Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
UFC wagering: no longer stuck with the old thread title. The window to change it is here! (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter AhrnCityPahnder
- Start date
scoobus
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Did anyone else get the impression in the post-fight interview that we saw the last of Silva? He looked like he wanted nothing to do with the octagon anymore.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I don't know what the hell he was saying. He has a 10 fight contract which he's going to fulfill but he's not going to fight for the title anymore. Huh? He can't feel good right now. He's been pulling that crap for years and he finally got caught.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Anderson held the belt for nearly 7 years. Unreal.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
I agree on all the above, but I think it's a shame that he/commentators even have a window to cheapen Wiedman's win tonight getting caught off guard mid-taunt like that.
That's classless, but I guess that's Silva. GOAT.
Warrior
Footballguy
Lost in translation? He won't fight for the title anymore...meaning he fights for Brazil, he fights for his family, he doesn't fight for the belt (i.e. that's not why he fights)
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Post-event press conference. Anderson is getting his re-match first and foremost according to Dana.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
And #### Belfort getting a title shot.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Didn't know the hate for Silva was that strong.
Greatest fighter ever. You should feel privileged that you got to watch him destroy the UFC for 7+ years.
Greatest fighter ever. You should feel privileged that you got to watch him destroy the UFC for 7+ years.
Pick
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
Yeah, watching all of these clips it is obvious that Luongo trained Wideman extensively on how to address this when Silva does his shtick. Anderson avoided the first 2 shots beautifully, but Wideman went 100% pressure and took some steps in and cut the gap to hit Silva on the 3rd one. I just can't believe Silva got this overconfident and cocky to think he could do this over and over again.AhrnCityPahnder said:
modogg
Footballguy
Now i have to truly reconsider putting money on GSP against hendricks. it looks like one of these conspiracy theories from middleeasy.com is coming true: http://middleeasy.com/index.php/fighting/item/11053
it is #5 on their list. the pictures don't come through but it is about after the UFC made a "champions poster", all of their champions are losing from left to right on the picture. :
I think it's best that we hear about this strange UFC poster conspiracy from the originator of the theory himself, Peteyandjia. There's no way we can do the story justice without publishing his direct quote from the Sherdog Forum over three years ago. Check out the visual below of the poster to better understand this conspiracy theory.
It started, as all great stories do, with a BJ.
In April, he lost his belt to some guy from New Jersey. If that sounds impossible, it is because supernatural forces were at play.
Then in May, only one month later, The Dragon also fell victim to the Unholy Power of the Poster, when he lost to a guy who doesn't even have any working knees.
I trembled as the reality of the curse began to set in.
Could it be?
Then in July, Brock was on the brink of defeat against Shane Carwin - but he somehow pulled it out. "This is it!" I thought. "The curse has been defeated by the Vanilla Gorilla!!"
But then... Brown Pride happened.
The Poster Gods manifested their angry wrath in the form of an undefeated HurriCain which barreled illegally over the southern border of the US, and straight into Brock's face.
According to this conspiracy theory, that means Anderson Silva is the next champion to lose his belt. It's also important to note that while Anderson Silva is champion, Georges St. Pierre will never lose his belt.
We also couldn't find a single copy of this UFC poster aside from the one in the picture. Is the UFC telling us what they're doing before it's actually done? The world may never know.
it is #5 on their list. the pictures don't come through but it is about after the UFC made a "champions poster", all of their champions are losing from left to right on the picture. :
I think it's best that we hear about this strange UFC poster conspiracy from the originator of the theory himself, Peteyandjia. There's no way we can do the story justice without publishing his direct quote from the Sherdog Forum over three years ago. Check out the visual below of the poster to better understand this conspiracy theory.
It started, as all great stories do, with a BJ.
In April, he lost his belt to some guy from New Jersey. If that sounds impossible, it is because supernatural forces were at play.
Then in May, only one month later, The Dragon also fell victim to the Unholy Power of the Poster, when he lost to a guy who doesn't even have any working knees.
I trembled as the reality of the curse began to set in.
Could it be?
Then in July, Brock was on the brink of defeat against Shane Carwin - but he somehow pulled it out. "This is it!" I thought. "The curse has been defeated by the Vanilla Gorilla!!"
But then... Brown Pride happened.
The Poster Gods manifested their angry wrath in the form of an undefeated HurriCain which barreled illegally over the southern border of the US, and straight into Brock's face.
According to this conspiracy theory, that means Anderson Silva is the next champion to lose his belt. It's also important to note that while Anderson Silva is champion, Georges St. Pierre will never lose his belt.
We also couldn't find a single copy of this UFC poster aside from the one in the picture. Is the UFC telling us what they're doing before it's actually done? The world may never know.
Last edited by a moderator:
Brady Marino
Footballguy
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I don't think it's so much hate. It's just that if you're going to incorporate ali-level shtick into your fights, you better make sure it works. Getting KO'd 1.8 seconds after you were clowning is bound to bring out some schadenfreude in most of us.Cliff Clavin said:
And, agree on what a privilege it's been watching him for all these years. But, let's not talk about him in the past tense just yet....he's still got a lot of good fights in him, whether or not they're for titles.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Not at all how I (or anyone in the world) expected it to go down...but I'll take it!
Obviously a Silva rematch is a must but I'm starting to think it will be Silva-Jones. GSP wants NOTHING to do with Silva, and doesn't need the money. That leaves who? Likely Belfort, then perhaps Bisping-Munoz for the next shot? I think Weidman will be significantly undervalued in the betting market as a result of the way this fight went down.
Obviously a Silva rematch is a must but I'm starting to think it will be Silva-Jones. GSP wants NOTHING to do with Silva, and doesn't need the money. That leaves who? Likely Belfort, then perhaps Bisping-Munoz for the next shot? I think Weidman will be significantly undervalued in the betting market as a result of the way this fight went down.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
you think he'll hold the belt for awhile? i didn't think Weidman would win, so i didn't even think of any match-ups with him. i think Belfort can take him, but i do agree Weidmann will be under-valued for a bit
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
modogg
Footballguy
i don't know it seems like a lot of hate, almost Bisping-esque. People love his style when he is knocking everybody out, and love to hate on Silva when he gets caught doing it. i think if/when Silva fights again will determine his legacy. If he bounces back likev the monster he was at 205 he'll be fine, but if not all talk will go to Jones as the GOAT
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Did Dana ask Silva to be an ##### to draw more PPV? I don't get the hands down to the sides asking the guy to hit you. Best part from a person like me who doesn't follow the sport is watching him get knocked the #### out not showing more respect to his profession. NO ONE likes a showboat. Just get in there do your job and rack up the wins. I will remember him the way it ended last night.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Silva's legacy is set in stone.
16 straight wins, 6 1/2 years as middleweight champion, some of the most spectacular KOs ever. None of that can ever change.
He's 38. He's at the age where Muhammad Ali lost to Holmes and Berbick, and Michael Jordan was playing for the Wizards. He could lose to my grandmother in his next fight and his legacy doesn't change.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
His legacy is set. I think a big reason he was such an idiot last night was because he just doesn't care about the chumps he is being forced to fight and now that he isn't the champ, he can hand pick his fights. Shogun, Henderson, Bisping, Mousasi, etc. Guys who will actually fight him and put on a show.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Its not like he hasn't acted like that before. GOAT most likely although Fedor should be in the discussion, but act like a professional. His behavior is disrespectful to his opponent and to the sport. I guess some people like that showboating but I personally can't stand it.
scoobus
Footballguy
Why don't you head back to the boxing thread with the other 2 people on this forum that follow it.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
+$50k bonus for KO of the night, plus all the endorsements he secured, and now that he's champ he'll command a higher purse moving forward. There's a lot of guys you can cry poor for in the fight game, but Weidman isn't one of them (anymore).
Last edited by a moderator:
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
He chose not to renegotiate his contract before the fight:
http://www.mmamania.com/2013/3/29/4161022/chris-weidman-new-ufc-162-contract-anderson-silva-mma
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Its close but I give it to Silva because he knocks guys the #### out while GSP couldn't finish a 12 year old. Jones may get there but it won't happen for at least another 3 years.I've championed GSP as the GOAT for quite a while due to his dominance and superior level of competition. Jon Jones is young enough and talented enough to shatter their (Anderson's and Georges') marks if he keeps it up, though.
NutterButter
Footballguy
That Serra loss is such a huge blemish. His lack of finishes is another knock against him. I would give him the edge in competition. GSP is my favorite fighter, but I wouldn't put him ahead of Silva or Fedor as GOAT.
Abrantes
Footballguy
I understand that the case in Anderson's favor is the spectacle, and I don't begrudge anyone for picking him. For me (and GSP, it seems), winning is all that matters in the end. GSP hasn't lost more than a handful of rounds in his entire career, and finishing skill aside, he's out of this world in terms of doing exactly what it takes to win.
The Serra loss is a blemish, but Anderson had a pair of embarrassing losses of his own, at similar points in his career. Anderson was submitted by Takase in his 13th career fight, with six years of experience. Then, he was submitted by Chonan in his 17th fight, with 7.5 years of experience. Meanwhile, GSP's only two losses were to Hughes (8th career fight, almost 3 years' experience) and Serra (15th career fight, 5.5 years' experience). It's a matter of timing. If the Serra loss had come sooner, instead of splitting his two win streaks, I feel that people would look at it much differently.
The Serra loss is a blemish, but Anderson had a pair of embarrassing losses of his own, at similar points in his career. Anderson was submitted by Takase in his 13th career fight, with six years of experience. Then, he was submitted by Chonan in his 17th fight, with 7.5 years of experience. Meanwhile, GSP's only two losses were to Hughes (8th career fight, almost 3 years' experience) and Serra (15th career fight, 5.5 years' experience). It's a matter of timing. If the Serra loss had come sooner, instead of splitting his two win streaks, I feel that people would look at it much differently.