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Trent Green Traded To Dolphins (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Glad to see the Dolphins got some use out of that jet.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Dolphins finally get Green
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Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 2 minutes ago
Chiefs quarterback Trent Green has finally got his wish. He's now a former Chiefs quarterback.
The Miami Dolphins have agreed to trade a fifth-round pick in the 2008 draft — which could become a fourth-rounder depending on how much action Green sees for Miami in 2007 — in exchange for the veteran quarterback, FOXSports.com has learned.
The deal is contingent on Green passing a physical. He is scheduled to fly to Miami Tuesday evening to take that physical.
The Dolphins could have ended the protracted negotiations long before Tuesday, but had held out in the belief that the Chiefs would eventually cut Green.
The long-discussed deal finally got done when Chiefs brass informed the Dolphins a trade had to get done by today or else they would have kept Green on their roster for the 2007 season.
Green played in just eight games for the Chiefs in 2006 due to injury. He completed 61.1 percent of his passes for 1,342 yards, but threw for just seven touchdowns and nine interceptions.
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Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
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Chiefs quarterback Trent Green has finally got his wish. He's now a former Chiefs quarterback.
The Miami Dolphins have agreed to trade a fifth-round pick in the 2008 draft — which could become a fourth-rounder depending on how much action Green sees for Miami in 2007 — in exchange for the veteran quarterback, FOXSports.com has learned.
The deal is contingent on Green passing a physical. He is scheduled to fly to Miami Tuesday evening to take that physical.
The Dolphins could have ended the protracted negotiations long before Tuesday, but had held out in the belief that the Chiefs would eventually cut Green.
The long-discussed deal finally got done when Chiefs brass informed the Dolphins a trade had to get done by today or else they would have kept Green on their roster for the 2007 season.
Green played in just eight games for the Chiefs in 2006 due to injury. He completed 61.1 percent of his passes for 1,342 yards, but threw for just seven touchdowns and nine interceptions.
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
finally, this nonsense is over.
lions327
Footballguy
Good question. Atlanta seems logical.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Own Green in 3 leagues...picked him up off waivers in the off season hoping this would happen...WOOHOO!!!
Do I expect big things from Trent? Of course not but i do expect him to start and at least give the Miami Dolphins some hope back there. Esily this will make Miami much closer to a .500 team than a 2-14 type team. Which is good because with the way Cameron likes to draft we want to be at least in the middle teens not #9 when we take the Tedd Ginns of the world.
The GreenChamber combo...death to opposing defenses
The GreenMartian combo...out of this world
The GreenGinn drink will be sold up in the clubhouse section of the Stadium as well.
The GreenBrown combo...sort of an eclectic art vibe to it.
I have no idea what any of that meant.
Do I expect big things from Trent? Of course not but i do expect him to start and at least give the Miami Dolphins some hope back there. Esily this will make Miami much closer to a .500 team than a 2-14 type team. Which is good because with the way Cameron likes to draft we want to be at least in the middle teens not #9 when we take the Tedd Ginns of the world.
The GreenChamber combo...death to opposing defenses
The GreenMartian combo...out of this world
The GreenGinn drink will be sold up in the clubhouse section of the Stadium as well.
The GreenBrown combo...sort of an eclectic art vibe to it.
I have no idea what any of that meant.
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Only thing to be concerned about is that the dolphins offensive line is porus at best against the pass rush, and Green needs time and space.
But he should start and will help them out. Not budging to the horrific demands of King Carl was smart (who demanded a second rounder for him).
But he should start and will help them out. Not budging to the horrific demands of King Carl was smart (who demanded a second rounder for him).
bostonfred
Footballguy
Weird. I just came here to post the exact same thing.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
Looks like King Carl won in this negotiation...the pick will surely be a 4th if Green starts the season under center.
I love the hardball tactics!
I love the hardball tactics!
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JayMan
Footballguy
Imagine The 'Fins negociating... 'Well, a 4th... now, that's tough... there are alot of good players you can draft with a 4th... all right, we got a deal'... and they mumbles to themselves 'glad we gave that pick away, had no clue what to do with it, like with the others'
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I am happy for Trent Green. He is an all around good guy in the NFL.
Other than that, this all means nothing to me.
Other than that, this all means nothing to me.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
WTF happened to Culpepper? Is he really not that healthy?
I just don't see 37 year old Trent Green as the Miami savior.
I just don't see 37 year old Trent Green as the Miami savior.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I guess, but I'd prefer him to play his last season or 2 with a contender. I just don't see Miami being that team.
Why, So he can back up Harrington again?
Jason Wood
Zoo York
A few thoughts...
ESPN News had Dan LeBetard on and he said Green's agent was assured that Culpepper would be tendered his release. LeBetard said the irony of that decision lies in the fact Culpepper is healthier today than he's been at any point as a Dolphin and barring a setback should be NFL ready for camp.
Oakland appears to be the immediate place of interest, although I suspect Culpepper will wait for a more attractive situation to open up. Once camp starts, there will unfortunatly be a team or two that loses its QB and would be willing to bring in Culpep in the hope of catching lightning in a bottle.
ESPN News had Dan LeBetard on and he said Green's agent was assured that Culpepper would be tendered his release. LeBetard said the irony of that decision lies in the fact Culpepper is healthier today than he's been at any point as a Dolphin and barring a setback should be NFL ready for camp.
Oakland appears to be the immediate place of interest, although I suspect Culpepper will wait for a more attractive situation to open up. Once camp starts, there will unfortunatly be a team or two that loses its QB and would be willing to bring in Culpep in the hope of catching lightning in a bottle.
redman
Footballguy
Nah, they already have enough dogs on that roster.
-OZ-
Footballguy
[dreaming]Detroit[/dreaming]
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I think it's Culpepper dreaming with Cal and Roy to toss the rock to.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Every team has an aging QB. Humans age, its a fact of life.NE doesn't have a backup. Culp and Moss together again on the sideline. Of course, Vince Young has the curse this year.
SSOG
Moderator
Daunte Culpepper is only 30. I suppose that technically he IS aging, in the same way that each and every one of us are aging from the day we are born, but Culpepper is 6 months older than Tom Brady, 3 months older than Marc Bulger, 2 months younger than Donovan McNabb, 6 months younger than Chad Pennington, 9 months younger than Peyton Manning, a year and a half younger than Matt Hasselbeck, and a full two years younger than Jake Delhomme. Just something to consider before writing Culpepper off as "over the hill".
lions327
Footballguy
Pun intended?Nah, they already have enough dogs on that roster.
Todem
Footballguy
Another moronic move by a moronic franchise.
I am about ready to throw in the towel. Been a Fins fan my whole life. Getting a 37 year old QB for what will become a 4th round pick is plain stupid.
Green will be killed behind that shabby line. John Beck will be in there by mid season.
Culpepper will catch on somehwere else and go back to the pro bowl and we will all want Cameron's and Mueller's heads. Bad bad move.
You already paid C.Pep...keep him and let Beck wait in the wings. I mean come on.
I am about ready to throw in the towel. Been a Fins fan my whole life. Getting a 37 year old QB for what will become a 4th round pick is plain stupid.
Green will be killed behind that shabby line. John Beck will be in there by mid season.
Culpepper will catch on somehwere else and go back to the pro bowl and we will all want Cameron's and Mueller's heads. Bad bad move.
You already paid C.Pep...keep him and let Beck wait in the wings. I mean come on.
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Here is to hoping that the owners in my league bump all MIA skill position players up in their rankings so that I get more of the guys that I want.
Guzalot
Footballguy
Count me in. He'll start for somebody this season or next, you can bank on it. How successful he will be is debatable, but he will have the opportunity.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Cpep no longer has the talent to be a starting QB in the NFL.
I'm a believer. He'll start again.
SammyJankis
Footballguy
Take a look around the NFL right now. Josh McCown is a starter. Tavaris Jackson is a starter. Will Culpepper ever start again? I think that's the way to bet.Now will he ever be a long term starter? A guy that a team is going to build around as opposed to using as a stop gap? That one's a bit murkier.I'm a believer. He'll start again.
SSOG
Moderator
Where did his talent go, if you don't mind my asking? Did he forget to pack it when he left Minnesota? Is it sitting in a storage unit in Miami? Did he lose it in a game of blackjack, and now there's a 46 year old, balding, overweight man in Boca Raton who can throw a perfect spiral 60 yards?Daunte Culpepper was the #1 fantasy QB in 4 of his first 5 seasons as a starter (and if you prorate his numbers in the fifth season, he would have finished #2, behind only Kurt Warner in his 4800, 36 TD season). That is insane. You can credit it all to Randy Moss, but consider what happened in 2004- Moss got injured and was only targeted 86 times all season... and Daunte Culpepper still completed 69.2% of his passes at 8.6 yards per attempt for 36 TDs and 11 INTs (one of the greatest QB seasons in NFL history). He was literally 5 completed passes away from becoming the first QB *IN NFL HISTORY* to attempt 500 passes and complete 70%. If you think that's all the result of a gimpy, ineffective WR (who, by the way, wasn't even the greatest WR in NFL history), then you're wrong. Daunte Culpepper was CRAZY talented. You now claim that all of that talent is magically gone, so I ask again... where did it go?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Agree on Culpepper. He's far from done. I suspect someone near the playoff picture w/ a questionable starter will snatch him up in a hurry (Atlanta comes to mind). Minnesota could be a dark horse as well.
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That is exactly what I was thinking.Nice job Carl Peterson. It took balls for him to hatch his plan and face the flaming of the media for the last month while trying to pull this deal off. Many KC fans would have been happy just to let Green go without compensation. Many would have been happy with a sixth or a fifth but Peterson is smart enough to know that a sixth or a fifth is night and day different than a fourth. You have to be pretty lucky to have something be good after the fourth. Anybody have any stats to show the % of various draft rounds and how long they were in the league?
So now that Culpepper is healthy and dropped maybe KC can pick him up this year and trade him back to MIA for another fourth rounder next year or better.
So now that Culpepper is healthy and dropped maybe KC can pick him up this year and trade him back to MIA for another fourth rounder next year or better.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
But if he truly still is the QB of old, then why is Miami in such a hurry to ship him off after giving up so much to acquire him in the first place? Now matter how inept of a front office we think they are...they are not blind. If Culpepper still possessed the tools, then they would be keeping him. I'm sorry, but this doesn't pass the sniff test. The guy must be broken down physically, he wasn't grasping the system, or seeing eye-to-eye with the coaches. Something else negative was going on behind the scenes.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Watch Chief games on NL Replay from last year. Huard was their best QB. He did very well.
bcr8f
Footballguy
If Culpepper re-injures his knee in practice, the Dolphins would potentially be on the hook for his $5.5 million base salary for 2007.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
As long as he's really recovered from his injury, of course he will. He's a 30-year old QB with multiple Pro Bowls under his belt, all the physical tools in the world and a high completion percentage. Must we start listing the journeymen who have been starters for multiple teams? Culpepper is a lock to start again IF he's healthy.
Others have already taken you to task on this statement, but I will chime in...where did his talent go?
1) You presume Miami knows what it's doing; this wouldn't be the first time an NFL franchise let someone go it shouldn't have. 2) There is history here that likely borders on toxic; we know Culpepper wasn't ready to return but did so. With a new regime in place, there is likely a desire for a "clean break."3) Cam Cameron and Trent Green have history. 4) Trent Green wanted assurances that Culpepper wouldn't remain5) Culpepper is a WCO QB, Cameron's system is not6) Many worry that Culpepper's rehab was hindered by his comfort from a new contract combined with being in his home state. Familiarty breeds contempt7) Culpepper is a big guy and obviously can't get close to game shape until his knee is OK8) The Dolphins are in a state of wanting to win now
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
I'll slightly differ from the poster who said he no longer has the talent to be a starter, but I will say he never had the talent many give him credit for. He suceeded on a team with superior talent. He suceeded when his offensive line was dominant and gave him an incredible amount of time to find open receivers. He suceeded when he had top notch receivers (primarily Moss). He suceeded when his knees were healthy and he could escape for positive yards when he couldn't find an open receiver. And he suceeded when he had a good to great running game.He would need all of these stars to align to be successful as well. If his knees don't get back to allow him to be 80% of the mobile threat he was before, he has no chance. He never had the talent to read a defense. He never had the talent to anticipate receivers. He's a turnover machine. Without the absolutely perfect situation, there's no NFL upside to him.
redman
Footballguy
His talent went to New England, by way of Oakland. I personally don't think he was ever that talented overall, merely talented enough to exploit Moss' unique talents which worked for a while in Minnesota. When it came time to be a QB without Moss, however, I saw no sign he could really read defenses or run a "real" offense.
erymer
Footballguy
Atlanta / Oakland. I think either spot would be a good fit. Atl needs some insurance for Vick. I'm sure Big Al wouldnn't mind having him, but I hear Josh McCown is looking good. Glad I nabbed Trent Green off the waiver wire a few weeks ago.
Routilla
Footballguy
Green was pretty bad last year after the concussion. Huard/Croyle would both be better IMO. Bump up LJ if that's possible. LOL.
