Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
UFC wagering: no longer stuck with the old thread title. The window to change it is here! (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter AhrnCityPahnder
- Start date
modogg
Footballguy
i got a bit on Glover because of the line, and also have over 1.5 rounds. I based it on Maldonado's rock-solid chin, and I am glad he was able to have it for this fight. that was close
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Now I know what it's like to make sausage.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
If Maldonado had any take down defense, he'd have won this already.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Those Brazilian doctors are more compassionate than the American ones.
derek245583
Footballguy
I had under 1.5 rounds...
That was one brutal loss.
What a domination
That was one brutal loss.
What a domination
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Nog better KO this can.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Smart way to escape by pulling his pants down.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
JIU JITSU DOESN'T WORK!
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
pretty sure the whole reason Hermann said that was to hype the fight more. Not many people cared about Nog-Hermann, and it did a good job of bringing more attention to their fight.
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
This is going to get brutal.
modogg
Footballguy
if the line wasn't -1100 i would like to think about taking Silva. I did take under 1.5 rounds because it was +170. The way Silva lit up Griffin as quickly he did has me thinking it could go very similar. i think Bonner is more interested in making it a great fight than possibly wining by a boring wrestling match
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
I hope Bonnar can shock the world. 
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Silva a little emotional before this fight.
derek245583
Footballguy
Where is AS walking in from Columbia? Jesus
modogg
Footballguy
Rogan and Goldey seem to be saying a lot of dumb things tonight. Rogan with his over-reacting to every thing in a fight about fights being over in almost every one.
and Goldey, what a silly comment about Silva is the "spider" because of Anderson Silva. Unless he knows something that no one else knows, he needs to learn to not say dumb things because he has nothing else to say.
and Goldey, what a silly comment about Silva is the "spider" because of Anderson Silva. Unless he knows something that no one else knows, he needs to learn to not say dumb things because he has nothing else to say.
You are supposed to have an entertaining fight, not stall with take down attempts that do not have much of a chance at all
ignore the above. Still wondering why he did it, but he covered the under 1.5 rounds so it isn't as frustrating
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
It's almost like it was scripted.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Alright, can we get Silva to fight a real LHW now?
modogg
Footballguy
i have wanted to see GSP-Silva for a long time, and have always thought GSP would win that match, but I think GSP has to be a ncie saved underdog to put my money where i wanted to put it all this time
derek245583
Footballguy
He is a bad man
Pretty cool when he looked over at his corner and put his palms up like..."calm down, I got this"
Pretty cool when he looked over at his corner and put his palms up like..."calm down, I got this"
Mister Martie
Footballguy
Wow. Seemed like he realized in about 30 seconds Bonnar had no chance so he decided to humiliate him.
scoobus
Footballguy
At any weight?
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I think he'd lose to Jones and GSP. And if you ask Dale, I'm sure he'd take Diaz over Silva.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
3 submissions, 2 TKOs, 1 decision. Exciting card.
modogg
Footballguy
Silva-Jon Jones certainly would seem to be an exciting fight. Thing with MMA is anybody can be beat, jsut that some are more likely than others. With 4 oz. gloves a good shot in the right spot should be able to knock most people out. But Silva is just so slick it is really hard to see. here is who i think has a chance:Jon Jones (LHW)
GSP (WW
-both are the best chance out of the division. focusing on Middle weight since Silva said he won't leave MW anymore, there are some slim possibilities in the top 25:
1 Anderson Silva
2 Chris Weidman - possibly, young guy who is still developing but maybe
3 Chael Sonnen - nope
4 Michael Bisping - less than 5%, not sure how he can do it
5 Tim Boetsch - i would say no
6 Luke Rockhold - unsure, but i will say no
7 Mark Munoz - nope, especially after how bad Weidman destroyed him
8 Yushin Okami - no
9 Alan Belcher - Possibly, Belcher does have heavy hands and a good chin. most likely not though, Silva will be twice as fast
10 Ronaldo Souza - no
11 Brian Stann - no
12 Jake Shields - no
13 Hector Lombard - doubt it
14 Rich Franklin - nope
15 Tim Kennedy - no way
16 Chris Leben - no way
17 Mamed Khalidov - doubt it
18 Rousimar Palhares - this one could be interesting, especially if Palhares could get Silva down
19 Wanderlei Silva - nope
20 Alexander Shlemenko - has a long way to go
21 Jorge Santiago - nope
22 Lorenz Larkin - nope
23 Constantinos Philippou - long way to go, but he may be able to
24 Roger Gracie
25 Maiquel Jose Falcao Goncalves
We can also add Rashad Evans (not Rasheed Evans who was scheduled to fight Batista) - coming down from 205 He will have some strength with Silva, and he has the wrestling credentials. Not definitive power in punches, but he is pretty good standing and has shown to have a chin taking shots from a lot of big LHWs like Thiago Silva, Rampage, etc.
What most of these guys need to have happen is for age to catch up to Silva. he is just way too quick, if he doesn't slow down i don't think anybody can beat him at 185. if he starts to show signs, some of the young up and coming guys could have chance if they hurry up and develop a lot in the next year or year and a half
Marvin
Footballguy
Nice write-up. Thanks for the details. I can't take Alan Belcher seriously. That tattoo of Jim Belushi that he has is terrible.
modogg
Footballguy
makes me cringe every time. Thing is the guys has to know the picture of Cash looks stupid, and he has to have heard the joke that it is over and over again. The guys has also made some good money, and i know if i had a job that required me to not wear a shirt for most of it, if i had a dumb looking tattoo i would find a way to use some of that money to get that touched up. Hell, there are a few tattoo reality shows, he can't find a way for someone in his camp to get him on one of those shows and have them touch it up? I know Gray maynard had a tramp stamp on his lower back for awhile, and he acknowledged how bad of a decision it was to ever get that. I am not positive if he still has it or not, but that would certainly be one i would get removed quickly as well.
Marvin
Footballguy
I'd just go ahead and have another tattoo artist turn it into Fred Flintstone.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
I got room in the shed now that your house is gone.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Weidman vs. Silva.
Please don't waste 6-8 total months in Silva's career on a fight with Bisping.
GSP's injury IMO kills any chance of fight with him and Silva.
Only thing that's gonna beat Silva is father time.
Please don't waste 6-8 total months in Silva's career on a fight with Bisping.
GSP's injury IMO kills any chance of fight with him and Silva.
Only thing that's gonna beat Silva is father time.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I don't think GSP would win. There's only so much more Silva can do where he is. He said post-match he's staying at 185. Weidman is the only viable threat to him in his division. (And you could very well argue the twice beaten Sonnen still could be).
Does anyone really want to waste what time's left in Silva's career on a fight with Bisping?
Does anyone really want to waste what time's left in Silva's career on a fight with Bisping?
bills025
Footballguy
Just to see Bisping get the ever loving crap kicked out of him.I would rather see Jones, Diaz( I think would give him a fight), Rashad. Or a super fight with Fedor. Silva looks like a Jedi against storm troopers out there, freaking unreal!
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I was satisfied with Dan Henderson humiliating Bisping. I don't think it's worth wasting the handful of fights Silva probably competes in on Bisping.
Fedor?!?! :lol Super fight?
I'd rather see Jones too. I never see it happening. No matter the money.
Fedor?!?! :lol Super fight?
I'd rather see Jones too. I never see it happening. No matter the money.
bills025
Footballguy
Hendo dropping the H-Bomb twice was awesome. Just saying the guy keeps talking wouldn't mind seeing it again. Fedor was considered the greatest fighter ever until about 1-2 years ago. I just think it would be interesting to see the 2 of them fight. I understand Fedor has retired, and he lost to Hendo, who lost to Silva. But it would be a super fight in that a ton of people would tune in to see it.Silva and Jones are actually in the position of being so dominate that they won't be able to sell PPV's anymore. If they refuse to face actual tough opponents then no one is going to want to shell out $50 to watch them fight. Perhaps they can headline the UFC on FOX shows.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Toughest challenger for him, IMO, is Weidman. Young mother-####er with great wrestling, solid hands and a good chin.After that... no one but Jones and that isn't gonna happen. As a Canadian, I'm obligated to root for GSP, but he has no chance. If Silva can handle the wrestling of Sonnen, he can handle GSP's. GSP's only hope is to hold him down for 3 out of 5 rounds and not get KO'ed in the other two. Not gonna happen. I think Jones would beat Silva based on sheer size and strength. The reach is a huge advantage and I think Jones would have the strength to pin Silva to the ground for long enough to win a decision or brutalize him with elbows. There is absolutely no one who compares to Silva skill wise. There might be better physical freaks (Jones, GSP), but there will never be anyone as talented ever in the UFC. We're watching the equivalent of Gretzky, Ruth, Jordan, Ali, Pele, etc. The UFC will never see such a dominant fighter again.
bills025
Footballguy
I agree skill wise. But I disagree on whether or not he could beat Jones. I understand your argument about Jones size, but Jones was almost caught by Vitor. I think both guys biggest advantages are the "aura" that surrounds them, and I don't think Silva will buy into it. I Would LOVE to see the fight either way.Also I am a big GSP fan. The fight just seems like BS.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
He wasn't able to handle the wrestling of Sonnen (or Hendo for that matter). GSP would do the same thing to him that Sonnen did, except wouldn't be stupid enough to get caught in an arm bar. The difference is, GSP is more of a tactical wrestler, whereas Sonnen is relentless with it.GSP's reach is listed as 2" longer than Sonnen's, although he's shorter.I'm definitely curious about how Weidman would do, especially after he ran through Mark Munoz like he wasn't there.'Cliff Clavin said:
Last edited by a moderator:
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
lol @ Fedor vs Silva.
modogg
Footballguy
Anderson Silva would absolutely obliterate Fedor, and could literally do whatever he wanted to do throughout the entire fight. I don't think Fedor could land a shot on Silva, and Silva would just toy with him for as long as he wanted to. And i give GSP a chance. I know it has been awhile since he has fought, but it is funny how everybody forgets how dominant GSP has been and for how long he has dominated. GSP would be able to take Silva down with his wrestling, and would have a good gameplan going into it. It would be interesting to see if GSP would stand and strike with Silva for awhile, because I think he could do well on the feet. The big question is how many big shots GSP could handle, and could GSP get KO'd by Silva? Only time i ever saw GSP really rocked was in that first Serra fight.All i know is i have had these discussions for years now. I won't speak another word about it until the fight is booked. funny how you can get burned out and not even like the fight so much getting teased with it for so long
Sean
Footballguy
guess im in the minority but i think a Silva/Fedor fight would be interesting and definitely not a complete domination by Anderson even though he'd be a sizable favorite. The idea of it ever happening is the part thats a joke.
So Dana is "promising" to make a Silva/Jones fight happen. I doubt it ever will but in my opinion Jones would beat him handily. The show he put on against Bonnar was impressive but it was pretty meaningless in the grand scheme. Silva has shown he can be taken down and I think there Jones elbows would overwhelm him.
So Dana is "promising" to make a Silva/Jones fight happen. I doubt it ever will but in my opinion Jones would beat him handily. The show he put on against Bonnar was impressive but it was pretty meaningless in the grand scheme. Silva has shown he can be taken down and I think there Jones elbows would overwhelm him.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Jones vs Sonnen on TUF then fight in April 
Pathetic.
Pathetic.