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I hope they decide to implement mask wearing and social distancing if they’re going to hold this in an enclosed arena.Must be true if liberal “news” reported it!
I hope they decide to implement mask wearing and social distancing if they’re going to hold this in an enclosed arena.Must be true if liberal “news” reported it!
That's a big plant & they do have measures in place, but people are going to get it. As a state, we've decided to get the economy going. We're doing quite well as a whole.Days before Trump rally in Tulsa, city’s Whirlpool plant closes for COVID-19 outbreak
- Ft Worth Star Telegram
I don’t know. I can only tell you what I heard yesterday. Some here don’t believe it obviously. But it’s also been widely reported that Trump moved part of the convention out of North Carolina because the governor refused to guarantee a maskless audience.Trump just gave the commencement address at West Point. The graduating cadets wore masks and sat in chairs spaces apart to comply with social distancing requirements. The cadets were tested for the virus in advance and required to quarantine two weeks in advance of the event.
Why wouldn’t just some of these same precautions be taken with respect to the attendees of the rally in Tulsa?
The mask cuts down your chances considerably, but less so in a packed arena.Oklahoma is more than holding it's own as far as the virus. New cases, but testing is easy to get now. The mortality is so low & most people kick its ### rather easily.
I support whatever way they want to do the rally. You're free to wear a mask if you choose to go. Depending on a lot of factors (health, age. etc.), wear one & if they're effective, you won't get it. It's not hard.
So you expect that there will be masks worn and social distancing at this event?Must be true if liberal “news” reported it!
Sure. But things might get ugly between protesters and Trump supporters and then the police. Trump shouldn’t want that.They can peacefully protest all they want.
Who said they couldn't?
Think about what we're doing here.The mask cuts down your chances considerably, but less so in a packed arena.
Every public health expert says not to do this. Even the protests were held outside. The same venue where Trump’s rally is scheduled has cancelled all other events for the summer.
Do you think it’s distasteful if the Trump campaign affirmatively chooses not to implement any safety precautions at the event but at the same time asks everyone to sign a waiver and covenant not to sue for negligence if they contract the virus and suffer health problems as a result?Oklahoma is more than holding it's own as far as the virus. New cases, but testing is easy to get now. The mortality is so low & most people kick its ### rather easily.
I support whatever way they want to do the rally. You're free to wear a mask if you choose to go. Depending on a lot of factors (health, age. etc.), wear one & if they're effective, you won't get it. It's not hard.
Fwiw I posted the stats further up, it's true that OK is in the bottom tier of cases per capita (ie bottom meaning lowest, OK is 12th from bottom, including territories). The current problem is that OK has had a recent spike in cases. The old problem is still rate of spread without mitigation efforts, and there will likely be 20-60 people going into that arena with Covid. So some people in Tulsa or surrounding counties are going to get hurt from this.Oklahoma is more than holding it's own as far as the virus. New cases, but testing is easy to get now. The mortality is so low & most people kick its ### rather easily.
I support whatever way they want to do the rally. You're free to wear a mask if you choose to go. Depending on a lot of factors (health, age. etc.), wear one & if they're effective, you won't get it. It's not hard.
It’s not quite as simple as you make it out.Think about what we're doing here.
This shades red/blue a bit doesn't it? I'm for people analyzing the situation & making their own decision. You want more control.
So we don't hold events because of some punks?Sure. But things might get ugly between protesters and Trump supporters and then the police. Trump shouldn’t want that.
Please share, you could enlighten us all.How does an ostrich breathe with all the dirt and sand covering its head? Always wondered about this.
My guess is there were be tons of protesters and tons of counterprotesters. A lot from out of town of course. No way the Tulsa police can handle this. Do we call up the guard for a Trump rally?So we don't hold events because of some punks?
I live here. Race relations are good. I just got done working out & there was a black kid & a white kid hanging together, cutting up. It's just a snapshot of what's going on here.
Now, if you want to peacefully protest, you're more than welcome. As a rule, people tend not to put up with nonsense here. It doesn't matter if you're white, black, or brown (& we have quite a large Latino demographic).
There could be some ugliness with tensions so high, but there's idiots on both sides. As far as rioting, I can't think of a worse place to do it in.
I don't know the answer to that question, but LEO aren't going to be the only ones responding to violence (if it gets bad enough). You have to remember that.My guess is there were be tons of protesters and tons of counterprotesters. A lot from out of town of course. No way the Tulsa police can handle this. Do we call up the guard for a Trump rally?
Which would make it worse.I don't know the answer to that question, but LEO aren't going to be the only ones responding to violence (if it gets bad enough). You have to remember that.
I'm simply explaining our culture. Riots can be deadly. A bunch of people have been killed lately. People will protect themselves & others here.Which would make it worse.
Exactly. Cooler heads should prevail by canceling.I'm simply explaining our culture. Riots can be deadly. A bunch of people have been killed lately. People will protect themselves & others here.
We had armed citizens show up during the few skirmishes we did have & nobody got hurt. I know it's shocking to some. I get it. Just like the incident in Broken Arrow (Tulsa's largest suburb) a few years ago. Several people broke into a house all masked up with gloves on. The homeowner used an AR to stop the threat. A few days later there were some stories popping up from outrage groups saying how terrible it was a 16/17/18-year old got killed. You have be ####### kidding me. Yes, it was terrible, but they made very poor life-altering decisions.
Hopefully, CNN & others don't try to fan the flames. It would be a REALLY bad idea. Nobody wants that here. Hopefully, cooler heads prevail.
Just how much do you want to be affected by the criminal element?Exactly. Cooler heads should prevail by canceling.
Well, I think you’re misreading this whole situation. Time will tell. Hopefully they cancel it.Just how much do you want to be affected by the criminal element?
For me, not much.
If you really believed this, then you would not be encouraging "sick" commenters on Facebook to show up at the rally to "see how that works out".Just how much do you want to be affected by the criminal element?
For me, not much.
BTW, saw some pretty sick comments on Facebook last night. People pretty much fanning the flames for the Tulsa trip.
I didn't know any of these people, but the current culture is getting out of hand. I'm just disappointed in all this horse####.
Instead of fanning the flames, why don't you have enough balls to show up & act the fool instead of simply enticing it? See how that works out for you. Good luck.
I doubt it gets canceled, but it's possible.Well, I think you’re misreading this whole situation. Time will tell. Hopefully they cancel it.
Haha. I knew it. You guys are so predictable.If you really believed this, then you would not be encouraging "sick" commenters on Facebook to show up at the rally to "see how that works out".
It's very stream of conciousness and a lot of it.Just FYI, you can click the "Edit" button and then add your new thoughts to the original post. You don't need to create a new post for each thought.
Huh?It's very stream of conciousness and a lot of it.
Are you going to this?There's no way any trouble of any magnitude will be started by locals.
BLM has already had plenty of revenge for George Floyd. We simply want to hold our rally & be left alone.
BLM, please don't come here looking for trouble. You WILL find it.
I don't pray often, but I'll be doing just that Saturday before the rally (if we have it).
Revenge? Is that what you think the protests are about? I didn't see anyone who participated in the marches here in L.A. holding up a sign saying "Revenge for George Floyd" - people were calling for justice, but that is not the same thing as revenge.There's no way any trouble of any magnitude will be started by locals.
BLM has already had plenty of revenge for George Floyd. We simply want to hold our rally & be left alone.
BLM, please don't come here looking for trouble. You WILL find it.
I don't pray often, but I'll be doing just that Saturday before the rally (if we have it).
Not really. It makes sense to put some thought into a response first and makes for easier reading. If you hit send and immediately want to clarify something, just edit it. The way you are posting ends up being very volumonious and, combined with those responding to you, really fills up the page. It makes it harder to find the actual news and updates in a thread.Huh?
Guys, I'm trying to do several things here. If my thoughts are more than a few minutes apart, it makes sense to make a new post, correct? Otherwise, the people in the thread don't get the notification.
The same thing happens when I quote other posts in a short timeframe.
I was thinking of going before it was rescheduled. One reason is I simply want to experience a political rally.Are you going to this?
If so, have you already signed the release waiver to get tickets? Will you have guests that you also are signing the release for?
And will you be a masked man?
I do not think that's what the protests are about, but that's what kicked it off.Revenge? Is that what you think the protests are about? I didn't see anyone who participated in the marches here in L.A. holding up a sign saying "Revenge for George Floyd" - people were calling for justice, but that is not the same thing as revenge.
Except the violence is not coming the BLM folks or the people who organized or participated in these protests, they have peaceful for the most part. The looting and rioting is from a criminal element trying to take advantage of the situation.I do not think that's what the protests are about, but that's what kicked it off.
The act has been revenged long ago. We get it. Stop the violence & canceling.
Well, I get it, but one problem is you may not just be liking what you're hearing. You wouldn't be board-copping a lib.Not really. It makes sense to put some thought into a response first and makes for easier reading. If you hit send and immediately want to clarify something, just edit it. The way you are posting ends up being very volumonious and, combined with those responding to you, really fills up the page. It makes it harder to find the actual news and updates in a thread.
I'm not trying to be overly critical, just a suggestion.
Pretty sure anyone making half the posts in almost every active thread would be getting some feedback.Well, I get it, but one problem is you may not just be liking what you're hearing. You wouldn't be board-copping a lib.
If my thoughts are more than I few minutes apart & we're in an active discussion, why not post? It doesn't hurt anyone.
I'm doing my best here, but I have to run soon, anyway.
Haha. Violence not coming from BLM? Riiiiiight.Except the violence is not coming the BLM folks or the people who organized or participated in these protests, they have peaceful for the most part. The looting and rioting is from a criminal element trying to take advantage of the situation.
Like I said, hits close to home (literally).Pretty sure anyone making half the posts in almost every active thread would be getting some feedback.
No, not when you are making up stuff about BLM, like instigating violence.Haha. Violence not coming from BLM? Riiiiiight.
They're protesting & getting violent, not to mention the canceling.
I've broached this before...if we can't have an honest discussion, then it's not going to be fruitful.
BTW, I'm in maybe two threads with any kind of consistent posting right now.Pretty sure anyone making half the posts in almost every active thread would be getting some feedback.
You can't be serious.No, not when you are making up stuff about BLM, like instigating violence.
Plenty of examples of BLM going wrong causing violence. Their forte is looting for free stuff tho.Haha. Violence not coming from BLM? Riiiiiight.
They're protesting & getting violent, not to mention the canceling.
I've broached this before...if we can't have an honest discussion, then it's not going to be fruitful.
Do you have any actual proof that BLM is responsible for any of the rioting or looting that has occurred? I understand that is a talking point on the right, but I have seen no evidence of that as far as BLM is concerned.You can't be serious.
No way.
Please provide a link to some actual proof of this, not just parroting that they are "committing violent acts & canceling" (whatever that means).BLM is a movement. They have no leadership (which is a mistake). They're committing violent acts & canceling.
Unfortunately, it's made up of quite a few punks to go along with a lot good people.
Like I've been saying from the start, this movement is making some huge mistakes. They had an absolute PERFECT opp to get their message across with the disgusting Floyd murder & do it the right way. They had everyone's attention from the start.
It's a shame.
Yeah, I like discussion, but I'm not going to beat my head against the wall.Plenty of photos of bad hombres with BLM shirts carrying stuff out of Target.
Too easy.Do you have any actual proof that BLM is responsible for any of the rioting or looting that has occurred? I understand that is a talking point on the right, but I have seen no evidence of that as far as BLM is concerned.