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Travdogg's positional rankings from week 3 onward (6 Viewers)

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QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (2)
2. Josh Allen (1)
3. Jayden Daniels (4)
4. Jalen Hurts (3)

Tier 2:
5. Patrick Mahomes (6)
6. Baker Mayfield (7)
7. Justin Herbert (11), the current QB5, he's chipping in as a rusher and the run game isn't trusted yet in the redzone.
8. Jared Goff (NR), probably overcorrected last week, and was underrating the Packers D, which is maybe NFL's best. Felt like they wanted to make a statement last week, and kinda ran it up on the Bears.
9. Caleb Williams (12)
10. Justin Fields (8)

Tier 3:
11. Jordan Love (NR), looks better than ever to me, and just missed some huge plays.
12. Bo Nix (NR), hasn't been as a good as his numbers, but he runs, and the emergence of Franklin could be a real boon.
13. Michael Penix (13)
14. Jake Browning (NR), he averages only 16 fewer yards and .5 TDs a game less than Burrow. He won't be as good, but he's got elite weapons, and won't be a disaster.
15. Brock Purdy (10), didn't realize how bad he was hurt last Tuesday. I think he's worth holding onto, but likely won't be rushed back with 49ers 2-0 start.

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (5), rough injury, I kinda doubt we see him again this season, unless Browning can somehow overcome this defense. JJ McCarthy (9), this is an injury, not a benching. Lot of weird conspiracy theorists out there it seems. Was awful against the Falcons, isn't worth holding, but will be on the radar on his return. Kyler Murray (14), 2 good matchups to open the season, and just not showing much upside. Trevor Lawrence (15), the rushing hasn't been there, and he's had some communication errors with the good WRs.
 
RB
Tier 1:
1. Bijan Robinson (2)
2. Christian McCaffrey (4)
3. Derrick Henry (1)
4. Saquon Barkley (3)
5. Jahmyr Gibbs (5)

Tier 2:
6. James Cook (12), he's being used more than last year, which was somewhat unexpected, but maybe it should have been after the extension? Pretty game script proof as well.
7. Jonathan Taylor (14), being sniped at the GL and offense not quite on that upper level yet are only things keeping him from tier 1. As long as he stays healthy (3+ missed games each of the last 3 years) he might end up being the best value of drafts.
8. De'Von Achane (6)
9, Josh Jacobs (7)
10. Bucky Irving (9)

Tier 3:
11. Kyren Williams (11)
12. Chase Brown (8)
13. Ashton Jeanty (10)

Tier 4:
14. Chuba Hubbard (19)
15. Alvin Kamara (13)
16. Travis Etienne (18)
17. Kenneth Walker (28), He's just such a bigger talent than Charbonnet. 75% workloads probably are never coming back, but that also might be good for his chances of staying healthy.
18. Omarion Hampton (15)

Tier 5:
19. James Conner (16)
20. Breece Hall (20)
21. D'Andre Swift (17)

Tier 6:
22. Javonte Williams (23)
23. Jaylen Warren (25)
24. Jordan Mason (21)

Tier 7:
25. Tony Pollard (26)
26. Jacory Croskey-Merritt (30)
27. Aaron Jones (24)
28. RJ Harvey (22), 13 touches through 2 games isn't ideal, but I'd exercise patience here. I still think he finishes the season as the RB to own, how patient you can be is probably team by team.
29. TreVeyon Henderson (27)
30. JK Dobbins (NR), clearly the lead back for now. 71 yards and a TD 2 straight weeks. Doubt he holds the job all year though.

Dropped off: Zach Charbonnet (29), workload is being split evenly for now, but I just think Walker is a far greater talent.
 
WR
Tier 1:
1. Malik Nabers (7), 25 targets in 2 games, and if the deep ball is here to stay (and I think Russ and Dart offer that) Nabers could be everything Chase was with Burrow. Giants should be chasing most weeks, probably giving him league leading volume.
2. Puka Nacua (1)
3. Ja'Marr Chase (4)
4. CeeDee Lamb (2)
5. Justin Jefferson (3)

Tier 2:
6. Amon-Ra St. Brown (9)
7. Nico Collins (5)
8. Brian Thomas (6)
9. Drake London (8)

Tier 3:
10. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (14)
11. Garrett Wilson (10)
12. AJ Brown (13)

Tier 4:
13. Zay Flowers (19)
14. Tetairoa McMillan (16)
15. Marvin Harrison (11)
16. Tee Higgins (12)
17. Ladd McConkey (15)
18. Rashee Rice (18)

Tier 5:
19. Emeka Egbuka (20)
20. Deebo Samuel (32), I think he is actually the biggest beneficiary of the Ekeler injury. Expecting SF level backfield usage, combined with all the stuff he was already getting. 10+ weekly touches.
21. Davante Adams (23)
22. Jameson Williams (25)
23. Mike Evans (22)
24. Terry McLaurin (24)
25. Travis Hunter (17), 14 targets in 2 games to start his career is nice, but they've all been pretty close to the LoS. Still exercising patience, but he's more an upside stash than a guy you wanna start right now. I'll fully admit its possible I'm being too stubborn on a prospect I loved.

Tier 6:
26. DK Metcalf (28)
27. Ricky Pearsall (27)
28. Tyreek Hill (30)
29. Chris Olave (29)
30. DJ Moore (21), speaking of being too stubborn, I'm not quite ready to anoint Odunze as the #1 yet, but its getting close. I would like to see more in a week where garbage time started in the 2nd quarter.

Tier 7:
31. Rome Odunze (34)
32. Jakobi Meyers (33)
33. Jaylen Waddle (35)
34. George Pickens (38)
35. Courtland Sutton (26), I've always felt Sutton was a #2 talent wise, but his value has been being the clear #1, and while I'm not saying that is changing, I do think Franklin is a threat.
36. DeVonta Smith (31)

Tier 8:
37. Michael Pittman (37)
38. Calvin Ridley (36)
39. Xavier Worthy (NR), may somehow only miss 1 week. While I'd be worried about re-injury, his upside requires a return to the list.
40. Keon Coleman (40)

Dropped off: Jerry Jeudy (40), I'm not 100% sure Flacco makes it until October, and he hasn't been the clear #1 as expected.
 
TE
Tier 1:
1. Trey McBride (1)
2. Brock Bowers (2)
3. Tyler Warren (6), leading the position on yards (and 14th overall) he's already looking must start, and hasn't even scored a TD yet. Absolutely looks like this year's Bowers.

Tier 2:
4. Sam LaPorta (3)
5. Tucker Kraft (8), already in the midst of a breakout year, the injury to Jayden Reed only helps, as it adds to Kraft's deep usage. If GB skews a bit more pass heavy with Love looking back to 2023 form, he could land in tier 1.
6. George Kittle (4)

Tier 3:
7. Travis Kelce (7)
8. TJ Hockenson (5)
9. Dalton Kincaid (9)
10. David Njoku (10)

Tier 4:
11. Harold Fannin (NR), #2 TE and slot WR is an interesting role. Feels like he's here to stay, and I don't think he'll be hurt by a move from Flacco.
12. Kyle Pitts (NR), was my last omission last week, and while he didn't have a great game or anything, he looks healthy and explosive and that's the biggest thing that's been missing with him.
13. Dallas Goedert (13)
14. Mark Andrews (12)
15. Juwan Johnson (NR), certainly possible I'm being too stubborn with a guy who is a top-3 TE these first 2 weeks and has 20 targets. I'd ok riding him while he's hot, but don't trust him for the season.

Dropped off: Colston Loveland (11), playing almost 30% fewer snaps than Kmet. I can justify stashing him still, but he's nowhere near a starting lineup right now. Hunter Henry (14), followed up an 8 target game, with being in more of a split with Austin Hooper. Still possible the Patriot to own is nobody. Brenton Strange (15), just when I was warming up to the idea of Strange being the #3 option in the Jags pass game, here come Dyami Brown and Parker Washinton to combine for 10-133-1.
 
I can understand why he doesn't warrant a place this week but but seems pretty clear Quinshon Judkins will be joining the RoS Rankings party soon.

Has to be a lot of projection going on to keep TreVeon Henderson in the top 30 just based on where he is at in the hierarchy at the moment. Could apply the same thought process to Judkins, no?
 
travdogg said:
QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (2)
2. Josh Allen (1)
3. Jayden Daniels (4)
4. Jalen Hurts (3)

Tier 2:
5. Patrick Mahomes (6)
6. Baker Mayfield (7)
7. Justin Herbert (11), the current QB5, he's chipping in as a rusher and the run game isn't trusted yet in the redzone.
8. Jared Goff (NR), probably overcorrected last week, and was underrating the Packers D, which is maybe NFL's best. Felt like they wanted to make a statement last week, and kinda ran it up on the Bears.
9. Caleb Williams (12)
10. Justin Fields (8)

Tier 3:
11. Jordan Love (NR), looks better than ever to me, and just missed some huge plays.
12. Bo Nix (NR), hasn't been as a good as his numbers, but he runs, and the emergence of Franklin could be a real boon.
13. Michael Penix (13)
14. Jake Browning (NR), he averages only 16 fewer yards and .5 TDs a game less than Burrow. He won't be as good, but he's got elite weapons, and won't be a disaster.
15. Brock Purdy (10), didn't realize how bad he was hurt last Tuesday. I think he's worth holding onto, but likely won't be rushed back with 49ers 2-0 start.

Dropped off: Joe Burrow (5), rough injury, I kinda doubt we see him again this season, unless Browning can somehow overcome this defense. JJ McCarthy (9), this is an injury, not a benching. Lot of weird conspiracy theorists out there it seems. Was awful against the Falcons, isn't worth holding, but will be on the radar on his return. Kyler Murray (14), 2 good matchups to open the season, and just not showing much upside. Trevor Lawrence (15), the rushing hasn't been there, and he's had some communication errors with the good WRs.
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Wow. I guess you haven’t seen Maye play yet. That’s ok. The list will be updated. I’d have Maye at 8 right now. Moving up quickly
 
jobarules said:
VikingFrog said:
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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He’s the 43rd ranked WR in .5 PPR two games in. Seems like he’s ranked okay.
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Lol what? Hes 10th in fantasy points in my half ppr league
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Weird. You are right. I filtered by all WRs season total, and almost everyone is adding up both weeks scores but for some reason Allen is only showing week 1… but his week 2 total is in there.

Weird glitch in the system to make me look dumb. Tell me to shut up and carry on. My wife does it all the time.
 
VikingFrog said:
jobarules said:
VikingFrog said:
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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He’s the 43rd ranked WR in .5 PPR two games in. Seems like he’s ranked okay.
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Lol what? Hes 10th in fantasy points in my half ppr league
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Weird. You are right. I filtered by all WRs season total, and almost everyone is adding up both weeks scores but for some reason Allen is only showing week 1… but his week 2 total is in there.

Weird glitch in the system to make me look dumb. Tell me to shut up and carry on. My wife does it all the time.
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Lol in fairness I saw it on yahoo too but knew it couldn't possibly be right.
 
VikingFrog said:
jobarules said:
VikingFrog said:
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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He’s the 43rd ranked WR in .5 PPR two games in. Seems like he’s ranked okay.
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Lol what? Hes 10th in fantasy points in my half ppr league
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Weird. You are right. I filtered by all WRs season total, and almost everyone is adding up both weeks scores but for some reason Allen is only showing week 1… but his week 2 total is in there.

Weird glitch in the system to make me look dumb. Tell me to shut up and carry on. My wife does it all the time.
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haha.. all good
 
BobbyLayne said:
I can understand why he doesn't warrant a place this week but but seems pretty clear Quinshon Judkins will be joining the RoS Rankings party soon.

Has to be a lot of projection going on to keep TreVeon Henderson in the top 30 just based on where he is at in the hierarchy at the moment. Could apply the same thought process to Judkins, no?
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And Judkins doesn't have a Stevenson ahead of him in the depth chart.
 
RaidersAreOne said:
No Danny Dimes? :crying:
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VikingFrog said:
Indiana Jones must be hiding up in Tier 0 as the ultimate ascending QB.
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Jones was in the 20 to 15 cutdown. He's been very productive so far for sure, and Warren certainly looks for real. I'll freely admit that if he were say, Cam Ward for instance, he'd probably be on the list. Its the fact that he's Daniel Jones and we've seen him look solid in spurts before cratering. 2 games isn't enough for me to trust him yet. To be fair, I went through the same song and dance with Darnold last year, and I got that one wrong, and I thought Jones was better in NY than Darnold was. He's not far off.
 
IHEARTFF said:
These are great as usual.
When Rattler and DJones?
AJ Brown way too high
TEs are awful (not your rankings)
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Rattler is pretty far off. I like what I've seen, but he's still one implosion away from having job security issues.

I think AJ Brown is about the biggest buy-low there is right now. Philly WILL pass more. They have to. The offense has been legit bad through 2 games. They could easily be 0-2 right now. They've barely edged out wins over Dallas (maybe an 8-win team) and a nowhere near full strength KC team. I think that starts this week against a Rams team that can actually score points, and one that will likely heavily sell out against Barkley given what he did to them last year.
 
BobbyLayne said:
I can understand why he doesn't warrant a place this week but but seems pretty clear Quinshon Judkins will be joining the RoS Rankings party soon.

Has to be a lot of projection going on to keep TreVeon Henderson in the top 30 just based on where he is at in the hierarchy at the moment. Could apply the same thought process to Judkins, no?
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He and Skattebo were the last 2 cuts, and I made the list before Jones was on IR. So, I'd probably move Skattebo to #30, and Judkins would be the last cut.

With Judkins, I am a little cautious as I'm still expecting a suspension at some point. He also is attached to probably the worst offense in the NFL. I also think Henderson is a superior talent. Henderson is on the bubble himself, but he's also a guy who I think pops one huge play, and suddenly everyone will be back on board, so I'm hesitant to move him too low.

If it comes out that Judkins won't be suspended, he'll make the list.
 
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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Its very possible I'll be proven wrong on this, but I actually have Allen as the #3 WR on the Chargers. I'd prefer Johnston. Allen has started strong, but I think he's a strong sell high. I doubt he can keep up this pace all year, and I also expect the Chargers to run the ball more as the season goes on. I also highly doubt McConkey stays the least productive of the Chargers WRs.
 
Preseason you had Davante Adams at WR13, stating “ Adams (WR13), will be seeing the most favorable coverage he's had in close to a decade, and has top-5 upside should something happen to Puka, as arguably nobody schemes up WRs better than McVay.”

After week one you dropped him to 23. Which I understand.

But then he came back and sort of produced like you’d projected in the preseason and was massively targeted with 13 targets in week 2 and 8 in week 1.

Just curious where you think he ultimately lands, as he got knocked back a peg in your rankings and hasn’t earned it back yet with a 100+ and a TD outing.
 
travdogg said:
IHEARTFF said:
These are great as usual.
When Rattler and DJones?
AJ Brown way too high
TEs are awful (not your rankings)
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Rattler is pretty far off. I like what I've seen, but he's still one implosion away from having job security issues.

I think AJ Brown is about the biggest buy-low there is right now. Philly WILL pass more. They have to. The offense has been legit bad through 2 games. They could easily be 0-2 right now. They've barely edged out wins over Dallas (maybe an 8-win team) and a nowhere near full strength KC team. I think that starts this week against a Rams team that can actually score points, and one that will likely heavily sell out against Barkley given what he did to them last year.
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I want to Buy Low in Brown right now in so many leagues, but I can’t seem to get owners to bite.
 
FantasyGuru24 said:
JMason has to be ranked higher with AJones out for 4 weeks.
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I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure that just doesn't lead to them running less, which the QB change could do as well. I also expect Cam Akers to step right back into what his role down the stretch was last season. They also have an extremely banged up OL. Even without Jones, I don't have enough confidence to say any more than low-end RB2 for Mason.
 
Jayden too high, Mahomes too low. I might bump Herbert above both

Jonathan Taylor too low. He belongs in the top 5 at a minimum and should be ahead of Cook and Henry

Kyren & Hampton too high. Hall too low

Justin Jefferson too high. There's too much uncertainty at QB. I'd take JSN over him ROS in a millisecond (JSN way too low)

How is Moore ahead of Odunze? We're already seeing a changing of the guard and I expect Loveland and Burden to steal more targets soon

Pitts is too low. I'd take Pitts over Hock, Kelce, and Kincaid right now
 
travdogg said:
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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Its very possible I'll be proven wrong on this, but I actually have Allen as the #3 WR on the Chargers. I'd prefer Johnston. Allen has started strong, but I think he's a strong sell high. I doubt he can keep up this pace all year, and I also expect the Chargers to run the ball more as the season goes on. I also highly doubt McConkey stays the least productive of the Chargers WRs.
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I love your work and the effort you put in these threads, but I do think you will be proven wrong on this. In standard PPR, Allen has been a top 12 WR in ppg in every season he has played with Herbert (2020-2023, 2025 so far). Last season, Bears OC Waldron was terrible and was fired after week 10; in weeks 11-18, Allen was WR23 in ppg, even with rookie QB Williams passing to him.

We have yet to see any point in Allen's 12+ season career in which he was not a top 30 fantasy WR in ppg other than that stretch with Waldron last season and in 2016 when he tore his ACL in the 2nd quarter of week 1.

So far, obviously a small sample size, but Herbert has a 131.7 passer rating when targeting Allen (6th highest among WRs with at least 10 targets), and Allen has 9 first downs on 12 receptions. I understand that Ladd and Johnston are both playing well also, but I just don't see why the Chargers would go away from Allen significantly.

Like you, I doubt he will hold his current position all season, but I can't see him out of the top 40 unless due to injury.

I recognize my bias as a Chargers fan and big Allen fan. :homer:
 
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Cowboy hater? No Dak or Ferg for that matter seems odd.
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I'd not sure its a good idea to chase last weeks OT shootout. I think that's an outlier game. Even with that, Dak is QB20 so far, largely because he doesn't run anymore. Bears matchup this week is nice, so I'd rank him in the top-15 this week.

Ferguson was the last TE omission. I think he's the #3 option in the passing game, and I'm not sure the offense can support 3 guys. They did against NYG, but I don't think that's the norm. He somehow hasn't had a TD since the 2023 playoffs, but he does get a lot of catches, particularly when they are chasing which they will sometimes do. He probably makes the list if I wasn't being perhaps overly respectful to Mark Andrews, as last time I booted him from the list he scored a TD in like 8 straight games.
 
Tau837 said:
travdogg said:
jvdesigns2002 said:
Great work---I hate to nitpick--but Keenan Allen absolutely needs to be somewhere in that WR2/3 range. Not having him in a top 40 fantasy wr list does not make sense.
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Its very possible I'll be proven wrong on this, but I actually have Allen as the #3 WR on the Chargers. I'd prefer Johnston. Allen has started strong, but I think he's a strong sell high. I doubt he can keep up this pace all year, and I also expect the Chargers to run the ball more as the season goes on. I also highly doubt McConkey stays the least productive of the Chargers WRs.
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I love your work and the effort you put in these threads, but I do think you will be proven wrong on this. In standard PPR, Allen has been a top 12 WR in ppg in every season he has played with Herbert (2020-2023, 2025 so far). Last season, Bears OC Waldron was terrible and was fired after week 10; in weeks 11-18, Allen was WR23 in ppg, even with rookie QB Williams passing to him.

We have yet to see any point in Allen's 12+ season career in which he was not a top 30 fantasy WR in ppg other than that stretch with Waldron last season and in 2016 when he tore his ACL in the 2nd quarter of week 1.

So far, obviously a small sample size, but Herbert has a 131.7 passer rating when targeting Allen (6th highest among WRs with at least 10 targets), and Allen has 9 first downs on 12 receptions. I understand that Ladd and Johnston are both playing well also, but I just don't see why the Chargers would go away from Allen significantly.

Like you, I doubt he will hold his current position all season, but I can't see him out of the top 40 unless due to injury.

I recognize my bias as a Chargers fan and big Allen fan. :homer:
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Yeah, I'm more aligned with you on this. I just cannot fathom or justify a situation (barring injury or a trade to an undesirable team) where Keenan Allen isn't somewhere in the WR2-3 range in any sort of PPR format. Last year was supposed to be Keenan's disaster year--and he still mustered 7 tds in that murky situation. While I don't expect a td every game this season, I don't see his targets dropping off--and frankly--I think the types of targets and the types of looks he is getting are completely sustainable. They aren't flukey--and I actually think a lot of what he provides to the Chargers in an extension of the running game. His ability to find gaps for short passes, and to find space in the end zone when they get close is like a pseudo extension of the running game. The Chargers are 2-0 with Ladd, Allen, and johnston all contributing. I don't think Harbough is going to necessarily force the ball to Ladd more "just because". Even if that ends up being the case--the more that defenses focus in on Ladd, the more that Allen will find his spots. I do think that Johnston and Ladd could cap Allen's ceiling--but I think he has a floor and a moderate enough upside to absolutely justify a top 24-30ish ranking.
 
zoonation said:
So, if I understand this right, you are projecting Travis Hunter to have low end WR2 value rest of year? I’m sure I’ve misinterpreted.
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I'm saying I think he has the upside to easily top low-end WR2 value by the end of the year, but he's not there at all at the moment. I think he's a guy to hold, but ideally not start, right now, because he could be huge down the stretch.

If I were just ranking for the next couple weeks, I'd probably take all the guys in the tier below him over him, but I don't think any of those guys, other than Hill (who has his own issues) have his upside.
 
With a better defense and good running game I’m not sure penix will be anything more than game manager plus. Probably put jones or maye in for him. Kinda like a worse Jordan love
 
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