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Travis Henry. Marijuana. Suspension? (1 Viewer)

Big Score said:
From the league's perspective, Henry's "B" urine sample - players give two samples when tested - would not have to be tested in order for its disciplinary procedures to begin. The testing of the "B" sample is a usual option for the player, but not required in the policy.

Henry filed a lawsuit in Suffolk (N.Y.) County court last month to keep the league from testing his "B" sample. The league got that case moved to federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is trying to get the lawsuit thrown out.

Henry's lawyers are trying to keep the case in state court.

But the league's testing policy shows the player may ask for the "B" sample to be tested - within two days of notification of a positive test from the "A" sample - but that the disciplinary policy, the sources said, is set in motion by the "A" sample.

That is independent of Henry's court case in New York, where Henry is challenging parts of the league's drug policy, including how his "B" sample would be tested. Henry's lawyers and the league's lawyers were informed this week by a federal judge they have two weeks to prepare motions and another week to prepare responses to those motions.

Henry also would be given time to prepare for an appeal hearing with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, or someone Goodell designates to oversee the hearing, so the court case and his appeal hearing with the league could conclude about the same time, near the end of this month or early November.
www.rockymountainnews.com
I'm not getting this. If all the NFL needs to suspend a player is a postive "A" sample, why is his protest of the "B" sample even an issue?
 
Here is the entire article ....

Henry gets the official word on failed test

Broncos back likely will appeal ruling

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News

October 13, 2007

The court case involving running back Travis Henry's possible one- year suspension is still at least three weeks away from a resolution, but the NFL's discipline policy in the matter continues to march on.

League sources confirmed Friday that Henry officially has been informed, in writing, by the league's Management Council that he is in a violation of the league's drug policy. Any player who has a positive test is sent what other players have called a "violation letter."

By league rules, Henry has five days after receiving the letter to then inform the league if he intends to appeal the decision.

Though it isn't known exactly what day Henry received his letter, he likely would have to officially inform the league - also in writing, as per the league's collective bargaining agreement - of his decision to appeal before the end of the upcoming week.

Neither Henry nor Broncos officials, in the team's bye week, could be reached for comment Friday. Last week, Henry said, "The NFL told me not to discuss nothing."

A league spokesman said Friday the league would have no comment on Henry's case because of confidentiality rules in the drug-testing program.

From the league's perspective, Henry's "B" urine sample - players give two samples when tested - would not have to be tested in order for its disciplinary procedures to begin. The testing of the "B" sample is a usual option for the player, but not required in the policy.

Henry filed a lawsuit in Suffolk (N.Y.) County court last month to keep the league from testing his "B" sample. The league got that case moved to federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is trying to get the lawsuit thrown out.

Henry's lawyers are trying to keep the case in state court.

But the league's testing policy shows the player may ask for the "B" sample to be tested - within two days of notification of a positive test from the "A" sample - but that the disciplinary policy, the sources said, is set in motion by the "A" sample.

That is independent of Henry's court case in New York, where Henry is challenging parts of the league's drug policy, including how his "B" sample would be tested. Henry's lawyers and the league's lawyers were informed this week by a federal judge they have two weeks to prepare motions and another week to prepare responses to those motions.

Henry also would be given time to prepare for an appeal hearing with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, or someone Goodell designates to oversee the hearing, so the court case and his appeal hearing with the league could conclude about the same time, near the end of this month or early November.

Henry will be able to practice and play for the Broncos during the court case and appeal process. If he wins his court case, he is expected to keep playing; the league would likely then appeal that ruling.

In his court case, Henry is claiming that the NFL violated its own substance abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be on hand when the urine sample was tested. The NFL, according to the sources, is contending the rules are clear that players can have their own expert present for testing, as stated in the league's CBA, but that the expert cannot be affiliated with a lab or testing service and that the expert Henry wished to use was affiliated with a lab.

Henry is believed to be disputing other aspects of the testing procedures as well. He is expected to argue that the test result showed too low a threshold for Henry to have used illegal drugs himself rather than a positive test that resulted from secondhand inhalation. Henry, sources said, was told he tested positive for marijuana.

But missing a scheduled test, or the presence of one of several designated diuretics in the urine, also can be counted as a positive test.

Because Henry served a four-week, league-imposed suspension in September 2005 while playing for the Tennessee Titans, he would be facing a yearlong suspension this time. Also, already having been suspended once, he was required to be tested up to 10 times a month for a period of two years; that two-year period was scheduled to be up Oct. 1.

If suspended for a year, Henry would be in "Stage 3" of the league's testing program and he could be tested up to 10 times a month for the remainder of his career.

Henry is the league's second-leading rusher this season, with 498 yards.

legwoldj@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-954-2359

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/...5721614,00.html

 
Here is the entire article ....

Henry gets the official word on failed test

Broncos back likely will appeal ruling

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News

October 13, 2007

The court case involving running back Travis Henry's possible one- year suspension is still at least three weeks away from a resolution, but the NFL's discipline policy in the matter continues to march on.

League sources confirmed Friday that Henry officially has been informed, in writing, by the league's Management Council that he is in a violation of the league's drug policy. Any player who has a positive test is sent what other players have called a "violation letter."

By league rules, Henry has five days after receiving the letter to then inform the league if he intends to appeal the decision.

Though it isn't known exactly what day Henry received his letter, he likely would have to officially inform the league - also in writing, as per the league's collective bargaining agreement - of his decision to appeal before the end of the upcoming week.

Neither Henry nor Broncos officials, in the team's bye week, could be reached for comment Friday. Last week, Henry said, "The NFL told me not to discuss nothing."

A league spokesman said Friday the league would have no comment on Henry's case because of confidentiality rules in the drug-testing program.

From the league's perspective, Henry's "B" urine sample - players give two samples when tested - would not have to be tested in order for its disciplinary procedures to begin. The testing of the "B" sample is a usual option for the player, but not required in the policy.

Henry filed a lawsuit in Suffolk (N.Y.) County court last month to keep the league from testing his "B" sample. The league got that case moved to federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is trying to get the lawsuit thrown out.

Henry's lawyers are trying to keep the case in state court.

But the league's testing policy shows the player may ask for the "B" sample to be tested - within two days of notification of a positive test from the "A" sample - but that the disciplinary policy, the sources said, is set in motion by the "A" sample.

That is independent of Henry's court case in New York, where Henry is challenging parts of the league's drug policy, including how his "B" sample would be tested. Henry's lawyers and the league's lawyers were informed this week by a federal judge they have two weeks to prepare motions and another week to prepare responses to those motions.

Henry also would be given time to prepare for an appeal hearing with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, or someone Goodell designates to oversee the hearing, so the court case and his appeal hearing with the league could conclude about the same time, near the end of this month or early November.

Henry will be able to practice and play for the Broncos during the court case and appeal process. If he wins his court case, he is expected to keep playing; the league would likely then appeal that ruling.

In his court case, Henry is claiming that the NFL violated its own substance abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be on hand when the urine sample was tested. The NFL, according to the sources, is contending the rules are clear that players can have their own expert present for testing, as stated in the league's CBA, but that the expert cannot be affiliated with a lab or testing service and that the expert Henry wished to use was affiliated with a lab.

Henry is believed to be disputing other aspects of the testing procedures as well. He is expected to argue that the test result showed too low a threshold for Henry to have used illegal drugs himself rather than a positive test that resulted from secondhand inhalation. Henry, sources said, was told he tested positive for marijuana.

But missing a scheduled test, or the presence of one of several designated diuretics in the urine, also can be counted as a positive test.

Because Henry served a four-week, league-imposed suspension in September 2005 while playing for the Tennessee Titans, he would be facing a yearlong suspension this time. Also, already having been suspended once, he was required to be tested up to 10 times a month for a period of two years; that two-year period was scheduled to be up Oct. 1.

If suspended for a year, Henry would be in "Stage 3" of the league's testing program and he could be tested up to 10 times a month for the remainder of his career.

Henry is the league's second-leading rusher this season, with 498 yards.

legwoldj@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-954-2359

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/...5721614,00.html
So he files the appeal on Tuesday then? making this his last week to play?
 
wow, this made it to page 4...

On a serious note, it has been 5 days since Henry was notified of the suspension by the NFL. Has an appeal been filed?

 
im just waiting for some more info on this stupid case. I have Henry in one league and Young in another.

Hopefully we get a useful timeline this week.

:excited:

 
Neither Henry nor Broncos officials, in the team's bye week, could be reached for comment Friday. Last week, Henry said, "The NFL told me not to discuss nothing."
The higher the degree to which a RB butchers the English language, the higher I draft him.
In Henry's defense, his answer does JUST that. It does NOT discuss NOTHING. (yet, it doesnt discuss anything, either. perfect PR answer. :popcorn: )
 
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7272758

If Travis Henry's defense team has its way on a motion filed Wednesday, the NFL could suffer a rare court setback and might face possible legal sanctions.

An attorney representing the Broncos running back filed a motion in U.S. District Court stating the NFL violated a temporary restraining order. The order was to prevent the league from testing a second Henry urine sample after the first one came back positive for a "negligible amount" of marijuana.

Attorney Steve Zissou's motion asks that the case be returned to the Supreme Court of the State of New York from the federal court so the judge whose order Zissou says was violated can determine sanctions against the league.

"We are confident we will prevail," said Zissou when reached for comment after the motion was electronically filed in the Eastern District of New York on Wednesday.

Henry, 28, has rushed 549 yards on 119 carries for Denver. This is his first season with the Broncos. He signed a five-year deal in April with $12 million in bonuses after being released by the Tennessee Titans.

Because Henry was in phase two of the league's substance abuse program, a positive test would trigger at least a year's suspension.

Henry's case revolves around him seeking to have his specialist present when a "B" sample of urine was tested in order to confirm the "A" test result.

According to Wednesday's filing, Henry provided a sample Aug. 27, then was notified "on or about Sept. 4" that he had tested positive. Henry sought the restraining order to ensure his specialist was present for the second test, but according to the filing, that did not happen.

Zissou's motion states the case never belonged in the federal court and the violation of the temporary restraining order is further reason to have it sent back to the state court. The NFL requested the case be moved to federal court, contending it involves national labor laws because of an agreement between the league and the players union regarding the substance abuse program.

Until these legal issues are resolved, which could take three weeks or more, it appears Henry will continue to play for the Broncos, who are counting on him to lead their rushing attack.

Henry has said he will not talk about the case under the advice of his attorneys and the NFL. Last week, he said, "I know nothing about what's going on."

 
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7272758

If Travis Henry's defense team has its way on a motion filed Wednesday, the NFL could suffer a rare court setback and might face possible legal sanctions.

An attorney representing the Broncos running back filed a motion in U.S. District Court stating the NFL violated a temporary restraining order. The order was to prevent the league from testing a second Henry urine sample after the first one came back positive for a "negligible amount" of marijuana.

Attorney Steve Zissou's motion asks that the case be returned to the Supreme Court of the State of New York from the federal court so the judge whose order Zissou says was violated can determine sanctions against the league.

"We are confident we will prevail," said Zissou when reached for comment after the motion was electronically filed in the Eastern District of New York on Wednesday.

Henry, 28, has rushed 549 yards on 119 carries for Denver. This is his first season with the Broncos. He signed a five-year deal in April with $12 million in bonuses after being released by the Tennessee Titans.

Because Henry was in phase two of the league's substance abuse program, a positive test would trigger at least a year's suspension.

Henry's case revolves around him seeking to have his specialist present when a "B" sample of urine was tested in order to confirm the "A" test result.

According to Wednesday's filing, Henry provided a sample Aug. 27, then was notified "on or about Sept. 4" that he had tested positive. Henry sought the restraining order to ensure his specialist was present for the second test, but according to the filing, that did not happen.

Zissou's motion states the case never belonged in the federal court and the violation of the temporary restraining order is further reason to have it sent back to the state court. The NFL requested the case be moved to federal court, contending it involves national labor laws because of an agreement between the league and the players union regarding the substance abuse program.

Until these legal issues are resolved, which could take three weeks or more, it appears Henry will continue to play for the Broncos, who are counting on him to lead their rushing attack.

Henry has said he will not talk about the case under the advice of his attorneys and the NFL. Last week, he said, "I know nothing about what's going on."
Does Travis Henry's attorney come to court in a red wool cap and speedo? :thumbdown:
 
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So what ever happened to the report where Henry was going to be suspended by week 10, and this trial issue will be a seperate matter?

So the only Facts I gather from this case is that Henry did have Marijuana in his system while he was still on probabtion.

While its great for Henry to delay this case as long as he can, I seriously doubt the NFL will lose in court.

 
What has surprised me is Henry's performances since this story broke. Assuming at some point he will face suspension, the guy really needs to be making a case to be welcomed back after the suspension. Even if he is successful at dodging the suspension big performances on the field would go a long way towards having people forget about his ignorance, even if as he says its only second hand smoke. I realize he can't go 200/2 without help, but he doesn't look to be running with a chip on his shoulder like i expected. I know Pitt has a good defense, but denver had a 14 pt lead and a perfect opportunity for Henry to make a statement, but 3ypc doesn't say much. If he gets a 1 year suspension is Denver obligated to him when he comes back? Surely not. And would anyone be interested at much more than the veteran’s minimum?

 
The Denver Post reports that the NFL has set a Nov. 5 hearing for Travis Henry to appeal his third positive test for marijuana. "I know nothing," Henry said. "I really don't know any dates for anything." Henry faces a year-long suspension if the league upholds its decision. However, Henry has also taken the case to a federal court, saying the NFL didn't adhere to its testing procedures.
 
What has surprised me is Henry's performances since this story broke. Assuming at some point he will face suspension, the guy really needs to be making a case to be welcomed back after the suspension. Even if he is successful at dodging the suspension big performances on the field would go a long way towards having people forget about his ignorance, even if as he says its only second hand smoke. I realize he can't go 200/2 without help, but he doesn't look to be running with a chip on his shoulder like i expected. I know Pitt has a good defense, but denver had a 14 pt lead and a perfect opportunity for Henry to make a statement, but 3ypc doesn't say much. If he gets a 1 year suspension is Denver obligated to him when he comes back? Surely not. And would anyone be interested at much more than the veteran’s minimum?
I thought he ran extremely hard against the Steelers. One of the tougher backs to bring down that the Steelers have faced in a while.
 
What has surprised me is Henry's performances since this story broke. Assuming at some point he will face suspension, the guy really needs to be making a case to be welcomed back after the suspension. Even if he is successful at dodging the suspension big performances on the field would go a long way towards having people forget about his ignorance, even if as he says its only second hand smoke. I realize he can't go 200/2 without help, but he doesn't look to be running with a chip on his shoulder like i expected. I know Pitt has a good defense, but denver had a 14 pt lead and a perfect opportunity for Henry to make a statement, but 3ypc doesn't say much. If he gets a 1 year suspension is Denver obligated to him when he comes back? Surely not. And would anyone be interested at much more than the veteran’s minimum?
He played against the chargers then had a bye then the steelers and now the packers......what did you expect ????He had 131 total yards vs the colts and that was the week after the story broke .He has detroit and the chiefs after this week so i would expect big weeks from him then.
 
He played against the chargers then had a bye then the steelers and now the packers......what did you expect ????He had 131 total yards vs the colts and that was the week after the story broke .He has detroit and the chiefs after this week so i would expect big weeks from him then.
I'd expect him to suck it up and practice with a bruised chest. I don't have him in any league, so I don't really care. I just figured if I were in his shoes and possibly facing a 1 year ban and maybe the end of my career I'd be giving that extra effort and never let anyone know I was hurting. I realize he could further hurt himself, but he could also be starting to make his case for somebody taking a shot at him next November. I'm not sure what job skills he has that can pay this well outside football, and the guy has kids to feed.
 
He played against the chargers then had a bye then the steelers and now the packers......what did you expect ????He had 131 total yards vs the colts and that was the week after the story broke .He has detroit and the chiefs after this week so i would expect big weeks from him then.
I'd expect him to suck it up and practice with a bruised chest. I don't have him in any league, so I don't really care. I just figured if I were in his shoes and possibly facing a 1 year ban and maybe the end of my career I'd be giving that extra effort and never let anyone know I was hurting. I realize he could further hurt himself, but he could also be starting to make his case for somebody taking a shot at him next November. I'm not sure what job skills he has that can pay this well outside football, and the guy has kids to feed.
I would say him playing this weekend with the injury is enough...players like burress who are hurt dont practice so they CAN play when it matters. As far as proving himself for his future he wont have one if he`s guilty and punished...only desperate teams would sign him. I think he`s just kinda playing this whole thing out to see what happens...he does`nt seem like the brightest bulb around.
 
He played against the chargers then had a bye then the steelers and now the packers......what did you expect ????He had 131 total yards vs the colts and that was the week after the story broke .

He has detroit and the chiefs after this week so i would expect big weeks from him then.
I'd expect him to suck it up and practice with a bruised chest. I don't have him in any league, so I don't really care. I just figured if I were in his shoes and possibly facing a 1 year ban and maybe the end of my career I'd be giving that extra effort and never let anyone know I was hurting. I realize he could further hurt himself, but he could also be starting to make his case for somebody taking a shot at him next November. I'm not sure what job skills he has that can pay this well outside football, and the guy has kids to feed.
I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about practice. We're talking about practice man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice.
 
He played against the chargers then had a bye then the steelers and now the packers......what did you expect ????He had 131 total yards vs the colts and that was the week after the story broke .

He has detroit and the chiefs after this week so i would expect big weeks from him then.
I'd expect him to suck it up and practice with a bruised chest. I don't have him in any league, so I don't really care. I just figured if I were in his shoes and possibly facing a 1 year ban and maybe the end of my career I'd be giving that extra effort and never let anyone know I was hurting. I realize he could further hurt himself, but he could also be starting to make his case for somebody taking a shot at him next November. I'm not sure what job skills he has that can pay this well outside football, and the guy has kids to feed.
I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about practice. We're talking about practice man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about practice.
:rolleyes:
 
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7272758

If Travis Henry's defense team has its way on a motion filed Wednesday, the NFL could suffer a rare court setback and might face possible legal sanctions.

An attorney representing the Broncos running back filed a motion in U.S. District Court stating the NFL violated a temporary restraining order. The order was to prevent the league from testing a second Henry urine sample after the first one came back positive for a "negligible amount" of marijuana.

Attorney Steve Zissou's motion asks that the case be returned to the Supreme Court of the State of New York from the federal court so the judge whose order Zissou says was violated can determine sanctions against the league.

"We are confident we will prevail," said Zissou when reached for comment after the motion was electronically filed in the Eastern District of New York on Wednesday.

Henry, 28, has rushed 549 yards on 119 carries for Denver. This is his first season with the Broncos. He signed a five-year deal in April with $12 million in bonuses after being released by the Tennessee Titans.

Because Henry was in phase two of the league's substance abuse program, a positive test would trigger at least a year's suspension.

Henry's case revolves around him seeking to have his specialist present when a "B" sample of urine was tested in order to confirm the "A" test result.

According to Wednesday's filing, Henry provided a sample Aug. 27, then was notified "on or about Sept. 4" that he had tested positive. Henry sought the restraining order to ensure his specialist was present for the second test, but according to the filing, that did not happen.

Zissou's motion states the case never belonged in the federal court and the violation of the temporary restraining order is further reason to have it sent back to the state court. The NFL requested the case be moved to federal court, contending it involves national labor laws because of an agreement between the league and the players union regarding the substance abuse program.

Until these legal issues are resolved, which could take three weeks or more, it appears Henry will continue to play for the Broncos, who are counting on him to lead their rushing attack.

Henry has said he will not talk about the case under the advice of his attorneys and the NFL. Last week, he said, "I know nothing about what's going on."
Does Travis Henry's attorney come to court in a red wool cap and speedo? :goodposting:
:unsure: I noticed that too.
 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et

Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.

According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.

Source: Denver Post

:unsure:

 
I hate to say it but I hope Henry is done soon even though he is on my team. I am hoping to ride Selvin to a fantasy championship......the guy looked phenominal the other night.

I would love to have Selvin going against Lions D this Sunday.

 
I hate to say it but I hope Henry is done soon even though he is on my team. I am hoping to ride Selvin to a fantasy championship......the guy looked phenominal the other night. I would love to have Selvin going against Lions D this Sunday.
Travis is going to string this out as long as he can. He'll drag this out for more weeks than he has children.
 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.Source: Denver Post :shrug:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
 
Anybody dropped Henry yet? In addition to the looming suspension he has done nothing since week 4.

At this point, I have other/ better RB options and am leaning towards cutting bait and adding a back up D for the stretch run...

 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.Source: Denver Post :tinfoilhat:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
Here is the entire clip from today's Denver Post:"Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games. A league spokesman said Tuesday that Henry's appeal is set for Nov. 5, but the date is tentative because the case is in the New York court system. "
 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.Source: Denver Post :shrug:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
Here is the entire clip from today's Denver Post:"Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games. A league spokesman said Tuesday that Henry's appeal is set for Nov. 5, but the date is tentative because the case is in the New York court system. "
I'm still lost. Why does an NFL appeal need to go through the courts? It is the NFL's ruling. To my understanding his drug case is in the NY court system which is different from his NFL suspension. Now I am even more confused.
 
This is from Mort's chat today:

Ike (denver): Hey Mort any news (or educated guess) on Travis Henry's future?

SportsNation Chris Mortensen: (12:18 PM ET ) Educated guess: He will be suspended by next Wednesday.

 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.Source: Denver Post :thumbup:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
Here is the entire clip from today's Denver Post:"Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games. A league spokesman said Tuesday that Henry's appeal is set for Nov. 5, but the date is tentative because the case is in the New York court system. "
I'm still lost. Why does an NFL appeal need to go through the courts? It is the NFL's ruling. To my understanding his drug case is in the NY court system which is different from his NFL suspension. Now I am even more confused.
Well according to the Denver Post, his appeal case is in the NY Court system.
 
I think the Denver Post has its facts messed up. I think Henry has two appeals going on right now. One with the NFL over the suspension and one in Federal court.

Below is part of an AOL story from Oct 4th

Henry was granted a temporary restraining order in Suffolk County (N.Y.) Supreme Court to prevent the league from using a urine specimen against him and to prevent the league from disclosing the test results, but an appellate court vacated the order, according to court papers filed in Brooklyn federal court.

The report on the newspaper's Web site said Henry claims the league violated its substance abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be present for testing of his urine sample, according to court papers.

The league wants the matter transferred to federal court because it involves interpretation of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, generally covered by federal labor laws.

So Henry Appealed the appellate court's ruling. Hence two appeals.

I might be wrong, but this is how I see it.

 
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.Source: Denver Post :thumbup:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
Here is the entire clip from today's Denver Post:"Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games. A league spokesman said Tuesday that Henry's appeal is set for Nov. 5, but the date is tentative because the case is in the New York court system. "
I'm still lost. Why does an NFL appeal need to go through the courts? It is the NFL's ruling. To my understanding his drug case is in the NY court system which is different from his NFL suspension. Now I am even more confused.
Well according to the Denver Post, his appeal case is in the NY Court system.
My guess is that since the appeal in court deals with excluding his B Sample from being tested by the NFL that the NFL can't suspend him until it gets permission from the court that is can test the B Sample to confirm his positive drug test. As a result, the court appeal is holding up the NFL's ability to suspend him. (although I thought I also read somewhere else a while ago that the NFL could suspend him even without the B Sample)
 
packersfan said:
This is from Mort's chat today:

Ike (denver): Hey Mort any news (or educated guess) on Travis Henry's future?

SportsNation Chris Mortensen: (12:18 PM ET ) Educated guess: He will be suspended by next Wednesday.
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southeastjerome said:
Max Power said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Travis Henry-RB- Broncos Oct. 31 - 9:04 am et

Coach Mike Shanahan said Tuesday that Travis Henry (ribs) will try to practice this week after sitting out Week 8.

According to the Denver Post, "Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games." His appeal is reportedly tentatively set for November 5. Selvin Young becomes an every-week fantasy option the moment Henry is suspended, so his owners should be patient.

Source: Denver Post

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Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
Here is the entire clip from today's Denver Post:"Henry is expected to learn about his pending NFL drug suspension after the next two games. A league spokesman said Tuesday that Henry's appeal is set for Nov. 5, but the date is tentative because the case is in the New York court system. "
I'm still lost. Why does an NFL appeal need to go through the courts? It is the NFL's ruling. To my understanding his drug case is in the NY court system which is different from his NFL suspension. Now I am even more confused.
Well according to the Denver Post, his appeal case is in the NY Court system.
My guess is that since the appeal in court deals with excluding his B Sample from being tested by the NFL that the NFL can't suspend him until it gets permission from the court that is can test the B Sample to confirm his positive drug test. As a result, the court appeal is holding up the NFL's ability to suspend him. (although I thought I also read somewhere else a while ago that the NFL could suspend him even without the B Sample)
You thought right.Second post on this very page.

 
Max Power said:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
The explanation is simple. The NFL cannot impose a suspension midweek, since doing so would disrupt a team's preparations for its next game.If (when) Henry is suspended, the Broncos must be notified the Monday prior to the first game of the suspension.Since the appeal itself is on a Monday (the 5th), it stands to reason that timely notification cannot be made until the following Monday, assuming the appeal is denied, and the ruling is not be made same-day.Someone can clean up the details, but that's my general understanding.
 
BTW, I've got the same question as someone earlier had -- how can the NFL be proceeding with the suspension when their grounds for issuing said suspension is still being decided by the courts?

How can the NFL suspend Henry when there's the chance that the courts could rule against them and toss out the sample/test?

Seems to me the whole point of a court injunction is to prevent this.

An injunction has been issued until the appeal is resolved, hasn't it?

 
Max Power said:
Where do they come up with this stuff? So he has an appeal hearing on Monday Nov 5th. Which is next Monday. Yet he is expected to hear about pending suspension after the next two games? Either this article clipping is a few days old and is just being posted as news for OCT 31 or the guys at the Denver Post cant read a calendar.
The explanation is simple. The NFL cannot impose a suspension midweek, since doing so would disrupt a team's preparations for its next game.If (when) Henry is suspended, the Broncos must be notified the Monday prior to the first game of the suspension.Since the appeal itself is on a Monday (the 5th), it stands to reason that timely notification cannot be made until the following Monday, assuming the appeal is denied, and the ruling is not be made same-day.Someone can clean up the details, but that's my general understanding.
Mort has been reporting for the last two weeks at least he expects the suspension to be handed down almost immediately after the appeal. He said today he thinks it will be next Wednesday. Given how most teams have Tuesdays off couldn't the suspension be announced either Tuesday or Wednesday without disrupting a team's preparations?
 
BTW, I've got the same question as someone earlier had -- how can the NFL be proceeding with the suspension when their grounds for issuing said suspension is still being decided by the courts?How can the NFL suspend Henry when there's the chance that the courts could rule against them and toss out the sample/test?Seems to me the whole point of a court injunction is to prevent this.An injunction has been issued until the appeal is resolved, hasn't it?
As already stated, the NFL can suspend Henry without the "B" sample.
 

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