pantherclub
Footballguy
No way he makes it. It was his nanny writing the papers. How can he plead ignorance? I would love to hear from some of the UNC fans here. Whats your take? Is football as we no it over at UNC?
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pantherclub
Footballguy
Its funny on the ACC basketball thread there are dozens of UNC fans posting on it but now it comes to cheating in football (and possibly bball now) not a fan is any where to be found. Interesting
pantherclub
Footballguy
That is just unreal. I am going to sacrifice a small goat today with hopes this spreads to the basketball program.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
They hired Butch Davis. Nough said.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Pic of Nanny?
Eastwood
Footballguy
Pretty good article from a unc newspaper no less-
CHAPEL HILL – The area beyond the East end zone at North Carolina’s Kenan Stadium is a construction zone now.
Gone is the historic old field house with its terra cotta roof, and in its place are random piles of dirt, construction equipment, some concrete pillars and two towering white cranes rising into the Carolina blue sky.
UNC chancellor Holden Thorp is tight-lipped as a sullen Butch Davis looks on during Thursday's press conference.
Soon, a new “Blue Zone” section of seats and suites will be erected so that the highest of rollers can cheer the Tar Heels on in the ultimate lap of luxury.
It’s an upgrade that will bring Kenan up to par with some of the best stadiums in college football and help create a healthy new stream of revenue into the athletic department’s coffers.
But watching a game there will never seem the same.
That’s not the only thing that has changed drastically around the place its students and alumni refer to as Blue Heaven.
With Thursday’s official acknowledgment of “academic misconduct” on the part of an undisclosed – though apparently significant – number of UNC football players, the once-pristine image of Tar Heel athletics has been soiled irreparably.
It no longer matters what the NCAA finally rules at the end of its ongoing investigation into coach Butch Davis’ program and its dealings with sports agents, something that could take weeks or even months to conclude.
Like the atmosphere at Kenan Stadium, the public perception of UNC has been forever altered.
The old Kenan field house
You knew things were bad as soon as it was announced that the university chancellor would be attending a hastily called press conference Thursday night to provide an “update” on the ever-changing situation.
But when Holden Thorp began his remarks with the ominous-sounding preface, “To everyone who loves this university, I’m sorry about what I have to tell you,” bad suddenly turned to the worst-case scenario.
That’s not to say that UNC will be put on probation, be banned from the postseason or suffer any other kind of institutional penalties for the violations it has self-reported to the NCAA – improprieties that center around a tutor that allegedly wrote papers for key members of the football team.
It doesn’t even have to come to that.
By simply admitting that the wrongdoing took place, the Tar Heels became the same as every other college program they have always looked down upon.
Scandal is no longer reserved for places such as Florida State, whose initials FSU have come to stand for “Felony State University” because of its athletes’ frequent brushes with the law. Recruits with dubious academic credentials and moral standards are no longer the exclusive domain of certain State schools on the other side of the tracks.
They also reside at buttoned-down, holier-than-though UNC.
Suddenly, the “Carolina Way” doesn’t seem like the right way anymore.
Tiger Woods
It’s similar to Tiger Woods.
For years, we believed – and wanted desperately to believe – that the world’s greatest golfer was also one of the world’s great guys. It’s an image that was carefully packaged and portrayed in everything Woods did.
He had an infectious smile, a great back story and a game that made him different from everyone else who has ever picked up a club.
Then one day last winter we learned the ugly truth. Woods had his faults, just like the rest of us. Now we’ll never look at him the same way again, no matter how many majors he eventually wins.
The same goes for the Tar Heels.
Oh, they’ll work hard to repair the damage currently being done. The process has already begun.
“We will find out what happened. We will do everything we can to keep it from happening again, and we will not let these mistakes define our university and what we stand for,” Thorp said. “We will use this to be a better university, a better athletic department, and a better football program in the years to come.”
As is the case with the shiny new “Blue Zone” that will eventually rise from the rubble that was once the Kenan Stadium field house, UNC’s athletic reputation may someday be rebuilt.
It will just never be the same.
CHAPEL HILL – The area beyond the East end zone at North Carolina’s Kenan Stadium is a construction zone now.
Gone is the historic old field house with its terra cotta roof, and in its place are random piles of dirt, construction equipment, some concrete pillars and two towering white cranes rising into the Carolina blue sky.
UNC chancellor Holden Thorp is tight-lipped as a sullen Butch Davis looks on during Thursday's press conference.
Soon, a new “Blue Zone” section of seats and suites will be erected so that the highest of rollers can cheer the Tar Heels on in the ultimate lap of luxury.
It’s an upgrade that will bring Kenan up to par with some of the best stadiums in college football and help create a healthy new stream of revenue into the athletic department’s coffers.
But watching a game there will never seem the same.
That’s not the only thing that has changed drastically around the place its students and alumni refer to as Blue Heaven.
With Thursday’s official acknowledgment of “academic misconduct” on the part of an undisclosed – though apparently significant – number of UNC football players, the once-pristine image of Tar Heel athletics has been soiled irreparably.
It no longer matters what the NCAA finally rules at the end of its ongoing investigation into coach Butch Davis’ program and its dealings with sports agents, something that could take weeks or even months to conclude.
Like the atmosphere at Kenan Stadium, the public perception of UNC has been forever altered.
The old Kenan field house
You knew things were bad as soon as it was announced that the university chancellor would be attending a hastily called press conference Thursday night to provide an “update” on the ever-changing situation.
But when Holden Thorp began his remarks with the ominous-sounding preface, “To everyone who loves this university, I’m sorry about what I have to tell you,” bad suddenly turned to the worst-case scenario.
That’s not to say that UNC will be put on probation, be banned from the postseason or suffer any other kind of institutional penalties for the violations it has self-reported to the NCAA – improprieties that center around a tutor that allegedly wrote papers for key members of the football team.
It doesn’t even have to come to that.
By simply admitting that the wrongdoing took place, the Tar Heels became the same as every other college program they have always looked down upon.
Scandal is no longer reserved for places such as Florida State, whose initials FSU have come to stand for “Felony State University” because of its athletes’ frequent brushes with the law. Recruits with dubious academic credentials and moral standards are no longer the exclusive domain of certain State schools on the other side of the tracks.
They also reside at buttoned-down, holier-than-though UNC.
Suddenly, the “Carolina Way” doesn’t seem like the right way anymore.
Tiger Woods
It’s similar to Tiger Woods.
For years, we believed – and wanted desperately to believe – that the world’s greatest golfer was also one of the world’s great guys. It’s an image that was carefully packaged and portrayed in everything Woods did.
He had an infectious smile, a great back story and a game that made him different from everyone else who has ever picked up a club.
Then one day last winter we learned the ugly truth. Woods had his faults, just like the rest of us. Now we’ll never look at him the same way again, no matter how many majors he eventually wins.
The same goes for the Tar Heels.
Oh, they’ll work hard to repair the damage currently being done. The process has already begun.
“We will find out what happened. We will do everything we can to keep it from happening again, and we will not let these mistakes define our university and what we stand for,” Thorp said. “We will use this to be a better university, a better athletic department, and a better football program in the years to come.”
As is the case with the shiny new “Blue Zone” that will eventually rise from the rubble that was once the Kenan Stadium field house, UNC’s athletic reputation may someday be rebuilt.
It will just never be the same.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
You dance with the devil and sometimes you get burned. I imagine this is the type of thing that people keep thinking will eventually happen to UK basketball with Calipari. I was at my Mother-In-Law's house for my brother-in-law's birthday and they are all UNC grads. They were pretty upset about it, but no one seemed that surprised and knew Butch's reputation. I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State? As for the basketball program, I think it's pretty doubtful that there is any overlap, although you never know. I had always heard that Roy wasn't a big fan of Butch at all and although he can be mocked for some things, I think Roy runs a pretty clean program. Guess we'll see.pantherclub
Footballguy
Thats the biggest misconception in college sports. That UNC basketball is not dirty. I could name numerous cases throughout the years but in the early 90's once when I was partying in chapel hill I saw Stackhouse driving around in a brand new Range Rover while he was still playing. It goes on everywhere but to say UNC is above it is just simply laughable.You dance with the devil and sometimes you get burned. I imagine this is the type of thing that people keep thinking will eventually happen to UK basketball with Calipari. I was at my Mother-In-Law's house for my brother-in-law's birthday and they are all UNC grads. They were pretty upset about it, but no one seemed that surprised and knew Butch's reputation. I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
As for the basketball program, I think it's pretty doubtful that there is any overlap, although you never know. I had always heard that Roy wasn't a big fan of Butch at all and although he can be mocked for some things, I think Roy runs a pretty clean program. Guess we'll see.
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
So Duke and State are dirty too? I thought so.Thats the biggest misconception in college sports. That UNC basketball is not dirty. I could name numerous cases throughout the years but in the early 90's once when I was partying in chapel hill I saw Stackhouse driving around in a brand new Range Rover while he was still playing. It goes on everywhere but to say UNC is above it is just simply laughable.You dance with the devil and sometimes you get burned. I imagine this is the type of thing that people keep thinking will eventually happen to UK basketball with Calipari. I was at my Mother-In-Law's house for my brother-in-law's birthday and they are all UNC grads. They were pretty upset about it, but no one seemed that surprised and knew Butch's reputation. I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
Tau837
Footballguy
I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
Yes, I love this quote. 
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Thought you would. I laughed.I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Even my three year old knows that "Steal" and "Hill" don't rhyme.anything new out of Chapel Steal?
pantherclub
Footballguy
Everybody skirts the rules. Dont kid yourself. The car dealer trick with UNC players is/was pretty common knowledge. What about Fortes mom? Hansbroughs mom? Wayne Ellingtons house? These are just recent examples. Please dont try to act high and mighty especially with the NCAA on your campus digging.I think it shows a ton about your fan base that you are the only UNC person posting on this thread.So Duke and State are dirty too? I thought so.Thats the biggest misconception in college sports. That UNC basketball is not dirty. I could name numerous cases throughout the years but in the early 90's once when I was partying in chapel hill I saw Stackhouse driving around in a brand new Range Rover while he was still playing. It goes on everywhere but to say UNC is above it is just simply laughable.
Meh, as long as the "Big tomato" aka Sidney Lowe, is running State's B-Ball program, UNC could put St. Mary's of the Blind team on the floor and throttle them by 25 points. I have no horse in this race (attend UConn Maters program and I bleed Husky blue), but i got a quick education when I moved to NC 11 years ago that football is barely a step up from waterpolo in the ACC. This situation, no matter how bad it is, will not taint the school unless it trickles into basketball. i've been to UNC and State games as a local and the atmosphere (regarless of the team, outcome, etc.) is night and day between the two. UNC games are a piece of heaven...going to a State game is as thrilling as an outdoor Arena League game.Thought you would. I laughed.I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?Yes, I love this quote.
simey
Footballguy
Me tooI'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
You have no credibility on this board regarding anything to do with UNC. Your own fan base knows that. They also can read better than you and can see that nowhere in my post did I say that UNC basketball was "above" this. But "this" is some pretty serious stuff and I feel confident that most major basketball programs are above "this". Now a John Calipari run basketball program may be a different story...pantherclub said:Everybody skirts the rules. Dont kid yourself. The car dealer trick with UNC players is/was pretty common knowledge. What about Fortes mom? Hansbroughs mom? Wayne Ellingtons house? These are just recent examples. Please dont try to act high and mighty especially with the NCAA on your campus digging.I think it shows a ton about your fan base that you are the only UNC person posting on this thread.So Duke and State are dirty too? I thought so.Thats the biggest misconception in college sports. That UNC basketball is not dirty. I could name numerous cases throughout the years but in the early 90's once when I was partying in chapel hill I saw Stackhouse driving around in a brand new Range Rover while he was still playing. It goes on everywhere but to say UNC is above it is just simply laughable.
simey
Footballguy
Are you kidding me? You say some weird poo sometimes. NCSU football games are fantastic, and they support their team whether it's good or bad. Tailgating outside the stadium before the game is a blast at Carter-Finley. You can't even tailgate outside the stadium at Carolina. During losing seasons they don't go and support their team. Shining Path and I used to talk about that and he was a Carolina fan. I'm not trying to bash UNC, but what you say is not accurate.Meh, as long as the "Big tomato" aka Sidney Lowe, is running State's B-Ball program, UNC could put St. Mary's of the Blind team on the floor and throttle them by 25 points. I have no horse in this race (attend UConn Maters program and I bleed Husky blue), but i got a quick education when I moved to NC 11 years ago that football is barely a step up from waterpolo in the ACC. This situation, no matter how bad it is, will not taint the school unless it trickles into basketball. i've been to UNC and State games as a local and the atmosphere (regarless of the team, outcome, etc.) is night and day between the two. UNC games are a piece of heaven...going to a State game is as thrilling as an outdoor Arena League game.Thought you would. I laughed.I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I thought he had switched over to talking about basketball games, but maybe I'm wrong.Are you kidding me? You say some weird poo sometimes. NCSU football games are fantastic, and they support their team whether it's good or bad. Tailgating outside the stadium before the game is a blast at Carter-Finley. You can't even tailgate outside the stadium at Carolina. During losing seasons they don't go and support their team. Shining Path and I used to talk about that and he was a Carolina fan. I'm not trying to bash UNC, but what you say is not accurate.Meh, as long as the "Big tomato" aka Sidney Lowe, is running State's B-Ball program, UNC could put St. Mary's of the Blind team on the floor and throttle them by 25 points. I have no horse in this race (attend UConn Maters program and I bleed Husky blue), but i got a quick education when I moved to NC 11 years ago that football is barely a step up from waterpolo in the ACC. This situation, no matter how bad it is, will not taint the school unless it trickles into basketball. i've been to UNC and State games as a local and the atmosphere (regarless of the team, outcome, etc.) is night and day between the two. UNC games are a piece of heaven...going to a State game is as thrilling as an outdoor Arena League game.Thought you would. I laughed.I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
simey
Footballguy
Again, I have been to both games as an outsider and State games, while fun in their own way, just have a generic feel. The stadium is situation between a major highway (I-40_ and the state fairgrounds. You drive into a weird backroad, park at the Canes arena and trudge into a parking lot...no one, unless they are Bruce Jenner can walk from the campus to the stadium. UNC is totally different. We parked on campus, had drinks on Franklin Street, walked into a fraternity and told them i could whip their tails in a keg stand and walked five minutes into our seats in a beautiful setting. Again, I have no allegiance either way, but to compare the two (from an outsiders point of view) is pointless.Are you kidding me? You say some weird poo sometimes. NCSU football games are fantastic, and they support their team whether it's good or bad. Tailgating outside the stadium before the game is a blast at Carter-Finley. You can't even tailgate outside the stadium at Carolina. During losing seasons they don't go and support their team. Shining Path and I used to talk about that and he was a Carolina fan. I'm not trying to bash UNC, but what you say is not accurate.Meh, as long as the "Big tomato" aka Sidney Lowe, is running State's B-Ball program, UNC could put St. Mary's of the Blind team on the floor and throttle them by 25 points. I have no horse in this race (attend UConn Maters program and I bleed Husky blue), but i got a quick education when I moved to NC 11 years ago that football is barely a step up from waterpolo in the ACC. This situation, no matter how bad it is, will not taint the school unless it trickles into basketball. i've been to UNC and State games as a local and the atmosphere (regarless of the team, outcome, etc.) is night and day between the two. UNC games are a piece of heaven...going to a State game is as thrilling as an outdoor Arena League game.Thought you would. I laughed.I'm sure you State fans will love this, but the best quote of the night was from my wife's Uncle who said that if they were sacrificing integrity to win, couldn't he have at least beat State?
simey
Footballguy
Did you miss the huge field outside the stadium and beside the RBC Center that people tailgate in? The field wraps halfway around the stadium. Did you miss all the fields that are lined up along the dirt road that runs behind the stadium? Did you miss the field outside the vet building that people are tailgating on? There are thousands of people everywhere tailgating around the stadium. I'd rather be cooking out and partying outside the stadium in the fields or in the RBC parking lot before the game, versus going to some bars on franklin street and hanging at some frat party before the game, but that's just my preference. Oh and don't forget, if they are having a bad season, they stop showing up for the games.
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As opposed to State where they are accustomed to just showing up for a bad season.
Are you selling me on "dirt roads"? Next thing I know, you are going to tell me about exciting Friday nights in Fayettville...I have no allegiance, but when faced with dirt roads on one side and a highway on the other, I choose the prettier setting...i could care less whether a stadium is at 100% or 90% capacity (because neither dips much below that), I just want a nicer experience when I have no hand in the game...and mind you, this is coming from a Jets fan who makes an annual trip back to the Swamp.
simey
Footballguy
Sell you on dirt roads? Really? You said, "i've been to UNC and State games as a local and the atmosphere (regarless of the team, outcome, etc.) is night and day between the two. UNC games are a piece of heaven...going to a State game is as thrilling as an outdoor Arena League game."...We obviously perceive a "nice experience" in going to a football game as something different. I love being able to tailgate outside the stadium. I like cooking out on the grill, having some drinks, the whole social experience of tailgating. You can't tailgate at UNC. I like going inside the stadium and it's loud and rowdy. Like I said, we have a different idea of what a nice experience is related to college football.
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simey
Footballguy
you've never even been to a state game, grouch.
Tau837
Footballguy
Pretty insulting talk for a guy who has no dog in the fight.Would you care to make a wager on this year's UNC-State games? I'll bet a large sum that UNC does not win any game this year against State by 25 points. We can have a third party hold the money.
I have three kids 8 and and under so i don't have a pot to piss in (so I can't wager), but you are right about my harsh comments. They have nothing to do with the UNC vs NC State rivalry though. They have to do with the firing of Herb Sendek. All the guy did was take mediocre talent and take it to the Tourney. All Lowe has done with equal talent is take it to the crapper. If he had not been your starting PG on a championship team, he would have been run out of town two years ago.
Tau837
Footballguy
Dude, with all due respect, it's crystal clear that you know absolutely nothing about the N.C. State basketball program.Herb Sendek should have been fired 5 years earlier, and it was a blessing to N.C. State that he left. And, oh by the way, he wasn't fired. He quit. And he left the cupboard bare for Lowe, who had a grand total of 6 scholarship players in his first season.Yes, Lowe has been disappointing so far, but it's not all his fault. The program was very thin on players when he arrived, and he had never coached in college, had no recruiting relationships, etc. It was quite obvious that it was going to be a long rebuild due to those reasons. Frankly, he shouldn't have been hired. We have our former incompetent AD to thank for butchering that hiring process, though now that we have gotten through the subsequent four years, the program is finally back to a place where it could have sustained success. Having suffered through Lowe's college growing pains, I think he will probably surprise a lot of people from here forward. And if he doesn't and is eventually fired, we have a better AD in place to make a better hire this time.Sendek never finished better than 4th place in the ACC. Lowe has an excellent chance to accomplish that this year.No, Sendek did not take mediocre talent to the NCAA tournament every year. His first 4 teams that made the NCAA tournament had Julius Hodge, who was a top notch talent (top 5 recruit). And he was part of a very highly ranked recruiting class that helped a lot. And even then, they were consistently on the bubble. Had UNC not hired Doherty and melted down for two seasons, two of those State teams wouldn't have made the NCAA tournament, and Sendek would have been fired.And this is just scratching the surface. Herb was a nice guy but he was in over his head, and he took the program as high as he could - NCAA bubble team. He had 10 years to do more, and it was clear it wasn't going to happen. Good riddance.Really, you would do well not to post again on N.C. State until you get your facts in order. You said earlier that you got "an education" in NC, but apparently you overstated that with regard to what you learned about ACC sports programs in the Triangle.
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pantherclub
Footballguy
Without going into all the details it is extremely accurate to say that Herb was way in over his head.With each new day comes more dirt out about UNC football. Its been a great month. If there is a God he would somehow implicate the basketball team.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The way NC State fans continue to think Herb Sendak was "in over his head" as the head coach of your mediocre, decades-removed from relevance program is a running joke at the other ACC schools. We are all laughing at you. And when you reply, please make sure you address all relevant points. Because I know how you NC State folks like to shave points.
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The Commish
Footballguy
If UNC is as savvy as I think they are....they will be turning attention to the academic part of all this. Basically say, "Forget the agents, parties etc. We have a bigger problem with the morality of our academics and WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS! Sports are the least of our concerns, we'll get to that eventually"
Another reason to count my blessings every day.
simey
Footballguy
you are such a sweet guy. anyway, i remember when carrie's mother told her, "they're all gonna laugh at you," when carrie told her she was going to the prom. that didn't end good...
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Tau837
Footballguy
Laugh away. There is a good chance this year's State team will accomplish more than any of Herb's teams ever did. (And, no, that isn't a very high bar.)Yes, it's been two decades since State was a consistent top 25 caliber program. You post that as if fans should just accept the notion that the program can never get back there again, and thus should be content with a program that flirts with top 40 a few times every several years. That is certainly how our former AD viewed it, and he was very happy with Herb.
I know you are a UNC fan, and thus you have not and may not ever have to go through a down period as a basketball fan, but I just don't get this perspective from others, who act as if State fans are crazy for wanting to regain the program status it once had. Actually, I take that back. UNC went through a two year down period with Doherty, and what happened? They got rid of him immediately. Kudos to them. I wish N.C. State's administration had always had similar high expectations for success on the court and had handled things differently, going all the way back to the end of Valvano's time as coach.
During those same two decades, other programs have risen up to achieve perennial top 25 status, having never achieved it in the past. If they can do it, why can't State do it? That is my view, and that's why Herb wasn't good enough. I credit him for doing some good things, but he plateaued and wasn't going to take it any higher. Why accept mediocrity?
Now, Tobias, since you are happy to come in here and sling some insults towards State basketball, why don't you address the topic of the thread: academic fraud and inappropriate agent contact among numerous starting players in the UNC football program, and the connections to and likely ultimate firing of Butch Davis and Black Santa Blake and perhaps the rest of the coaching staff.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I was simply replying to patherclub's childish hate- he seems to get off on UNC's misfortune, calling it a "great month" and saying that "if there was a God he would implicate the basketball team." That's really pathetic, and he deserves to be called out for it and get a little return fire at his beloved program as well. Anyone who spends time in the ACC Basketball threads will tell you that I have no particular hatred for NC State or its fans unless they act like patherclub has here (which, regrettably, a lot of them do). I honestly hope State has a great basketball season this year and regains its place in the second tier of the ACC. I just wish there weren't so many juvenile, clearly envious Wolfpackers.
As to the topic of the thread- none of us knows any of the details. Based on what I've heard and I'm guessing, I think it's a horrible shame and I'm likely to be embarrassed for my school and its football program, but I'll reserve final judgment until the facts are out. Let's hope it's not as bad as the worst scandal of the Valvano era as reported by 76ers manager Pat Williams:
Tau837
Footballguy
I agree that State has plenty of juvenile fans. But I hate to break it to you, but so does UNC. I don't think you are one of them based on your collective postings on this board, but I can personally attest that there are a lot of them out there.And I have mixed emotions about the UNC scandal. On the one hand, it's a shame for a sister NC school and the ACC, especially since the ACC continues to struggle to establish a better football reputation, and supposely the UNC football program was on the rise and was going to potentially help with that. On the other hand, there is a sense of satisfaction in seeing high and mighty UNC taken down a peg or two. And I'm not unhappy at the prospect of UNC football slipping into the cellar for a few years while finding a new coaching staff, suffering scholarship restrictions, etc. That will likely benefit State, at least with regard to in state recruiting. And I'd prefer that State beat UNC's supposed top 15 football team at full strength this year than beat it with several starters out due to suspension... but I'll still take a win in that situation and be quite happy about it. And I certainly wouldn't pray to God or sacrifice a goat to implicate the basketball team, as pantherclub has said he would, but I wouldn't be unhappy if the basketball team was implicated.Bottom line, UNC is a hated, but respected (by most State fans), rival. Just as I'm certain most UNC fans took pleasure in what N.C. State suffered at the end of Valvano's tenure and in the subsequent decades, so will most State fans take pleasure in UNC getting punished for wrongdoings.
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Eastwood
Footballguy
You've obviously never spent much time in the NC mountains...or the deep south.Even my three year old knows that "Steal" and "Hill" don't rhyme.anything new out of Chapel Steal?
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure I was replying to pantherclub. Sure, we all have our share of juvenile fans. And if you see a UNC fan spitting the kind of unprovoked garbage pantherclub posted here, have at 'em. You have my full support. I can honestly say I would be unhappy if NC State got into trouble with the NCAA again. The mild schadenfraude I might enjoy knowing guys like pantherclub are suffering would be easily outweighed with the hit the conference and the region would take. Honestly, it's not even close. To each their own, though.
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patrickmcgroin
Footballguy
When this is over UNC fans will be disappointed, but not as much as their detractors, going by this thread , IMO.
Eastwood
Footballguy
From what I've heard, UNC fans will be a lot more than just "disappointed." Speaking of cheating programs who are about to get the hammer dropped on them, have you guys heard about UCONN losing some basketball scholarships? Not sure Calhoun can survive much more scandals.
UCONN TROUBLES
UCONN TROUBLES
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Tau837
Footballguy
This is what I currently expect:1. Several players, including a number of starters, will miss some number of games, perhaps the entire season, due to suspension.2. Butch will not be the coach in 2011, whether it's because he is officially fired or because he leaves. I assume that means the rest of the staff will also be gone, but, if not, I expect Blake will also be gone.3. I expect there will be some reduction in scholarships.4. I think it's possible there could be some postseason play restriction.5. I think it's likely there will be a probation period established.I take it from your post that you don't expect these kinds of ramifications.patrickmcgroin said:
The Commish
Footballguy
They should suspend everyone... built in excuse and everything 
Dungeon Master
Footballguy
If this can bump the Gophers from being the program always mentioned as the "worst case of academic fraud", then I'm all for it.Just Win Baby said:
AAABatteries
Footballguy
This is garbage - they should be suspended at least 2 games!- GT Homer
Don Quixote
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