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Updated - PIT QB Roethlisberger Suspended 6 games (1 Viewer)

An intelligent person with NFL knowledge could actually add something to the discussion rather than simply denigrating Pittsburgh natives or coming up with pithy bon mots like "Rapistberger." That's just verbal masturbation.
I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. ;)
What comes around, goes around for sure.
 
An intelligent person with NFL knowledge could actually add something to the discussion rather than simply denigrating Pittsburgh natives or coming up with pithy bon mots like "Rapistberger." That's just verbal masturbation.
I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. :lol:
I hope you're not inferring that I ever said that....that's moronic and lazy too. If you're not, and are simply implying that he heard a dopey manufactured nickname so much that he applied one to someone else, well.... as a Pats fan, I'd have thought he'd avoid that.
No, I was not inferring that at all. You should know me better than that by now. ;) The simple fact is, when someone falls hard, fans of other teams are gonna take shots. It happens. People used the Belicheat moniker. People took shots at Mike Vick. People are taking shots at Roethlisberger. And some are inevitably gonna hit below the belt. On a site with this many users, it is gonna happen. That is all I am saying.
 
An intelligent person with NFL knowledge could actually add something to the discussion rather than simply denigrating Pittsburgh natives or coming up with pithy bon mots like "Rapistberger." That's just verbal masturbation.
I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. :thumbdown:
I hope you're not inferring that I ever said that....that's moronic and lazy too. If you're not, and are simply implying that he heard a dopey manufactured nickname so much that he applied one to someone else, well.... as a Pats fan, I'd have thought he'd avoid that.
No, I was not inferring that at all. You should know me better than that by now. :confused: The simple fact is, when someone falls hard, fans of other teams are gonna take shots. It happens. People used the Belicheat moniker. People took shots at Mike Vick. People are taking shots at Roethlisberger. And some are inevitably gonna hit below the belt. On a site with this many users, it is gonna happen. That is all I am saying.
I didn't think so, just checking. I thought maybe I'd said that once and you found it in a search or something. :thumbdown:And sure, I know it's going to happen. I don't even care that it does. I have my opinions on it, and I've never been bashful about sharing them. I just find it odd sometimes when people work those terms over and then act incredulous when they get some sort of snappy response, as if that wasn't what they were after or expecting in the first place.And if pthththththtlate is as good a poster as some others are saying (I don't frequent the SP much any more, so all I've really seen from him is NorrisB-esque trolling) then maybe flexing some of those muscles rather than going for cheap jokes at others' expense is the way to go. I had a similar discussion with Hang 10 yesterday and I believe we now understand each other. I've never put anyone on ignore, but I'm basically at the point now where I see that avatar and instinctively scroll to the next post, ignoring everything he's written. That sucks if he actually contributes content that's intelligent, informative, or funny.
 
An intelligent person with NFL knowledge could actually add something to the discussion rather than simply denigrating Pittsburgh natives or coming up with pithy bon mots like "Rapistberger." That's just verbal masturbation.
I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. ;)
I hope you're not inferring that I ever said that....that's moronic and lazy too. If you're not, and are simply implying that he heard a dopey manufactured nickname so much that he applied one to someone else, well.... as a Pats fan, I'd have thought he'd avoid that.
No, I was not inferring that at all. You should know me better than that by now. :confused: The simple fact is, when someone falls hard, fans of other teams are gonna take shots. It happens. People used the Belicheat moniker. People took shots at Mike Vick. People are taking shots at Roethlisberger. And some are inevitably gonna hit below the belt. On a site with this many users, it is gonna happen. That is all I am saying.
I didn't think so, just checking. I thought maybe I'd said that once and you found it in a search or something. :lmao:And sure, I know it's going to happen. I don't even care that it does. I have my opinions on it, and I've never been bashful about sharing them. I just find it odd sometimes when people work those terms over and then act incredulous when they get some sort of snappy response, as if that wasn't what they were after or expecting in the first place.And if pthththththtlate is as good a poster as some others are saying (I don't frequent the SP much any more, so all I've really seen from him is NorrisB-esque trolling) then maybe flexing some of those muscles rather than going for cheap jokes at others' expense is the way to go. I had a similar discussion with Hang 10 yesterday and I believe we now understand each other. I've never put anyone on ignore, but I'm basically at the point now where I see that avatar and instinctively scroll to the next post, ignoring everything he's written. That sucks if he actually contributes content that's intelligent, informative, or funny.
Just curious. Of the 9,422 posts you've made here, how do you have the time to evaluate what's intelligent, informative, or funny? Seems like you're only invested in having everyone hear your side of the story...dismissing the arguments made by anyone who disagrees with you.
 
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I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. ;)
I hope you're not inferring that I ever said that....that's moronic and lazy too. If you're not, and are simply implying that he heard a dopey manufactured nickname so much that he applied one to someone else, well.... as a Pats fan, I'd have thought he'd avoid that.
No, I was not inferring that at all. You should know me better than that by now. :moneybag: The simple fact is, when someone falls hard, fans of other teams are gonna take shots. It happens. People used the Belicheat moniker. People took shots at Mike Vick. People are taking shots at Roethlisberger. And some are inevitably gonna hit below the belt. On a site with this many users, it is gonna happen. That is all I am saying.
I didn't think so, just checking. I thought maybe I'd said that once and you found it in a search or something. :lmao:And sure, I know it's going to happen. I don't even care that it does. I have my opinions on it, and I've never been bashful about sharing them. I just find it odd sometimes when people work those terms over and then act incredulous when they get some sort of snappy response, as if that wasn't what they were after or expecting in the first place.And if pthththththtlate is as good a poster as some others are saying (I don't frequent the SP much any more, so all I've really seen from him is NorrisB-esque trolling) then maybe flexing some of those muscles rather than going for cheap jokes at others' expense is the way to go. I had a similar discussion with Hang 10 yesterday and I believe we now understand each other. I've never put anyone on ignore, but I'm basically at the point now where I see that avatar and instinctively scroll to the next post, ignoring everything he's written. That sucks if he actually contributes content that's intelligent, informative, or funny.
Just curious. Of the 9,422 posts you've made here, how do you have the time to evaluate what's intelligent, informative, or funny? Seems like you're only invested in having everyone hear your side of the story...dismissing the arguments made by anyone who disagrees with you.
What? Who's dismissing anything? I'm trying to have a back and forth on the topic without having to wade through intentionally inflammatory fishing posts.I don't mind if people disagree with me, just do it like an adult without resorting to making fun of people from Pittsburgh or coming up with nicknames like "Rapistberger" designed only to evoke a churlish response. I've done nothing here but state my opinions, anyone is free to disagree. I'm not resorting to insulting people or making cheap jokes at other peoples' expense. You really want to foster that type of posting?
 
What? Who's dismissing anything? I'm trying to have a back and forth on the topic without having to wade through intentionally inflammatory fishing posts.I don't mind if people disagree with me, just do it like an adult without resorting to making fun of people from Pittsburgh or coming up with nicknames like "Rapistberger" designed only to evoke a churlish response. I've done nothing here but state my opinions, anyone is free to disagree. I'm not resorting to insulting people or making cheap jokes at other peoples' expense. You really want to foster that type of posting?
Hey EG - for the record, I'm a jerk. Sorry :goodposting: I usually keep it in check until people bend over backwards in defending their sports heros when wrapped up in a situation like Rapistberger is right now. It's is apparent not to just to me, but to normal educated america that doesn't want to engage in legal silliness that this guy is a bad dude that victimized women. Then he gets defended. Divest yourself from your sports allegiances. It's as infuriating as political homerism to me.
 
treat - it isn't ironic. It's a poor joke. I don't expect Steeler fans wouldn't appreciate it, of course. But if you really want to question my understanding of %s, then we can talk via pm.
Besides, I'd never seriously knock any poster who tells the truth about the Pats like you do.
:goodposting:Sorry, I guess I'm just used to looking at a Steeler's fan over the past week or so and recognizing something different. My apologies :popcorn:
 
Well, I've spent time in Pittsburgh. I know people from Pittsburgh. The only jokes you folks tend to get are banjo, incest and dental jokes. I don't have any of them :shrug: But let's not start throwing around the thin skinned comments, I mean have you seen your posts in this message board? You've been defending Rapistberger's honor quite fervently.
A female, five string banjoist shouts to her boyfriend in a crowded shopping mall: "Don't forget, sweetheart, I need a new G string!"
HAH! Joke's on you! We don't have any crowded shopping malls.
:lol: :bag:
:lmao: Jesus
 
I am just shocked that the players union sits by an allows the league to suspend players that haven't been arrested/charged with anything without putting up a fight, seems unreal to me.
Maybe they know that BR is a creep and only gets out of these jams because he can pay hush money? Even the union knows it will look bad "defending" BR...
 
Conduct =/ "violating Georgia law"; e.g. "you are held to a higher standard as an N.F.L. player"
I applaud Mr. Goodell's efforts to uphold the reputation of the league and I hope that he disciplines other players with equal vigor. Here is what I expect:6 game suspension if you are accused of a crime, regardless if charges are actually filed.12 game suspension if you are charged with a crime.18 game suspension if you plead guilty or are found guilty of a crime.
Number of NFL players who have been suspended so far for being accused of a crime: 0
 
What? Who's dismissing anything? I'm trying to have a back and forth on the topic without having to wade through intentionally inflammatory fishing posts.I don't mind if people disagree with me, just do it like an adult without resorting to making fun of people from Pittsburgh or coming up with nicknames like "Rapistberger" designed only to evoke a churlish response. I've done nothing here but state my opinions, anyone is free to disagree. I'm not resorting to insulting people or making cheap jokes at other peoples' expense. You really want to foster that type of posting?
Hey EG - for the record, I'm a jerk. Sorry :goodposting: I usually keep it in check until people bend over backwards in defending their sports heros when wrapped up in a situation like Rapistberger is right now. It's is apparent not to just to me, but to normal educated america that doesn't want to engage in legal silliness that this guy is a bad dude that victimized women. Then he gets defended. Divest yourself from your sports allegiances. It's as infuriating as political homerism to me.
I never once said that he was a good dude, that he was good to women, or that he didn't deserve a punishment. I said he wasn't even charged, let alone convicted, of rape. I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst. I said I didn't think the Steelers should trade him when his stock is at rock bottom.Stop seeing what you want to see and actually read what I'm writing. Your Steeler hate is apparent, we all get it. You've been in these threads posting pot shots since the story started. Maybe it's time to focus on your own team and stop flaming just to get a response.
 
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
 
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
OK, we'll just agree to disagree. You can call him whatever you want, and I'll just choose to ignore your posts where you exercise your ability to do so. Not really interested in fighting over this anymore.And like I said, I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I take no offense. I just heard through the grapevine that you're a pretty solid poster - I was wondering why you felt the need to resort to attacks like that rather than simply articulating a point.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
phthalatemagic said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
OK, we'll just agree to disagree. You can call him whatever you want, and I'll just choose to ignore your posts where you exercise your ability to do so. Not really interested in fighting over this anymore.And like I said, I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I take no offense. I just heard through the grapevine that you're a pretty solid poster - I was wondering why you felt the need to resort to attacks like that rather than simply articulating a point.
I don't think I am, but I guess it depends on how much work I have to do. Anyway, I bet a good number of people think the way you do. I'll try to refrain from talking about R[explicit]berger.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
phthalatemagic said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
OK, we'll just agree to disagree. You can call him whatever you want, and I'll just choose to ignore your posts where you exercise your ability to do so. Not really interested in fighting over this anymore.And like I said, I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I take no offense. I just heard through the grapevine that you're a pretty solid poster - I was wondering why you felt the need to resort to attacks like that rather than simply articulating a point.
I don't think I am, but I guess it depends on how much work I have to do. Anyway, I bet a good number of people think the way you do. I'll try to refrain from talking about R[explicit]berger.
I guess you're all right after all. :wall: Have a beer on me... :goodposting:

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
phthalatemagic said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
OK, we'll just agree to disagree. You can call him whatever you want, and I'll just choose to ignore your posts where you exercise your ability to do so. Not really interested in fighting over this anymore.And like I said, I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I take no offense. I just heard through the grapevine that you're a pretty solid poster - I was wondering why you felt the need to resort to attacks like that rather than simply articulating a point.
I don't think I am, but I guess it depends on how much work I have to do. Anyway, I bet a good number of people think the way you do. I'll try to refrain from talking about R[explicit]berger.
Personal preference, but I'm leaning towards The Big Rapist.
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
phthalatemagic said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
I said that making cheap cracks like "Rapistberger" are lazy at best and factually inaccurate at worst.
I disagree with the factually inaccurate statement, but I'm sure you'll revert to forcing this into a legal definition discussion, which may as well not exist. I'll call Rapistburger what he is, like I call Belicheat what he is. I see nothing wrong with that. In fact, that he didn't get charged/convicted means good people of America must brand him for his actions because the government failed to do so. Not branding him allows his horrible actions to be forgotten, and this is unacceptable. So you could say I, and you, and everyone else are obligated to call him Rapistberger. And the Pittsburgh crack is just throwaway. My family is from a town that makes Pittsburgh look like Paris.
OK, we'll just agree to disagree. You can call him whatever you want, and I'll just choose to ignore your posts where you exercise your ability to do so. Not really interested in fighting over this anymore.And like I said, I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I take no offense. I just heard through the grapevine that you're a pretty solid poster - I was wondering why you felt the need to resort to attacks like that rather than simply articulating a point.
I don't think I am, but I guess it depends on how much work I have to do. Anyway, I bet a good number of people think the way you do. I'll try to refrain from talking about R[explicit]berger.
Personal preference, but I'm leaning towards The Big Rapist.
:mellow:
 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Ghost Rider said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
Ghost Rider said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
An intelligent person with NFL knowledge could actually add something to the discussion rather than simply denigrating Pittsburgh natives or coming up with pithy bon mots like "Rapistberger." That's just verbal masturbation.
I would never use the Rapistberger moniker, but I am sure some people probably think it is similar to having called Belichick Belicheat a few years back. Apples and oranges, yeah, but just offering a bit of perspective here. ;)
I hope you're not inferring that I ever said that....that's moronic and lazy too. If you're not, and are simply implying that he heard a dopey manufactured nickname so much that he applied one to someone else, well.... as a Pats fan, I'd have thought he'd avoid that.
No, I was not inferring that at all. You should know me better than that by now. :P The simple fact is, when someone falls hard, fans of other teams are gonna take shots. It happens. People used the Belicheat moniker. People took shots at Mike Vick. People are taking shots at Roethlisberger. And some are inevitably gonna hit below the belt. On a site with this many users, it is gonna happen. That is all I am saying.
I didn't think so, just checking. I thought maybe I'd said that once and you found it in a search or something. :lmao:
In a search? Oh man, do you know how long it would take to scroll through all 372 of those threads on Spygate? :lol: :lol:
 
So I guess we are looking at Week 6 against CLE as the earliest Ben would be back. That gives the 4 games and the bye week.

 
So I guess we are looking at Week 6 against CLE as the earliest Ben would be back. That gives the 4 games and the bye week.
Ben has been behaving himself so :goodposting:
has he?
We are now seeing the drawback to the league putting itself in the position of the Morality Police. Everytime a guys golf buddy pees on a golfcourse it is a major story. What next? If a guy is charged with adultery by his wife is he going to be suspended? Hardly a day goes by without some stupid story about a stupid athlete doing something stupid. The question is: should the NFL be policing this kind of personal behavior? I say that in the land of the free, No. It's un-American and frankly it is getting silly. Now the league is holding players accountable for the behavior of their friends? Yet, it does nothing about the misbehavior of owners and coaches?

Focus on football. Leave the law to the lawyers and the judges. Leave morality to the conscience of individuals and their God and families.

 
Well, that was a short lived "controversy"

Multiple reports are now emerging that, indeed, police in Dublin, Ohio investigated a complaint regarding urination on the course. Carl Prine of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger did not do the public peeing, that the woman (who owns property along the course) ultimately decided against pressing charges, and that the proprietors of the Muirfield Village Golf Club agreed to handle the situation by reminding golfers to use the available restrooms.
 
May have been short lived this time, although TMZ is now reporting that the desciption initally reported described Ben. Whatever.

The bigger point is (much like Michael Vick), he will wear a bulleye on his back and whether he actually gets in trouble again, or is just acussed of it, he's lost the benefit of the doubt in the public (and most of the media's) eye. And that perception he caused.

 
May have been short lived this time, although TMZ is now reporting that the desciption initally reported described Ben. Whatever.The bigger point is (much like Michael Vick), he will wear a bulleye on his back and whether he actually gets in trouble again, or is just acussed of it, he's lost the benefit of the doubt in the public (and most of the media's) eye. And that perception he caused.
Agreed. However doesn't TMZ owe the public at least a little checking before posting their "stories"? The problem is they are in such a rush to post this junk they don't even bother to verify what they are reporting.If they can't get such a minor thing as peeing on a golf course straight why would anyone trust them to report anything with any accuracy? :shrug: TMZ
 
Godsbrother said:
road warrior said:
May have been short lived this time, although TMZ is now reporting that the desciption initally reported described Ben. Whatever.The bigger point is (much like Michael Vick), he will wear a bulleye on his back and whether he actually gets in trouble again, or is just acussed of it, he's lost the benefit of the doubt in the public (and most of the media's) eye. And that perception he caused.
Agreed. However doesn't TMZ owe the public at least a little checking before posting their "stories"? The problem is they are in such a rush to post this junk they don't even bother to verify what they are reporting.If they can't get such a minor thing as peeing on a golf course straight why would anyone trust them to report anything with any accuracy? :shock: TMZ
As opposed to ESPN? Or Foxnews? Etc. Etc.Get used to this stuff. Reason #73 why I was vehemently against Goodell's insane personal conduct policy.
 
Godsbrother said:
road warrior said:
May have been short lived this time, although TMZ is now reporting that the desciption initally reported described Ben. Whatever.The bigger point is (much like Michael Vick), he will wear a bulleye on his back and whether he actually gets in trouble again, or is just acussed of it, he's lost the benefit of the doubt in the public (and most of the media's) eye. And that perception he caused.
Agreed. However doesn't TMZ owe the public at least a little checking before posting their "stories"? The problem is they are in such a rush to post this junk they don't even bother to verify what they are reporting.If they can't get such a minor thing as peeing on a golf course straight why would anyone trust them to report anything with any accuracy? :unsure: TMZ
As opposed to ESPN? Or Foxnews? Etc. Etc.Get used to this stuff. Reason #73 why I was vehemently against Goodell's insane personal conduct policy.
Personally, I have about had enough of Goodell. The ironic thing is that the more the league focuses on morality instead of football, the more the incentive to media outlets to cover every small issue involving a player, even before any facts are known. It's bad for the league IMO to be more talked about for moral lapses than for football.
 
Jeremy said:
Well, that was a short lived "controversy"

Multiple reports are now emerging that, indeed, police in Dublin, Ohio investigated a complaint regarding urination on the course. Carl Prine of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger did not do the public peeing, that the woman (who owns property along the course) ultimately decided against pressing charges, and that the proprietors of the Muirfield Village Golf Club agreed to handle the situation by reminding golfers to use the available restrooms.
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Jeremy said:
Well, that was a short lived "controversy"

Multiple reports are now emerging that, indeed, police in Dublin, Ohio investigated a complaint regarding urination on the course. Carl Prine of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger did not do the public peeing, that the woman (who owns property along the course) ultimately decided against pressing charges, and that the proprietors of the Muirfield Village Golf Club agreed to handle the situation by reminding golfers to use the available restrooms.
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Do you mean that once it was determined that Burger wasn't the one watering the greens, it became a non-issue/non-story/without incentive ($ and publicity) to keep it going? Yea, me too. I'm on the fence about Goodell though. I know the average joe could be let go if he was tied to a news story that shed bad light on the company he worked for, just because his friends did something stupid. But the average joe wouldn't be caught in a story as incredibly boring as this one...I would have to 'fall' on the of disappointment with the job that our current NFL commish is doing.

 

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