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No, I think he is on to something. Republicans are trotting out all these folks in an effort to get them in a lie, not about security concerns or failing to act quickly enough, but about approved talking points 5 days later. But yes, they have evidence of Obama and friends watching in play out on the big screen eating popcorn and doing nothing. I guess they are just waiting for Obama's reelection to bring the evidence to light.
its not even that complicated. you can go back to like page 3 or 4 of this thread and find a link i posted on Sep 13th that this was a terrorist attack, well before Susan Rice came out and claimed it was a youtube video. I'm just a dude with an internet connection and some knowledge of terrorism, certainly not an expert but its an interest. So if i could figure it out in 48 hours, i'm pretty sure the admin figured it out well before me. And that's the problem, why did the admin lie? I mean it doesn't make sense to a lot of people that the admin would like about the cause of this, and why they continue to lie about details that have been reported. Obama didn't watch the video, he was asleep. Yeah, that's been reported also.This is one of those events where being a lib or a con shouldn't really matter, the facts of the case are just not good all around, its a mess.
I doubt the security camera video was streaming live to the White House. It was probably video footage they got from the scene. As far as the drones, it remains to be seen what they saw and still doesn't back up the whole, sat there and did nothing. If you read the rest of your article this is what it says
Call me crazy but if they just saw evidence of what you allege, I doubt their concern would still be with the talking points.
Mission Accomplished
There was no "real-time" feed of the attack as it was happening.
not at the beginning of the attack (first wave when they set the consulate on fire) but they had the drone in position within an hour or so providing real time video from that point forward. They watched the 2nd attack when the ex-seals were killed.
I would guess that some people would say that, by then he'd also be in a much more defensible position both morally and politically.....
They had video from the drone and real-time telephone reports from the CIA agents. I can't comment on the clarity of the drone video, but we gave seen some decent drone video in the [ast on different occasions...
Why do you dismiss everything he posts including credible links? What are you afraid of? That's not the attributes of a good University President.
He's not being serious. It's his Frank Drebin/fireworks factory impersonation. It's good shtick!'Ministry of Pain said:
???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
Is anybody supposed to care what Rand Paul would have done if he was President? Talk about condescending upward.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
vast right wing conspiracy?
That isn't the worst part. The worst part is in 2011 he proposed a budget that cut spending on the Dept of State by 20 billion dollars. Their core budget is 43 billion. So he proposed cutting their budget in half. I am assuming that would affect the security he is now so suddenly concerned about. ####### teabagger hypocrite.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
Get er, Rand.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
how is that the worst tragedy since 9/11? Its not even close to the worst tragedy since.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
Apparently 20 dead kids doesn't register on his tragedy meter.how is that the worst tragedy since 9/11? Its not even close to the worst tragedy since.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
He even said it twice.how is that the worst tragedy since 9/11? Its not even close to the worst tragedy since.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
Wow that's awesome.Hillary has some balls to get #####y today.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
Casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan apparently don't count either.He even said it twice.how is that the worst tragedy since 9/11? Its not even close to the worst tragedy since.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
or 1800+ dead in Katrina.He even said it twice.how is that the worst tragedy since 9/11? Its not even close to the worst tragedy since.I shouldn't be surprised at the politicization of these kinds of hearings, but Paul is basically saying Hillary has blood on her hands: “I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving, you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post.”He added, “It’s a failure of leadership” which cost the Americans in Benghazi their lives. “I think it’s good that you’re accepting responsibility-- because no one else is.”???Rand Paul can go to hell. #### that guy.
I am not a Hillary fan, I would never vote for he. That being said I wish I saw more of this sort of emotions from our leaders.
I am not a Hillary fan, I would never vote for her. That being said I think she is an incompetent who was completely unqualified for the job; today's performance just solidifies that for me.'Fennis said:
Shocker.
I do to think anyone should be surprised here, I have not hidden my disdain for Sec. Clinton's actions and inactions; of course that doesn't make me right but it certainly does not make me wrong either.
I can't wait for something to happen and our state department waits a month to tell Congress so they can get it right. Then we'll have a Congressional hearing on why it took so long. Just hope Republicans are never wrong in any of their investigations.
I certainly hope you read some of the 1.4 million cables you receive or is that number so vast that you don't read any of them? Exactly what cable was Mrs. Clinton reading that was so important that she ignored multiple requests from an Ambassador concerning his security, in a rather tumultuous country that just executed its leadership? The tone of your reply makes me laugh and it is no wonder that you see no problem with her actions.
Did she state this somewhere?
I would have countered with, "well, if you've seen The Marine, starring wrassling star John Cena, only one Marine could have really made a big difference. He wouldn't have needed a stinking marine house to eff ish up."
What did she say BST? You are correct she said she didn't see them, how lawyerly of her. In much the same vain as SportHenry's 1.4 million messages; what was she reading; I assume the State Department's computers filter out viAAgraA ads. I know she said she was busy saving lives, hmmm....that is an interesting answer considering what happened. Listening to her get indignant, and question the question, is laughable. She decided to own this problem, and wants to be lauded with praise as her role as Secretary, but she (as usual) does not want to hold any responsibility for her actions, or lack there of. It is also interesting that she distanced herself quite a bit from Rice's statements, implying that there is an issue there, then at the same time downplays her similar actions. So to get back to your question of" did she state she ignored them?" Of course not, her slimy lawyer ways would never let her admit culpability, even if it was the case; instead she acts like not seeing them is a defensible act. I would hope that multiple requests from an Ambassador (you know, a pretty important position), would be able to get the ear of his boss. Maybe she should keep hanging out in South America, knocking back shots and dancing, showing all her important actions that allowed her to overlook multiple requests for security measures.
ptk is right. This line of defense is laughable. It's not like this happened in some random country, this was one of the hottest hot spots in the world, and following the military action, I would expect it to be one of the few closely monitored situations.Not to mention that there had already been some attacks and the Brits already pulled their people.
that this attack was a protest against a youtube video gone bad, as opposed to a coordinated attack (beacuse protesters always bring mortar guns and heavy artillery to a demonstartion).What was the youtube lie?
