University of Miami 2001 Team (1 Viewer)

[SieteCinco]

Watching the Monday Night game between Houston and the Ravens they briefly talked about how many first round NFL draft picks came from the U. I was still young back then so didn't remember the names of their players so decided to look it up online. I found a list of their draft picks and couldn't believe how many NFL studs were on that team at the same time:

Andre Johnson

Reggie Wayne

Santana Moss

Willis McGahee

Jeremy Shockey

Kellen Winslow

Ed Reed

Jonathan Vilma

Sean Taylor

Vine Wilfork

Phillip Buchanon

Mike Rumph

DJ Williams

Vernon Carey

Jerome McDougle

William Joseph

Damione Lewis

Dan Morgan

Clinton Portis taken in the second round.

I can't remember their games from 2001, but with the amount of talent they had, do you think they could have beaten some NFL teams that year?

Other recent first rounders in the five previous years:

Warren Sapp

Ray Lewis

Edgerrin James

I couldn't find a list of all the players drafted after the first round, but there surely had to be some guys who went on to have great NFL careers.

Clinton Portis

Frank Gore

Devin Hester

Antre Role

Kevin Williams

 

[bostonfred]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

The argument for it is that there are so many players from that team who were immediate impact players in the NFL that they'd have had significant talent advantages at several positions on the field.

The argument against it is that every player in the NFL is one of the best players to play at any college in the entire country, and so at all of the other positions, they would have been way, way, way behind. Plus the NFL players are older, more experienced, know how to work a pro style offense, and have enmough speed on defense to pretty much destroy a college style offense.

I would love to have seen it.

 

[RUSF18]

This 49er fan wishes Mike Rumph was actually an NFL stud.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

 

[TLEF316]

even if we assume that the skill players and Lineman could all immediately compete with and beat their veteran counterparts (most of them could not have) they had no QB.

Ken Dorsey failed in the NFL. No team (let a lone a team of 19-23 year olds taking a MAJOR step up in class of competition) could compete in the NFL starting an absolute washout at QB.

 

[Premier]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002.

Yea that OT game with a phantom flag was a major ###-kicking.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Not to dump on the original list but Najeh Davenport was also on the 2001 team.

 

[offdee]

Not to dump on the original list but Najeh Davenport was also on the 2001 team.

I see what you did there.

 

[SieteCinco]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

I just started visiting this site earlier in the year, so didn't realize that. My bad.I agree it would have made for a good game had they played at bad team, mostly because of the hype it would have created. The NFL team would have had a big advantage at most positions because like you said every player to play in the NFL were at one point the best college players in the country.The ones who would have made it interesting in my opinion are some of the skill players: Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow.I definitely would have watched it.

 

[Jeromen]

No match for Krazy Legs Krenzel.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Not to dump on the original list but Najeh Davenport was also on the 2001 team.

I see what you did there.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

WTF???

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

I just started visiting this site earlier in the year, so didn't realize that. My bad.I agree it would have made for a good game had they played at bad team, mostly because of the hype it would have created. The NFL team would have had a big advantage at most positions because like you said every player to play in the NFL were at one point the best college players in the country.The ones who would have made it interesting in my opinion are some of the skill players: Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow.I definitely would have watched it.

Welcome, enjoy yourself.We've been here too long as we are seeing the same thread topics spread across years.

 

[xfactor99]

The Miami Hurricanes had some combination of Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Jarrett Payton in their backfield during 2001 and 2002.

 

[PolishNorbi]

The Miami Hurricanes had some combination of Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Jarrett Payton in their backfield during 2001 and 2002.

I think 2000 was more impressive in terms of offensive playersPortis, McGaee, Davenport at RB.And a mixture of Andre Johnson, Santana Moss, and Reggie Wayne with Shockey at TE Jeez.. talk about talent.

 

[Cookiemonster]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

I just started visiting this site earlier in the year, so didn't realize that. My bad.I agree it would have made for a good game had they played at bad team, mostly because of the hype it would have created. The NFL team would have had a big advantage at most positions because like you said every player to play in the NFL were at one point the best college players in the country.The ones who would have made it interesting in my opinion are some of the skill players: Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow.I definitely would have watched it.

It definitely would not have been a game worth watching. A story from a friend of mine (Auburn alumni which can probably be echoed from wherever) was that Rod Hood (CB from Auburn that was playing for the Cards at the time and is a career journeyman in the NFL but was pretty darned good in college) went back to work out for the summer and SHUT DOWN the current AU WRs. Not a catch. Not a bobble. NOTHING. This was a middle of the line NFL CB that had improved so much in just a few years in the NFL that the current college guys were so overmatched that they could do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Sorry, there is no college team in history or the future that could compete with the 0-16 Lions from recent past.That said, one of the best recruiting and developmental programs in college history.

 

[glong989]

OL and DL are where Miami would not hang with an NFL team. The argument starts and ends there..

Also, they had Ken Dorsey as their QB. He's not going to carve up any NFL secondaries..even with those sick skill players.

 

[cvnpoka]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

WTF???

miami fans like to whine about the controversial flag in ot. but they always fail to mention that it never should have gotten that far. tosu wr made a clear clock killing catch where he was clearly interfered with twice during his route but the refs called it incomplete for some reason.

 

[gregjcross]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.The argument for it is that there are so many players from that team who were immediate impact players in the NFL that they'd have had significant talent advantages at several positions on the field. The argument against it is that every player in the NFL is one of the best players to play at any college in the entire country, and so at all of the other positions, they would have been way, way, way behind. Plus the NFL players are older, more experienced, know how to work a pro style offense, and have enmough speed on defense to pretty much destroy a college style offense. I would love to have seen it.

I would never agree with any college team playing toe to toe with an NFL one, but that would have been the team if it was possible, and yes, they would have given some sad sack franchise like Detroit at the time a run for its money.

 

[EBF]

I actually went to high school with Ken Dorsey. He was a great QB at that level, too. Won two section championships in a row, including an undefeated senior season that saw his team obliterate their opponents in the championship game by a score of something like 42-0.

I'm not going to go crazy defending his NFL merits here because he had some pretty clear athletic/arm strength limitations, but I will say that he never had the opportunity to play with anything resembling a quality supporting cast. Those Niner teams he played for were beyond awful at the skill positions. If I remember correctly, Brandon Lloyd, Arnaz Battle, and Cedric Wilson were the top WRs. Eric Johnson was the TE. Yea...

Things didn't get much better for him in Cleveland. Besides, by the time he got there he was already seen as a career backup and his leash was extremely short. In limited playing time he looked bad. It's very likely that he simply didn't have the goods to cut it in the NFL. On the other hand, I don't think he was ever given much of a chance. Put him out there with Moss/Wayne/Johnson/Shockey/Winslow/McGahee/Gore/Portis/etc and he MIGHT be able to get you to 8-8.

In the "Did you know?" file, he's currently a backup/player coach in the CFL. It's likely that we'll see him in a coaching role somewhere eventually.

 

[gkza]

This 49er fan wishes Mike Rumph was actually an NFL stud.

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

Watching the Monday Night game between Houston and the Ravens they briefly talked about how many first round NFL draft picks came from the U. I was still young back then so didn't remember the names of their players so decided to look it up online. I found a list of their draft picks and couldn't believe how many NFL studs were on that team at the same time:Andre JohnsonReggie WayneSantana MossWillis McGaheeJeremy ShockeyKellen WinslowEd ReedJonathan VilmaSean TaylorVine WilforkPhillip BuchanonMike RumphDJ WilliamsVernon CareyJerome McDougleWilliam JosephDamione LewisDan MorganClinton Portis taken in the second round.I can't remember their games from 2001, but with the amount of talent they had, do you think they could have beaten some NFL teams that year?Other recent first rounders in the five previous years:Warren SappRay LewisEdgerrin JamesI couldn't find a list of all the players drafted after the first round, but there surely had to be some guys who went on to have great NFL careers.Clinton PortisFrank GoreDevin HesterAntre RoleKevin Williams

Roscoe Parrish & Bryant Mckinnie were also on that team. Both have had good NFL careers.

 

[joker]

The Miami Hurricanes had some combination of Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Jarrett Payton in their backfield during 2001 and 2002.

And the Davenport pre-knee injury was WAYYY better than after the knee injury. I was living in Miami at the time and going to the games, and he was a lot faster before he tore it up. Much more of a RB instead of the bulked-up FB type he became

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002.

Yea that OT game with a phantom flag was a major ###-kicking.

If he thinks losing in double OT to a gift penalty was getting their asses handed to them, I wonder what he figure of speech he assigns the game when Florida beat Ohio State. Wasn't that score something like 52-14?

 

[gandalas]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

WTF???

miami fans like to whine about the controversial flag in ot. but they always fail to mention that it never should have gotten that far. tosu wr made a clear clock killing catch where he was clearly interfered with twice during his route but the refs called it incomplete for some reason.

I love how this never comes up...

 

[joker]

Watching the Monday Night game between Houston and the Ravens they briefly talked about how many first round NFL draft picks came from the U. I was still young back then so didn't remember the names of their players so decided to look it up online. I found a list of their draft picks and couldn't believe how many NFL studs were on that team at the same time:Andre JohnsonReggie WayneSantana MossWillis McGaheeJeremy ShockeyKellen WinslowEd ReedJonathan VilmaSean TaylorVine WilforkPhillip BuchanonMike RumphDJ WilliamsVernon CareyJerome McDougleWilliam JosephDamione LewisDan MorganClinton Portis taken in the second round.I can't remember their games from 2001, but with the amount of talent they had, do you think they could have beaten some NFL teams that year?Other recent first rounders in the five previous years:Warren SappRay LewisEdgerrin JamesI couldn't find a list of all the players drafted after the first round, but there surely had to be some guys who went on to have great NFL careers.Clinton PortisFrank GoreDevin HesterAntre RoleKevin Williams

Roscoe Parrish & Bryant Mckinnie were also on that team. Both have had good NFL careers.

Don't forget Rocky McIntosh. There are others who had cups of coffee or more (Martin Bibla, Brett Romberg) or who had their careers cut short (Kevin Everett). I'm sure I'm forgetting more names

 

[cvnpoka]

The Miami Hurricanes had some combination of Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Jarrett Payton in their backfield during 2001 and 2002.

And the Davenport pre-knee injury was WAYYY better than after the knee injury. I was living in Miami at the time and going to the games, and he was a lot faster before he tore it up. Much more of a RB instead of the bulked-up FB type he became

mcgahee pre injury had pretty absurd potential too. just the fact that still went in the 1st round despite suffering one of the most devastating injuries every recorded is a testament to how highly he was considered.regardless, that team gets annihilated by any pro team that year. spread would be in the 20s.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

....

The old College-Pro All-Star game used to come close.

The Pros (prior year's NFL Champs playing al all-star squad of college players) won 31 of 42 games. This was an exhibition at the start of each season.

>>>A player's strike forced the cancellation of the 1974 game. The last game took place during a downpour at Soldier Field on July 23, 1976. Despite featuring stars such as Chuck Muncie, Mike Pruitt, Lee Roy Selmon and Jackie Slater, the rookies were hopelessly outmatched by the Pittsburgh Steelers, winners of Super Bowl X. The star quarterback for the College All-Stars was Pittsburgh Steeler draft pick Mike Kruczek. Pittsburgh was leading 24-0 late in the third quarter when weather conditions made play impossible and the officials called for a delay. The players left the field and were replaced by unruly fans who tore down the goal posts. NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle decided the game would not be restarted. Chicago Tribune Charities Inc., the sponsor of the game, elected not to bring it back for 1977.<<<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_College_All-Star_Game

 

[buckeye35]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

WTF???

miami fans like to whine about the controversial flag in ot. but they always fail to mention that it never should have gotten that far. tosu wr made a clear clock killing catch where he was clearly interfered with twice during his route but the refs called it incomplete for some reason.

Great posting. Everyone always forgets about that. Should have never went to OT.

 

[doubletrouble]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

:X WTF???

miami fans like to whine about the controversial flag in ot. but they always fail to mention that it never should have gotten that far. tosu wr made a clear clock killing catch where he was clearly interfered with twice during his route but the refs called it incomplete for some reason.

Yep, agreed but then the refs wait to call pass interference on the last play 3 seconds late when OSU CB playing WR SHOULD have caught the ball anyways....

 

[Adebisi]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.

I just started visiting this site earlier in the year, so didn't realize that. My bad.I agree it would have made for a good game had they played at bad team, mostly because of the hype it would have created. The NFL team would have had a big advantage at most positions because like you said every player to play in the NFL were at one point the best college players in the country.The ones who would have made it interesting in my opinion are some of the skill players: Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow.I definitely would have watched it.

It definitely would not have been a game worth watching. A story from a friend of mine (Auburn alumni which can probably be echoed from wherever) was that Rod Hood (CB from Auburn that was playing for the Cards at the time and is a career journeyman in the NFL but was pretty darned good in college) went back to work out for the summer and SHUT DOWN the current AU WRs. Not a catch. Not a bobble. NOTHING. This was a middle of the line NFL CB that had improved so much in just a few years in the NFL that the current college guys were so overmatched that they could do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Sorry, there is no college team in history or the future that could compete with the 0-16 Lions from recent past.That said, one of the best recruiting and developmental programs in college history.

, but it's still funny to hear from the people who seriously think it would even be close.

 

[KellysHeroes]

they might of done well to the Loins of a 2 yrs ago.. they might of been the worst team in recent history

 

[tombonneau]

OL and DL are where Miami would not hang with an NFL team. The argument starts and ends there..Also, they had Ken Dorsey as their QB. He's not going to carve up any NFL secondaries..even with those sick skill players.

I think we all agree the presence of Dorsey renders any debate moot.HOWEVERWhat if they had Manning the Vol at QB? Or really any theoretical pro-ready college stud behind center?

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

We've had this debate here before, but I still contend that that Miami team could have beaten a bad NFL team.The argument for it is that there are so many players from that team who were immediate impact players in the NFL that they'd have had significant talent advantages at several positions on the field. The argument against it is that every player in the NFL is one of the best players to play at any college in the entire country, and so at all of the other positions, they would have been way, way, way behind. Plus the NFL players are older, more experienced, know how to work a pro style offense, and have enmough speed on defense to pretty much destroy a college style offense. I would love to have seen it.

Would suspect it would be as exciting as those old NFL/CFL intraleague exhibition games they did in the 50s.Worst team in the league in 01 was who, the Panthers? They had trustworthy stalwarts such as Weinke under center, the three-headed rushing monster of Huntley/Goings/Biakabutuka, potent receiving threats like Mushin Muhammad and Donald Hayes......OK, wait, you're right, Miami would have rolled.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

If a modern college team played a modern NFL team the game would be stopped at halftime and the NFL players would be charged with child abuse. Every NFL team is a college all-star team with extra years of experience. Every single player is one of the best on the planet at his position. Even the really "terrible" NFL players.

No college team has all-stars at every position, and an NFL team will exploit any mismatch. Wherever they're weak-- OL, DL, CB, whatever-- the professional team will abuse them at will. Any QB in the NFL can complete passes if they have seven seconds to throw, and I can't think of a college defense that could put real pressure on an NFL OL. Even with a couple of impact players, the NFL team would just abuse other mismatches and roll protection toward the couple of standouts.

I think, in the right circumstance, a college team could score on an NFL team. You hit a guy and he fumbles in his own territory and you get a field goal, or a tipped pass gets intercepted or something. But there's no way they would actually outscore an NFL team over 60 minutes.

 

[MDPapi]

Watching the Monday Night game between Houston and the Ravens they briefly talked about how many first round NFL draft picks came from the U. I was still young back then so didn't remember the names of their players so decided to look it up online. I found a list of their draft picks and couldn't believe how many NFL studs were on that team at the same time:Andre JohnsonReggie WayneSantana MossWillis McGaheeJeremy ShockeyKellen WinslowEd ReedJonathan VilmaSean TaylorVine WilforkPhillip BuchanonMike RumphDJ WilliamsVernon CareyJerome McDougleWilliam JosephDamione LewisDan MorganClinton Portis taken in the second round.I can't remember their games from 2001, but with the amount of talent they had, do you think they could have beaten some NFL teams that year?Other recent first rounders in the five previous years:Warren SappRay LewisEdgerrin JamesI couldn't find a list of all the players drafted after the first round, but there surely had to be some guys who went on to have great NFL careers.Clinton PortisFrank GoreDevin HesterAntre RoleKevin Williams

Lifelong fan of the U and an alum, too. Love 'em. But no way in hell that team beats any NFL team. Size, maturity, experience, depth are all on the side of even the worst NFL teams. That Miami team was, however, arguably the best college football team ever. At minimum in the top 3 ever. Over a three-year period starting in 2000, that team went 34-2, losing at Washington by 5 in the first month of the 2000 season and losing that incredible game to OSU (bad call or not, OSU won that game and deserved the title). Along the way, they won a Sugar Bowl against the Gators and a Rose Bowl against the Cornhuskers. They beat FSU and Va Tech three times each, the Gators twice, won at Tennessee, and beat Penn State. At one point, Frank Gore was their 3rd string RB behind Portis and McGahee! At the beginning of that run they their starting WRs were Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne, with a kid named Andre Johnson on the bench. They were an incredible college team. But they couldn't have won in the NFL.

 

[Todem]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

Great epic game.We were totally robbed. And you know this.

 

[Warsteinner]

OL and DL are where Miami would not hang with an NFL team. The argument starts and ends there..

Also, they had Ken Dorsey as their QB. He's not going to carve up any NFL secondaries..even with those sick skill players.

I think we all agree the presence of Dorsey renders any debate moot.HOWEVER

What if they had Manning the Vol at QB? Or really any theoretical pro-ready college stud behind center?

They'd lose to the Florida Gators.

 

[phillyphan07]

And yet most of these guys went on to get their arses handed to them by my Buckeyes in 2002. Say what you will about officiating the Buckeyes wore them out.

Great epic game.We were totally robbed. And you know this.

Is there anything worse than a college championship going to overtime?Congratulations! You guys proved equal playing the game of football, now lets play this entirely different sport to determine the outcome of the game! No special teams! Force a 3 and out? Doesn't matter because that team is already in field goal range! Want to run run your speedy WR on a go route? well tough because there's no room! why don't you try a skinny post instead?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

A bad pro team playing a great college team would be a disaster. The difference is the lines. The pro lines would just eat up the kids with better technique, better physical ability, and a ton of blitzing. Maybe the college team has 1-2 good players on the line, but the NFL team would crush the lesser talented players on the line. Cam Newton wouldn't have 3 seconds to throw before someone decked him. The pro RB would be 5 yards downfield before anyone touched them.

This probably doesn't back up my statement, but a group of college all stars used to play the Super Bowl champs until the mid 70s. I think the NFL team won about 3/4 of the time. It's a bit misleading though. When it started, the teams were closely matched. But over the years the pro team started to clobber them, and often the pro team backups were in the game by Q2. These days, with the talent more spread out around the college teams, no way a single college team has enough talent at every position to deal with an NFL team.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_All-Star_Game