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Travis Henry. Marijuana. Suspension? (1 Viewer)

Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
I think I am more confused now than before I watched that video. I wish this would end soon. I am taking up 2 roster spots with the Denver RB and because of injuries will probably be taking a ZERO this week....Young better be worth it.
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
 
why would Henry submit a Hair sample if he really did it ?

this from rotoworld

(Rotoworld) Travis Henry was excused from practice Tuesday so that he could fly to New York as part of his challenging a positive drug test.

Impact: According to the Rocky Mountain News, it's believed that Henry submitted a hair sample and took a lie-detector test. Meanwhile, the Denver Post reports that Henry's "suit is ongoing and could take up to five weeks, including appeal time." The Broncos are on their bye this week.
You can't really fake a hair test its more accurate then a Urine a urine test and goes back alot further. SDtarting to think he might be innocent.
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
It's not that I don't believe her. It's just that up until this point, every other report has said the court case would delay NFL action for a few weeks, then if he lost that case he'd get suspended, with the option to appeal. Now it looks like the court case does not matter at all.
 
why would Henry submit a Hair sample if he really did it ?

this from rotoworld

(Rotoworld) Travis Henry was excused from practice Tuesday so that he could fly to New York as part of his challenging a positive drug test.

Impact: According to the Rocky Mountain News, it's believed that Henry submitted a hair sample and took a lie-detector test. Meanwhile, the Denver Post reports that Henry's "suit is ongoing and could take up to five weeks, including appeal time." The Broncos are on their bye this week.
You can't really fake a hair test its more accurate then a Urine a urine test and goes back alot further. SDtarting to think he might be innocent.
You can mask that just like any other test, from what I understand. Keep telling yourself that if it will make you feel better. I feel your pain.
 
i'm sorry can someone please explain-i watched the video and everything. is this new news good or bad for henry? bad, right?

 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
It's not that I don't believe her. It's just that up until this point, every other report has said the court case would delay NFL action for a few weeks, then if he lost that case he'd get suspended, with the option to appeal. Now it looks like the court case does not matter at all.
I agree. Assuming the reporter does have a good source, Henry has received a suspension letter. If this is the case then it appears the NFL has determined that 1) he tested positive and 2) the testing procedure was legit. If he appeals the suspension, how far out does that put his suspension? After week 8 or 9?
 
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why would Henry submit a Hair sample if he really did it ?

this from rotoworld

(Rotoworld) Travis Henry was excused from practice Tuesday so that he could fly to New York as part of his challenging a positive drug test.

Impact: According to the Rocky Mountain News, it's believed that Henry submitted a hair sample and took a lie-detector test. Meanwhile, the Denver Post reports that Henry's "suit is ongoing and could take up to five weeks, including appeal time." The Broncos are on their bye this week.
You can't really fake a hair test its more accurate then a Urine a urine test and goes back alot further. SDtarting to think he might be innocent.
Unless you have a previously plucked and clean hair plus an inside guy to submit it for him. :unsure:
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
It's not that I don't believe her. It's just that up until this point, every other report has said the court case would delay NFL action for a few weeks, then if he lost that case he'd get suspended, with the option to appeal. Now it looks like the court case does not matter at all.
I agree. Assuming the reporter does have a good source, Henry has received a suspension letter. If this is the case then it appears the NFL has determined that 1) he tested positive and 2) the testing procedure was legit. If he appeals the suspension, how far out does that put his suspension? After week 8 or 9?
If he gets the suspension letter Monday 10/15, then appeals by next Friday 10/19 (he has 5 days to do so), I'd say the Week 7 match-up vs. Pittsburgh would be his last game. Unless he pulls off the biggest upset in sports history and wins the appeal. I can't see the appeal taking the possible 1 - 2 weeks as has been reported. He could sneak in Week 8, I guess, but that's probably wishful thinking. This is all assuming the reporter has the story correct.
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
It's not that I don't believe her. It's just that up until this point, every other report has said the court case would delay NFL action for a few weeks, then if he lost that case he'd get suspended, with the option to appeal. Now it looks like the court case does not matter at all.
I agree. Assuming the reporter does have a good source, Henry has received a suspension letter. If this is the case then it appears the NFL has determined that 1) he tested positive and 2) the testing procedure was legit. If he appeals the suspension, how far out does that put his suspension? After week 8 or 9?
If he gets the suspension letter Monday 10/15, then appeals by next Friday 10/19 (he has 5 days to do so), I'd say the Week 7 match-up vs. Pittsburgh would be his last game. Unless he pulls off the biggest upset in sports history and wins the appeal. I can't see the appeal taking the possible 1 - 2 weeks as has been reported. He could sneak in Week 8, I guess, but that's probably wishful thinking. This is all assuming the reporter has the story correct.
Considering how things move under Goodell, I can't disagree with your timeline. One minor correction, the reporter in the Fox video said that Henry HAS RECEIVED the suspension letter.
 
Sounds like the NFL is moving forward with the formal suspension process (according to this site). Says he has 5 days to appeal the suspension, and a hearing will likely be scheduled 1-2 weeks after that should he file an appeal. This is a seperate process from his leagal challenge of the "B sample" that is in court.

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D..._DAYS_TO_APPEAL
Couldn't get your link to work, but there is a video saying what you did on the myfoxcolorado site.Video
According to that video/reporter, the pending court case doesn't matter and the NFL is going forward with the suspension. So why has every reporter, up until this point, said the NFL was awaiting on the court ruling? Does anyone know anything with this case, or are they all just passing along the first bit of hearsay info they get? The lack of solid/consistent info coming out in this case is a joke.
The reporter in the video is the person who originally broke the story last week - what 17 pages ago in this thread? Sounds to me as if she has a good source.
It's not that I don't believe her. It's just that up until this point, every other report has said the court case would delay NFL action for a few weeks, then if he lost that case he'd get suspended, with the option to appeal. Now it looks like the court case does not matter at all.
I agree. Assuming the reporter does have a good source, Henry has received a suspension letter. If this is the case then it appears the NFL has determined that 1) he tested positive and 2) the testing procedure was legit. If he appeals the suspension, how far out does that put his suspension? After week 8 or 9?
If he gets the suspension letter Monday 10/15, then appeals by next Friday 10/19 (he has 5 days to do so), I'd say the Week 7 match-up vs. Pittsburgh would be his last game. Unless he pulls off the biggest upset in sports history and wins the appeal. I can't see the appeal taking the possible 1 - 2 weeks as has been reported. He could sneak in Week 8, I guess, but that's probably wishful thinking. This is all assuming the reporter has the story correct.
Considering how things move under Goodell, I can't disagree with your timeline. One minor correction, the reporter in the Fox video said that Henry HAS RECEIVED the suspension letter.
We're splitting hairs here, and the timetable is anyones guess. But, the reported did not say Henry recieved his letter. She said the NFLPA has received an official violation letter, regarding Henry testing positive for marijuana, and that the same letter has been sent out to Henry. He has 5 days to appeal after receiving the letter. His appeal would be sceduled 1 - 2 weeks after it was officially received.
 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.

 
A federal judge has cleared the way for embattled Broncos running back Travis Henry to play football - at least for three more weeks, according to court records made available Thursday.

U.S. District Court Judge Leonard Wexler ordered lawyers for Henry, and opposing NFL lawyers, to file motions in two weeks. Wexler allotted another week after that for filing of responses.

That timetable leaves Henry available to play at least through October. He's been a mainstay of the Broncos' offense, rushing for 498 yards.

He faces a possible one-year suspension amid allegations he may have flunked an NFL drug test.

Henry has filed a lawsuit challenging the NFL's drug-testing program.

He contends the NFL violated its substance-abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be present for the testing of his urine. He won an order in New York state court blocking the NFL from completing its drug test, revealing results, and taking action against him.

NFL lawyers had the case moved to federal court, arguing that this case involves interpretation of a collective bargaining agreement with the NFL players union under federal law.

Henry's lawyers are expected to seek to keep the case in state court, while NFL lawyers would ask the judge to dismiss Henry's lawsuit, according to the latest filing in U.S. District Court in eastern New York.

Lawyers for Henry and the NFL couldn't be reached Thursday. The Broncos aren't playing this weekend and team officials, on break, could not be reached.

seems to be different to what the lady on fox says..

 
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A federal judge has cleared the way for embattled Broncos running back Travis Henry to play football - at least for three more weeks, according to court records made available Thursday.U.S. District Court Judge Leonard Wexler ordered lawyers for Henry, and opposing NFL lawyers, to file motions in two weeks. Wexler allotted another week after that for filing of responses.That timetable leaves Henry available to play at least through October. He's been a mainstay of the Broncos' offense, rushing for 498 yards.He faces a possible one-year suspension amid allegations he may have flunked an NFL drug test.Henry has filed a lawsuit challenging the NFL's drug-testing program.He contends the NFL violated its substance-abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be present for the testing of his urine. He won an order in New York state court blocking the NFL from completing its drug test, revealing results, and taking action against him.NFL lawyers had the case moved to federal court, arguing that this case involves interpretation of a collective bargaining agreement with the NFL players union under federal law.Henry's lawyers are expected to seek to keep the case in state court, while NFL lawyers would ask the judge to dismiss Henry's lawsuit, according to the latest filing in U.S. District Court in eastern New York.Lawyers for Henry and the NFL couldn't be reached Thursday. The Broncos aren't playing this weekend and team officials, on break, could not be reached.seems to be different to what the lady on fox says..
Thanks Niaboc. Just wondering what the source is on that and if you have a link.
 
Travis Henry's lawsuit against the NFL is being closely watched across the country. Many believe it can be a landmark case if Henry wins.

There are many who believe the Broncos' star running back might be innocent since his case likely will revolve around low levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in his urine sample. Henry's case is expected to revolve around the possibility of secondhand marijuana smoke and his willingness to submit to a lie detector test and give hair samples. Those moves could make his case viable.

Still, many in the league don't expect him to win, but his victory would change the way positive drug tests are approached by players and their representatives and could have an effect on how the substance abuse program is operated. The NFL is very difficult to beat legally, especially in the case of drug testing. Thus, the consensus is Henry eventually will be suspended, and it could be November before such a move is finalized after the appeal process.

If Henry is suspended, he will be lonely. The NFL allows players who are suspended for four games (Henry received this punishment two years ago while with Tennessee) to continue to work out at their team's facility. Players who are bounced from the league for a year cannot work out at that facility. Players are tested for drugs during their suspension, and if players who are suspended for a year test positive a fourth time, they receive a lifetime ban.

The Canadian Football League also recently decided to not allow players banned by the NFL to play in that league. Former NFL running backs Ricky Williams and Onterrio Smith played in the CFL while serving year-long NFL bans.

If Henry is suspended, watch for the Broncos and his agent to talk about redoing his contract. A $6 million option bonus kicks in next spring, and that would not be paid by the team. The Broncos are on the books for the $6 million signing bonus paid to Henry, and they can recoup $1.2 million in prorated money. Henry has been paid $1 million of the signing bonus.

 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
Henry's the second leading rusher in the NFL and nine yards behind Willie Parker. You DO realize that the NFL doesn't revolve around the scoring structure of your Yahoo! league, don't you?
 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
what is your scoring system?he has scored 17,12,9,13 and 6 in my leagues.

 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
Henry's the second leading rusher in the NFL and nine yards behind Willie Parker. You DO realize that the NFL doesn't revolve around the scoring structure of your Yahoo! league, don't you?
Yahoo? Negative. You DO realize there are different scoring systems in FF besides your league? You DO realize everyone is entitled to their opinion and they normally base it on their perceptions, not on trying to impress self righteous fantasy "gurus".FWIW I have Parker too, and he is one point ahead of Henry.
 
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The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
what is your scoring system?he has scored 17,12,9,13 and 6 in my leagues.
1 pt per 25 yds rec/rush6 pts per TD < 40 yds, 9 pts > 40 yds, 12 pts >50 yds

 
The Moz said:
why would Henry submit a Hair sample if he really did it ?

this from rotoworld

(Rotoworld) Travis Henry was excused from practice Tuesday so that he could fly to New York as part of his challenging a positive drug test.

Impact: According to the Rocky Mountain News, it's believed that Henry submitted a hair sample and took a lie-detector test. Meanwhile, the Denver Post reports that Henry's "suit is ongoing and could take up to five weeks, including appeal time." The Broncos are on their bye this week.
You can't really fake a hair test its more accurate then a Urine a urine test and goes back alot further. SDtarting to think he might be innocent.
You most definitely can make it through a hair test. there's a couple of products on the market that can mask the presense of THC in hair.
 
thatguythere said:
fsufan said:
thatguythere said:
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
what is your scoring system?he has scored 17,12,9,13 and 6 in my leagues.
1 pt per 25 yds rec/rush6 pts per TD < 40 yds, 9 pts > 40 yds, 12 pts >50 yds
1 TD through the first five is not great at all for a low first round pick. I don't own Henry though and have been waiting for things to clear up in the suspension/legal process so I can deal Young. The Henry owner told me the other day that he'd need to 'drink about 90 beers' before he'd consider Young and Cutler for Brady. :goodposting:
 
Niaboc said:
A federal judge has cleared the way for embattled Broncos running back Travis Henry to play football - at least for three more weeks, according to court records made available Thursday.U.S. District Court Judge Leonard Wexler ordered lawyers for Henry, and opposing NFL lawyers, to file motions in two weeks. Wexler allotted another week after that for filing of responses.That timetable leaves Henry available to play at least through October. He's been a mainstay of the Broncos' offense, rushing for 498 yards.He faces a possible one-year suspension amid allegations he may have flunked an NFL drug test.Henry has filed a lawsuit challenging the NFL's drug-testing program.He contends the NFL violated its substance-abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be present for the testing of his urine. He won an order in New York state court blocking the NFL from completing its drug test, revealing results, and taking action against him.NFL lawyers had the case moved to federal court, arguing that this case involves interpretation of a collective bargaining agreement with the NFL players union under federal law.Henry's lawyers are expected to seek to keep the case in state court, while NFL lawyers would ask the judge to dismiss Henry's lawsuit, according to the latest filing in U.S. District Court in eastern New York.Lawyers for Henry and the NFL couldn't be reached Thursday. The Broncos aren't playing this weekend and team officials, on break, could not be reached.seems to be different to what the lady on fox says..
Wow, this story changes every day. I go to bed thinking he's possibly played his last game of the year, only to wake up and read that he may be good to go for another few weeks. It doesn't seem like the media has a good grasp of what is going on with this case.
 
thatguythere said:
bentley said:
thatguythere said:
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
Henry's the second leading rusher in the NFL and nine yards behind Willie Parker. You DO realize that the NFL doesn't revolve around the scoring structure of your Yahoo! league, don't you?
Yahoo? Negative. You DO realize there are different scoring systems in FF besides your league? You DO realize everyone is entitled to their opinion and they normally base it on their perceptions, not on trying to impress self righteous fantasy "gurus".FWIW I have Parker too, and he is one point ahead of Henry.
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well. I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.
 
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well. I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.
Henry is playing well from a football perspective. From a fantasy perspective he's not really living up to expectations. Stud running backs need to find the end zone and him and Mr. Parker despite being a lot better yardage wise than some other top 10ers are not passing the stripe. That being said, running backs in general are a disaster this year.
 
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well. I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.
Henry is playing well from a football perspective. From a fantasy perspective he's not really living up to expectations. Stud running backs need to find the end zone and him and Mr. Parker despite being a lot better yardage wise than some other top 10ers are not passing the stripe. That being said, running backs in general are a disaster this year.
That's what I was saying. He is getting his yardage and that's it...if your scoring system is weighted heavier for yardage then you probably are a lot better off. I'm not saying he is a POS, I just don't think he is living up to expectations in a league with some yardage, but heavier TD scoring.
 
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If Denver was smart they should start putting in a different RB some more. Knowing Henry will be gone within 4 weeks or so.
Yeh that's real smart ... Then when the "different RB" gets hurt or banged up and Henry is suspeneded they'll be twice as screwed.But as long as it helps your fantasy team they might consider it.
 
If Denver was smart they should start putting in a different RB some more. Knowing Henry will be gone within 4 weeks or so.
I think running your best RB as much as possible prior to his suspension is the best option for DEN. In doing so you don't need to worry about wearing him out or him getting injured, because he won't be there long anyways. And this opinion is in no way influenced by the fact that I need Henry really bad to help my fantasy team. :lol:
 
I picked up Selvin Young last week and LOL someone just dropped Henry this week so he is available on the WW.

However, when I look at it, in my scoring league, as someone has mentioned he isn't doing that great fantasy wise.

Someone just dropped Graham and I picked him up this morning. In my league Graham has 23 pts this year in spot duty, while Henry has 30 carrying the bulk. I feel better with Graham going forward though I know he could be replaced through a new TB running back.

Even this week, everyone says Tenn has a gread def line, but I look at it and Tenn was 31st in allowing points last year and 30th in allowing rushing yards, and now they are without Pacman Jones. I think they have just played for the most part a patsy schedule so far with Jack, Atlanta, and NO. Indy did fine against them running the ball. Graham could have a decent day this week, though I will probably hold him and play Brandon Jacobs. My other goto back is Ronnie Brown. :thumbup:

 
Oct 12 Bruce Finley, of the Denver Post, reports Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry will be able to play through the next three weeks at least. Lawyers for both Henry and the NFL have been ordered by U.S. District Court Judge Leonard Walker to file motions in two weeks and responses in the week after that, during which time Henry will be able to play.

 
Fantasy talk

Don't give up hope on Henry

Don't give up hope on Henry

Posted 10/12/2007 11:14 AM EDT

The most common question I've heard this week, other than about picking up Jason Wright, is how long Travis Henry might be able to play. Well, there's a report today in the Denver Post indicating it could be longer than you think.

The paper says legal proceedings will keep Henry on the field at least through October, which includes two more games after the team's off week. And, reading between the lines of a lot of what we have heard so far, you get the feeling (or at least I do) that Henry has more of a case than other folks who have tried to take on the NFL.

I'm not saying you should feel comfortable with Henry as one of your starters for the rest of the season, but you also do not have a fire sale to dump him. It still is a very fluid situation so if you'd rather avoid the risk, then trading him is your best move. Of course, you also might be able to trade for him inexpensively if you want to gamble.

The Broncos still need to shore up their run defense. If that doesn't happen, the offense never will be on the field enough for Henry to have a big season. For now, though, he has some hope off the field

Matt Pitzer's page :thumbup:

 
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well. I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.
Henry is playing well from a football perspective. From a fantasy perspective he's not really living up to expectations. Stud running backs need to find the end zone and him and Mr. Parker despite being a lot better yardage wise than some other top 10ers are not passing the stripe. That being said, running backs in general are a disaster this year.
That's what I was saying. He is getting his yardage and that's it...if your scoring system is weighted heavier for yardage then you probably are a lot better off. I'm not saying he is a POS, I just don't think he is living up to expectations in a league with some yardage, but heavier TD scoring.
Granted.But, saying he isn't "playing" well implies he isn't playing well from an NFL perspective. Therefore, you need to understand where some of these folks are coming from. In your league, and in TD heavy leagues, Henry could be considered close to a bust. In standard FF scoring leagues, he's doing OK, but below expectations.On the legalities, I have a hunch the NFL will be considering two things this week:1) whether Henry's lawsuit sets a poor precedent2) whether they can spin a "false positive" correctlyAnd they will definitely be watching out for a TRO or injunction preventing them from suspending Henry. Often, a CBA opens organizations up to a certain amount of federal jurisdiction - at least in terms of arbitration of disputes.I think this is def. a "stay tuned" issue, and is highly volatile/unpredictable. But, I also think it will be resolved early next week (Goodell might have the authority to suspend the punishment until next year)
 
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well.

I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.
Henry is playing well from a football perspective. From a fantasy perspective he's not really living up to expectations. Stud running backs need to find the end zone and him and Mr. Parker despite being a lot better yardage wise than some other top 10ers are not passing the stripe. That being said, running backs in general are a disaster this year.
That's what I was saying. He is getting his yardage and that's it...if your scoring system is weighted heavier for yardage then you probably are a lot better off. I'm not saying he is a POS, I just don't think he is living up to expectations in a league with some yardage, but heavier TD scoring.
Granted.But, saying he isn't "playing" well implies he isn't playing well from an NFL perspective. Therefore, you need to understand where some of these folks are coming from. In your league, and in TD heavy leagues, Henry could be considered close to a bust. In standard FF scoring leagues, he's doing OK, but below expectations.

On the legalities, I have a hunch the NFL will be considering two things this week:

1) whether Henry's lawsuit sets a poor precedent

2) whether they can spin a "false positive" correctly

And they will definitely be watching out for a TRO or injunction preventing them from suspending Henry. Often, a CBA opens organizations up to a certain amount of federal jurisdiction - at least in terms of arbitration of disputes.

I think this is def. a "stay tuned" issue, and is highly volatile/unpredictable. But, I also think it will be resolved early next week (Goodell might have the authority to suspend the punishment until next year)
Wow. Are you saying you think:1) Henry's test was a false positive? Or that the NFL will spin it that way?

2) That it's probable Henry won't be suspended at all this season?

What do you make of the report from the Denver Fox affiliate that the NFLPA has received a suspension letter from the NFL? Considering that the reporter who broke the story in the first place also reported the letter? I haven't seen anything more about that report anywhere today. Bogus?

 
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The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
You got a TD heavy league. Henry is putting up fine numbers in normal 1pt per 10yd leagues. I doubt many RBs in your league are doing well since there aren't many with TDs this year.
 
It is TD heavy so you have to draft from teams that are normally good at running the football. I've been lobbying for scoring changes for quite a few years in this league but it is an old league and guys just don't want to change. We've come a long way since the pen and paper days.

These guys all are ahead of Henry in points. I took him 9th so I guess its not that bad.....if he plays out the year.

Ronnie Brown

Marion Barber III

Joseph Addai

LT

Brian Westbrook

Adrian Peterson

Edgerrin James

Frank Gore

Jamal Lewis

Sammy Morris

Marshawn Lynch

LaMont Jordan

Derrick Ward

Clinton Portis

Shaun Alexander

Willie Parker

 
Dude, you come on here and claim that Henry isn't playing very well solely based on your league's scoring system. He's 2nd in the NFL in rushing; I'd say that's playing pretty well.

I'm sure your league is awesome and everything but saying Henry isn't playing well is just falt out wrong.

i agree. he's gone for 125+ on the ground in three of five games - games in which he's had 20+ carries. his two down weeks came with 11 and 16 carries respectively. if you want a guy to put up stud numbers he needs a workhorse's amount of carries.

 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
what is your scoring system?he has scored 17,12,9,13 and 6 in my leagues.
1 pt per 25 yds rec/rush6 pts per TD < 40 yds, 9 pts > 40 yds, 12 pts >50 yds
so you get 0 for a 40 yarder? :censored: this whole process is gonna drag out so long that hopefully selvin owners can afford to wait a while. this is the halfway mark just about for most fantasy seasons.

 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
what is your scoring system?he has scored 17,12,9,13 and 6 in my leagues.
1 pt per 25 yds rec/rush6 pts per TD < 40 yds, 9 pts > 40 yds, 12 pts >50 yds
so you get 0 for a 40 yarder? :shrug: this whole process is gonna drag out so long that hopefully selvin owners can afford to wait a while. this is the halfway mark just about for most fantasy seasons.
Nope, 9 pts. Should have read >=40. Sorry, I know you lost sleep over that. :shrug:
 
The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
WoW, :shrug: on him only having those kind of pts!!!! He has scored 19, 14, 8, 14, 7 in both leagues that I am in.
 
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The funny part about the hundreds of posts on his legal troubles is that he ins't playing that well anyway. Without Javon Walker the Broncos don't look very good. They miss him bigtime. Henry has yet to put up more than 7 points in our format, borderline bust for a high pick. Now I'm taking up two roster spots holding him and Selvin Young....and how can anyone expect Young to do any better than Henry. His point totals on the year are 6,5,7,5,2. Could be worse, but def not what I was expecting. I don't know that he would have made it through the entire year anyway the way he was getting banged up. I guess if Young can keep up with what Henry was doing it would be decent production from a waiver wire back.
WoW, :goodposting: on him only having those kind of pts!!!! He has scored 19, 14, 8, 14, 7 in both leagues that I am in.
He's scored 8, 6, 7, 6, and 3 in my league with scoring of 1/20 rushing and receiving, 6 TD. No TDs = bad in TD heavy leagues.
 
From the league's perspective, Henry's "B" urine sample - players give two samples when tested - would not have to be tested in order for its disciplinary procedures to begin. The testing of the "B" sample is a usual option for the player, but not required in the policy.

Henry filed a lawsuit in Suffolk (N.Y.) County court last month to keep the league from testing his "B" sample. The league got that case moved to federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is trying to get the lawsuit thrown out.

Henry's lawyers are trying to keep the case in state court.

But the league's testing policy shows the player may ask for the "B" sample to be tested - within two days of notification of a positive test from the "A" sample - but that the disciplinary policy, the sources said, is set in motion by the "A" sample.

That is independent of Henry's court case in New York, where Henry is challenging parts of the league's drug policy, including how his "B" sample would be tested. Henry's lawyers and the league's lawyers were informed this week by a federal judge they have two weeks to prepare motions and another week to prepare responses to those motions.

Henry also would be given time to prepare for an appeal hearing with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, or someone Goodell designates to oversee the hearing, so the court case and his appeal hearing with the league could conclude about the same time, near the end of this month or early November.
www.rockymountainnews.com
 
From the league's perspective, Henry's "B" urine sample - players give two samples when tested - would not have to be tested in order for its disciplinary procedures to begin. The testing of the "B" sample is a usual option for the player, but not required in the policy.

Henry filed a lawsuit in Suffolk (N.Y.) County court last month to keep the league from testing his "B" sample. The league got that case moved to federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is trying to get the lawsuit thrown out.

Henry's lawyers are trying to keep the case in state court.

But the league's testing policy shows the player may ask for the "B" sample to be tested - within two days of notification of a positive test from the "A" sample - but that the disciplinary policy, the sources said, is set in motion by the "A" sample.

That is independent of Henry's court case in New York, where Henry is challenging parts of the league's drug policy, including how his "B" sample would be tested. Henry's lawyers and the league's lawyers were informed this week by a federal judge they have two weeks to prepare motions and another week to prepare responses to those motions.

Henry also would be given time to prepare for an appeal hearing with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, or someone Goodell designates to oversee the hearing, so the court case and his appeal hearing with the league could conclude about the same time, near the end of this month or early November.
www.rockymountainnews.com
Thanks for the info Big Score! Finally some actual info in this post. I found it odd that we are just getting the news all these days later that sample A starts the suspension paperwork, and sample B is a player option. Media outlets seemed to spin it that both A and B need to be positive for a suspension to happen.
 
So it it likely this thing will drag out 4+ weeks? All the talk is Henry could hang around thru Nov and maybe into Dec.

 

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