US journalist James Foley beheaded by ISIS (1 Viewer)

[Widbil83]

I read today that ISIS has between 400 million and 2 billion in cash from banks they've overtaken. If true they are much more dangerous than Al Qaeda.

Now way. These guys are just the JV team according to Obama,

 

[Sinn Fein]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

If you want to eliminate religious extremism, I would say your best bet would be to lob a few ICBMs at Moscow and Beijing, then hit Mecca, Medina, Vatican City and Jerusalem

Whatever is left off the aftermath will have far more to worry about than religious extremism.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I know that we're the United States and we're a devoloped nation, and we should lead by example, and blah blah blah...And I have always supported upholding that image.

That being said, how do we not bumrush these ####s, tear their limbs off, amd beat them to death with them? Spare me the political and financial logistics, because I'm just spouting off here.

I saw this morning that these ISIS militants sent emails to Foley's parents beforehand, essentially telling them that they would be killing their son and why. They're sick, demented individuals, and I'm beginning to think that the moral high ground can go to hell, and we should deal with these people in a sick and demented way.

you want to do all that because they killed one person?

I think they killed more than one person.

 

[pantherclub]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

who and where are we going to be fighting if this were to happen?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I wish they made a vaccine for Islam.

 

[gianmarco]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

All of them?

 

[Fennis]

I know that we're the United States and we're a devoloped nation, and we should lead by example, and blah blah blah...And I have always supported upholding that image.

That being said, how do we not bumrush these ####s, tear their limbs off, amd beat them to death with them? Spare me the political and financial logistics, because I'm just spouting off here.

I saw this morning that these ISIS militants sent emails to Foley's parents beforehand, essentially telling them that they would be killing their son and why. They're sick, demented individuals, and I'm beginning to think that the moral high ground can go to hell, and we should deal with these people in a sick and demented way.

you want to do all that because they killed one person?

I think they killed more than one person.

the new level of outrage is mostly over killing the American hostage

 

[cstu]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

You guys are idiots. Genocide is what you are talking here.

We are not at war with Islam, we are at war with people using Islam to gain money and power.

 

[ffldrew]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

If you want to eliminate religious extremism, I would say your best bet would be to lob a few ICBMs at Moscow and Beijing, then hit Mecca, Medina, Vatican City and Jerusalem

Whatever is left off the aftermath will have far more to worry about than religious extremism.

Sinn Fein= **** Cheney? need to update the notebook - Thanks!

 

[johnnycakes]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

If you want to eliminate religious extremism, I would say your best bet would be to lob a few ICBMs at Moscow and Beijing, then hit Mecca, Medina, Vatican City and Jerusalem

Whatever is left off the aftermath will have far more to worry about than religious extremism.

Sinn Fein= **** Cheney? need to update the notebook - Thanks!

My link,.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If I was **** Cheney, I would just turn on my weather machine and whip up a good old fashioned sand storm in the region.

 

[Gawain]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

If you want to eliminate religious extremism, I would say your best bet would be to lob a few ICBMs at Moscow and Beijing, then hit Mecca, Medina, Vatican City and Jerusalem

Whatever is left off the aftermath will have far more to worry about than religious extremism.

A cordon sanitaire based on a trapezoid with points of Istanbul, Djibouti, Karachi and Tehran. Everything inside stays in.

 

[lod01]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

You guys are idiots. Genocide is what you are talking here.

We are not at war with Islam, we are at war with people using Islam to gain money and power.

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

 

[cstu]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims. Like I said after 9-11, the way to fight these people is to use air power and special forces on the ground to kill them. As we've seen in both Afghanistan and Iraq, sending in mass troops is counter to what we are trying to accomplish.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Interesting video on ISIS black market oil revenue

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/08/21/pkg-defterios-isis-black-market-oil.cnn.html

 

[Greggity]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims.

The run of the mill muslim will go along with these guys as they continue to grow in numbers and power. Thats a nice little rumor that people like to tell themselves, before you know it they are on your doorstep with a sword....

 

[lod01]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims. Like I said after 9-11, the way to fight these people is to use air power and special forces on the ground to kill them. As we've seen in both Afghanistan and Iraq, sending in mass troops is counter to what we are trying to accomplish.

It appears we are going to have to partner with Assad and flush them out of Syria. Apparently Assad is planning on that scenario.

 

[lod01]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims.

The run of the mill muslim will go along with these guys as they continue to grow in numbers and power. Thats a nice little rumor that people like to tell themselves, before you know it they are on your doorstep with a sword....

Are these ISIS ######s Sunni or Shiiite?

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims.

The run of the mill muslim will go along with these guys as they continue to grow in numbers and power. Thats a nice little rumor that people like to tell themselves, before you know it they are on your doorstep with a sword....

Are these ISIS ######s Sunni or Shiiite?

I'll take "Words That Sound Like Shiite" for six hundred, Alex.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

You guys are idiots. Genocide is what you are talking here.

We are not at war with Islam, we are at war with people using Islam to gain money and power.

Yeah, you know, like how our politicians use religion to gain power and money. Our politicians prefer the white collar method and use our troops for violence while ISIS prefers to be more blue collar and get their hands dirty.

 

[jamny]

Well, someone's gotta go. I'm not converting and if you don't convert, these current locusts want you dead. Therefor they must die.

Obviously people who are threatening America need to be hunted down and killed, but these people are an extremely tiny portion of Muslims.

The run of the mill muslim will go along with these guys as they continue to grow in numbers and power. Thats a nice little rumor that people like to tell themselves, before you know it they are on your doorstep with a sword....

Are these ISIS ######s Sunni or Shiiite?

I'll take "Words That Sound Like Shiite" for six hundred, Alex.

ISIS is Sunni

 

[dickey moe]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

 

[Greggity]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

 

[TPW]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

This is exactly what I'm talking about, the refusal to recognize and name exactly which brand of religious extremism represents an existential threat.

But by all means, feel free to give us the standard nescient atheist/progressive lecture on how they're all the same or the Crusades.

 

[Quez]

It pisses me off every time i see the picture of the ISIS in their new 2014 white Toyota Tundras. There is probably a 90% chance our tax dollars bought those.

 

[cstu]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

I dunno, the Kardashians have several popular TV shows.

 

[Greggity]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

I dunno, the Kardashians have several popular TV shows.

Well, when they start chopping peoples heads off that dont watch their shows let me know.....

 

[tri-man 47]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

His demeanor looked quite different from when he was reading 'his' statement to the next cut where the #### made his speech with knife in hand. (As I recall: I saw the clip, but couldn't/wouldn't watch again.)

Chicago Trib's had a very biting political cartoon this a.m. with the President handing a golf club to a couple hooded extremists and saying they were now "denounced."

 

[Clifford]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

So basically spend tons more blood and treasure to set up exactly what was there in 2002?

 

[Joe Summer]

Why is it called "beheaded" and not "deheaded"?

 

[Jobber]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

Oh, I know. I'm trying to wipe a video I saw up on a site the other day out of my memory. oof

 

[Greggity]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

Oh, I know. I'm trying to wipe a video I saw up on a site the other day out of my memory. oof

I have no interest in watching that stuff....

 

[Fennis]

Why is it called "beheaded" and not "deheaded"?

And how do you pre-heat an oven? An oven is either heated or unheated.

 

[Fennis]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

This is exactly what I'm talking about, the refusal to recognize and name exactly which brand of religious extremism represents an existential threat.

But by all means, feel free to give us the standard nescient atheist/progressive lecture on how they're all the same or the Crusades.

He didn't give you a lecture or say it was the same as the Crusades. He asked you what city you are going to bomb. All you are have done is spout a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

 

[lod01]

Maybe they told him it was just an act and that if he read it, he wouldn't be killed?

There were reports that he has been subjected to numerous mock executions. He probably had to go through similar experiences many times and this turned out to be the last one.Can't imagine how horrible the experience must have been.

Their evil is off the charts. I dont believe that average american can comprehend it really in terms of what we are up against.....

Oh, I know. I'm trying to wipe a video I saw up on a site the other day out of my memory. oof

Age will take care of that for you down the road. I've watch stuff like that. Pretty much forget all about it within a few hours. Good pron will do that too.

 

[TPW]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

This is exactly what I'm talking about, the refusal to recognize and name exactly which brand of religious extremism represents an existential threat.

But by all means, feel free to give us the standard nescient atheist/progressive lecture on how they're all the same or the Crusades.

He didn't give you a lecture or say it was the same as the Crusades. He asked you what city you are going to bomb. All you are have done is spout a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

There's nothing meaningless about total war which entails a hell of a lot more than bombing a single city. So that there's no misunderstanding, that means subjugating an entire group of people in the same manner we did with the populations of Germany and Japan. If New York, Chicago, of Los Angeles go up in a cloud of radioactive fire with millions of people killed via an act committed by Islamic radicals, the American public is not going satisfied with a ### for tat response. Nor should it be. The entire Muslim Middle East will have to be brought under heel.

THAT'S the level of warfare I'm talking about.

 

[SacramentoBob]

It pisses me off every time i see the picture of the ISIS in their new 2014 white Toyota Tundras. There is probably a 90% chance our tax dollars bought those.

And they didn't even buy American.

 

[Greggity]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

What is your guess as to the number of boots needed and how much will that cost?

Well we already did it once so we should have that handy.

It will never end... We go in there for another 7-10 years, eliminate ISIS and another group of ####os come in. It is a never ending cycle with no solution.

There is a solution but it's one for which most Americans these days are not prepared to commit. It's called total victory and unconditional surrender.

As with Pearl Harbor in World War II, it will probably take a surprise attack in the form a nuclear device leveling a major city or two in the United States to bring people to that level of outrage. We're much too fat, dumb, and happy in our political correctness to fight what is essentially a multi-generational clash of civilizations without a devastating wake up call.

What city are you going to bomb to eliminate religious extremism?

This is exactly what I'm talking about, the refusal to recognize and name exactly which brand of religious extremism represents an existential threat.

But by all means, feel free to give us the standard nescient atheist/progressive lecture on how they're all the same or the Crusades.

He didn't give you a lecture or say it was the same as the Crusades. He asked you what city you are going to bomb. All you are have done is spout a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

There's nothing meaningless about total war which entails a hell of a lot more than bombing a single city. So that there's no misunderstanding, that means subjugating an entire group of people in the same manner we did with the populations of Germany and Japan. If New York, Chicago, of Los Angeles go up in a cloud of radioactive fire with millions of people killed via an act committed by Islamic radicals, the American public is not going satisfied with a ### for tat response. Nor should it be. The entire Muslim Middle East will have to be brought under heel.

THAT'S the level of warfare I'm talking about.

Im all in with that.....

 

[Henry Ford]

In the video, before he was beheaded, he read from a script about how evil America is and stuff.

That seems kind of weird. He knows he's about to die. Why should his last words be that nonsense? What did they offer him or threaten him with to get him to do that?

There's a very good chance that by the time he was killed, he was begging to die. There's also a good chance that they threatened his family. I'm sure they alleged to him that they had people in the United States capable of finding them.

 

[Sinn Fein]

In the video, before he was beheaded, he read from a script about how evil America is and stuff.

That seems kind of weird. He knows he's about to die. Why should his last words be that nonsense? What did they offer him or threaten him with to get him to do that?

There's a very good chance that by the time he was killed, he was begging to die. There's also a good chance that they threatened his family. I'm sure they alleged to him that they had people in the United States capable of finding them.

Way too hard to know, but I would not be surprised if he has had to make these videos several times before - none resulting in his death, but perhaps a beating for non-compliance - sort of conditioning him to a form of torture so that when the end came he really did not know it was coming until it was too late.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

In the video, before he was beheaded, he read from a script about how evil America is and stuff.

That seems kind of weird. He knows he's about to die. Why should his last words be that nonsense? What did they offer him or threaten him with to get him to do that?

There's a very good chance that by the time he was killed, he was begging to die. There's also a good chance that they threatened his family. I'm sure they alleged to him that they had people in the United States capable of finding them.

They did have his parents' e-mail address. It's not too far-fetched to believe that they had other information. Sadly, all we can do is speculate at this point.

 

[Mister Martie]

@ subjugate the entire Middle East.

 

[johnnycakes]

Steven Sotloff is good as dead no matter what we do... it's just a matter of time.

At this point I'm in favor of making Iraq a U.S. territory... bomb the hell out of them, WWII style, go in with boots on the ground, establish martial law, install the puppet government, and rule with an iron fist like the Shah. Let's see how they like that approach.

So basically spend tons more blood and treasure to set up exactly what was there in 2002?

The U.S. had permanent bases there in 2002?

 

[FlapJacks]

In the video, before he was beheaded, he read from a script about how evil America is and stuff.

That seems kind of weird. He knows he's about to die. Why should his last words be that nonsense? What did they offer him or threaten him with to get him to do that?

They probably told him that if he said that stuff, he might live

People obey captors all the time in hopes that they will be spared

 

[johnnycakes]

In the video, before he was beheaded, he read from a script about how evil America is and stuff.

That seems kind of weird. He knows he's about to die. Why should his last words be that nonsense? What did they offer him or threaten him with to get him to do that?

They probably told him that if he said that stuff, he might live

People obey captors all the time in hopes that they will be spared

My guess is they may have threatened him with an even more hideous death to be filmed in gory color for his family.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

It pisses me off every time i see the picture of the ISIS in their new 2014 white Toyota Tundras. There is probably a 90% chance our tax dollars bought those.

The Toyota trucks are funded by France, who has been paying ransom to get their hostages back.

ISIS loves the Toyota Hilux.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-71PUSOiDvbc/U-R_eXqsujI/AAAAAAAAJew/gO1r7KG5RsQ/s1600/ISIS_CIA_Convoy.jpg

 

[Fennis]

Its nothing new.

Why Rebel Groups Love the Toyota Hilux

As the war in Afghanistan escalated several years ago, counterinsurgency expert David Kilcullen, a member of the team that designed the Iraq surge for Gen. David Petraeus, began to notice a new tattoo on some insurgent Afghan fighters. It wasn’t a Taliban tattoo. It wasn’t even Afghan. It was a Canadian maple leaf.

When a perplexed Kilcullen began to investigate, he says, he discovered that the incongruous flags were linked to what he says is one of the most important, and unnoticed, weapons of guerrilla war in Afghanistan and across the world: the lightweight, virtually indestructible Toyota Hilux truck.

“In Afghanistan in particular,” he says, “[the trucks are] incredibly well respected.” So well respected, in fact, that some enterprising fraudsters thought them worthy of ripping off. The imitations, Kilcullen says, had flooded the market, leaving disappointed fighters in their wake. But then “a shipment of high-quality [real] Hiluxes arrived, courtesy of the Canadian government,” he explains. “They had little Canadian flags on the back. Because they were the real deal, and because of how the Hilux is seen, over time, strangely, the Canadian flag has become a symbol of high quality across the country. Hence the tattoos.”

It’s not just rebels in Afghanistan that love the Hilux. “The Toyota Hilux is everywhere,” says Andrew Exum, a former Army Ranger and now a fellow of the Center for a New American Security. “It’s the vehicular equivalent of the AK-47. It’s ubiquitous to insurgent warfare. And actually, recently, also counterinsurgent warfare. It kicks the hell out of the Humvee.” Anecdotally, a scan of pictures from the last four decades of guerrilla and insurgent warfare around the world—the first iteration of the Hilux appeared in the late ’60s—reveals the Toyota’s wide-ranging influence. Somali pirates bristling with guns hang out of them on the streets of Mogadishu. The New York Times has reported that the Hilux is the pirates’ “ride of choice.” A ragtag bunch of 20 or so Sudanese fighters raise their arms aloft in the back of a Hilux in 2004. Pakistani militants drive through a crowd, guns high, in 2000. It goes on. Nicaragua, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq—U.S. Special Forces even drive Toyota Tacomas (the chunkier, U.S. version of the Hilux) on some of their deployments. (Click here for a gallery of Toyota trucks in conflict-torn regions.)

While Taliban leader Mullah Omar reportedly likes to roll in a Chevy Suburban and Osama Bin Laden is said to have preferred the Hilux’s bigger brother, the Landcruiser, when he was able to move freely, most Al Qaeda lieutenants drive Hiluxes, according to a New York Times report from the early 2000s. Even today, says Kilcullen, “It’s a bit of a sign you’re dealing with Al Qaeda when you come across them in Pakistan. They use the twin-cab version, because you can carry people and stuff in the back, and also mount a heavy weapon in the pickup.”

The truck even has a war named after it: the so-called “Toyota War” between Libya and Chad in the 1980s was dominated by fighters using the light, mobile Hilux. Indeed, Africa, says Kilcullen, is where the truck got its nickname as a fighting vehicle, “the technical.” “When [nongovernmental organizations] and the U.N. first went into Somalia,” he says, referring to a period in the 1990s, “they were not able to bring their own guards. So they got so-called ‘technical assistance grants’ to hire guards and drivers on the ground. Over time, a ‘technical’ came to mean a vehicle owned by a guard company, and then eventually to mean a Hilux with a heavy weapon mounted on the back.”

The Toyota is such a widespread and powerful weapon for insurgents, says Dr. Alastair Finlan, who specializes in strategic studies at Britain’s Aberystwyth University, because it acts as a “force multiplier.” It is “fast, maneuverable, and packs a big punch [when it’s mounted with] a 50-caliber [machine gun] that easily defeats body armor on soldiers and penetrates lightly armored vehicles as well.” It is particularly dangerous, he adds, against lightly armed special-forces operatives.

An experiment conducted by British TV show Top Gear in 2006 offers one explanation. The show’s producers bought an 18-year-old Hilux diesel with 190,000 miles on the odometer for $1,500. They then crashed it into a tree, submerged it in the ocean for five hours, dropped it from about 10 feet, tried to crush it under an RV, drove it through a portable building, hit it with a wrecking ball, and set it on fire. Finally they placed it on top of a 240-foot tower block that was then destroyed in a controlled demolition. When they dug it out of the rubble, all it took to get it running again was hammers, wrenches, and WD-40. They didn’t even need spare parts.

The Hilux was originally designed, says Kevin Hunter, president of Toyota’s design division in California, as “a lightweight truck with big tires on big wheels. It was meant as a recreational truck, a truck people could have fun with. They also have a really high ground clearance, which means they’re ideal for off-road work.”

They have always been built, says Hunter, as “body-on-frame” trucks: “There’s a rigid steel frame construction, and the body is fitted on top of that. That’s much stronger that most modern cars, where the body and frame are one. I would describe them as bulletproof. We get people who run them for years. There are 200,000 or 300,000 miles on them and they’re still going.” But Hunter admits he doesn’t know why Hiluxes are so popular with guerrilla forces; many other manufacturers’ trucks, he says, are also body-on-frame.

Kilcullen, who has faced forces using the Hilux in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, says the vehicle’s longevity is a factor, as is the high ground clearance. “They cover the ground incredibly well,” he says. They are often used by insurgent forces as “a modern version of light cavalry. They move weapons into positions to fire, and can also shift people around very quickly, with a quick dismount. The Hilux is perfectly designed for that. I’ve seen 20 people and a mounted weapon on one.”

A former British special forces soldier, who asked not to be identified because he still consults on active operations, says he too has faced the Hilux, which he refers to as “the technical,” in both Iraq and Afghanistan. “I’d say the appeal is pretty simple,” he says. “You can’t underestimate the value of having a vehicle that is fast, will never break down, and is strong enough to mount a heavy weapon in the back.”

Exum, who has seen the Hilux in action across the Middle East, says the Toyota’s status is self-perpetuating. “Because everyone uses them, there are parts easily available, and mechanics everywhere know how to fix them. That kind of feeds on itself,” he says.

The New York Times piece on Mullah Omar’s car also noted that during Taliban rule in Afghanistan, the Hilux and its larger sibling the Landcruiser “provided ideal platforms for intimidation and enforcement.” The Taliban rode around “ready to leap down and beat women for showing a glimpse of ankle or to lock a man in a shipping container for three weeks until his beard grew to the approved length. Or, most dismal, to drag an accused adulterer or blasphemer to the soccer stadium for execution.”

Some of the Canadian-flagged Hiluxes, says Kilcullen, have almost certainly ended up in Taliban hands this time around. Here’s hoping that history doesn’t drive back around in a Toyota.

 

[Quez]

It isn't uncommon for captors to psychologically torture the captors by doing everything leading up to an execution, then not doing it. They may have enacted this scene several times and not cut his head off.

 

[Fennis]

At what point would you change the name of your company?

http://isispharm.com/index.htm

 

[jamny]

At what point would you change the name of your company?

http://isispharm.com/index.htm

We have an ISIS nail salon near our house.