Uproar at my kids school this week... (1 Viewer)

[Parrothead]

I wonder if the parents realize that most of their kids watch South Park..

still dumb for a teacher to show it though..

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I live in a competitive eating town.

 

[zamboni]

I think if she follows up and plays the kids this, all will be forgiven. Even the most hardened parents and school administrators would be impressed.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I can't figure out why she would even want to show that video. Did it go along with anything in the curriculum?

They were studying uses of hammers throughout history.

New Common Core Curriculum

DOK Level 1: What was the song/story about?

DOK Level 2: Write down as many context clues you can find that let us know Maxwell is "the bad guy".

DOK Level 3: Pretend you are a prosecuting attorney given the task of trying Maxwell for murder. Write a 2 paragraph opening argument for your court case.

DOK Level 4: Compare and contrast Maxwell's crimes with those of another famous serial/spree killer such as Ted Bundy, Richard Speck, Ed Gein, etc.

Remember to be as competitive as possible! Your town demands it.

 

[Banger]

Out of curiosity. How old is the teacher and any idea where she went to college?

I think mid/late 20's have no clue where she went to school.

 

[rockaction]

I don't get the mockery of his description of a highly competitive town to set up the uproar taking place among the parents. I also seriously question the judgment and state of mind of someone who would decide to show that to third graders in a public school, or even a private one.

It's a boring take, but what the heck was she thinking?

 

[Godsbrother]

Not appropriate and she should be reprimanded and fired if she lied.

That said I can remember singing this song when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school

We have tortured all the teachers - we have broken all the rules

We ramrocked the offices and hung the principal

March on, third grade, march on!

Glory, glory, hallelujah

My teacher hit me with a ruler

I hid behind her door with a loaded .44

And the teacher don't teach no more!

 

[Banger]

I can't figure out why she would even want to show that video. Did it go along with anything in the curriculum?

I keep coming up with a reason why and can't...she's an art teacher

 

[Clifford]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

 

[Banger]

There are things to get undies in a bunch over. Then there's things to just take a breath and move on.

This is the former not the latter.

Do people have no discretion anymore? What the hell?

My buddy was telling me yesterday that I have to see what she had the kids watch and I was thinking like is the case most of the time that these parents are way too sensitive and politically correct and that it was probably nothing. Then I watched it and for the life of me though I can't understand how she thought that was ok for 7-8 year olds and apparently she was laughing while it was playing in the class. an excerpt of the email chain I was sent...

[SIZE=13.5pt]...She has since sent the parents an apology, in which she said she didn't look at the video before she showed it to them and didn't watch it when they were watching it (which is NOT true). A lot of the kids have told their parents she did watch it with them and was laughing the whole time. Many of the parents have complained to the principal and I spoke to her today. She wasn't able to give me an answer, just that there was an investigation underway. Ms. XXXXX called me and gave a convoluted story, she said she thought it was more like "Tom and Jerry" violence. The worst part isn't that showed the kids this, but that she lied about it. She told the principal she only showed one class (and later admitted to showing it to another class) as well as saying she had no idea what the video was about. My son and several other classmates said she was LAUGHING with them watching it. Many of the children in their class complained of having nightmares because of this.....[/SIZE]

Bunch of Nancies imo

If this is not a fishing trip, and there are 3rd graders who had nightmares after watching the video once, then those are simply emotionally disturbed children, and they would have had nightmares anyways. Keep them away from their shadow.

certainly not a fishing trip as I don't spend a ton of time on here but browse the various threads. just thought this would be interesting

 

[Henry Ford]

WTF is a "highly competitive town"?

That is one weird tune, and definitely weird to play for kids

Lots of food-warrior factions.

Wow this place has basically just become one big circle of dickdom hasn't it?

That may be a slight overreaction to my pointing out that "competitive towns" generally have people who would classify as "food warriors" and battle amongst each other for dominance in first-world-problem solving.

 

[Parrothead]

I bet the lawns in this town are perfect

 

[Clifford]

I updated that thread to point out that most food warriors would choose to live in competitive towns. We're adding to the vocab today.

 

[Banger]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[igbomb]

I wonder if the parents realize that most of their kids watch South Park..

still dumb for a teacher to show it though..

Most 3rd graders watch South Park? I have a third grader and I'm fairly certain that isn't true.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Out of curiosity. How old is the teacher and any idea where she went to college?

I think mid/late 20's have no clue where she went to school.

The image in my head was of a 20-something, amoral, Vassar attending lesbian.

 

[Bucky86]

Catchy

 

[Parrothead]

do these towns recruit?

 

[fatness]

Everyone knows that song has created scores of hammer killers in each of several generations since its release.

But I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it all with email chains adding more and more details.

 

[Sinn Fein]

On top of old smokey
all covered with blood
I shot my poor teacher
with a 44 slug
I went to her funeral
I went to her grave
everybody threw flowers
I threw a grenade

 

[Parrothead]

if every kid carried a big hammer, then there would be nothing to worry about

 

[Banger]

I wonder if the parents realize that most of their kids watch South Park..

still dumb for a teacher to show it though..

Most 3rd graders watch South Park? I have a third grader and I'm fairly certain that isn't true.

agreed

 

[rockaction]

Out of curiosity. How old is the teacher and any idea where she went to college?

I think mid/late 20's have no clue where she went to school.

The image in my head was of a 20-something, amoral, Vassar attending lesbian.

Bard or Hampshire, even.

 

[Sinn Fein]

if every kid carried a big hammer, then there would be nothing to worry about

If I had a hammer...

 

[rockaction]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

 

[zamboni]

I can't figure out why she would even want to show that video. Did it go along with anything in the curriculum?

I keep coming up with a reason why and can't...she's an art teacher

An art teacher trying to demonstrate art and the Beatles. Too bad there's nothing else out there.

 

[Banger]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

 

[Reegus]

"highly competitive town"

What a d-bag

 

[El Floppo]

WTF is a "highly competitive town"?

That is one weird tune, and definitely weird to play for kids

Lots of food-warrior factions.

Wow this place has basically just become one big circle of dickdom hasn't it?

The internet is glad to meet you.

Feels like it has gotten worse.

Do you think it's gotten worse, or you've gotten more sensitive about it?

Regarding the song... I never knew wtf that song was about- but it always seemed like a catchy, kids-style tune. Seeing the lyrics and the animation... not appropriate for the kids. But I would have much less or no problem with it if it had just been played as audio.

eta: and I can see the teacher thinkging the same thing- this is a cute sounding song, and it'll be easier to play if I just grab it off of Youtube... oh- this one is animated... perfect. That said, I'd like to think the teacher would give the lesson-plan a little more thought than that. My 6yo just had a segment in school that involved the Beatles- I better go sharpen up my knives.

 

[rockaction]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

Which is kind of funny, because I know what it is like to grow up in a sort of non-competitive one where the college track is almost scorned by a lot of the locals. It's not d-baggy at all.

 

[seahawk 17]

I live in a "mildly competitive" town and don't think that this was a great idea for the teacher to do. Not sure she should be fired though.

 

[McGarnicle]

I just took a highly competitive dump.

 

[Parrothead]

being highly competitive in my house is trying to beat the cat to the best chair

 

[Banger]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

Which is kind of funny, because I know what it is like to grow up in a sort of non-competitive one where the college track is almost scorned by a lot of the locals. It's not d-baggy at all.

mine was like that as well growing up, very normal. There are a bunch of parents over the past several years that have been intentionally leaving their kids back so they are older and more dominant in sports/academics. the schools are actually changing the rules as parents have seen this as an edge and more and more are doing it each year. it's nuts.

the whole point though is that many of these parents are completely overbearing and sooo protective of their kids that I often take what the vast majority think is "unacceptable" with a grain of salt....in this rare case though I agreed.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

 

[sublimeone]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

so are you one of the highly competitive or do you privately hate the highly competitive? It's one or the other.

 

[sublimeone]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

you're a teacher?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Clearly someone in your town will be hammered to death this week.

GL

 

[top dog]

Now granted... I'm 40 and didn't grow up with the Beatles. I'm still trying to figure out what was the value of that song? It's artistic? I don't see they symbolism in that song. Just that it is dumb IMO.

 

[Banger]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

that seems to describe 30+%.....they fight and fight to get their kids put in certain teachers classes...payoff trainers to get their kids selected for sports travel teams.

 

[Banger]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

so are you one of the highly competitive or do you privately hate the highly competitive? It's one or the other.

I'm certainly competitive at life and sports and such but I'm not meddlesome like many of these people are. I think it's completely insane what these people do and my wife and I are certainly the exception as we don't write annual letters to the principal demanding our kids get certain teachers and much of the other non-sense that goes on.

 

[NCCommish]

I was raised on the Beatles. I heard that song probably from the time I was born. My father was a huge Beatles fan so their music was on all the time. But I was at home. It seems like a poor idea to play that for 3rd graders especially with the added graphics. They aren't your kids, not your choice. With that said I doubt anyone was truly traumatized or anything.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

you're a teacher?

No

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I was raised on the Beatles. I heard that song probably from the time I was born. My father was a huge Beatles fan so their music was on all the time. But I was at home. It seems like a poor idea to play that for 3rd graders especially with the added graphics. They aren't your kids, not your choice. With that said I doubt anyone was truly traumatized or anything.

As a teacher I agree.

 

[McGarnicle]

I like when the judge's eyeballs pop out.

Can't stop watching this thing.

 

[NCCommish]

Now granted... I'm 40 and didn't grow up with the Beatles. I'm still trying to figure out what was the value of that song? It's artistic? I don't see they symbolism in that song. Just that it is dumb IMO.

On 9 August 1967 Kenneth Halliwell killed his lover Joe Orton with nine hammer blows to the head, and then overdosed on sleeping pills.[9] Their bodies were discovered late the following morning, when a chauffeur arrived at the door of their Noel Road flat in Islington to collect Orton for a meeting with The Beatles regarding a screenplay he had written for them.

Or

In 1994, McCartney said that the song merely epitomizes the downfalls of life, being "my analogy for when something goes wrong out of the blue, as it so often does, as I was beginning to find out at that time in my life. I wanted something symbolic of that, so to me it was some fictitious character called Maxwell with a silver hammer. I don't know why it was silver, it just sounded better than Maxwell's hammer. It was needed for scanning. We still use that expression now when something unexpected happens.

 

[Banger]

I like when the judge's eyeballs pop out.

Can't stop watching this thing.

I thought that was funny as well..

 

[igbomb]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

In the last year, our school district has fired three different coaches due to upset parents. The latest was driven by the parents of a girl who was mad that she didn't make varsity soccer as a freshman.

 

[NCCommish]

IT's just funny phrasing. I picture a town full of athletes constantly trying to outdo each other.

ya, the highly competitive phrase probably wasn't the best...just meant that the parents are type A and very, very involved....often making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might be looking for the phrase "helicopter parents."

ya...never heard the phrase before but fits better...although the competitive town comments seems to be creating a thread of its own...

And there are different kinds of "helicopter parents". Typically I would only use the term to describe a parent that is WAY TOO involved in their kids. Obviously we want parental involvement but "helicopter parents" don't just take it too far they are actually doing their kid a disservice by hovering so much.

One the other hand there are those that are even worse. They aren't just too involved they actually go on the offensive against the school/teacher/coach etc. Nothing is their kid's fault and they attack anybody that dares to address their kid. These people are a special kind of helicopter parent. I call them "Apaches".

In the last year, our school district has fired three different coaches due to upset parents. The latest was driven by the parents of a girl who was mad that she didn't make varsity soccer as a freshman.

School district needs some balls

 

[Disco Stu]

I can't figure out why she would even want to show that video. Did it go along with anything in the curriculum?

They were studying uses of hammers throughout history.

New Common Core Curriculum

DOK Level 1: What was the song/story about?

DOK Level 2: Write down as many context clues you can find that let us know Maxwell is "the bad guy".

DOK Level 3: Pretend you are a prosecuting attorney given the task of trying Maxwell for murder. Write a 2 paragraph opening argument for your court case.

DOK Level 4: Compare and contrast Maxwell's crimes with those of another famous serial/spree killer such as Ted Bundy, Richard Speck, Ed Gein, etc.

Remember to be as competitive as possible! Your town demands it.

Dumb decision by the teacher, but I think the kids will get over it. Parents might not.