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U2 - Community rankings - FIN - #4 Sunday Bloody Sunday, #3 - One, #2 - Bad, #1 - Where the Streets Have No Name -Spotify links, thanks to Krista4 (2 Viewers)

The Fly—24. It was the most jarring U2 song I’d heard to that point (until Numb). Still a favorite obviously.

BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)

A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
 
Homecoming = 24. It just soars and offers all the warmth your ears could need. Great album opener.

This is a perfect way to describe it.

After ranking this between #16 and #19 on every list I made, it ended up on my final ranking at...#11. I don't know. I actively disagree with many of my own rankings. But in addition to the "soaring," I especially enjoy the drums on this one.
 
BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)
Be careful GB, thems fighting words round these parts.
In the original rankings, 2 of the 4 - myself included, didnt like this song. It skewed the rankings to mid 50s.

This time around the masses have spoken and placed it top 20. Probably right in the canon of U2 songs. Doesnt mean I have to like it.
A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
Good stuff. Id assume this song is more about memories than appreciation of the song itself. I guess they go hand in hand.

This album always reminds me of the band Berlin. What? How?
Me and a friend both went into the record store to essentially buy one of our earlier adult musical choices. I was deciding between Unforgettable Fire and Berlins Love Life. I wasnt immune to buying stuff at random and UF wouldnt have been an odd choice at the time. Id liked New Years Day and Gloria, but hadnt seen or heard Under a Blood Red Sky Yet

He desperately wanted UF after raving about War. I was still ambivalent, but after flogging The Metro, Sex...I’m A and Masquerade. Particularly The Metro, I was only too happy to get the new Berlin LP and listen to his UF copy later.

Next day at school everyone was congratulating him on his purchase and how cool it was that he got the new U2 LP. I got the by now accustomed “what a weirdo” stares when i stated my purchase. He was the king of the Library as the Librarian let us use a room to play music in. About 10 of us were listening to UF during lunch break. No one wanted to listen to Berlins Love Life. Oh well.

Live Aid and The Joshua Tree were my full turning point, after UABRS and UF had opened the door.
 
Wide Awake in America was released two months before Live Aid (and had nothing to do with America . . . the live tracks and studio tracks were recorded in the UK).

New and old fans zeroed in on the live version of Bad (an enormous improvement over the studio version). Homecoming got a bump since it was on the same EP. TUF certainly broadened the band’s horizons musically and lyrically.

IMO, Homecoming has far more depth than most of the earlier U2 catalog. More musical range, texture, subtle, and a mosaic of sound we hadn’t heard before. Bono was more emotive without screaming or shouting compared to early vocals that he tried to emphasize. TUF was a step up in musicianship from War (even though overall it wasn’t as popular).

I find it a little odd that a lot of people like songs on TUF but overall it wasn’t a huge seller. I remember buying the album when it first came out and loving it. I thought for sure the band would go to superstar status off of it . . . but that didn’t happen until TJT. TUF certainly laid the groundwork and foundation for the success of Joshua Tree.
I think the Wide Awake in America thing broke through in a way that Unforgettable Fire didnt. Maybe @Anarchy99 or @Nemesis might have more on that.
U2’s profile in the US was raised tremendously after Live Aid. I can’t think of a band that got a bigger boost from playing there than they did.

Wide Awake was the first thing they released after their appearance there.
Thanks both. That timeline makes sense. Especially if Bad was on Wide Awake.
Yep. The Wide Awake version of Bad started getting major play on FM stations soon after Live Aid. The TUF version was rarely ever on the radio in my experience.
 
Homecoming = 24. It just soars and offers all the warmth your ears could need. Great album opener.

This is a perfect way to describe it.

After ranking this between #16 and #19 on every list I made, it ended up on my final ranking at...#11. I don't know. I actively disagree with many of my own rankings. But in addition to the "soaring," I especially enjoy the drums on this one.
Yes, it’s one of Larry’s most memorable drum parts and makes use of his martial-drumming background.
 
BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)
Be careful GB, thems fighting words round these parts.
In the original rankings, 2 of the 4 - myself included, didnt like this song. It skewed the rankings to mid 50s.

This time around the masses have spoken and placed it top 20. Probably right in the canon of U2 songs. Doesnt mean I have to like it.
A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
Good stuff. Id assume this song is more about memories than appreciation of the song itself. I guess they go hand in hand.

This album always reminds me of the band Berlin. What? How?
Me and a friend both went into the record store to essentially buy one of our earlier adult musical choices. I was deciding between Unforgettable Fire and Berlins Love Life. I wasnt immune to buying stuff at random and UF wouldnt have been an odd choice at the time. Id liked New Years Day and Gloria, but hadnt seen or heard Under a Blood Red Sky Yet

He desperately wanted UF after raving about War. I was still ambivalent, but after flogging The Metro, Sex...I’m A and Masquerade. Particularly The Metro, I was only too happy to get the new Berlin LP and listen to his UF copy later.

Next day at school everyone was congratulating him on his purchase and how cool it was that he got the new U2 LP. I got the by now accustomed “what a weirdo” stares when i stated my purchase. He was the king of the Library as the Librarian let us use a room to play music in. About 10 of us were listening to UF during lunch break. No one wanted to listen to Berlins Love Life. Oh well.

Live Aid and The Joshua Tree were my full turning point, after UABRS and UF had opened the door.
Some of my high school friends were majorly into that Berlin record, so you wouldn’t have been quite so ostracized if you’d grown up with me. :laugh:
 
BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)
Be careful GB, thems fighting words round these parts.
In the original rankings, 2 of the 4 - myself included, didnt like this song. It skewed the rankings to mid 50s.

This time around the masses have spoken and placed it top 20. Probably right in the canon of U2 songs. Doesnt mean I have to like it.
A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
Good stuff. Id assume this song is more about memories than appreciation of the song itself. I guess they go hand in hand.

This album always reminds me of the band Berlin. What? How?
Me and a friend both went into the record store to essentially buy one of our earlier adult musical choices. I was deciding between Unforgettable Fire and Berlins Love Life. I wasnt immune to buying stuff at random and UF wouldnt have been an odd choice at the time. Id liked New Years Day and Gloria, but hadnt seen or heard Under a Blood Red Sky Yet

He desperately wanted UF after raving about War. I was still ambivalent, but after flogging The Metro, Sex...I’m A and Masquerade. Particularly The Metro, I was only too happy to get the new Berlin LP and listen to his UF copy later.

Next day at school everyone was congratulating him on his purchase and how cool it was that he got the new U2 LP. I got the by now accustomed “what a weirdo” stares when i stated my purchase. He was the king of the Library as the Librarian let us use a room to play music in. About 10 of us were listening to UF during lunch break. No one wanted to listen to Berlins Love Life. Oh well.

Live Aid and The Joshua Tree were my full turning point, after UABRS and UF had opened the door.
Love all of this.

BTBS would probably land in my 50-75 range.

The only thing you have wrong is that my ranking of A Sort of Homecoming is totally based on the song, not memories or nostalgia. I think it’s beautiful and hits hard every time I hear it. Still.
 
I ranked A Sort of Homecoming #35. I have 6 songs from TUF ranked in my Top 50, and this one is the lowest. I love the song, but just not as much as 5 others from the album.
Similar. Huge fan of TUF. I have Sort of Homecoming at 45. The spreadsheet that I used to create the mess of rankings that I sent to JML was on my work laptop and I can't find it in the transition to my new job. So, not quite sure where Sort of Homecoming sits in my Unforg Fire rankings, but probably similar.
I enjoy the song. It doesn't have the staying power as other songs on the album. Hard to hate, but it's not a song that I currently love.
 
Ultraviolet, Gloria and The Fly were in the same tier for me. Like them all. Ultraviolet is my favorite of those and is a solid A.
Gloria is another song that sticks out for the live version. I've always been a fan of the studio version of anything. (Peter Frampton is probably the only exception.) While it probably has to do with getting Live Under A Blood Red Sky album first before October album, but I vastly prefer the live version of Gloria. Gloria has the biggest jump of any of the Blood Red Sky songs. "40" also gets a big bump, but I always think of my live experiences and not Under A Blood Red Sky when I hear that.
 
I’m at 7 on A Sort of Homecoming. The Unforgettable Fire is probably my favorite U2 album. It’s the first one I purchased immediately upon release. When A Sort of Homecoming begins, a certain peace comes over me. Bono sings beautifully on this one, and I’ll sing along every time. I am coming home.
If pressed, I’d take The Unforgettable Fire to my desert island of U2 albums.
 
BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)
Be careful GB, thems fighting words round these parts.
In the original rankings, 2 of the 4 - myself included, didnt like this song. It skewed the rankings to mid 50s.

This time around the masses have spoken and placed it top 20. Probably right in the canon of U2 songs. Doesnt mean I have to like it.
A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
Good stuff. Id assume this song is more about memories than appreciation of the song itself. I guess they go hand in hand.

This album always reminds me of the band Berlin. What? How?
Me and a friend both went into the record store to essentially buy one of our earlier adult musical choices. I was deciding between Unforgettable Fire and Berlins Love Life. I wasnt immune to buying stuff at random and UF wouldnt have been an odd choice at the time. Id liked New Years Day and Gloria, but hadnt seen or heard Under a Blood Red Sky Yet

He desperately wanted UF after raving about War. I was still ambivalent, but after flogging The Metro, Sex...I’m A and Masquerade. Particularly The Metro, I was only too happy to get the new Berlin LP and listen to his UF copy later.

Next day at school everyone was congratulating him on his purchase and how cool it was that he got the new U2 LP. I got the by now accustomed “what a weirdo” stares when i stated my purchase. He was the king of the Library as the Librarian let us use a room to play music in. About 10 of us were listening to UF during lunch break. No one wanted to listen to Berlins Love Life. Oh well.

Live Aid and The Joshua Tree were my full turning point, after UABRS and UF had opened the door.
Some of my high school friends were majorly into that Berlin record, so you wouldn’t have been quite so ostracized if you’d grown up with me. :laugh:
Man, that would have been awesome.
I had to deal with the “only listen to AC/DC and House of the Rising Sun” crowd, the Aussie Pub rock crowd and the Avante garde crowd who thought as soon as a band had a hit they had sold out. Im sure most of those guys would have thought Pride was a sellout. My and my developing synth pop/new wave love would have to wait to find similar tastes.
I ranked A Sort of Homecoming #35. I have 6 songs from TUF ranked in my Top 50, and this one is the lowest. I love the song, but just not as much as 5 others from the album.
Similar. Huge fan of TUF. I have Sort of Homecoming at 45. The spreadsheet that I used to create the mess of rankings that I sent to JML was on my work laptop and I can't find it in the transition to my new job. So, not quite sure where Sort of Homecoming sits in my Unforg Fire rankings, but probably similar.
I enjoy the song. It doesn't have the staying power as other songs on the album. Hard to hate, but it's not a song that I currently love.
If you want to see your rankings, just pm me and i will send them back to you.
 
I won’t do the #17 now. Soon.
It will be our first #1 ranked song.
Only 9 songs attracted a #1 ranking
#17, #15, #11, #8, #7, #6, #3, #2 and #1.

Unbelievably the number 4 and 5 ranked songs overall do not have a #1 ranking associated to them.

We still have 4 songs that were outside the top 20 last time that jump in. One also comes in from outside the top 30.
The first #1 song comes from outside the top 20 last time.
 
BTBS - not ranked (only ranked my top 40)
Be careful GB, thems fighting words round these parts.
In the original rankings, 2 of the 4 - myself included, didnt like this song. It skewed the rankings to mid 50s.

This time around the masses have spoken and placed it top 20. Probably right in the canon of U2 songs. Doesnt mean I have to like it.
A Sort of Homecoming - 6
Probably actually higher. One of my favorites. I had one of those 5’ x 5’ flag banners of the album cover of Unforgettable Fire hanging in my freshman dorm room in August, 1985. I’d arrived a few hours before my new roommate. Luckily he was also a huge U2 fan. We’re still good friends 37 years later.
Good stuff. Id assume this song is more about memories than appreciation of the song itself. I guess they go hand in hand.

This album always reminds me of the band Berlin. What? How?
Me and a friend both went into the record store to essentially buy one of our earlier adult musical choices. I was deciding between Unforgettable Fire and Berlins Love Life. I wasnt immune to buying stuff at random and UF wouldnt have been an odd choice at the time. Id liked New Years Day and Gloria, but hadnt seen or heard Under a Blood Red Sky Yet

He desperately wanted UF after raving about War. I was still ambivalent, but after flogging The Metro, Sex...I’m A and Masquerade. Particularly The Metro, I was only too happy to get the new Berlin LP and listen to his UF copy later.

Next day at school everyone was congratulating him on his purchase and how cool it was that he got the new U2 LP. I got the by now accustomed “what a weirdo” stares when i stated my purchase. He was the king of the Library as the Librarian let us use a room to play music in. About 10 of us were listening to UF during lunch break. No one wanted to listen to Berlins Love Life. Oh well.

Live Aid and The Joshua Tree were my full turning point, after UABRS and UF had opened the door.
Some of my high school friends were majorly into that Berlin record, so you wouldn’t have been quite so ostracized if you’d grown up with me. :laugh:
Man, that would have been awesome.
I had to deal with the “only listen to AC/DC and House of the Rising Sun” crowd, the Aussie Pub rock crowd and the Avante garde crowd who thought as soon as a band had a hit they had sold out. Im sure most of those guys would have thought Pride was a sellout. My and my developing synth pop/new wave love would have to wait to find similar tastes.
I ranked A Sort of Homecoming #35. I have 6 songs from TUF ranked in my Top 50, and this one is the lowest. I love the song, but just not as much as 5 others from the album.
Similar. Huge fan of TUF. I have Sort of Homecoming at 45. The spreadsheet that I used to create the mess of rankings that I sent to JML was on my work laptop and I can't find it in the transition to my new job. So, not quite sure where Sort of Homecoming sits in my Unforg Fire rankings, but probably similar.
I enjoy the song. It doesn't have the staying power as other songs on the album. Hard to hate, but it's not a song that I currently love.
If you want to see your rankings, just pm me and i will send them back to you.
I have the rankings. Just not the nerdy XLS book with weighted average album rankings and probably some R-squared bull#### in there too.
 
(37) - 17 - Until the End of the World

Vulture.com ranking and comment -40/218 - Written for the most underrated Wim Wenders film, “Until the End of the World” is the sound of the snake slithering up the tree in the Garden of Eden after getting Eve to take a bite of the apple. It is a conversation between Jesus and Judas. It is about the sharpest, deepest betrayal, but the twist comes at the end: “I reached out for the one I tried to destroy / You, you said you’d wait / Till the end of the world.” Ultimately, forgiveness triumphs. The noise behind the lyrics is enormous and overpowering, embodying the pain of disloyalty, both for the person committing the bad act and the one suffering from it.

Original Comment - Top class album track. Wouldn’t it be great if all album tracks had this quality. The musicianship and production on this is just a class above.

Total Points - 1726.85

Rankers - 32

Average Points per rank - 53.75 (Approximately a 23rd rank).

Ranks - 21st on average points per ranker

Highest Rank - 1

Lowest Rank - 77

Previous Rank - 56-19

Special Version Requested - None

Ranking Comments - Our first #1 is somewhat of a surprise and it leaps up an impressive 20 spots. The Fly, Ultraviolet, So Cruel and Acrobat, Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horse and Love is Blindness all dropped, some noticeably. This one has 5 others ranked 7 or 8 and then 12 people had it between 12 and 21. Only 2 had it outside their top 50
 
Until = 34

For me, the best part is Edge’s top-notch riffing. But my best memory of it has nothing to do with that. In college, toward the end of a party during which everyone had had quite a lot to drink, this song came on, and one of my friends who is a practicing Christian started telling me how incredible the song was and explained all the Biblical references in it. It was one of those “only in college” moments.
 
I ranked this song #8. It is my second favorite song on Achtung Baby, and sometimes it is my favorite. I love the intro to it, especially the drums leading into the guitar riff. I also dig the guitar solo, the music, the lyrics, and the buildup of the music at the conclusion, which the drums stand out to me again, but differently from the intro. This is a song I like to play loud.
 
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I had End Of The Word at 16 and third highest on AB. I think I lowered my rankings for many of the AB songs some from the first set of rankings. IMO, the album is so good that the songs all get bonus points for being on that album. But when I listened to all the songs just as songs and not hearing them in sequence on albums, they didn't quite have the same impact for me. I mentioned this effect before. If we randomly swapped a song from one album to another, we might have a completely different opinion. If UTEOTW was on Songs of Experience and Get Out Of Your Own Way was on AB, maybe GOOYOW would be Top 20 and UTEOTW would have ranked 75th.
 
I had End Of The Word at 16 and third highest on AB. I think I lowered my rankings for many of the AB songs some from the first set of rankings. IMO, the album is so good that the songs all get bonus points for being on that album. But when I listened to all the songs just as songs and not hearing them in sequence on albums, they didn't quite have the same impact for me. I mentioned this effect before. If we randomly swapped a song from one album to another, we might have a completely different opinion. If UTEOTW was on Songs of Experience and Get Out Of Your Own Way was on AB, maybe GOOYOW would be Top 20 and UTEOTW would have ranked 75th.
I'm not impacted by this effect that impacts you, but companion songs I like being beside each other in rankings, and even with that I'd rather them be ranked as one whole song. Until the End of the World would still be in my top 10 regardless of what album it came off of or its place on an album. I don't even remember the song sequence on AB. UTEOTW stands alone in its awesomeness for me.
 
Until the End of the World was my lowest-ranking song remaining, but at a very respectable #36. The guitar work is so...shimmery. I love that the song seems to revolve around the guitar, with Bono's languorous vocal providing a perfect complement to the shimmery urgency of the guitar. I also find the bass work especially compelling. The downside of the song to me is the lyrics, but I'm not religious.

(Usual note to APK wife: U2 is a Christian band!)
 
Until the End of the World was my lowest-ranking song remaining, but at a very respectable #36. The guitar work is so...shimmery. I love that the song seems to revolve around the guitar, with Bono's languorous vocal providing a perfect complement to the shimmery urgency of the guitar. I also find the bass work especially compelling. The downside of the song to me is the lyrics, but I'm not religious.

(Usual note to APK wife: U2 is a Christian band!)
I am not a religious person either but this is still my favorite song on the album. For many of the reasons you reference here.
 
(25) - 16 - The Unforgettable Fire
25-16 - The Unforgettable Fire Remastered 2009

Vulture.com ranking and comment - U2’s fourth record was recorded in a round gothic ballroom at Slane Castle, where the band had rehearsed and fell in love with the acoustics. (“The sound is magnificent,” Bono said of the space in 2006. “If Phil Spector was going to lie in state, it would be here.”) When you listen to the album’s title track, you can feel all of this, as well as the influence of Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois, who took over the board this time out. It is a vast, expressive piece that bears no resemblance to traditional verse-chorus-verse rock or pop songwriting from a vocal melody standpoint. It’s one of those songs that you can absolutely feel, heart in your throat or in the pit of your stomach, but have no idea what it’s actually about. Bono himself admits that the lyrics are a sketch, but there is a strong sense of love lost and love longed for: “Stay this time,” “Come and take me away,” “Save your love / don’t push me too far.” It is an astonishing composition.

Original Comment - Introspective. The change in producer reaps rewards and gets depths out of the band that Lillywhite didn’t. I think this may be one of the songs that overachieves in the rankings. The #5 ranking pushes it higher than I would have expected, although the #91 is an anchor that holds it down.

Total Points - 1779

Rankers - 32

Average Points per rank - 55.59 (Approximately a 17th rank).

Ranks - 19th on average points per ranker

Highest Rank - 2

Lowest Rank - 95

Previous Rank - 25-16

Special Version Requested - 25-16 - The Unforgettable Fire Remastered 2009

Ranking Comments - As discussed its our first one with 10 top 10 entries. Very heavily ranked in the 11-20 area as well. I do think the 2 UF tracks we have seen recently are overrated, but clearly top 50 material. I wonder how many of us had them side by side?
 
Now we reach the top 15. 8 tracks from the big 2 albums, 7 from the rest.
The numbers will even out again. Will it be Bullet the Blue Sky? Its become a force of habit lol.

This track has a #1 ranking attached to it. In fact its top rankings are interesing.
#1, #2, #3, #4, #8, #9, #10, #11 and then the first duplicate ranking of #11. The only thing close to a bingo is #18 where we have 3 rankings for this one.
 
(25) - 16 - The Unforgettable Fire
25-16 - The Unforgettable Fire Remastered 2009

Vulture.com ranking and comment - U2’s fourth record was recorded in a round gothic ballroom at Slane Castle, where the band had rehearsed and fell in love with the acoustics. (“The sound is magnificent,” Bono said of the space in 2006. “If Phil Spector was going to lie in state, it would be here.”) When you listen to the album’s title track, you can feel all of this, as well as the influence of Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois, who took over the board this time out. It is a vast, expressive piece that bears no resemblance to traditional verse-chorus-verse rock or pop songwriting from a vocal melody standpoint. It’s one of those songs that you can absolutely feel, heart in your throat or in the pit of your stomach, but have no idea what it’s actually about. Bono himself admits that the lyrics are a sketch, but there is a strong sense of love lost and love longed for: “Stay this time,” “Come and take me away,” “Save your love / don’t push me too far.” It is an astonishing composition.
What was Vulture's ranking?

TUF the song = 53. It's nice but there are others (52, specifically) that I like better. Melody is excellent, lyrics are good, but I find the arrangement a little milquetoast.
 
I ranked this song #15. My favorite part of the song is the piano riff that drives the reoccurring melody that I love. For example when Bono sings "walk on by, walk on through, so sad to besiege your love so head-on, stay this time, stay tonight in a lie, I'm only asking, but I think you know, etc. " I don't know if it is considered the chorus or not, but I love the sound. This album came out my freshman year in college, and I remember walking into a bar (Pantana Bobs), and this song was playing, and when it hit the piano/melody/chorus parts it sent chills through my body. It still does.
 
I had TUF at 29 and 4th favorite on the album. It fits with the more ethereal, broader sound that comes through on the rest of the album and certainly has flourishes of the ambient Brian Eno sound. I tend to agree with Pip in that I find the overall mix and presentation a little bland. I also think Bono went a skosh over the top in the falsetto toward the end.
 
I had TUF at 29 and 4th favorite on the album. It fits with the more ethereal, broader sound that comes through on the rest of the album and certainly has flourishes of the ambient Brian Eno sound. I tend to agree with Pip in that I find the overall mix and presentation a little bland. I also think Bono went a skosh over the top in the falsetto toward the end.
TUF was my #8 and third favorite from the album.
I love that ethereal quality of the song..
 
TUF is my #5 overall and my top ranked song from that album. Like a pint of Guinness, it always meets me where I'm at and then proceeds to make my situation better. Not much for me to dissect on this one - there's no hook, no riff, no harmonies to key on. It just sets a vibe that grabs ya and I'm in for the ride every time.
 
19 BTBS About the US's foreign policy decisions in Central/South America......Song was inspired when Bono & Ali traveled to Nicaragua & EL Salvador and witnessed the civil war firsthand & F-16 fighter planes.
Music took awhile to develop into the final product, and included producers Lanois, Eno, and even Lilywhite. It took a massive step forward when they applied the "heavy effects" trying to emulate the drum sounds of John Bonham.
The song was never released as a JT single....This was issued as the B-side of the "In God's Country" single.

18 Sort of Homecoming Bono's vocals for the song were re-recorded at the last minute. The band had worked overnight to finish TUF by 8 a.m. on the final day of the recording sessions so producer Daniel Lanois could deliver the tapes for mastering. As they listened back to the song, Bono said that he wanted to record another take of his vocals. With his taxi to the airport waiting outside, Lanois relented & cued up the tapes, allowing Bono 1 final take.

17 End of the World Lyrics were originally inspired by a brief falling out that Bono & Edge had......but ultimately written about a conversation between Jesus Christ & Judas at The Last Supper.
Bono had difficulty finding a key he could sing in for the recording.........but in concert, the song has always been played in a slightly higher key.

16 Unforgettable Fire TUF (The Song) was written AFTER U2 decided to name the album TUF.
Did you know: TUF was the 1st single U2 released that reached #1 in the Irish Charts. The previous 3 singles, “NYD,” “2 Hearts" & “Pride” had all peaked at #2.
Nov 11, 1987 - Denver, CO Outtake footage that didn't make it into the R&H movie
 
  • Medical - I've already got a fusion in my neck (C4, 5, & 6)......& been having major problems w other areas. 3 MRIs in the last 6 mths & 6 surgical injections. Both arms have gone numb at different times. Stress from Work not helping.
  • 4 yrs ago, my Neurosurgeon said i had herniated C7 & needed surgery to fuse it too. Now, same Neurosurgeon is NOT convinced on what is causing this as MRIs aren't conclusive.
    I am still convinced it's C7 (or Thoracic Outlet Syndrome). So I am heading to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville in early July. Not leaving there until they come up w a plan.
  • Finally got doctor to approve an FMLA form to document/protect myself, but it doesn't register w German boss.
So i guess it's about time that I provided an update in here:
  • The post above was from early JUNE......and I was frustrated & in discomfort
  • Since then I've undergone another 3 surgical injections. (That makes 8 in total for the Year!)
  • 2 of them were very helpful and reduced my symptoms.......they seem to be working. (the good news is that I can repeat them again next year, if needed)
  • in JULY/AUG, I went to Mayo clinic 3 times. Let me tell you.....they get their #$%& done. You show up & they scheduled 3 scans/tests that SAME DAY & you get the results on your phone via their app within an hr. (that alone would have taken mths to schedule & get done on my own)
  • They've ruled out some things, but I think the last injection provided the exact spot of the problem (but I need to talk w/ the doctor to confirm next month)
So while i'm not totally out of the woods yet, I've feel like the first time I'm in a little more CONTROL of it.......rather than, IT CONTROLLING ME.

I do have to say that I have enjoyed having this "distraction" of a message board thread & hearing the different takes or personal meanings to the songs.
@JML: Back to the countdown with the Top 15!
 
I ranked this song #15. My favorite part of the song is the piano riff that drives the reoccurring melody that I love. For example when Bono sings "walk on by, walk on through, so sad to besiege your love so head-on, stay this time, stay tonight in a lie, I'm only asking, but I think you know, etc. " I don't know if it is considered the chorus or not, but I love the sound. This album came out my freshman year in college, and I remember walking into a bar (Pantana Bobs), and this song was playing, and when it hit the piano/melody/chorus parts it sent chills through my body. It still does.

TUF is my #5 overall and my top ranked song from that album. Like a pint of Guinness, it always meets me where I'm at and then proceeds to make my situation better. Not much for me to dissect on this one - there's no hook, no riff, no harmonies to key on. It just sets a vibe that grabs ya and I'm in for the ride every time.

I initially missed the posting of this one. I had this at #17, which means that if I average my ranking with @simey's, we had a mutual bingo! I thought both of the above descriptions, along with Marco's reference to its being "ethereal," really capture everything I love about the song. As Brony said, there aren't hooks. But there's just a beautifully established mood. Of course, since I'm a sucker for strings, those take me in, too. There's something about "walk on by, walk on through" that captivates me. As simey said, the song sends chills.

(I did realize upon another listening that there is a fair amount of panting. I must have overlooked that for purposes of this ranking.)
 
  • Medical - I've already got a fusion in my neck (C4, 5, & 6)......& been having major problems w other areas. 3 MRIs in the last 6 mths & 6 surgical injections. Both arms have gone numb at different times. Stress from Work not helping.
  • 4 yrs ago, my Neurosurgeon said i had herniated C7 & needed surgery to fuse it too. Now, same Neurosurgeon is NOT convinced on what is causing this as MRIs aren't conclusive.
    I am still convinced it's C7 (or Thoracic Outlet Syndrome). So I am heading to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville in early July. Not leaving there until they come up w a plan.
  • Finally got doctor to approve an FMLA form to document/protect myself, but it doesn't register w German boss.
So i guess it's about time that I provided an update in here:
  • The post above was from early JUNE......and I was frustrated & in discomfort
  • Since then I've undergone another 3 surgical injections. (That makes 8 in total for the Year!)
  • 2 of them were very helpful and reduced my symptoms.......they seem to be working. (the good news is that I can repeat them again next year, if needed)
  • in JULY/AUG, I went to Mayo clinic 3 times. Let me tell you.....they get their #$%& done. You show up & they scheduled 3 scans/tests that SAME DAY & you get the results on your phone via their app within an hr. (that alone would have taken mths to schedule & get done on my own)
  • They've ruled out some things, but I think the last injection provided the exact spot of the problem (but I need to talk w/ the doctor to confirm next month)
So while i'm not totally out of the woods yet, I've feel like the first time I'm in a little more CONTROL of it.......rather than, IT CONTROLLING ME.

I do have to say that I have enjoyed having this "distraction" of a message board thread & hearing the different takes or personal meanings to the songs.
@JML: Back to the countdown with the Top 15!

Amazing news! So happy to hear that you've turned a corner (or several) on this.
 
  • Medical - I've already got a fusion in my neck (C4, 5, & 6)......& been having major problems w other areas. 3 MRIs in the last 6 mths & 6 surgical injections. Both arms have gone numb at different times. Stress from Work not helping.
  • 4 yrs ago, my Neurosurgeon said i had herniated C7 & needed surgery to fuse it too. Now, same Neurosurgeon is NOT convinced on what is causing this as MRIs aren't conclusive.
    I am still convinced it's C7 (or Thoracic Outlet Syndrome). So I am heading to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville in early July. Not leaving there until they come up w a plan.
  • Finally got doctor to approve an FMLA form to document/protect myself, but it doesn't register w German boss.
So i guess it's about time that I provided an update in here:
  • The post above was from early JUNE......and I was frustrated & in discomfort
  • Since then I've undergone another 3 surgical injections. (That makes 8 in total for the Year!)
  • 2 of them were very helpful and reduced my symptoms.......they seem to be working. (the good news is that I can repeat them again next year, if needed)
  • in JULY/AUG, I went to Mayo clinic 3 times. Let me tell you.....they get their #$%& done. You show up & they scheduled 3 scans/tests that SAME DAY & you get the results on your phone via their app within an hr. (that alone would have taken mths to schedule & get done on my own)
  • They've ruled out some things, but I think the last injection provided the exact spot of the problem (but I need to talk w/ the doctor to confirm next month)
So while i'm not totally out of the woods yet, I've feel like the first time I'm in a little more CONTROL of it.......rather than, IT CONTROLLING ME.

I do have to say that I have enjoyed having this "distraction" of a message board thread & hearing the different takes or personal meanings to the songs.
@JML: Back to the countdown with the Top 15!

Amazing news! So happy to hear that you've turned a corner (or several) on this.
:goodposting: If you have found the spot that relieves you of your discomfort, that is huge! The Mayo Clinic is a superb place, and they will help you find that light at the end of the tunnel. Keep believing!
 
TUF is my #5 overall and my top ranked song from that album. Like a pint of Guinness, it always meets me where I'm at and then proceeds to make my situation better. Not much for me to dissect on this one - there's no hook, no riff, no harmonies to key on. It just sets a vibe that grabs ya and I'm in for the ride every time.
I hear a piano riff, or is it not considered that? Whatever it is, it is my favorite part of the tune, and I think it carries the melody. It repeats itself throughout the song, but it is not featured at the intro. You can hear it in this. I agree this song has a vibe that grabs you.
 
  • Medical - I've already got a fusion in my neck (C4, 5, & 6)......& been having major problems w other areas. 3 MRIs in the last 6 mths & 6 surgical injections. Both arms have gone numb at different times. Stress from Work not helping.
  • 4 yrs ago, my Neurosurgeon said i had herniated C7 & needed surgery to fuse it too. Now, same Neurosurgeon is NOT convinced on what is causing this as MRIs aren't conclusive.
    I am still convinced it's C7 (or Thoracic Outlet Syndrome). So I am heading to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville in early July. Not leaving there until they come up w a plan.
  • Finally got doctor to approve an FMLA form to document/protect myself, but it doesn't register w German boss.
So i guess it's about time that I provided an update in here:
  • The post above was from early JUNE......and I was frustrated & in discomfort
  • Since then I've undergone another 3 surgical injections. (That makes 8 in total for the Year!)
  • 2 of them were very helpful and reduced my symptoms.......they seem to be working. (the good news is that I can repeat them again next year, if needed)
  • in JULY/AUG, I went to Mayo clinic 3 times. Let me tell you.....they get their #$%& done. You show up & they scheduled 3 scans/tests that SAME DAY & you get the results on your phone via their app within an hr. (that alone would have taken mths to schedule & get done on my own)
  • They've ruled out some things, but I think the last injection provided the exact spot of the problem (but I need to talk w/ the doctor to confirm next month)
So while i'm not totally out of the woods yet, I've feel like the first time I'm in a little more CONTROL of it.......rather than, IT CONTROLLING ME.

I do have to say that I have enjoyed having this "distraction" of a message board thread & hearing the different takes or personal meanings to the songs.
@JML: Back to the countdown with the Top 15!
The elite medical centers are usually worlds better than other hospitals. In her final years, our local hospitals had no idea what was going on with my mother-in-law. Finally we took her to Penn and they were so much better.
 
I ranked this song #15. My favorite part of the song is the piano riff that drives the reoccurring melody that I love. For example when Bono sings "walk on by, walk on through, so sad to besiege your love so head-on, stay this time, stay tonight in a lie, I'm only asking, but I think you know, etc. " I don't know if it is considered the chorus or not, but I love the sound. This album came out my freshman year in college, and I remember walking into a bar (Pantana Bobs), and this song was playing, and when it hit the piano/melody/chorus parts it sent chills through my body. It still does.

TUF is my #5 overall and my top ranked song from that album. Like a pint of Guinness, it always meets me where I'm at and then proceeds to make my situation better. Not much for me to dissect on this one - there's no hook, no riff, no harmonies to key on. It just sets a vibe that grabs ya and I'm in for the ride every time.

I initially missed the posting of this one. I had this at #17, which means that if I average my ranking with @simey's, we had a mutual bingo! I thought both of the above descriptions, along with Marco's reference to its being "ethereal," really capture everything I love about the song. As Brony said, there aren't hooks. But there's just a beautifully established mood. Of course, since I'm a sucker for strings, those take me in, too. There's something about "walk on by, walk on through" that captivates me. As simey said, the song sends chills.

(I did realize upon another listening that there is a fair amount of panting. I must have overlooked that for purposes of this ranking.)
So you DO like a good pant!
 
Pretty sure I had A Sort of Homecoming top 3 or 4, it's one of my favorite songs from any band. It's such a unique song to me, and when I first discovered it I was a young teen in a rough part of my life. Now I can't hear it without going back to those days, where this song represented change, nostalgia, fear of the unknown, and ultimately, hope.

Unforgettable Fire is a terrific as well, a great moody piece to evoke all kinds of emotions.

Such a soft spot for this entire album; I know Joshua Tree is technically "better," but TUF is my favorite; it feels so raw and unfiltered, and its unpolished feel is part of its allure to me.
 
TUF: I hear a piano riff, or is it not considered that? Whatever it is, it is my favorite part of the tune, & I think it carries the melody. It repeats itself throughout the song, but it is not featured at the intro. You can hear it in this. I agree this song has a vibe that grabs you.
So, listen & watch the 4 live versions that I've linked below. A couple of thoughts:
  • Piano: You can see how they do the song in concert. While most of the background piano part has to be played by someone offstage (I forget the guy's name), but in each one you see that Edge stops playing guitar & walks over to the stage keyboard to play the "main piano parts" on more than 1 occasion in the song.
  • Vocals: If you watch all 4 videos in a row, it's easy to see how Bono voice has changed & aged along the way. He sings the song a little differently now & rightfully so and to be expected. IMO, The 1987 Paris concert is indicative of him being at the top of his game vocally & is the best one to watch.
  • Strings: On TUF in concert, I don't know if they've added them offstage or just do without it completely.......maybe somebody will chime in on this.

TUF Live Versions:
1 - July 4, 1987 - Paris was released on the Live from Paris digital album. (check out the 2:20 and 4:00 min mark for Edge's keyboard part)

2 - Nov 11, 1987 - Denver, CO Outtake footage that didn't make it into the R&H movie

3 - In 2011, members of U2’s fan club were allowed to vote on 46 songs from The U2360° tour, w the 22 songs receiving the most votes to be included on a double live album called U22. TUF proved popular enough to make the final track list, & a recording from July 31, 2009 - Gothenburg, Sweden appeared on the eventual CD release.

4 - TUF was played on most 2009 360 tour setlists..........& then vanished (except once on Sep 30, 2018 - Copenhagen, Denmark's E+I tourstop)
 
TUF Live Versions:
1 - July 4, 1987 - Paris was released on the Live from Paris digital album. (check out the 2:20 and 4:00 min mark for Edge's keyboard part)
I spot Edge on keyboards! They sound so good. I see that Bono borrowed his wife's scrunchie to hold his ponytail back. He could wear her dress and still look hot. Back in the 80s when TUF album came out, Edge said that he thought this song was their best dance track.
 

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