Trip's Top 3 Value Plays by Position (1 Viewer)

[TripItUp]

QB

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

2. Sam Bradford - top 5 ceiling, with high ADP price tag

3. Tom Brady - Top 5 PPG

RB

1. Arian Foster - moderate risk, huge reward

2. Joseph Randle - it has been the perfect preseason to keep ADP reasonable

3. David Johnson - Will be the bellcow before season's end

WR

1. Nelson Agholor - YAC to spare

2. Sammy Watkins - QB situation not as doom and gloom as I had originally expected

3. Desean Jackson - puts up numbers regardless of QB

TE

1. Delanie Walker - best pass catcher on the team, Mariota looks legit

2. Josh Hill - looks to be heavily involved, despite physical limitations

3. Antonio Gates - still the best redzone threat on the team, going really late

 

[Frank Black]

Of those players you mentioned, I agree the most in Foster and Watkins. I'm beginning to think Watkins has more hope than widely expected.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

good list..

 

[TripItUp]

good list..

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Foster is a great value. From what Dr. Jene was saying in the TH meeting last night, the next 7-10 days are crucial for his recovery, but his target in reality is Weeks 2 to 4 for a return. People are forgetting about him.

 

[Tau837]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006. To call this guaranteed is laughable.

2. Josh Hill - looks to be heavily involved, despite physical limitations

Based on what?

 

[Banger]

nice list and I've targeted several of those guys...Foster is one of the best IMO.

I also really like Tannehill, Duke Johnson, Allen Robinson and John Brown

Don't really like the Watkins call. Rex will take the air out of the ball and over the past few years has been in the bottom 10 in passing attempts and he's got more competition for the ball...love the talent just don't see the targets.

 

[TripItUp]

nice list and I've targeted several of those guys...Foster is one of the best IMO.

I also really like Tannehill, Duke Johnson, Allen Robinson and John Brown

Duke has had a great preseason to keep ADP low. Agree on Brown, he was on my short list.

Robinson has been getting pimped everywhere, his ADP seems to be skyrocketing of late so I purposely left him off.

Tanne seems to be priced about right for my taste, but I like his floor.

 

[Banger]

nice list and I've targeted several of those guys...Foster is one of the best IMO.

I also really like Tannehill, Duke Johnson, Allen Robinson and John Brown

Duke has had a great preseason to keep ADP low. Agree on Brown, he was on my short list.

Robinson has been getting pimped everywhere, his ADP seems to be skyrocketing of late so I purposely left him off.

ya, I decent showing this weekend by Duke and his ADP may jump rounds...today a very low cost high reward option...tomorrow ?

 

[TripItUp]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006. To call this guaranteed is laughable.

Let's try to keep It civil, sport.

What do you think Palmer's PPG ranking was last year prior to injury?

 

[Anarchy99]

QB

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

2. Sam Bradford - top 5 ceiling, with high ADP price tag

3. Tom Brady - Top 5 PPG

RB

1. Arian Foster - moderate risk, huge reward

2. Joseph Randle - it has been the perfect preseason to keep ADP reasonable

3. David Johnson - Will be the bellcow before season's end

WR

1. Nelson Agholor - YAC to spare

2. Sammy Watkins - QB situation not as doom and gloom as I had originally expected

3. Desean Jackson - puts up numbers regardless of QB

TE

1. Delanie Walker - best pass catcher on the team, Mariota looks legit

2. Josh Hill - looks to be heavily involved, despite physical limitations

3. Antonio Gates - still the best redzone threat on the team, going really late

As already stated, Palmer is not guaranteed anything. He had a hot month last year against some really bad pass defenses. He is what he is. A middle of the road fantasy option best served as a fantasy backup or injury/bye week fill in. I will stake his career track record over his hot month last year as his expected level of play. Bradford could be decent but has missed 31 games in the past 4 seasons. He's missed essentially two full seasons. How he responds to the Eagles system and whether he can stay healthy is a mystery. Brady is low hanging fruit and a gift from the fantasy gods. That one I agree with.

Foster definitely worth the risk if the price isn't too high. Randle probably worth the investment but you have been hammering CJ Anderson for not having proven anything for weeks. Randle has 100 career rushing attempts and has already got a minor injury. I don't think Johnson has more to offer than Ellington and the Cards went out and brought in the other Johnson. I don't take that as a resounding endorsement for David Johnson or Ellington. I still think it's Ellington's job to lose and if he staggers it will be RBBC or hot hand game by game.

Someone will be catching the ball in PHI. My guess is Matthews and Ertz, but Agoholor could get a piece of the pie. I think Watkins is actually more overvalued than undervalued. We can't tell squat from the preseason. Defenses are running high school schemes and running out guys that won't be in the league in a few weeks. Rex will run a ton, there are more weapons than last year, and I am not convinced the QB situation is anything but mediocre. Pass for me on Watkins. I don't mind Jackson, but IMO his ADP of WR22 doesn't leave a lot of upside. He should be Top 15-20 again, but I don't expect a leap into the Top 5 or anything.

Walker is a good call. I have him on multiple teams. I don't see Hill being anywhere near what Graham was and Watson is the one getting starter reps. IMO, NOS redistributes Graham's workload in many ways to many people, and Hill doesn't even end up as fantasy start worthy in 12 team leagues. Father time may catch up to Gates. A lot will depend how the team functions without him as to what his role will be when he comes back. I don't think he will see the targets or the TDs we are accustomed to seeing from him.

 

[Tau837]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006. To call this guaranteed is laughable.

Let's try to keep It civil, sport.

What do you think Palmer's PPG ranking was last year prior to injury?

Per Chase Stuart's Rearview QB article, Palmer played 5.9 adjusted games last season and averaged 21.3 points per adjusted game, which was #14 in the league.

I assume you are looking at his first 5 games played and using his average ppg from those games. That is flawed. From the article:

Palmer had the easiest schedule in football because he missed both Seahawks games and both 49ers games, while getting to play Washington and Philadelphia, along with the Chargers, Raiders, Cowboys, and Rams. His teammate, Drew Stanton, had the hardest schedule of any quarterback in the NFL last year.

Does that answer your question, sport?

 

[Freelove]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006.

Last year.Chase's numbers, not unusually, for him, are gruesomely flawed.

 

[Tau837]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006.

Last year.Chase's numbers, not unusually, for him, are gruesomely flawed.

I don't play in any league in which Palmer was top 10 in ppg last year.

Chase's numbers may or may not be flawed, but there is no disputing that Palmer faced a ridiculously easy schedule in a small sample size of 5 games in which he had success. There is every reason to expect that he will face a much harder schedule this season, and that is a major reason why his small sample size from last season is not very predictive.

 

[jurb26]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Ive been all over Foster and Gates in drafts thus far. Love their value vs the risk based on ADP.

Good list overall, but on short lists like this I wouldnt include DJax or Watkins, and I think David Johnson and Hill are total wildcards. Ive drafted both, but total wildcards.

 

[Freelove]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006. To call this guaranteed is laughable.

Let's try to keep It civil, sport.

What do you think Palmer's PPG ranking was last year prior to injury?

Per Chase Stuart's Rearview QB article, Palmer played 5.9 adjusted games last season and averaged 21.3 points per adjusted game, which was #14 in the league.

I assume you are looking at his first 5 games played and using his average ppg from those games. That is flawed. From the article:

Palmer had the easiest schedule in football because he missed both Seahawks games and both 49ers games, while getting to play Washington and Philadelphia, along with the Chargers, Raiders, Cowboys, and Rams. His teammate, Drew Stanton, had the hardest schedule of any quarterback in the NFL last year.

Does that answer your question, sport?

This nonsense, along with Anarchy99's beating of the same drum, have been debunked.

Looking at Palmer's schefule this year, his average game does not project to be much harder than his early schedule last year.

And saddling him with "statistical analysis" that places any value at all on his sixth game, equally so. All minutes of a game are not crested equally, and early last season, Palmer would have been well poised for a significant 4th quarter against dime and prevent defenses, as evidenced by the fact that the unprepped backup did so after Palmer went down.

Top 10 ppg is not merely possible, it's so likely failure would be shocking.

5.9 games.

 

[Anarchy99]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

 

[Freelove]

Proof that a stats background and insistence that you can apply them to FF are no substitute for understanding the game, and knowing when you can -- and more impotantly, can't -- apply simple math in exclusion of game understanding.

 

[TripItUp]

1. Carson Palmer - guaranteed top 10 PPG, with high ADP price tag

The last time Palmer was top 10 in ppg was 2006. To call this guaranteed is laughable.

Let's try to keep It civil, sport.

What do you think Palmer's PPG ranking was last year prior to injury?

Per Chase Stuart's Rearview QB article, Palmer played 5.9 adjusted games last season and averaged 21.3 points per adjusted game, which was #14 in the league.

I assume you are looking at his first 5 games played and using his average ppg from those games. That is flawed. From the article:

Palmer had the easiest schedule in football because he missed both Seahawks games and both 49ers games, while getting to play Washington and Philadelphia, along with the Chargers, Raiders, Cowboys, and Rams. His teammate, Drew Stanton, had the hardest schedule of any quarterback in the NFL last year.

Does that answer your question, sport?

This nonsense, along with Anarchy99's beating of the same drum, have been debunked.

Looking at Palmer's schefule this year, his average game does not project to be much harder than his early schedule last year.

And saddling him with "statistical analysis" that places any value at all on his sixth game, equally so. All minutes of a game are not crested equally, and early last season, Palmer would have been well poised for a significant 4th quarter against dime and prevent defenses, as evidenced by the fact that the unprepped backup did so after Palmer went down.

Top 10 ppg is not merely possible, it's so likely failure would be shocking.

5.9 games.

couldn't have stated it better myself

 

[TripItUp]

and I think David Johnson and Hill are total wildcards. Ive drafted both, but total wildcards.

Sure, every player is a wildcard to some extent...it becomes a matter of weighing risk vs. reward and I like that ratio with these two players quite a bit.

 

[pantherclub]

Ive been all over Foster and Gates in drafts thus far. Love their value vs the risk based on ADP.

Good list overall, but on short lists like this I wouldnt include DJax or Watkins, and I think David Johnson and Hill are total wildcards. Ive drafted both, but total wildcards.

He is going roughly in the 7th round right? Seems like a incredibly high risk too me.

 

[jurb26]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

Like Doc Jene said, the next 7-10 days of recovery/rehab for him are crucial.

 

[Anarchy99]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .

Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

 

[Ilov80s]

I like the list. I'd replace Sammy with Charles Johnson. I'm really happy with where he is going.

 

[pantherclub]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .

Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

Um, no thanks

 

[Manster]

Palmer could be good value. I know everyone is excited about Bradford with da iggles weapons, but the dude can't stay on the field. At this point he's damaged goods.....and in chips offense? I'd draft him as my b/u if he's there late, with a wait and see mindset. Potential is there, but he needs to show it.

 

[Anarchy99]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .

Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

Um, no thanks

It depends where he is getting drafted. Once he comes back you are getting a proven top tier back. In the past 5 years, he ranked #1 in PPG twice and #2 in PPG twice. I'll take that. He will come at a big discount from the risk adverse. It all depends where he is going post injury. I took him the other day at pick 97. Seemed like a good spot to me. Others may think otherwise.

 

[TripItUp]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .

Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

Stefania Bell is also on record(prior to the Wilson blurb) stating a similar timeline in a best case scenario...

 

[TripItUp]

Palmer could be good value. I know everyone is excited about Bradford with da iggles weapons, but the dude can't stay on the field. At this point he's damaged goods.....and in chips offense? I'd draft him as my b/u if he's there late, with a wait and see mindset. Potential is there, but he needs to show it.

I would certainly only recommend Bradford as a QB2 or QB3, which should be no problem given his ADP.

 

[JohnnyU]

QB

1. Sam Bradford - Still cheap because fantasy owners can't get the past injuries out of their minds. He's on a good offensive team and IF he can stay healthy he will be the biggest steal of the year at the position.

2. Teddy Bridgewater - I think the Vikings make the playoffs this year and Bridgewater will have a lot to do with it. He's definitely someone on the rise in my opinion

3. Derek Carr - I think he's on the cusp of a breakout. He has talent and now has Amari Cooper

RB

1. Jonathan Stewart - Healthy and no DeAngelo Williams and may have to depend on the run more

2. Frank Gore - Should have a monster season and he's still relatively inexpensive

3. Tre Mason - I'm not convinced Gurley has much impact as a rookie year because I feel Mason will run well and the Rams will not rush their prized rookie.

WR

1. Marvin Jones - Finally 100% and will be a lot better than Sanu was last year at the WR #2 (..and he will be the #2 sooner than later). He was showing the talent before he got hurt. (I don't own him in any league).

2. Andre Johnson - I think he has one more big year in him and he's dirt cheap.

3. Jordan Matthews - He can still be had at a decent price (not cheap, but at a respectable price ) and I look for him to have oodles of yards this year and possibly double digit TDs.

TE

1. Delanie Walker - Waaay undervalued.

2. Tyler Eifert - This could be the breakout year for Eifert now that Gresham is gone and he is healthy.

3. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Get him while he is cheap, because he's about to take the next step forward and I like his QB now. I wanted to put Dwayne Allen here, but with Fleener on the team I just couldn't.

 

[pantherclub]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .

Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

Um, no thanks

It depends where he is getting drafted. Once he comes back you are getting a proven top tier back. In the past 5 years, he ranked #1 in PPG twice and #2 in PPG twice. I'll take that. He will come at a big discount from the risk adverse. It all depends where he is going post injury. I took him the other day at pick 97. Seemed like a good spot to me. Others may think otherwise.

He is going in the 7th

 

[ImTheScientist]

good list..

Brady, foster, and gates... Lol

Put them all on a team and you are starting 0-4

 

[ImTheScientist]

QB

1. Sam Bradford - Still cheap because fantasy owners can't get the past injuries out of their minds. He's on a good offensive team and IF he can stay healthy he will be the biggest steal of the year at the position.

2. Teddy Bridgewater - I think the Vikings make the playoffs this year and Bridgewater will have a lot to do with it. He's definitely someone on the rise in my opinion

3. Derek Carr - I think he's on the cusp of a breakout. He has talent and now has Amari Cooper



RB

1. Jonathan Stewart - Healthy and no DeAngelo Williams and may have to depend on the run more

2. Frank Gore - Should have a monster season and he's still relatively inexpensive

3. Tre Mason - I'm not convinced Gurley has much impact as a rookie year because I feel Mason will run well and the Rams will not rush their prized rookie.



WR

1. Marvin Jones - Finally 100% and will be a lot better than Sanu was last year at the WR #2 (..and he will be the #2 sooner than later). He was showing the talent before he got hurt. (I don't own him in any league).

2. Andre Johnson - I think he has one more big year in him and he's dirt cheap.

3. Jordan Matthews - He can still be had at a decent price (not cheap, but at a respectable price ) and I look for him to have oodles of yards this year and possibly double digit TDs.



TE

1. Delanie Walker - Waaay undervalued.

2. Tyler Eifert - This could be the breakout year for Eifert now that Gresham is gone and he is healthy.

3. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Get him while he is cheap, because he's about to take the next step forward and I like his QB now.

This is a good list!

 

[Ilov80s]

Gore and Lamar Miller seem to be going very close to each other and I find myself struggling to pick between them. Why do you think Gore is the better value/player?

 

[TripItUp]

Gore and Lamar Miller seem to be going very close to each other and I find myself struggling to pick between them. Why do you think Gore is the better value/player?

I like Lamar Miller...less mileage.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gore and Lamar Miller seem to be going very close to each other and I find myself struggling to pick between them. Why do you think Gore is the better value/player?

Indy's passing game this year will be ridiculous, perhaps record setting, so even with the lousy offensive line Indy has I expect Gore to still have a monster year if he stays healthy. I think he will also catch more passes than you expect. Couple that with how cheap he is, that's why I think he's such a good value play. As for Miller, I like him too, but should he struggle I see Miami losing confidence in him, just as they have in the past.

 

[TripItUp]

Brady, foster, and gates... Lol

Put them all on a team and you are starting 0-4

I should clarify that I like them as backups primarily in 12 team leagues or fewer...too risky for 14/16 team leagues.

 

[Ilov80s]

Brady, foster, and gates... Lol

Put them all on a team and you are starting 0-4

I should clarify that I like them as backups primarily in 12 team leagues or fewer...too risky for 14/16 team leagues.

Yeah, and you don't draft all of them. A team needs balance.

 

[TripItUp]

Brady, foster, and gates... Lol

Put them all on a team and you are starting 0-4

I should clarify that I like them as backups primarily in 12 team leagues or fewer...too risky for 14/16 team leagues.

Yeah, and you don't draft all of them. A team needs balance.

correct

 

[Tau837]

Top 10 ppg is not merely possible, it's so likely failure would be shocking.

Prepare to be shocked.

 

[Ilov80s]

Gore and Lamar Miller seem to be going very close to each other and I find myself struggling to pick between them. Why do you think Gore is the better value/player?

Indy's passing game this year will be ridiculous, perhaps record setting, so even with the lousy offensive line Indy has I expect Gore to still have a monster year if he stays healthy. I think he will also catch more passes than you expect. Couple that with how cheap he is, that's why I think he's such a good value play. As for Miller, I like him too, but should he struggle I see Miami losing confidence in him, just as they have in the past.

Gore and Lamar Miller seem to be going very close to each other and I find myself struggling to pick between them. Why do you think Gore is the better value/player?

I like Lamar Miller...less mileage.

No surprise I got 2 differing responses. These guys are just so close. Last year in standard Bradshaw averaged 11.7 ppg and Miller 11.6. They were RBs 11 and 12 in ppg. Miller is younger and has room to both improve and see more touches. On the other hand, Bradshaw racked up those stats while Richardson was getting more touches (13.7 touches per game vs Bradshaw's 12.8). Gore is old though and could fall off. Miller might not see RZ work. These guys are just dead equal to me.

 

[Boston]

Can someone who knows the Saints clear up what is going on with Hill...he was on the all-break out team before preseason but right now it feels like he got lost in the Bermuda Triangle...the guys over at CBS Sportsline both have Watson in their top 15 and Hill at #24...what's the word in New Orleans on this?

 

[jurb26]

What am I missing about Foster that he is a moderate risk? I mean he's going to mis half the season. That alone isn't moderate. Also, I've heard there are concerns he comes back full speed and that there might be some lingering effects that slow him even when back.

It depends what you read and who you want to believe. Some people say half the season. Some people are saying back in September.

Interesting. FWIW, I was listening to some female Doc they had on Sirius NFL radio. She seemed to be concerned about it.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle . . .Best-case scenario for Arian Foster, if no setbacks in rehab from groin surgery, likely end of September, per sources.

Um, no thanks

It depends where he is getting drafted. Once he comes back you are getting a proven top tier back. In the past 5 years, he ranked #1 in PPG twice and #2 in PPG twice. I'll take that. He will come at a big discount from the risk adverse. It all depends where he is going post injury. I took him the other day at pick 97. Seemed like a good spot to me. Others may think otherwise.

Well, that's part of the problem for me. I don't know you are getting that top tier back once he's back. There are conflicting reports about how his actual come back will go. Maybe you get that top back, maybe you get a RB2 because he's not full speed.

 

[massraider]

I think Watkins, more than anyone, you can pick weeks when you will feel fine rolling him out there, and weeks when you'll be really nervous starting him. Every receiver who's not top 10 will have ups and downs, I feel like you can predict his better than most, and that has value. I think Buffalo's offense will vary from 'good enough for Watkins to get some nice compiler stats' to 'don't want to start anyone from this offense.'

 

[massraider]

Regarding Palmer: That offensive line is basically Jared Veldheer and his four old roommates from Hillsdale College. That should be terrifying.

 

[Anarchy99]

I think Watkins, more than anyone, you can pick weeks when you will feel fine rolling him out there, and weeks when you'll be really nervous starting him. Every receiver who's not top 10 will have ups and downs, I feel like you can predict his better than most, and that has value. I think Buffalo's offense will vary from 'good enough for Watkins to get some nice compiler stats' to 'don't want to start anyone from this offense.'

Watkins has an ADP of WR18 at MFL. Do you really want to draft a guy that high trying to figure out match ups or use a WRBC?

 

[massraider]

I think Watkins, more than anyone, you can pick weeks when you will feel fine rolling him out there, and weeks when you'll be really nervous starting him. Every receiver who's not top 10 will have ups and downs, I feel like you can predict his better than most, and that has value. I think Buffalo's offense will vary from 'good enough for Watkins to get some nice compiler stats' to 'don't want to start anyone from this offense.'

Watkins has an ADP of WR18 at MFL. Do you really want to draft a guy that high trying to figure out match ups or use a WRBC?

No, and I don't really agree that he's a value play. Just an observation by me. Pay no attention, I've been smoking.

 

[TripItUp]

Regarding Palmer: That offensive line is basically Jared Veldheer and his four old roommates from Hillsdale College. That should be terrifying.

I think that's a bit of an overstatement. They will be solid in pass protection this year.