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Unconfirmed: Randy Moss Resigns With Patriots (1 Viewer)
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Well that is boring. I was hoping he would join Owens in Dallas. Good move on New Englands part though.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Did they bring in Culpepper to compete with Cassell for backup?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Huge move for the Patriots.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I think resigning their own players and adding Ty Law is about all the Patriots will do. I hope they resign Gaffney and like I said add Ty Law. Then they can use their 4 picks in the first 3 rounds (more if they can trade out of #7) to retool the Defense.I dont think the cap will be an issue.Besides, $25 million over 5 years. Depending on how they structure the base salary over the first few years, thats not much of a cap hit.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Losing AS and Gay is going to create a major hole in their secondary so expect them to win 41-38 this season instead of 41-10
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
Link please.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Samuel was a very good corner. Gay was a good backup and occasional starter. I think if they add Ty Law and a first round corner, they will be fine.They average 30-35 pts on offense and give up in the 17-20 range.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ty Law <> early 2000s Ty Law
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Not even close. He's not going to be an All Pro corner like he was but he can be very effective in the Patriots defense. He is still good in run support which is important in the Pats D. He would start for the Pats right now.
chris1969
Footballguy
That contract better be very creative, because he's guaranteed 5 mil a year even if they cut him tomorrow and is averaging of 10 mil a year. If he regresses back to the old Randy Moss, they could regret this for the next 5 years.
Team Tosh
Footballguy
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
If you are the Patriots, you have to take that chance. With Tom Brady and the other veterans on the Patriots, and the expected success of the Patriots, I dont think it is that big a risk.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Losing Samuel is going to be hard but they are obviously prepared to lose Gay (their nickel back last year) and safety Eugene Wilson. The Pats planned for this to an extent by drafting Brandon Meriweather; all of this chatter that the secondary is about to undergo a massive overhaul overstates the reality of the situation.
Boston
Footballguy
I can't begin to stress how important this was to the Pats. With Moss the Pats O is top shelf and they can now focus their attention on retooling the back 8 of their defense. If they had lost Moss it would have been a huge void that realistically could not have been replaced. Now all they need to do on O is add some complimentary parts that should be cost-friendly and not overly difficult to add. Also, don't underestimate the return of David Thomas who has the potential to become a very reliable target for Brady. The bottomline is this O will remain elite next year and will give the D some breathing room as it transitions quite a few new bodies into the mix.
There was a lot more tension in this resigning than Patriot Nation expected but it's a done deal. The fact that the Pats are so tight-lipped added to the intrigue. If the Pats had lost Moss not franchising him would have been the biggest personel blunder of the BB/Pioli era. Yet, at the end of the day they got it done and that's all that matters.
There was a lot more tension in this resigning than Patriot Nation expected but it's a done deal. The fact that the Pats are so tight-lipped added to the intrigue. If the Pats had lost Moss not franchising him would have been the biggest personel blunder of the BB/Pioli era. Yet, at the end of the day they got it done and that's all that matters.
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Both starting safeties are still in place with Harrison and Sanders. Merriweather is the swing guy that backs up safety and plays nickel corner. Hobbs is still a starting cornerback. They need to sign Ty Law for the other starting safety spot and use a high draft pick on a cornerback and probably another later pick on a backup safety.ps. I wonder if Chad Scott is still in their plans? He missed all of last year due to injury but played well for them the year before. He is another guy that swings back and forth between CB and S.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Now Brady owners can start thinking about sell-high opportunities. Untill Moss re-signed, that was on hold.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
I still cannot find any confirmation of the signing.
vasco75
Footballguy
Did WEEI interrupt the Celtics broadcast to announce this??Can't find it anywhere...Just heard this on WEEI
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Wouldn't he be more effective as a safety now, that he can't run like he used to?
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
He started 16 games at CB for KC last year. He doesnt have the speed he once had but I dont believe that the scheme the Patriots run puts an emphasis on pure speed at the CB position. I think Law can get the job done at CB. I could definitely be wrong.
livetogo4sub4
Footballguy
Can anyone confirm this with an actual source? I can't find confirmation anywhere.Just heard this on WEEI
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Seriously?
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Me neither. Google it and this thread is the only thing I can find on it. Not really buying this anymore..Can anyone confirm this with an actual source? I can't find confirmation anywhere.Just heard this on WEEI
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jason, you're way off here. The continuity and the ability to anticipate where everyone would be...that just went out the window. We can agree to disagree on this though.
As many people with a clue pointed out, there was no way they could let Moss walk.
It would have completely destroyed the offense.
With Moss drawing double deep coverage, Welker can run wild. Without Moss, everything simply shuts down. Moss just makes everyone so much better. Welker is a perfect WR2/WR3 with Moss as WR1. He opens everything up, which is what Wes needs.
Even if Moss starts the slip, he'll still get the respect from the defense. That's all Brady needs. The Pats do need another WR to emerge, but this pretty much locks them up as a top 3 offense for the next 3-4 years.
People talking about overpaid? Look what Berrian just got. A WR who just scored 23 TDs! 10 mil a year is very reasonable. With the cap increases, this isn't a huge monster contract, and it's actually money very well spent. Would other teams have put up that kind of money? Maybe, maybe not. But it wasn't worth the risk to play hardball with Moss. He played them for some extra money I'm sure, but they had no leverage in this case. Which is unusual for the Pats, but his talent/big play ability was too much to let walk. When you throw out one of the greatest offenses in the history of the NFL, you can't give that up over 5-6 million dollars. You keep it intact, and make your run in the next few years.
It would have completely destroyed the offense.
With Moss drawing double deep coverage, Welker can run wild. Without Moss, everything simply shuts down. Moss just makes everyone so much better. Welker is a perfect WR2/WR3 with Moss as WR1. He opens everything up, which is what Wes needs.
Even if Moss starts the slip, he'll still get the respect from the defense. That's all Brady needs. The Pats do need another WR to emerge, but this pretty much locks them up as a top 3 offense for the next 3-4 years.
People talking about overpaid? Look what Berrian just got. A WR who just scored 23 TDs! 10 mil a year is very reasonable. With the cap increases, this isn't a huge monster contract, and it's actually money very well spent. Would other teams have put up that kind of money? Maybe, maybe not. But it wasn't worth the risk to play hardball with Moss. He played them for some extra money I'm sure, but they had no leverage in this case. Which is unusual for the Pats, but his talent/big play ability was too much to let walk. When you throw out one of the greatest offenses in the history of the NFL, you can't give that up over 5-6 million dollars. You keep it intact, and make your run in the next few years.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
it might be getting close to calling shenanigans. I did a google, and all the FF sites I could think of, plus NFL.com and MSN and no one has a word about it in almost an hour.Me neither. Google it and this thread is the only thing I can find on it. Not really buying this anymore..Can anyone confirm this with an actual source? I can't find confirmation anywhere.Just heard this on WEEI
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Do you care to discuss? If so, make a point. One word responses dont go very far.
Yes, I think it was Meter.Did WEEI interrupt the Celtics broadcast to announce this??Can't find it anywhere...Just heard this on WEEI
David Yudkin
Footballguy
My guy hasn't heard this . . .but he's checking.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Agreed
vasco75
Footballguy
Eagerly awaiting a post David...
chris1969
Footballguy
If 10 mil a year for a WR is reasonable, I hate to see what's reasonable for your QB, LT, NT, best CB, and best LB when it's time to negotiate. They all have that benchmark + 8% + position premium for the next 5 years.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I've been watching the Celts on TV, but I just flipped on the WEEI broadcast and there has been no mention of this for 25 minutes. And I don't think I've ever heard Meter on Sunday nights, on weei.com they've been streaming foxsports radio. You'd know better than I obviously because I wasn't listening when you posted.Yes, I think it was Meter.Did WEEI interrupt the Celtics broadcast to announce this??Can't find it anywhere...Just heard this on WEEI
Boston
Footballguy
Something is odd here. Boston.com has nothing as well. This is too big of a story to be taking a backseat.
jgb95
Footballguy
Rotoworld has this only
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Patriots are close to re-signing free agent Randy Moss.
Schefter says the Patriots have a "standing multi-year offer to make Moss one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL." Moss is perhaps realizing the market for him isn't as strong as believed, although we wouldn't count out another team like the Rams, Redskins, or Eagles making a last minute run at him.
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Patriots are close to re-signing free agent Randy Moss.
Schefter says the Patriots have a "standing multi-year offer to make Moss one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL." Moss is perhaps realizing the market for him isn't as strong as believed, although we wouldn't count out another team like the Rams, Redskins, or Eagles making a last minute run at him.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm beginning to wonder the authenticity of this info. It's been an hour since the original post. THe WEEI web site has nothing, no one else has picked up on it, and I don't see this getting much traction (save Schefter saying the two sides are close).Have we figured out exactly who claimed this to be a done deal? I obviously did not hear what WEEI said . . . are we SURE that's what they said or did they say that the offer was that much and they are close?My guy still can't confirm . . . which makes me wonder if this is legit.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Think it's safe to say at this point that this isn't the real deal.
livetogo4sub4
Footballguy
DELETE THIS POST or change subject
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I changed the thread title to Unconfirmed about 30 minutes ago; we'll obviously remove that tag if and when this is confirmed.
jgb95
Footballguy
Patriots | Close to signing Moss to long-term deal?
Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:21:28 -0800
Albert Breer, of the Dallas Morning News, reports the New England Patriots and unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss are close on a multi-year deal to keep him with the Patriots. If the two are able to come to terms, Moss would remain with the team without visiting any other teams.
from kffl
Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:21:28 -0800
Albert Breer, of the Dallas Morning News, reports the New England Patriots and unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss are close on a multi-year deal to keep him with the Patriots. If the two are able to come to terms, Moss would remain with the team without visiting any other teams.
from kffl
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I saw the Rotoworld link at Boston.com which only confirms what Adam Shefter said. They are close.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
TBIST maybe you misread. Maybe it only said they're CLOSE to a deal.
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