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True Detective: Tom went in to listen to the Cardinals game...in November. Mmmmmhmmmm... (1 Viewer)

No ####### kiddingMost of it made sense while reading, although I've missed how we "know" (or why we think) that the Osterman kids killed Caspere.
Also, the person who killed Caspere and delivered him on display to the park without eyes and genitalia seems to have done that to attract attention to him. But nothing really comes of it except this bull#### investigation. Also, the killer seemingly took the bird mask from Caspere's apartment given the other animal masks on the wall and the one missing.. Why? Then the same person is wearing it again when shooting Valcoro. Also, that's a few days or weeks later, but the killer is still staking out the house and only gets the hard drive and camera then?
 
No ####### kiddingMost of it made sense while reading, although I've missed how we "know" (or why we think) that the Osterman kids killed Caspere.
Also, the person who killed Caspere and delivered him on display to the park without eyes and genitalia seems to have done that to attract attention to him. But nothing really comes of it except this bull#### investigation. Also, the killer seemingly took the bird mask from Caspere's apartment given the other animal masks on the wall and the one missing.. Why? Then the same person is wearing it again when shooting Valcoro. Also, that's a few days or weeks later, but the killer is still staking out the house and only gets the hard drive and camera then?
This makes some sense now. May have been waiting for people on an arya stark style hitlist to show up looking for the hd.

 
No ####### kidding

Most of it made sense while reading, although I've missed how we "know" (or why we think) that the Osterman kids killed Caspere.
Probably because the girl was around Caspere, then suddenly disappeared.

 
All I know is his wife is still awful and ruins every scene she's in. People want to hate on Vaughn, but that girl is dead weight.

 
All I know is his wife is still awful and ruins every scene she's in. People want to hate on Vaughn, but that girl is dead weight.
It's like she's been lobotomized.
I think it's performance art.
I bet we find out that she's a cyborg this week.
A cyborg that was a secret weapon of Black Mountain's. She destroyed an entire Iraqi orphanage with her shoulder-missiles.

 
The little girl in the picture grew up to be Caspere's secretary or some ####.
Yea...the summary mentions seeing her in Ep 3, but I thought we also met her in Ep 1...when Velcoro starts trying to find the missing Caspere.

 
Amazing how bad this is as a sequel of sorts. Possibly destroyed the franchise, or at least put it at huge risk.

Is the popular press as harsh on the show as we are?

 
Amazing how bad this is as a sequel of sorts. Possibly destroyed the franchise, or at least put it at huge risk.

Is the popular press as harsh on the show as we are?
no

most consider it above average television, which it is.

65/73 on Rotten Tomatoes

 
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Michael (?) Lombardo, one of the mucky-mucks of HBO programming, gave it a vote of confidence and said that a season 3 is up to Pizzolatto. He also said the finale was enormously satisfying or something, and was mystified by a lot of the criticism it's received (uh huh).

So who knows. PizzaLotta has been radio silent on the whole thing.

 
Even though I complained a couple weeks ago - eps 4 & 5 were kinda crummy as I recall - I think the past couple have been real good and overall I'm happy with the series, glad I kept watching. Very different from the first season, and with everything being completely new anyway I feel it's pointless to even compare them.

I think it's as silly as it's supposed to be, and that's OK.

The song, and The Brink, still suck big time.

 
The ginger kid Chad is the mastermind, already has the hard drive and the governor candidate is his puppet, helping him play off everybody against each other, to orchestrate a culminating shootout between Catalyst, crooked Vinci LE, the Russians and Mexicans, so he can grab the blue diamonds at the end.

Don't think the below requires a *SPOILER* tag, as everybody is just speculating anyways:

Creepy pedo-perv rape-o unicorn guy's (if Twin Peaks Killer Bob married Charlie Manson and had a baby, and Bill Paxson and Jeff Bridges circa Lebowski had a baby, and THEIR babies had a baby, it would look like him*) face is going to have a meeting with Ani's knife in the near future.

Ani's sister Athene better get out of Dodge quick, before the orgy cabal puts 2 + 2 together.

At least two different wives came to a bad end. There was an allusion/theory that the appetites in evidence at the murder shed may have had something to do with the mayor's wife going insane. Ani's mother (wife of her father/long haired hippy commune leader dude) drowned herself. Ever since I saw Morse in the first episode, he creeped me out (maybe bad guy resonance from Long Kiss Goodnight, The Rock and 12 Monkeys). And there was the photo by the river that connected him, the mayor, Rick Springfield (who ties in centrally to the plot several ways, treated and committed the mayor's wife, cuts the Russian pros and confessed to Ray) AND possibly unicorn hunter.

I haven't watched since episode 1, don't get HBO, but Nigel Tufnel's link at the top of page 100 (and Polygon, which was linked there and also by GPJ in the previous post at the bottom of page 99, and which I found even more interesting) turned me around from thinking the show was a mess based on earlier descriptions, to now thinking it is highly underrated. At least plot wise (Blue balls in the heart probably isn't exactly Emmy-worthy dialogue).

* https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3915468/not-jesus_-_true_detective.0.jpg

 
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I'm only two episodes in but would like to follow along with this trainwreck. Can GPJ please link to the start of each week's discussion in the first post please? TIA will answer yours.

Also, am I the only one having to watch this with CC on? A bunch of mumblers on this show.

 
I'm only two episodes in but would like to follow along with this trainwreck. Can GPJ please link to the start of each week's discussion in the first post please? TIA will answer yours.

Also, am I the only one having to watch this with CC on? A bunch of mumblers on this show.
Seems like a lot of work. Just scroll slowly when you get close to each Sunday.

But, I am giving you full authorization to hipple the #### out of this thread.

 
I'm only two episodes in but would like to follow along with this trainwreck. Can GPJ please link to the start of each week's discussion in the first post please? TIA will answer yours.

Also, am I the only one having to watch this with CC on? A bunch of mumblers on this show.
Just who do you think you are?

 
Wouldn't it make sense for Velcoro and Bezzerides to just walk the papers With So Many Signatures into the LA Times' offices?

Seems like Caspere was killed by "Leonard", the kid in the picture, with an assist from Laura, the other kid in the picture who was Caspere's asst.

 
Wouldn't it make sense for Velcoro and Bezzerides to just walk the papers With So Many Signatures into the LA Times' offices?

Seems like Caspere was killed by "Leonard", the kid in the picture, with an assist from Laura, the other kid in the picture who was Caspere's asst.
Yeah, I've been thinking this is a long-scale revenge plotted by those kids.

 
The ginger kid Chad is the mastermind, already has the hard drive and the governor candidate is his puppet, helping him play off everybody against each other, to orchestrate a culminating shootout between Catalyst, crooked Vinci LE, the Russians and Mexicans, so he can grab the blue diamonds at the end.

Don't think the below requires a *SPOILER* tag, as everybody is just speculating anyways:

Creepy pedo-perv rape-o unicorn guy's (if Twin Peaks Killer Bob married Charlie Manson and had a baby, and Bill Paxson and Jeff Bridges circa Lebowski had a baby, and THEIR babies had a baby, it would look like him*) face is going to have a meeting with Ani's knife in the near future.

Ani's sister Athene better get out of Dodge quick, before the orgy cabal puts 2 + 2 together.

At least two different wives came to a bad end. There was an allusion/theory that the appetites in evidence at the murder shed may have had something to do with the mayor's wife going insane. Ani's mother (wife of her father/long haired hippy commune leader dude) drowned herself. Ever since I saw Morse in the first episode, he creeped me out (maybe bad guy resonance from Long Kiss Goodnight, The Rock and 12 Monkeys). And there was the photo by the river that connected him, the mayor, Rick Springfield (who ties in centrally to the plot several ways, treated and committed the mayor's wife, cuts the Russian pros and confessed to Ray) AND possibly unicorn hunter.

I haven't watched since episode 1, don't get HBO, but Nigel Tufnel's link at the top of page 100 (and Polygon, which was linked there and also by GPJ in the previous post at the bottom of page 99, and which I found even more interesting) turned me around from thinking the show was a mess based on earlier descriptions, to now thinking it is highly underrated. At least plot wise (Blue balls in the heart probably isn't exactly Emmy-worthy dialogue).

* https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3915468/not-jesus_-_true_detective.0.jpg
This is more like it.

 
The ginger kid Chad is the mastermind, already has the hard drive and the governor candidate is his puppet, helping him play off everybody against each other, to orchestrate a culminating shootout between Catalyst, crooked Vinci LE, the Russians and Mexicans, so he can grab the blue diamonds at the end.

Don't think the below requires a *SPOILER* tag, as everybody is just speculating anyways:

Creepy pedo-perv rape-o unicorn guy's (if Twin Peaks Killer Bob married Charlie Manson and had a baby, and Bill Paxson and Jeff Bridges circa Lebowski had a baby, and THEIR babies had a baby, it would look like him*) face is going to have a meeting with Ani's knife in the near future.

Ani's sister Athene better get out of Dodge quick, before the orgy cabal puts 2 + 2 together.

At least two different wives came to a bad end. There was an allusion/theory that the appetites in evidence at the murder shed may have had something to do with the mayor's wife going insane. Ani's mother (wife of her father/long haired hippy commune leader dude) drowned herself. Ever since I saw Morse in the first episode, he creeped me out (maybe bad guy resonance from Long Kiss Goodnight, The Rock and 12 Monkeys). And there was the photo by the river that connected him, the mayor, Rick Springfield (who ties in centrally to the plot several ways, treated and committed the mayor's wife, cuts the Russian pros and confessed to Ray) AND possibly unicorn hunter.

I haven't watched since episode 1, don't get HBO, but Nigel Tufnel's link at the top of page 100 (and Polygon, which was linked there and also by GPJ in the previous post at the bottom of page 99, and which I found even more interesting) turned me around from thinking the show was a mess based on earlier descriptions, to now thinking it is highly underrated. At least plot wise (Blue balls in the heart probably isn't exactly Emmy-worthy dialogue).

* https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3915468/not-jesus_-_true_detective.0.jpg
This is more like it.

 
You are Detective Nic Pizzolatto, GGRP

You are the drizzling ####s both as an actor as well as a character. Your character is hooked up with (and knocks up) a Latina nympho, but you still struggle with the perplexing allure of cocks and balls.

 
Amazing how bad this is as a sequel of sorts. Possibly destroyed the franchise, or at least put it at huge risk.

Is the popular press as harsh on the show as we are?
Franchise is at no risk. Get out of your bubble
Will be interesting to see if they pull 3-4 big name actors again. Any Grammy noms here?
not sure anyone on the show has a chance at beating out Taylor Swift and Beyonce for a Grammy.

 
Seems like Caspere was killed by "Leonard", the kid in the picture, with an assist from Laura, the other kid in the picture who was Caspere's asst.
the boy in the pic would have to be about early 30's right now. I can't remember having seen anyone around 30 that might fit the description. I think it would be a cool twist if it was someone we've seen already though...from the opening song lyrics, "I hide among you, well disguised."

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
gump said:
Army Eye said:
Sandeman said:
Amazing how bad this is as a sequel of sorts. Possibly destroyed the franchise, or at least put it at huge risk.

Is the popular press as harsh on the show as we are?
Franchise is at no risk. Get out of your bubble
Will be interesting to see if they pull 3-4 big name actors again. Any Grammy noms here?
not sure anyone on the show has a chance at beating out Taylor Swift and Beyonce for a Grammy.
Not even in a Latin category?

 
Maik Jeaunz said:
"Good said:
Seems like Caspere was killed by "Leonard", the kid in the picture, with an assist from Laura, the other kid in the picture who was Caspere's asst.
the boy in the pic would have to be about early 30's right now. I can't remember having seen anyone around 30 that might fit the description. I think it would be a cool twist if it was someone we've seen already though...from the opening song lyrics, "I hide among you, well disguised."
How bout Nails...

 

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