Unrest in Milwaukee (1 Viewer)

[mr roboto]

"shot in the back" was the narrative I was seeing, primarily via Twitter. It's likely a combination of "running from police" combined with the various other cases that have received attention recently. 

Look, I don't like riots either, and they don't make sense to me...but I'm a white man (as I assume most others on here are). I haven't had to watch my neighborhood struggle for decades. I've never been so angry about the way my parents, friends, and neighbors were treated that I'd want to break something. 

I read somewhere that rioting is the voice of the unheard. It's as much about 60 years of segregation and mistreatment as it is about the one incident that sparks the first fire. 

I'm from Minneapolis. The Philandro Castile case still weighs heavily here. I'm shaken by the seemingly endless examples of police brutality and overuse of force. I just can't blame the communities of these victims from reacting to another dead brother or sister. 

Seemingly endless examples?  This 'epidemic' narrative is just not true. 

 

[cstu]

There also are frequent attempts to humiliate people in impoverished sections of the city, Jackson said.
"During questioning or stops, officers would often ask black men, 'Are you working?'" he recalled. "When they said, 'No,' the officer would say, 'What a shame. How can you consider yourself a man and not work? If I had children, I'd shovel s--- if I had to.'"
 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/17/us/milwaukee-police-shooting/index.html
 
That must be humiliating....Somebody giving some fatherly advice....

"Yes, a black man did the shooting but he was wearing a blue uniform with a badge," she said.

"He represented the mentality that people around here are less than human. We're enemies of the state."

So this isn't a black vs. white thing but working people vs. non-working people thing.

 

[parasaurolophus]

"shot in the back" was the narrative I was seeing, primarily via Twitter. It's likely a combination of "running from police" combined with the various other cases that have received attention recently. 

Look, I don't like riots either, and they don't make sense to me...but I'm a white man (as I assume most others on here are). I haven't had to watch my neighborhood struggle for decades. I've never been so angry about the way my parents, friends, and neighbors were treated that I'd want to break something. 

I read somewhere that rioting is the voice of the unheard. It's as much about 60 years of segregation and mistreatment as it is about the one incident that sparks the first fire. 

I'm from Minneapolis. The Philandro Castile case still weighs heavily here. I'm shaken by the seemingly endless examples of police brutality and overuse of force. I just can't blame the communities of these victims from reacting to another dead brother or sister. 

You cant blame them for acting like criminals? I simply can't get behind this mindset. 

 

[avoiding injuries]

"shot in the back" was the narrative I was seeing, primarily via Twitter. It's likely a combination of "running from police" combined with the various other cases that have received attention recently. 

Look, I don't like riots either, and they don't make sense to me...but I'm a white man (as I assume most others on here are). I haven't had to watch my neighborhood struggle for decades. I've never been so angry about the way my parents, friends, and neighbors were treated that I'd want to break something. 

I read somewhere that rioting is the voice of the unheard. It's as much about 60 years of segregation and mistreatment as it is about the one incident that sparks the first fire. 

I'm from Minneapolis. The Philandro Castile case still weighs heavily here. I'm shaken by the seemingly endless examples of police brutality and overuse of force. I just can't blame the communities of these victims from reacting to another dead brother or sister. 

Can you link to one of the tweets that got you to post what you did. It looks pretty bad, especially with how you've responded since, so I'd like to blame your source. 

 

[Billy Bats]

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"Yes, a black man did the shooting but he was wearing a blue uniform with a badge," she said.

"He represented the mentality that people around here are less than human. We're enemies of the state."

Well, from the outside looking in, if you're running/driving around with stolen weapons, then *alledgedly* pointing a gun at law enforcement; sorry to inform you but yes, you just might be a touch less human than myself. 

 

[Billy Bats]

You cant blame them for acting like criminals? I simply can't get behind this mindset. 

Yea that's bull#### when it comes to rioting and calling to burn down other neighborhoods in retaliation and attacking another race. There's a line that has to be drawn with the anger. I wouldn't ever deny the right to be heard, get changes made, and equality everywhere.... But when you break the law to get your point across then people stop listening. 

 

[Billy Bats]

So this isn't a black vs. white thing but working people vs. non-working people thing.

It brings up a debate about policy. Everyone else is to blame for the poverty levels, unemployment and education issues in the inner city. And the others are part of the blame for things, but blame goes on both sides of the story.

Do you blame the system for continuing to support the lower class, the people for accepting it with open arms and then exploiting it for more, or both? 

IMO you can't accept support from the working class and in some cases exploit it, do nothing with it, then still blame the people supporting you for being poor. And in the worst cases burn it down when you're mad. 

 

[avoiding injuries]

It brings up a debate about policy. Everyone else is to blame for the poverty levels, unemployment and education issues in the inner city. And the others are part of the blame for things, but blame goes on both sides of the story.

Do you blame the system for continuing to support the lower class, the people for accepting it with open arms and then exploiting it for more, or both? 

IMO you can't accept support from the working class and in some cases exploit it, do nothing with it, then still blame the people supporting you for being poor. And in the worst cases burn it down when you're mad. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Ex5NZKvCg

 

[jonessed]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Ex5NZKvCg

 

[Christo]

So what happens from here? Shouldn't those involved in the looting and riots now be arrested? Where or when does the law start to get followed? At what income level is it acceptable to not follow the law, I would love to know so I can work my way down under the hard deck. 

Black Privilege?

 

[parasaurolophus]

Yea that's bull#### when it comes to rioting and calling to burn down other neighborhoods in retaliation and attacking another race. There's a line that has to be drawn with the anger. I wouldn't ever deny the right to be heard, get changes made, and equality everywhere.... But when you break the law to get your point across then people stop listening. 

These riots have affected people's views and not in a positive way. An entire neighborhood has been condemned. That is going to lead to more hurdles, not less. So not only do some black applicants have to deal with racial discrimination when job searching, they will likely face geography discrimination. 

 

[mr. furley]

tell it, Cal

 

[Ditka Butkus]

So this isn't a black vs. white thing but working people vs. non-working people thing.

The Have vs. the Have Not....Lets face it the Have Not provide a diminishing return.....They use much more than they produce...and unfortunately are growing in number...with apparently no desire to stop the trend...

 

[avoiding injuries]

I equate it to when I went from receiving an allowance to working a job on the weekends for minimum wage when I was 14. I would work 8 hours on Saturday and 8 hours on Sunday. When I broke it down, I wasn't making terribly more than I was getting for allowance. I suppose if the allowance option was always going to be there, and I could figure out ways to increase my allowance without putting forth much more effort, I wouldn't have continued to work. 

Im glad a sense of pride was instilled in me and I learned personal responsibility. I could still be trying to live off my allowance and complaining to all my friends who did something with themselves. 

 

[Softballguy]

Can you link to one of the tweets that got you to post what you did. It looks pretty bad, especially with how you've responded since, so I'd like to blame your source. 

It's the same narrative I was hearing, and without going back to check, I don't remember anyone correcting jb earlier in the thread.

 

[Cheese and Crackers]

Medical examiner report confirms Smith was shot in chest and right arm.

 

[Apple Jack]

I backtracked a little and didn't see it, but in a weird coincidence the cop and the thug both went to the same high school, had some classes together, and generally kind of knew each other.  Separate paths and all that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmgghlEagA

 

[Apple Jack]

The disadvantaged neighborhoods of color are responsible for the worst death count ever! Oh wait, it's just since that one white dude a few years ago.