Triathlon Leg 1 Posted (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

nice comeback Construx. My team had a terrible showing this week.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

nice comeback Construx. My team had a terrible showing this week.

Thanks. SJax and Betts went crazy for me this week. Damn lucky I got Betts as an backup to Portis instead of Duckett. IIRC, I outbid a message board member to get him. Sorry to whomever that was.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

61-32 Staff as it stands now.

I was thinking more season points scored by each team. Might be easier for me to ask Dodds to generate a quick report. I think he can do that.

Totals for Leg Oneuckboy - 2560.5Team Legacy - 2532.5Shawn Culcasi - 2523.3Chase Stuart - 2279.3David Shick! - 2275.4BassNBrew - 2262.3Fullback Fro - 2240.2LHUCKS - 2142Mark Wimer - 2107.2William Grant - 2067.3Mike Anderson - 1991.3Abrecher - 1948.13 close teams, a huge break to 4 close teams, then a smattering for the last 5. Just goes to show though in Survivor that, although the cream of overall talent tends to rise (2nd and 3rd OA took 1st and 2nd), all it takes is a bad week or 2 to go out (Shick! and myself finish top 5 but went out Weeks 2 and 4).Anyway, I'm planning on (probably starting first playoff weekend) analyzing how this went (for both my/the board benefit and better evaluation for next year's Dodd's predictions) by looking for several key factors:1) depth versus quality2) what flex was used, especially based on number of picks/round selected)3) over/undervalued picks, likely broken down by sets of rounds (1-4, 5-10, 11-18, 19-22 probably)4) others as suggested in this threadHope to go through about 1 team per day and finish overall by Conference Champ weekend. Thanks to FBGs for the opportunity to participate this year, and hope to have another chance in the future (REMATCH!!!).Oh, and congrats staff and thanks to CBoy for taking out the sweep.

Yeah...congrats to the staff. Glad to stop the sweep, but it's like setting a record as your team loses: not very satisfying.

 

[Perry Van Hook]

Congrats to Construx Boy for winning Leg 2 (Auction League), which was the only phase of the competition that we (MB) won, although I do agree that it was not satisfying.

And congratulations to the staff for besting us, although it was not the bloodbath some were congratulating themselves on or suggesting earlier. Two Message Board contestants finished in the top half of each contest and at least one MB player was first or second in each leg of the contest.

 

[BassNBrew]

Congrats C-Boy on the come from behing victory.

Kudos to the staff...you're now 1-2 all time v. the messageboard.

 

[LHUCKS]

Kudos to the staff...you're now 1-2 all time v. the messageboard.

 

[BassNBrew]

Here are the final results for all three legs of the contest:Triathlon Leg 1 Final Standings:Staff = 19, Message Board = 121st - Shawn Culcasi (S) - 173.5 + 188.0 + 154.7 + 170.5 = 686.7 (10 points)2nd - Team Legacy (MB) - 149.0 + 173.0 + 134.5 + 169.3 = 625.8 (8 points)3rd - Chase Stuart (S) - 170.0 + 195.3 + 142.9 + 108.2 = 616.4 (6 points)4th - LHUCKS (MB) - 114.0 + 145.5 + 133.7 + 125.6 = 518.8 (4 points)5th - William Grant (S) - Booted Off Week 12 (2 points)6th - Mike Anderson (S) - Booted Off Week 10 (1 point)Triathlon Leg 2 Final Standings:Message Board = 17, Staff = 141st - Construx Boy (MB) - (111 wins, 64 losses, 1 tie) (10 points)2nd - Chris Smith (S) - (107 wins, 69 losses) (8 points)3rd - Capt Hook (MB) - (106 wins, 70 losses) (6 points)4th - Aaron Rudnicki (S) - (105 wins, 71 losses) (4 points)5th - Jeff Pasquino (S) - (95 wins, 82 losses) (2 points)6th - radballs (MB) - (93 wins, 82 losses, 1 tie) (1 point)Triathlon Leg 3 Final Standings:Staff = 22, Message Board = 9 Andy Hicks (S) - 1993.8 (10 points) Diesel7982 (MB) - 1946.8 (8 points) Keith Overton (S) - 1910.6 (6 points) Bruce Henderson (S) - 1890.5 (4 points) Sigmund Bloom (S) - 1870.6 (2 points) jdoggydogg (MB) - 1857.3 (1 point) Final Standings all three legs: Staff = 55, Message Board = 38

Note that the Staff victory will always have an asterick by it as the deciding factor was the FFTOC format which we all agree is a sucky format.

 

[EBF]

Finished out of the money in Leg 2 by about one game. Shucks. If only Kevin Jones had stayed healthy.

 

[LHUCKS]

Finished out of the money in Leg 2 by about one game. Shucks. If only Kevin Jones had stayed healthy.

Try losing Portis in a serpentine draft. Luckily I was the messageboard MJD pimp and landed him late to make up for Portis' absence.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

nice comeback Construx. My team had a terrible showing this week.

Thanks. SJax and Betts went crazy for me this week. Damn lucky I got Betts as an backup to Portis instead of Duckett. IIRC, I outbid a message board member to get him. Sorry to whomever that was.

I don't think any of us really wanted him. We just wanted to bid him up for you since you had already spent a lot on Portis. Turned out being a mistake that we let you get him.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

nice comeback Construx. My team had a terrible showing this week.

Thanks. SJax and Betts went crazy for me this week. Damn lucky I got Betts as an backup to Portis instead of Duckett. IIRC, I outbid a message board member to get him. Sorry to whomever that was.

I don't think any of us really wanted him. We just wanted to bid him up for you since you had already spent a lot on Portis. Turned out being a mistake that we let you get him.

LOL, maybe that's what happened. But I think I remember that I wasn't paying attention and hadn't been bidding on him and then I jumped in at the last second and won it over another MB member. Oh well, worked out in the end.

 

[Cowboys#1]

how much did your mvp s-jax cost in relation to lt, lj, sa??

 

[AB in DC]

1) depth versus quality2) what flex was used, especially based on number of picks/round selected)3) over/undervalued picks, likely broken down by sets of rounds (1-4, 5-10, 11-18, 19-22 probably)4) others as suggested in this thread

Looking back on my draft, I think all four of these are outweighed by simply picking good players vs. bad players. In my case, the latter.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

how much did your mvp s-jax cost in relation to lt, lj, sa??

SJax was 57, Alexander was 58, LJ was 67 and LT was 70. Tiki was 58.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

how much did your mvp s-jax cost in relation to lt, lj, sa??

SJax was 57, Alexander was 58, LJ was 67 and LT was 70. Tiki was 58.

I got some great values at RB in Gore, Westbrook, and Marion Barber. Brees was huge for me at QB, but I didn't get any breakout WRs and my TEs sucked.

 

[David Dodds]

how much did your mvp s-jax cost in relation to lt, lj, sa??

SJax was 57, Alexander was 58, LJ was 67 and LT was 70. Tiki was 58.

At the time, my Alexander bid looked studly. But it certainly did not work out that way for me.Congrats ConstruxBoy on the impressive comeback to win leg 2. The Message Board had a great week 16 and made up a lot of ground in legs 1 and 2.

 

[Chris Smith]

The question is whether we can catch Chris Smith

Congrats. Great comeback (and a heck of a time for my team to suck wind )

 

[radballs]

It's Ovah. The only question left is will the staff sweep all three legs.

Sweeping the leg(s) didn't bring up any Ralph Macchio visuals doing the stork in "The Karate Kid" for anyone else?Congrats to the staff for the overall victory, but it's good to see that we MBers took Leg 2. The competition was a lot of fun and thanks again for the invite.

 

[cracKer]

I win

I thought that I had a chance to last in this thing from the start, but I didn't expect my team to score so well down the stretch. I think I won 5-6 of the last 8 weeks outright. I initially wrote that I'd need either Tatum Bell or Dominic Rhodes to perform as #2 backs for me to be competitive, but it turned out that Steven Jackson and a solid foursome at receiver (along with Cooley and Gates at TE) did the trick. It's good to see that you CAN win a start-3 RB PPR league without a stable of horses.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

The question is whether we can catch Chris Smith

Congrats. Great comeback (and a heck of a time for my team to suck wind )

Thanks David and Chris. Great competition. Too bad the good guys lost.

 

[Mario Kart]

I am content with my finish in Leg 2. I did not look over the "games lost in injury" but I think I would be up there in that category. My starting lineup each week was good on paper but took some hits in the injury department which cost me in the long run. My depth was okay and only needed them, in theory, a couple of weeks but I had injuries at each position with more than one guy at a time. Dont care how great your depth might be but those losses wont be overcome.

I still like this method the best as well... Auction/Survivor or Best Ball.

 

[Team Legacy]

Great competition gang. I hope to be invited back next year.

In my Post Draft Analysis, I mentioned that my GUTSY play was Maroney over Gore. Had Gore been my pick, I would have walked off with this thing.

Great job Culcasi pulling down the title.

Staff, we didn't get together enough to strategize. A little more planning and we dominate this thing next year.

 

[Team Legacy]

Finished out of the money in Leg 2 by about one game. Shucks. If only Kevin Jones had stayed healthy.

Try losing Portis in a serpentine draft. Luckily I was the messageboard MJD pimp and landed him late to make up for Portis' absence.

If you're the pimp, I'm the CO-pimp. I landed him in every Dynasty Leaugue I'm in (3) this offseason and am lovin' it. Landed Maroney in 2 of 3, but Perry took him WAY early in Fix Dynasty.

 

[BassNBrew]

we didn't get together enough to strategize. A little more planning and we dominate this thing next year.

I hope whoever is back next year takes this to heart. There were some bad strategic errors made that could have been sorted out with some advance discussion. Some just didn't participate. There's no excuse to be caught off guard in the 1st/2nd round. Even if worst case scenarios unfold, a contingency should be in place in advance.

 

[cracKer]

we didn't get together enough to strategize. A little more planning and we dominate this thing next year.

I hope whoever is back next year takes this to heart. There were some bad strategic errors made that could have been sorted out with some advance discussion. Some just didn't participate. There's no excuse to be caught off guard in the 1st/2nd round. Even if worst case scenarios unfold, a contingency should be in place in advance.

 

[Capt Hook]

we didn't get together enough to strategize. A little more planning and we dominate this thing next year.

I hope whoever is back next year takes this to heart. There were some bad strategic errors made that could have been sorted out with some advance discussion. Some just didn't participate. There's no excuse to be caught off guard in the 1st/2nd round. Even if worst case scenarios unfold, a contingency should be in place in advance.

VERY

 

[LHUCKS]

Just noticed my post draft commentary for best and worst picks in Leg One:Q8. What were the 4-5 best picks in this draft? What were the 4-5 worst picks?

Best Picks7.09 - Frank Gore by Shick! was nice value 8.02 - Marion Barber by Stuart…a must-have if you're a JJ owner in a survivor format and Chase didn't reach too early for him. 10.08 - Mewelde Moore by Fullback Fro, waited on taking a very valuable handcuff about as long as possible. 12.12 - Leftwich by Team Legacy was great value 14.07 - Braylon Edwards by Culcasi could pay huge dividends in second half of the season. Worst Picks3.07 - DeShaun Foster by Wimer, Can't expect a full season and handcuff is expensive 3.11 - Julius Jones by Stuart, would have gone proven WR in this format. 13.02 - Michael Jenkins by Duckboy, Kitna or Brad Johnson would have been significantly more valuable to this team with viable QBs rapidly disappearing at that point in the draft. 20.06 - Kris Wilson by Wimer, wasn't on my radar and still isn't. 21.08 - William Green by Bass N Brew, although late in the draft a defense or TE would have contributed more.

 

[JayMan]

Preview rankings according to preseason ADP: (post #25 on July 17)

1. -- Shawn Culcasi ----  15.732. -- Team Legacy ------   4.183. -- Abrecher ---------   0.004. -- BassNBrew --------  -5.325. -- Chase Stuart -----  -5.416. -- Duckboy ----------  -5.867. -- Willliam Grant ---  -6.508. -- LHUCKS -----------  -6.919. -- Fullback Fro -----  -7.2310. - David Shick! -----  -7.9111. - Mike Anderson ----  -8.4512. - Mark Wimer ------- -20.27

Final Standings:

1. -- Duckboy ------- 2560.5 (+5)2. -- Team Legacy --- 2532.5 (--)3. -- Shawn Culcasi - 2523.3 (-2)4. -- Chase Stuart -- 2279.3 (+1)5. -- David Shick! -- 2275.4 (+5)6. -- BassNBrew ----- 2262.3 (-2)7. -- Fullback Fro -- 2240.2 (+2)8. -- LHUCKS -------- 2142.0 (--)9. -- Mark Wimer ---- 2107.2 (+3)10. - William Grant - 2067.3 (-3)11. - Mike Anderson - 1991.3 (--)12. - Abrecher ------ 1948.1 (-9)

We can see that, for the most part, preseason ADP - over/underpaying was a very good predictor and indicator of the Final Standings (to my biggest surprise)... Hoping that we can learn from this - especially in leagues where the WW is not an option...

 

[LHUCKS]

We can see that, for the most part, preseason ADP - over/underpaying was a very good predictor and indicator of the Final Standings (to my biggest surprise)... Hoping that we can learn from this - especially in leagues where the WW is not an option...

The only problems with those rankings is that I drafted to survive, not to finish high in total points rankings.

 

[Team Legacy]

So I'm just curious...

What did we win exactly ?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

So I'm just curious... What did we win exactly ?

staff won the triathlon

 

[radballs]

We can see that, for the most part, preseason ADP - over/underpaying was a very good predictor and indicator of the Final Standings (to my biggest surprise)... Hoping that we can learn from this - especially in leagues where the WW is not an option...

The only problems with those rankings is that I drafted to survive, not to finish high in total points rankings.

How does trying to eliminate overpaying versus ADP contradict surviving? I guess you mean, as an example, taking your own RB handcuffs/backups a bit earlier than normal but otherwise I don't see it. It's always about maximizing value except for that particular example. WR and QB handcuffs are a bit of a stretch as another example in this format imo.

 

[LHUCKS]

We can see that, for the most part, preseason ADP - over/underpaying was a very good predictor and indicator of the Final Standings (to my biggest surprise)... Hoping that we can learn from this - especially in leagues where the WW is not an option...

The only problems with those rankings is that I drafted to survive, not to finish high in total points rankings.

I guess you mean, as an example, taking your own RB handcuffs/backups a bit earlier than normal but otherwise I don't see it. It's always about maximizing value except for that particular example. WR and QB handcuffs are a bit of a stretch as another example in this format imo.

Exactly...there are other problems as well. I'm tired though...will revisit.

 

[Team Legacy]

So I'm just curious...

What did we win exactly ?

staff won the triathlon

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=245089&hl=That seems incorrect to me Aaron.

According to this post by Dodds:

9. Scoring of each contest will be 10 points for first, 8 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd, 4 for 4th, 2 for 5th and 1 for 6th for each contest.

10. We are allocating the following dollars for the participants:

A. Each MB participant will get $50 for their writeups.

B. Each MB participant will get $15 per point they earn.

C. An additional $900 will be split evenly ($50 each) to the message board should they beat the staff team. 93 total points are available. The team scoring 47 or more will be considered the Champion.

D. Reviewers will get $100 for their writeups, but are not eligible for items A, B and C above.

 

[aaronr28]

Leg 2

MB - 10

S - 8

MB - 6

S - 4

S - 2

MB - 1

MB - 17

S - 14

Leg 1

S - 10

MB - 8

S - 6

MB - 4

S - 2

S - 1

MB - 12

S - 19

Leg 3

S - 10

MB - 8

S - 6

S - 4

S - 2

MB - 1

MB - 9

S - 22

Combined

MB - 38

S - 55

I guess some of you guys get some money, but you didn't win the big prize

 

[Team Legacy]

Leg 2MB - 10S - 8MB - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 17S - 14Leg 1S - 10MB - 8S - 6MB - 4S - 2S - 1MB - 12S - 19Leg 3S - 10MB - 8S - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 9S - 22CombinedMB - 38S - 55I guess some of you guys get some money, but you didn't win the big prize

Cool, so what would be proper course of action, wait for David or will one of the staff remind him for us?Thanks Aaron! I look forward to leading the Message Board again next year. With a little more team unity next year, we should have no problem.

 

[David Dodds]

Leg 2MB - 10S - 8MB - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 17S - 14Leg 1S - 10MB - 8S - 6MB - 4S - 2S - 1MB - 12S - 19Leg 3S - 10MB - 8S - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 9S - 22CombinedMB - 38S - 55I guess some of you guys get some money, but you didn't win the big prize

Cool, so what would be proper course of action, wait for David or will one of the staff remind him for us?Thanks Aaron! I look forward to leading the Message Board again next year. With a little more team unity next year, we should have no problem.

Clayton should be emailing you shortly so we can get you your money.

 

[Team Legacy]

Leg 2MB - 10S - 8MB - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 17S - 14Leg 1S - 10MB - 8S - 6MB - 4S - 2S - 1MB - 12S - 19Leg 3S - 10MB - 8S - 6S - 4S - 2MB - 1MB - 9S - 22CombinedMB - 38S - 55I guess some of you guys get some money, but you didn't win the big prize

Cool, so what would be proper course of action, wait for David or will one of the staff remind him for us?Thanks Aaron! I look forward to leading the Message Board again next year. With a little more team unity next year, we should have no problem.

Clayton should be emailing you shortly so we can get you your money.

No rush David, however as bad as my memory is, I would completely forget about it. I won a free subscription from you somewhere down the line and completely can't remember where or why you awarded it. lmao... Without the thread, I'd most likely pay my dues like always.Thanks for the contest and again, no rush.Scott

 

[LHUCKS]

Vote HERE to determine which charity my winnings will go to.

 

[Team Legacy]

Received a check today from SportsGuys LLC out of Sweetwater.

No notes in the Memo section, so I'm curious if this is the winnings for the Triathalon Leg One?

This Check is for $150, I'm pretty sure I won $170 in this contest, so I'm not sure if this is from FBG or not. (8 pts for 2nd, $15 per point, $50 for the writeups)

When I did a search for Sportsguys LLC, the first link it brought up was FFTOC, but I don't think I had a team with them this year.

If this IS my FBG check, don't worry about the difference. I was happy to be a part of it!

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[BassNBrew]

Received a check today from SportsGuys LLC out of Sweetwater. No notes in the Memo section, so I'm curious if this is the winnings for the Triathalon Leg One? This Check is for $150, I'm pretty sure I won $170 in this contest, so I'm not sure if this is from FBG or not. (8 pts for 2nd, $15 per point, $50 for the writeups)When I did a search for Sportsguys LLC, the first link it brought up was FFTOC, but I don't think I had a team with them this year.If this IS my FBG check, don't worry about the difference. I was happy to be a part of it!Thanks for the clarification!

Yes...Footballguys = Sportsguys.Mine came a couple of days ago. Thanks DD.

 

[Tick]

This was fun, though I'll never play FFTOC format again.

Sorry, MB buddies - we stunk up the competition this year.

 

[Sinrman]

Well, I got substituted in after Week 1 in Leg 3, and was put in a big hole point-wise. Allowing me to start fresh with players, however, and not start with a big 0 at least helped. I tried to make the best of it, and almost got to the middle of the pack, but alas, it just wasn't meant to be... hopefully next go-around, if I were to be chosen, I can start fresh.

Congrats to the Staff for FINALLY winning...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Well, I got substituted in after Week 1 in Leg 3, and was put in a big hole point-wise. Allowing me to start fresh with players, however, and not start with a big 0 at least helped. I tried to make the best of it, and almost got to the middle of the pack, but alas, it just wasn't meant to be... hopefully next go-around, if I were to be chosen, I can start fresh.Congrats to the Staff for FINALLY winning...

Some staff are undefeated.....

 

[Duckboy]

Received a check today from SportsGuys LLC out of Sweetwater. No notes in the Memo section, so I'm curious if this is the winnings for the Triathalon Leg One? This Check is for $150, I'm pretty sure I won $170 in this contest, so I'm not sure if this is from FBG or not. (8 pts for 2nd, $15 per point, $50 for the writeups)When I did a search for Sportsguys LLC, the first link it brought up was FFTOC, but I don't think I had a team with them this year.If this IS my FBG check, don't worry about the difference. I was happy to be a part of it!Thanks for the clarification!

Yes...Footballguys = Sportsguys.Mine came a couple of days ago. Thanks DD.

Got mine as well. Not sure if I should cash it or frame it to save the autograph Also, been working on analysis for Leg One, as a possible assistance for making the predictors of better value. Probably will start a thread in the next couple of days with the first team or two; it will also analyze the post draft analysis (Clayton/Gatorman/Dodds Predictor). Some interesting trends from what I've seen so far.Thanks for the opportunity to participate, and hope I'll get another shot this upcoming year.