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Trent Richardson owners: Are you starting him this week @ SF? (1 Viewer)

TALL hobbit said:
Seems a bit optimistic to me. Aren't those close to the numbers he was averaging in Cle -- where he knew the plays, players, and got a full load of carries? This week he's going to a new team, against a good defense, playing on the road across the country -- and he's never played with any of these team mates before.

I'd guess that the Colts play him as little as possible. Otherwise, what's the sense of taking a guy who's just had the rug pulled out from under him and putting him in an situation where he's likely to underperform right off the bat? I have him on a team - so I'd love for him to go out and have a huge day - but from a practical perspective, I don't think they'll put too much on his plate. Why use him heavily on the road against a tough team when he doesn't have the time to prep - when in a week he could actually be involved with the team and get to start at home.
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Perhaps you missed this:

Coach Chuck Pagano said that newly acquired Trent Richardson will play in Sunday's game at San Francisco.

When asked how much Richardson will play in Week 3, Pagano said, "As much as he can handle." The Colts didn't give up a first-round pick to let Richardson idle behind Ahmad Bradshaw. The playbook at the running back position is among the easiest to pick up, meaning T-Rich could see the majority of early-down work right away. He does have a brutal matchup, but he's still on the flex radar. "This guy is a rolling ball of butcher knives," Pagano said of Richardson. "He fits our scheme to a T."
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And this...

ESPN's Bob Holtzman reported on NFL Insiders Trent Richardson "expects to play and play a lot" in Week 3 at San Francisco.
Richardson told Holtzman the Colts' offense is not entirely dissimilar from Browns coach Rob Chudzinski's, which he's been learning the past seven months. We're still skeptical Richardson will play even close to a full complement of snaps in a new system behind new blockers after two practices as a Colt. His ceiling is probably around 16 carries in a tough matchup at Candlestick.
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Benching him for Joique Bell and Bernard Pierce in two leagues this week.

Starting him in a 20-teamer because I have no better options.

 
This is the wrong week to be facing SF. Willis and Bowman are going to go all Forest "Charles Jefferson" Whitaker on whoever is lined up across from them.

 
need2know said:
Would you guys play b. Pierce over trich? I can't decide
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I'm in the same pickle. I'd say if Rice isn't playing you probably have to go with Pierce at home vs. HOU. I think you can expect numbers from Pierce at least equal to what he did last week, if not slightly higher. If Rice plays though that could water things down, though I can't imagine Rice getting a whole lot of work. If they have as much faith in Pierce as they say you'd think they wouldn't risk Rice's recovery this early in the season.

TRich is so new to Indy...OTOH he's supposedly going to get a lot of work, play in a system not too different from CLE's, and SF so far has been far from stout against the run, though of course we have a limited sample size. But even GB got a TD on the ground vs. SF in SF.

Here're some more SF points allowed vs. RB stats: http://www.fftoday.com/stats/fantasystats.php?o=2&TeamID=9027&Season=2013&PosID=20&Side=Allowed&LeagueID=1

 
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Remember how well Marshawn Lynch did despite missing their starting LT....do not over think this. Start TRich against SFO. Without Dwayne Allen, Indy does not have many options to score TDs when it gets in red zone. Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton are not big targets that are easy to target in red zone. Expect a lot of TRich

 
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Sweetness_34 said:
Remember how well Marshawn Lynch did despite missing their starting LT....do not over think this. Start TRich against SFO. Without Dwayne Allen, Indy does not have many options to score TDs when it gets in red zone. Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton are not big targets that are easy to target in red zone. Expect a lot of TRich
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Lynch did that in Seattle though. And at this point Bradshaw's supposed to be still getting a decent number of carries...AB's work isn't supposed to fade to minimal levels for a week or two more if experts are to be believed.

 
just_want_2_win said:
Sweetness_34 said:
Remember how well Marshawn Lynch did despite missing their starting LT....do not over think this. Start TRich against SFO. Without Dwayne Allen, Indy does not have many options to score TDs when it gets in red zone. Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton are not big targets that are easy to target in red zone. Expect a lot of TRich
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Lynch did that in Seattle though. And at this point Bradshaw's supposed to be still getting a decent number of carries...AB's work isn't supposed to fade to minimal levels for a week or two more if experts are to be believed.
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What experts?????

 
I'm guessing damn near every TRich owner does not has the luxury if not starting him. This will likely be a poor game for him though.

 
My RB's are Forte, TRich, Matthews, Bradshaw, and Pierce. Start 2 RB, no flex. I'll be riding Forte and Pierce this week assuming Rice is out. If Rice plays, I'll likely go with Richardson. Bradshaw will probably be off my team soon.

 
I can't see him doing much this Sunday. I am assuming that he needs more than a day or two to learn the protections. They aren't going to risk getting Luck killed for one week of production from Trent.

 
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I'm sitting Richardson for Gordon for my flex spot. Richardson will be back starting next week. I am envisioning him to be beastly the rest of the year.

 
Ahmad Bradshaw 4.6 yards per carry in his career

Trent Richardson 3.5 yards per carry in his career

Bring in what ever other variables that you want, Bradshaw can play when healthy.

Still, I understand that the Colts didn't give up a first round pick to get a guy that they don't believe in, but I still see Bradshaw getting touches in five weeks, nevemind this week.

Short week for Richardson to get a feel for playbook, against a good defense.

I'd have Richardson at about the 25-30 range at RB for this week.

Bradshaw in the same range -probably a spot or two higher.

Both are weak flex plays IMO.

 
If he were just on a new team, or just facing SF on the road when they're going to be super-pissed, I might roll with him. But put the two together and I'm sitting him for Bernard.

 
I think TRich and Bradshaw split touches 50-50 this week with TRich getting his almost entirely on first and second down running plays. I don't expect him to put up great numbers when San Fran is going to be able to predict when they're handing him the ball, but he'll get something. I'd start another RB this week if you have a viable one.

 
I am 90% leaning towards starting Richardson. For most teams in this hobby, Richardson is your best player.

I know it'll be a tiny practice regimen. But put your head in Richardson's mindset: the Browns traded away a player with remarkable pedigree. Richardson knows that. While people discuss the "tough" and "angry" 49ers defense, they seldom consider that Richardson is going to run hard Sunday.

Let's be conservative and theorize that Trent gets less than 10 touches. If four of those touches are goalline, I believe that Richardson will score at least once. The 49ers front seven was gashed by Marshawn Lynch last week, and Indy has equal or more talented offensive personell at QB and WR than Seattle. Start Richardson in a #2 or flex spot and be happy.

 
jdoggydogg said:
I am 90% leaning towards starting Richardson. For most teams in this hobby, Richardson is your best player.

I know it'll be a tiny practice regimen. But put your head in Richardson's mindset: the Browns traded away a player with remarkable pedigree. Richardson knows that. While people discuss the "tough" and "angry" 49ers defense, they seldom consider that Richardson is going to run hard Sunday.

Let's be conservative and theorize that Trent gets less than 10 touches. If four of those touches are goalline, I believe that Richardson will score at least once. The 49ers front seven was gashed by Marshawn Lynch last week, and Indy has equal or more talented offensive personell at QB and WR than Seattle. Start Richardson in a #2 or flex spot and be happy.
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Not about his mindset - it's about knowing the playbook and assignements

 
Right now I have him on the bench for Lamar Miller. Not sure this is the right move but I am trying to err on the side of caution. Although San Fran appears to have some cracks vs. the run.

 
My only other decent option is pierce. Hoping rice sits and makes the decision easy. If rice plays, I will start trich. But I don't think he puts up very good numbers. Looking forward to next weeks game against jax ;)

 
IND - RB Trent Richardson to get a lot of work Sunday

Source: ProFootballTalk.com

Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano said RB Trent Richardson will get as much as he can handle in the team’s Week 3 game. “We did not bring him in here to be the water boy on Sunday,” he said. “He’ll be ready to roll.”

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Fantasy owners should be as bold as Colts' GM Ryan Grigson here. Getting up to speed at the RB position is an easier transition for players. Richardson has a chip on his shoulder and will be used to hammer the 49ers' defense. Start him with confidence as a RB1 and sit back to watch the fireworks.
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Clipped from Joe's daily email.

This goes contrary to just about 90% of the posts in here. Does anyone in here have as much confidence?

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
IND - RB Trent Richardson to get a lot of work Sunday

Source: ProFootballTalk.com

Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano said RB Trent Richardson will get as much as he can handle in the teams Week 3 game. We did not bring him in here to be the water boy on Sunday, he said. Hell be ready to roll.

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Fantasy owners should be as bold as Colts' GM Ryan Grigson here. Getting up to speed at the RB position is an easier transition for players. Richardson has a chip on his shoulder and will be used to hammer the 49ers' defense. Start him with confidence as a RB1 and sit back to watch the fireworks.
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Clipped from Joe's daily email.

This goes contrary to just about 90% of the posts in here. Does anyone in here have as much confidence?
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Don't have the same confidence but its largely due to the opponent. If he was still with Cleveland and they were playing SF I'd have about as much confidence as I do with this start. The good thing is he'll get more comfortable over time, learn the play book, the line and have a better upside with Indy.
 
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In one league I have him in, I'm benching him for the combo of Spiller, Moreno, and DeAngelo Williams.

In the other 2 leagues I own him in, I'm rolling with him so I don't have much better options.

Think he could be okay, but changing teams and going against the 49ers defense is not an easy task. Especially a pissed off 49ers defense.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Let's be conservative and theorize that Trent gets less than 10 touches. If four of those touches are goalline, I believe that Richardson will score at least once. The 49ers front seven was gashed by Marshawn Lynch last week, and Indy has equal or more talented offensive personell at QB and WR than Seattle. Start Richardson in a #2 or flex spot and be happy.
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My issue here is that while I agree with the bold, I'd argue that Seattle's line is much better than Indy's, and that matters more than who's behind center. Indy's upgraded a lot, but let's not forget this is the same team that "sucked for Luck" not too long ago.

Raiderfan32904 said:
IND - RB Trent Richardson to get a lot of work Sunday

Source: ProFootballTalk.com

Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano said RB Trent Richardson will get as much as he can handle in the team’s Week 3 game. “We did not bring him in here to be the water boy on Sunday,” he said. “He’ll be ready to roll.”

[ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ FOOTBALLGUYS VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]

Fantasy owners should be as bold as Colts' GM Ryan Grigson here. Getting up to speed at the RB position is an easier transition for players. Richardson has a chip on his shoulder and will be used to hammer the 49ers' defense. Start him with confidence as a RB1 and sit back to watch the fireworks.
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Clipped from Joe's daily email.

This goes contrary to just about 90% of the posts in here. Does anyone in here have as much confidence?
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I'm playing devil's advocate here - what benefit would Pagano have in saying he'll only play a little? San Fran is game planning as we speak. The Colt's O is a lot more difficult to plan for with T-Rich playing than without him. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but I am saying that from Pagano's standpoint, he has nothing to lose by saying they'll play T-Rich "A lot." It's whether or not that will be a reality, i.e. if he'll learn the playbook well enough to hit his holes and not get Luck killed in protection by the time they play.

 
Fat Nick said:
jdoggydogg said:
Let's be conservative and theorize that Trent gets less than 10 touches. If four of those touches are goalline, I believe that Richardson will score at least once. The 49ers front seven was gashed by Marshawn Lynch last week, and Indy has equal or more talented offensive personell at QB and WR than Seattle. Start Richardson in a #2 or flex spot and be happy.
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My issue here is that while I agree with the bold, I'd argue that Seattle's line is much better than Indy's, and that matters more than who's behind center. Indy's upgraded a lot, but let's not forget this is the same team that "sucked for Luck" not too long ago.

Raiderfan32904 said:
IND - RB Trent Richardson to get a lot of work Sunday

Source: ProFootballTalk.com

Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano said RB Trent Richardson will get as much as he can handle in the team’s Week 3 game. “We did not bring him in here to be the water boy on Sunday,” he said. “He’ll be ready to roll.”

[ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ FOOTBALLGUYS VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]

Fantasy owners should be as bold as Colts' GM Ryan Grigson here. Getting up to speed at the RB position is an easier transition for players. Richardson has a chip on his shoulder and will be used to hammer the 49ers' defense. Start him with confidence as a RB1 and sit back to watch the fireworks.
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Clipped from Joe's daily email.

This goes contrary to just about 90% of the posts in here. Does anyone in here have as much confidence?
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I'm playing devil's advocate here - what benefit would Pagano have in saying he'll only play a little? San Fran is game planning as we speak. The Colt's O is a lot more difficult to plan for with T-Rich playing than without him. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but I am saying that from Pagano's standpoint, he has nothing to lose by saying they'll play T-Rich "A lot." It's whether or not that will be a reality, i.e. if he'll learn the playbook well enough to hit his holes and not get Luck killed in protection by the time they play.
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:goodposting:

 
Something along the lines of

12 carries 45 yards and a touch

(i think he gets pretty much all the goal line work)

3 catches 18 yards

 
Added Felix Jones as an emergency play...going to read as much as I can from Indy, if TRich gets 50% or more of the snaps I likely role with him and hoe for a TD. Vereen getting hurt really thinned my RB's.

 
For those in this thread trying to decide between Pierce and TRich this week, Roto ranks TRich at 15th and Pierce at 21st.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/44431/57/week-3-rankings?pg=2

And here's the write-up on TRich:

By now you know that Jim Irsay wasn’t bluffing. He made one of the most shocking trades in years on Wednesday, parking Trent Richardson in Colts blue for the price of a 2014 first-rounder. Although the move should pay fantasy dividends for T-Rich in the long run — he’s departed Cleveland’s sinking ship for one of the league’s most talented offenses — Sunday figures to be a rough christening against a 49ers defense allowing just 3.6 yards per carry (or 0.1 more than T-Rich’s career average). The volume Richardson relies on for fantasy value might not be there as learns a new playbook and squares off with one of the league’s most talented Run Ds. This will almost certainly be his lowest rank of the season. …
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squistion said:
SproutDaddy said:
This is a silly thread.
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Fine. If you really think that, then please quit cluttering up this thread with your inane observations that tell us nothing outside of the fact that you find it silly.
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I'm not cluttering up the thread. It's my opinion, and I'm expressing it. They didn't trade for the guy to not give him touches. It's said by many FBGs that RB is the position with the easiest learning curve. Why would that change now. Obviously there is a short list of people to start before him, but the list is small. I'm not starting Pierre Thomas or Snelling or Mendenhall over him. While I don't expect him to get as many touches as the weeks to come, you can't justify him not getting significant touches. I'm not sitting him, and even thinking about it is foolish unless you are in dynasty with a stable of RBs.
 
I have no clue who to sit between foster alf spiller and trich. Right now I have spiller in over trich but, I change my mind about that every ten minutes.

 
bmsarvis said:
I have no clue who to sit between foster alf spiller and trich. Right now I have spiller in over trich but, I change my mind about that every ten minutes.
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:violin:

Considering that you're apparently playing in an 6-team league with a bunch of rhesus monkeys, I wouldn't be too worried.

Seriously, how do you have four first-round RBs on the same roster?

 
zftcg said:
bmsarvis said:
I have no clue who to sit between foster alf spiller and trich. Right now I have spiller in over trich but, I change my mind about that every ten minutes.
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:violin:

Considering that you're apparently playing in an 6-team league with a bunch of rhesus monkeys, I wouldn't be too worried.

Seriously, how do you have four first-round RBs on the same roster?
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It has to be dynasty. On one of my dynasty teams I have Richardson, McCoy, Sproles, and RBush. I can start 3-4Rbs.
 
zftcg said:
bmsarvis said:
I have no clue who to sit between foster alf spiller and trich. Right now I have spiller in over trich but, I change my mind about that every ten minutes.
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:violin:

Considering that you're apparently playing in an 6-team league with a bunch of rhesus monkeys, I wouldn't be too worried.

Seriously, how do you have four first-round RBs on the same roster?
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I'd imagine a keeper league of some sorts..

 
just_want_2_win said:
For those in this thread trying to decide between Pierce and TRich this week, Roto ranks TRich at 15th and Pierce at 21st.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/44431/57/week-3-rankings?pg=2

And here's the write-up on TRich:

By now you know that Jim Irsay wasn’t bluffing. He made one of the most shocking trades in years on Wednesday, parking Trent Richardson in Colts blue for the price of a 2014 first-rounder. Although the move should pay fantasy dividends for T-Rich in the long run — he’s departed Cleveland’s sinking ship for one of the league’s most talented offenses — Sunday figures to be a rough christening against a 49ers defense allowing just 3.6 yards per carry (or 0.1 more than T-Rich’s career average). The volume Richardson relies on for fantasy value might not be there as learns a new playbook and squares off with one of the league’s most talented Run Ds. This will almost certainly be his lowest rank of the season. …
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Honestly curious here - am I the only one that flat out doesn't trust Rotoworld's rankings anymore?

Silva's matchups column is still excellent, and I enjoy Gresham's stuff and Levitan's stuff for the most part. A lot of the blurbs though just spew their same rhetoric over and over and over. Heck Silva's arguing Hartline is a WR5 in his latest matchups column - feels way off to me.

Regardless, Wesseling's rankings and waiver wire column was arguably the best in the business... but it doesn't exist anymore. I just can't bring myself to trust the replacement of such inferior quality.

 
I have him in 2 leagues and as soon as I heard the news I benched him in both. Today I went ahead and put him back in both leagues, I like what I am hearing coming out of Indy. Im more confused on why Dodd and Bloom differ so much in their projections.

 
It sure seems that a lot of us have Pierce. I'm agonizing over this. I'd hate to bench my first round pick and I think Indy is gonna want to feature their new toy. Plus, it sure seems SF isn't the same rush D they used to be.

And don't give that "they're gonna be p!$$ed off" Indy is a professional football team last I checked.

Furthermore, Texans are pretty good.

 
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zftcg said:
bmsarvis said:
I have no clue who to sit between foster alf spiller and trich. Right now I have spiller in over trich but, I change my mind about that every ten minutes.
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:violin:

Considering that you're apparently playing in an 6-team league with a bunch of rhesus monkeys, I wouldn't be too worried.

Seriously, how do you have four first-round RBs on the same roster?
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ten team idp dynasty foster and alf were ww adds before they took a single snap. Traded for the 1.1 when trich declared. Traded for spiller after his second dissapointing season. I also have lacy if it makes you feel any better. Actually its a very competitive league bunch of local guys. 53man rosters so theres room for speculative adds and holdin high upside guys.

However ,I'm really leaning towards sitting spiller and starting trich. In this offense and indys d he may be a virtual lock to lead rbs in td the rest of the year. N im sure hes pretty p****d about bein traded like that. He should be playing with a big chip on his shoulder startin this week.

 
I don't think Indianapolis wants to come away Sunday with a 1-2 record with Denver and Seattle coming up shortly. They travel to Houston coming out of the Week 8 bye and they just can't lose all 3 to SF, Sea, Den, or even 4 with a road game in SD as well. I don't think they ease Richardson in with as much at stake.

 
Yeah this dec between trich and pierce is easily the toughest so far this season. I think it's a good problem to have though. I could see both backs playing well. Neither matchup is easy though. It would be a whole lot quicker decision if one of these guys was playing a softer def

 
need2know said:
Yeah this dec between trich and pierce is easily the toughest so far this season. I think it's a good problem to have though. I could see both backs playing well. Neither matchup is easy though. It would be a whole lot quicker decision if one of these guys was playing a softer def
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I agree...Pierce with Rice out or Joique Bell with Bush out would have been tough decisions even if TRich was still in Cleveland AFAIC.

 
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