SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I think I'm going with BJ Penn here. If he can't get up for this fight, he needs to hang it up.
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modogg
Footballguy
i don't think this is about him trying to bring it here. I think Rory will be stronger and bigger, and be able to lean on BJ and wear him down quite a bit. not sure how BJ can win this one, i don't think he can KO or submit Rory, and i don't think he can take a decision from Rory either
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Penn looks broken already. He gets that look on his face like Peyton Manning does after he starts playing badly.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Rory can end this but he is punishing BJ for personal reasons. ####
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
BJ was a fool to take this.
modogg
Footballguy
yeah, but i may blame his camp and training partners as well. Where are the guys to tell BJ that this might not be the best fight for him, or even give him some sort of game plan going into this fight. I am sure BJ has at least a cracked rib or something by his liver, but i am still not sure what exactly his strategy is in this fight
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
The whole 'is BJ motivated?' thing has gotten tiresome over the years. Glad to see Rory clowning him. Goldy said it best 'BJ is Rory's punching bag'
"The whole motivated BJ" issue mattered when he was champ/top contender. Amusing that NOW he says he's motivated -- who cares? You're not a contender anymore. Or anywhere close. He's got no shot at 170. Especially against someone with a more versatile skill set and works on his skills year round. Not just when he feels like it.
He'a a 155 guy. Him not having to cut for 170 isn't an advantage for him....it's a reason to not work.
See ya later BJ. You got Hawaii. Aloha.
"The whole motivated BJ" issue mattered when he was champ/top contender. Amusing that NOW he says he's motivated -- who cares? You're not a contender anymore. Or anywhere close. He's got no shot at 170. Especially against someone with a more versatile skill set and works on his skills year round. Not just when he feels like it.
He'a a 155 guy. Him not having to cut for 170 isn't an advantage for him....it's a reason to not work.
See ya later BJ. You got Hawaii. Aloha.
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Angry Bovine
Rory dominated but didn't show much class in there. Cocky punk headed down the Bones trail rather than GSP.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
It was a run.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Getting booed hard.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Wish he would have buried BJ on the mic while getting booed.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Alexander Gustafsson is the biggest threat to Jones.
Hoping Rua doesn't catch him. Rua has zero shot vs. Jones.
Hoping Rua doesn't catch him. Rua has zero shot vs. Jones.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
He wasn't even a threat to Phil Davis.
russinfortworth
Footballguy
Why did everyone at the fight boo MacDonald? Is he a piece?
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
HAVE WE EVER HAD A 4 EYEBALL ON 4 ASSCHEEKS FIGHT IN THE UFC BEFORE?!?!?
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Angry Bovine
Not a good trend
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Angry Bovine
Jones will murder Gus
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Nice win by Gustafsson over the punch drunk Rua. His legs are the only thing that pose any threat to Jones's insane reach advantage. Jones is just at another level than everyone else in the division.
Give credit to Rua. He was gasping for air a round later than BJ Penn was.
BJ and Rua looked old and tired.
Give credit to Rua. He was gasping for air a round later than BJ Penn was.
BJ and Rua looked old and tired.
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SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Rua didn't look quite as slow and lethargic as he has lately, but he just doesn't seem to have it anymore. Hard to believe he was champ not too long ago.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I doubt Gus could even make it out of the first.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
30-26?
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I think we see why Rua didn't want Glover Texeira now.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
ALL ABOARD THE DIAZ WAR WAGON /choo choo
Possum
Footballguy
The main things I dislike about Gustafsson are that he leads with his head too much standing up for my liking and he doesn't seem like hes trying to finish guys as much as outpoint them. He had both Shogun and Thiago hurt and didn't really work as hard as I thought he should in pressing that advantage... you let guys like that hang around and hang around and it will eventually bite him. Thats a big difference between him and Jones and one reason why I doubt he's got anything for the champ right now, even though he's a hell of a good fighter.
Rory's fight didn't really tell us anything we don't know already... BJ is too small for WW, especially against a top contender like MacDonald.
Rory's fight didn't really tell us anything we don't know already... BJ is too small for WW, especially against a top contender like MacDonald.
modogg
Footballguy
We are in the gambling minority though. Diaz has moved to +175, lot of love has to have come in on Hendo in the last few hours to get it to move that far
Possum
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Thought this started at 8cst and missed Penn vs Rory 
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Would love to see Nate take win the belt and hear his post-fight speech 
. I just think Benson will overwhelm him with strength advantage.
. I just think Benson will overwhelm him with strength advantage.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Did yourself a favor unless you wanted to see Penn get spanked.Thought this started at 8cst and missed Penn vs Rory
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
That was what I most excited for :( . Always hated Penn.Did yourself a favor unless you wanted to see Penn get spanked.Thought this started at 8cst and missed Penn vs Rory
Prelims were awesome. I am old school so hated seeing Penn and Rua get dominated. But even if the main event sucks, one of the best UFC events in a long time.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Benson just too strong. He's destroying Nate's front leg so the reach advantage is meaningless. Looks like he's changing stances -- probably not a bad idea. Couldn't hurt his slim chances here.
modogg
Footballguy
i agree Ben is up, but he hasn't done too much to really dominate the fight. Nate has to get a little more aggressive and come after Ben, but neither guy seems to be doing anything convincingly. strange seeing Nate give up his back to get up each time
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
diaz down 3 rounds. needs to finish BH and I don't see that happening. 
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Praying for Benson to make a mistake on the ground. Only way Nate's got a shot. As great technically on the ground as Nate is, he just can't control Benson.
modogg
Footballguy
Yup, i was just typing this. I have no idea how they have had so many mess ups, we lost sound for 10 second periods 5-6 times, and they just had a nice shot of an empty arena in the middle of that round. I really don't know how they can be screwing this up, when Fuel does it just fine
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Angry Bovine
They are bleeping the corner men.The arena cutaway was a screwup though
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modogg
Footballguy
there were at least 6-7 times it happened, maybe it was the FX show too. I was thinking they just had some people who were hyper-sesnitive with the censors to make sure no bad language got out.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Glad that hype train got derailed convincingly. 
Possum
Footballguy
I think Nate was giving him the finger when they did the arena cutaways
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Time to drop down to featherweight.
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Angry Bovine
The arena cutaway may be a secondary fallback (if the first line censor doesn't catch it they have a secondary option)
Benson was dominant.
Benson was dominant.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Goldy, what does a 'changing of the guard' in this Diaz/Benson fight have to do with Gustaffson / Rory destroying two old and tired vets Penn/Rua??
Diaz/Benson are in their primes. Benson is just much physically stronger. Penn and Rua are past their prime guys that refuse to get into the condition to be productive for 3 rounds anymore.
winwithike
Footballguy
Pretty sure the cut aways were censoring diaz flipping the bird. Dominating win by bendo that was excellent
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Angry Bovine
Ah you are right.