	0	2	20	20
3	NO	7	3	63	0	0	0	9	50
4	DET	5	3	55	0	0	0	11	36
5	@LV	2	1	7	0	0	0	2	96
6	BYE WEEK
7	@Den	4	3	21	0	0	1	11	32
8	MIN	6	4	83	0	0	0	12	36
9	LAR	3	3	19	1	21	0	7	46
10	@PIT	5	5	84	0	0	1	19	11
11	LAC	6	4	46	3	46	1	19	11

Another guy I have in multiple leagues. I think there is a chance Jayden Reed (Jordan was long a fixture on my teams circa 2015) is the Packers #1 WR. I've gotten a bit of a young Tyler Lockett vibe from him, where the team is starting to go out of their way to find ways to get him the ball. He probably would have been on the list if I went to 50 WRs. Really excited about his dynasty potential though.

4. Dalton Kincaid (6)
5. Sam LaPorta (5)

Agree with this, might even think of moving Sam lower. He's still involved but since they started trying to integrate Jamo the offense has been less efficient. Teams have taken way the deep intermediate to Josh Reynolds and the crossers to LaPorta that were a staple of his game before the bye by clogging the middle with S and LBs dropping off. They are being forced to work outside the hash more (except St, who is phenomenal at creating short area separation.)

Hitting on all the guys I have shares of this week. LaPorta has been a little disappointing of late, and I have noticed that his bigger games have required at least 1 of Monty/Gibbs/Amon-Ra to be out.

Having said that, I have a hard time moving a guy in a top offense, with outstanding talent down too far. Kincaid moves ahead because all those things also apply to him, but with more talent (in my opinion Kincaid is on the Ertz/Andrews spectrum) and a more pass heavy offense.

I'd like to see LaPorta used more in the PA game given how effective the running game has been. Perhaps he would have had a bigger game last week if Goff hadn't thrown the 3 INTs and greatly effected the time of possession?

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

As an aside, I also wonder if I'm too low on Flowers in the wake of Andrews injury.

I love his prospect for the future and the opportunities he's getting on this offense. Zay will see a bump in targets no doubt, but Andrews being the only other receiver piece on this team, he'll also see more attention imo from the defense without Andrews on the field. I'd expect Likely and Bateman to get a big chunk of the vacated targets, they have to step up. Their next 3 opponents over four weeks (plus bye) are listed as top 5 worst defenses against TE's (fact checking myself, Chargers are actually top 10 worst, other two are Rams and Jags in the top 5). It seems very rare for a alpha receiver who is not elite to perform better without their other half on the field. He isn't elite (yet) imo.

 

[tricky92]

Beckham has looked like Beckham over the past three games. He might be a late season impact player.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I'd like to see LaPorta used more in the PA game given how effective the running game has been. Perhaps he would have had a bigger game last week if Goff hadn't thrown the 3 INTs and greatly effected the time of possession?

It’s more about teams clogging the middle of the zone. Thats where LaPorta on short crossers and Josh Reynolds on deep intermediates excelled the first 6 weeks. Hasn’t been there the past 4 games.

 

[GoBirds]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Josh Allen (2)
2. Jalen Hurts (1)
3. Patrick Mahomes (3)
Tier 2:
4. CJ Stroud (8), YPA is through the roof of late, offense is clicking, and other than 1 game at NYJ, weather will be on his side too.
5. Lamar Jackson (5)
6. Justin Herbert (4)
7. Tua Tagovailoa (9)
Tier 3:
8. Justin Fields (12), could be a tier higher, but I want to see this rushing stick. If he's getting 15+ rushes, he'll be a top-6 guy. Looked pretty healthy.
9. Dak Prescott (7)
10. Brock Purdy (13)
Tier 4:
11. Jared Goff (10)
12. Kyler Murray (14)
13. Sam Howell (11)
14. Josh Dobbs (NR), averaging 22 PPG since becoming a Viking and has a rushing TD in 5 straight dating back to Cardinals.
15. Trevor Lawrence (15)

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (6), wrist injury ends mostly underwhelming season.

HOWELL NOT A QB1 GOING FORWARD?!?!?! THAT'S ABSOLUTE INSANITY!!!!

I hear you there. In my league Howell is 10th among QB at fantasy points per game, ahead of Lamar, Tua, Fields, and Goff. Howell gets it done ugly but he gets it done. His remaining schedule is not great though so maybe that is baked into the skeptic ranking?

Blake Bortles 2.0?

 

[Tau837]

 

[BobbyLayne]

16. Jaylen Waddle (14)

I don't understand this. He's WR31 on the year, Jayden Reed is WR32, 0.58 pts behind him on 16 less targets. On a PPG basis he is WR30. Every week this season he has been consitently ranked as a mid-to-high end WR2 or low end WR1, and he never lives up to it. His consensus ROS rank is WR20. His weekly finishes in PPR:

1. WR31
2. WR43
3. injuried
4. WR47
5. WR30
6. WR13
7. WR27
8. WR6
9. WR39
10. bye
11. WR36

average 30.22

if we want to be charitable and throw out the first 4 weeks, he has been WR 25.2

it's just not there for him this year, it's Tyreek's world and he is not eating into that anytime soon

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Mine Evans’ is still channeling his inner Rodney Dangerfield, what’s this guy gotta do to get a little respect?

 

[Deamon]

Pollard at #1 next week?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Hard to justify Dak not being ranked a top end qb1 ROS (top 6). The way he’s been playing—I don’t see how anybody can see him as a backend QB1.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Hard to justify Dak not being ranked a top end qb1 ROS (top 6). The way he’s been playing—I don’t see how anybody can see him as a backend QB1.

Yep. This is a pass-first offense that is executing extremely well.

 

[kface]

The weekly Kamara disrespect continues.

RBs I would rather have than Kamara, who has an absolutely CAKE schedule every week going forward:

1. McCaffrey
2. Gibbs

End of list. RB3 going forward, which he has produced as all year to this point.

I wish you were in my league

Cake schedule doesn't matter with NO because Carr is the QB

 

[ZADO]

Dak has a cakewalk Playoff schedule

May want to bump him up

 

[msudaisy26]

Mahomes is the best real qb in the league, but with his defense and lack of receivera this year he should be some where between 6th and 10th.

 

[zoonation]

The weekly Kamara disrespect continues.

RBs I would rather have than Kamara, who has an absolutely CAKE schedule every week going forward:

1. McCaffrey
2. Gibbs

End of list. RB3 going forward, which he has produced as all year to this point.

I wish you were in my league

Cake schedule doesn't matter with NO because Carr is the QB

Kamara is the RB3 in ppg this year with Carr as his qb. And he gets all the work.